⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[tusandii]

The match has finished and Luton Town didn't get a single point in this match, even though this match was their home match, but they were not able to provide good results for their fans to watch at Kenilworth Road. Not 1 - 2 or 1 - 3, Luton Town lost with a landslide score of Luton Town 1 - 5 Brentford. The bee squad succeeded in embarrassing Luton in front of their own fans. It looks like we won't see Luton Town again next season considering there are only a few PL games left.

From Luton's performance today, I think that the most obvious mistakes were in the formation and weak defense which gave Brentford players a lot of opportunities.
Another mistake was Luton's coach, Rob Edwards, who failed to provide a strategy which for me was very ridiculous when I saw Luton's appearance as if they wanted to continue chasing to score but didn't see the defense line which was having difficulty holding back attacks.
Rob Edwards should have used a formation focused on defense to at least get 1 point.
I actually don't want to blame anyone, but in reality this is really the fault of the coach who should have thought it wiser to prioritize a draw rather than losing points when there are only 4 games remaining.

[Docnaster]

Obviously this week Arsenal/Liverpool will get ahead of City, but that doesn't mean that they are going to lead, we will have City missing one game compared to other teams, and that could go on for a long time.

If Liverpool can win their next match, then they will be ahead of Manchester city, Manchester city will be dropping to third position, but it’s just temporary, Manchester City won’t be playing this weekend due to the FA cup match which they played today, so they will be having one outstanding match to play, so if they can win the match, then Manchester City will be bouncing back to first position, so if Liverpool and Arsenal are taking over first position from Manchester city, that doesn’t mean anything.

Yes, Manchester city’s match will become an outstanding match because of the FA Cup they played today against Chelsea. Now Arsenal after winning their match against Wolves is now on top of the Premier League table, while Liverpool will be playing against Fulham tomorrow away from home, if Liverpool win their match tomorrow, they will be behind Arsenal with goal diff and above Manchester City before Man City will play their matches to get back to their position if they win the matches.

Despite the surprising results of last weekend in the English Premier League that saw Manchester City climb to the top of the league standings, the battle for who wins the English Premier League title is still far from over. Arsenal who were beaten by Aston Villa in the league last weekend before suffering a 1:0 loss away at Bayern Munich in the midweek which resulted to their elimination from the UEFA Champions League competition were able to deliver a good performance today at Wolves to return back to the summit of the league table.
Liverpool travel to Fulham tomorrow for their own league game of the weekend and from all indications, I think Jurgen Klopp's men are very likely to win the game and go past Pep Guardiola's Manchester City who wouldn't be playing a league game this weekend. If Liverpool win, they'll have the same number of points with Arsenal but will stay in the second position because of their inferior goal difference behind the Gunners

[nelson4lov]

If Liverpool can win their next match, then they will be ahead of Manchester city, Manchester city will be dropping to third position, but it’s just temporary, Manchester City won’t be playing this weekend due to the FA cup match which they played today, so they will be having one outstanding match to play, so if they can win the match, then Manchester City will be bouncing back to first position, so if Liverpool and Arsenal are taking over first position from Manchester city, that doesn’t mean anything.

Liverpool and Arsenal hope of winning the EPL this season is entirely dependent on City dropping points in any of their last 6 premier league games and I don't see that happening because City are back in their winning streak period that happens towards the end of the season. I expect City to win their remaining matches of the season. From their remaining fixtures, the only hurdle is going to be Tottenham and there's no telling that Tottenham might be a hurdle to both Arsenal and Liverpool as well.

[Sarah Azhari]

From Luton's performance today, I think that the most obvious mistakes were in the formation and weak defense which gave Brentford players a lot of opportunities.
Another mistake was Luton's coach, Rob Edwards, who failed to provide a strategy which for me was very ridiculous when I saw Luton's appearance as if they wanted to continue chasing to score but didn't see the defense line which was having difficulty holding back attacks.
Rob Edwards should have used a formation focused on defense to at least get 1 point.
I actually don't want to blame anyone, but in reality this is really the fault of the coach who should have thought it wiser to prioritize a draw rather than losing points when there are only 4 games remaining.

Besides that Luton coach's fault, I think another reason why Luton lost at their home because Brentford's performance was perfect, their player had been very dominant since the 1st half, even Ivan Toney absent but Brian Mbeumo is appeared very brilliant and be the key to big wins Brentford today. So I think their enthusiasm to far away from degradation zone is success today, they create 10 points different from degradation zone, Luton and and I think it's quite safe even there are still 4 matches left, but when their performance the same as today, I think they don't have problem to beat everton, fulham, Bournemouth and newcastle.

[LUCKMCFLY]

If Liverpool can win their next match, then they will be ahead of Manchester city, Manchester city will be dropping to third position, but it’s just temporary, Manchester City won’t be playing this weekend due to the FA cup match which they played today, so they will be having one outstanding match to play, so if they can win the match, then Manchester City will be bouncing back to first position, so if Liverpool and Arsenal are taking over first position from Manchester city, that doesn’t mean anything.

Liverpool and Arsenal hope of winning the EPL this season is entirely dependent on City dropping points in any of their last 6 premier league games and I don't see that happening because City are back in their winning streak period that happens towards the end of the season. I expect City to win their remaining matches of the season. From their remaining fixtures, the only hurdle is going to be Tottenham and there's no telling that Tottenham might be a hurdle to both Arsenal and Liverpool as well.

Understand what he says, but remember that City lost to Madrid, and good today because they beat Chelsea in the FA Cup and this can be something significant for them, but the PL is very much in touch, that is, now City can't falter and No matter how strong the players are, they may feel a little tired. I think the game that bothered them the most was the UCL, where they Basically played the 90+ offs, then the extra time and then the suffering of the penalties, more than anything, all that is tiring and can produce many more things so that they feel a bit tired , then in the face of these things you can say that yes, they can lose, and in fact it is probable, the wear and tear Playing Soccer is strong and the rest time between games and games I consider that the body does not Recover enough.

Pep Guardiola set to make history - despite Man City planning for life without him

Manchester City may be planning for life without Pep Guardiola – but for now he still has unfinished business.

City’s double Treble dream was ended by Real Madrid in a penalty shoot-out on Wednesday – and less than 48 hours later reports in Spain claimed Guardiola will leave the Etihad when his contract expires in the summer of 2025. But history still beckons for both the Catalan and the team he has built to become the most dominant force in English football.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pep-guardiola-man-city-facup-32634859

[X-ray]

The match has finished and Luton Town didn't get a single point in this match, even though this match was their home match, but they were not able to provide good results for their fans to watch at Kenilworth Road. Not 1 - 2 or 1 - 3, Luton Town lost with a landslide score of Luton Town 1 - 5 Brentford. The bee squad succeeded in embarrassing Luton in front of their own fans. It looks like we won't see Luton Town again next season considering there are only a few PL games left.

From Luton's performance today, I think that the most obvious mistakes were in the formation and weak defense which gave Brentford players a lot of opportunities.
Another mistake was Luton's coach, Rob Edwards, who failed to provide a strategy which for me was very ridiculous when I saw Luton's appearance as if they wanted to continue chasing to score but didn't see the defense line which was having difficulty holding back attacks.

There must be something sacrificed in order to receive a good return and this is how life works today and luton's coach was obviously gambling with it. Luton has previously played defensively started from the early to the mid season but is now switching to an entirely offensive strategy considering they must get points in order to survive on EPL for the next season. Things have changed a lot since Luton was always showing good gameplay, but they are extremely weak on defense which is normal caused by the club was focusing on how to score instead of how to defense but this is giving very big disadvantage for the clbu when it was facing the big club.
Things are also moving quickly for Luton because they now have a very slim chance of getting into the safe zone. If you were Luton's coach, you would be confused about your club since you can use various strategy but the qualify of players didn't even support it. The main issue here is due to your team's performance scuased by they have very bad quality and your plan may not be going so well. I'm thinking that if you can't do much when you only have low-quality players, like those owned by Luton.

Rob Edwards should have used a formation focused on defense to at least get 1 point.
I actually don't want to blame anyone, but in reality this is really the fault of the coach who should have thought it wiser to prioritize a draw rather than losing points when there are only 4 games remaining.

True but it's hard to imagine it. Luton has done it before and they keep failed. This is why rob edwards were changing the strategy used by the club to be fully offensive with the hope they can easily get three points but it's all wrong since luton didn't have quality players on its squad.
Why always coach? why don't you blame the fuckin players as well? the players are the key to determine the result got by the club. It's like what you have said before.
Coach was always be blamed but to be fair if players shall be blamed as well. think about that.

[reagansimms]

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Liverpool and Arsenal hope of winning the EPL this season is entirely dependent on City dropping points in any of their last 6 premier league games and I don't see that happening because City are back in their winning streak period that happens towards the end of the season. I expect City to win their remaining matches of the season. From their remaining fixtures, the only hurdle is going to be Tottenham and there's no telling that Tottenham might be a hurdle to both Arsenal and Liverpool as well.

Of the six matches that Manchester City have not played, only Tottenham has the potential to hinder Manchester City victory in these six matches. After being eliminated from the Champions League, Manchester City will focus more on the EPL because they still have the opportunity to win the trophy. Guardiola will certainly direct the players to always perform optimally and make every match a final to increase the players' motivation to win the match. The chances of Arsenal and Liverpool winning the EPL trophy depend on the results achieved by Manchester City, both clubs also need to win in all the remaining matches in order to maintain their chances of winning the title.

[makishart]

Another painful defeat for luton caused by the club is now losing three points again. The chance to leave from being relegated is just getting even smaller for luton this time. It's a common result for brentford caused by this club is far better in all of the aspects against luton. That's the reason why luton being defeated easily by brentford at this time.
Luton's match is just getting less and i see how luton is probably relegating to the lower division again. It's failed to defend its position even though there are several matches awaiting luton. It's saddened me to see luton may be relegated back again along with SHU and Burnley.

[TastyChillySauce00]

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Liverpool and Arsenal hope of winning the EPL this season is entirely dependent on City dropping points in any of their last 6 premier league games and I don't see that happening because City are back in their winning streak period that happens towards the end of the season. I expect City to win their remaining matches of the season. From their remaining fixtures, the only hurdle is going to be Tottenham and there's no telling that Tottenham might be a hurdle to both Arsenal and Liverpool as well.

Of the six matches that Manchester City have not played, only Tottenham has the potential to hinder Manchester City victory in these six matches. After being eliminated from the Champions League, Manchester City will focus more on the EPL because they still have the opportunity to win the trophy. Guardiola will certainly direct the players to always perform optimally and make every match a final to increase the players' motivation to win the match. The chances of Arsenal and Liverpool winning the EPL trophy depend on the results achieved by Manchester City, both clubs also need to win in all the remaining matches in order to maintain their chances of winning the title.

It makes sense to bet on city now to win PL trophy. Even though the outright odds for city was not as good as when it was on the third place but im feeling city is winning the competition. The bad thing is now guardiola will leave from the club at the end of season which is also forcing the club to get a new coach to handle the club.
Totenham is the only strongl fixture on city's upcoming fixtures. Yet again totenham has so many weakness and im not seeing it as a big obstacles for manchester city right now. Club is still doing it very good till this time.

It needs only to be even more consistent than before. PL trophy will be on city's hand once again for 4 times in a row. It's amazing since pep is gonna create a new record in the premier league.
I can't wait shit to happen with arsenal and liverpool once again. Im hoping these clubs get same result as the previous games.

[entertheabyss]

Another painful defeat for luton caused by the club is now losing three points again. The chance to leave from being relegated is just getting even smaller for luton this time. It's a common result for brentford caused by this club is far better in all of the aspects against luton. That's the reason why luton being defeated easily by brentford at this time.
Luton's match is just getting less and i see how luton is probably relegating to the lower division again. It's failed to defend its position even though there are several matches awaiting luton. It's saddened me to see luton may be relegated back again along with SHU and Burnley.

Relegation zone is dangerous and many struggling teams and managers are doing their best to prevent such circumstances. Luton Town are going back to the Championship at the end of the 2023/2024 season. Luton Town have a terrible stats in the EPL this season, 6W 7D 21L which is absolutely no good news for the team and the supporters. Luton coach, Rob Edwards will scout for exploring moves if he's desperate to fixed his team's weakness in the last days.

[len01]

Another painful defeat for luton caused by the club is now losing three points again. The chance to leave from being relegated is just getting even smaller for luton this time. It's a common result for brentford caused by this club is far better in all of the aspects against luton. That's the reason why luton being defeated easily by brentford at this time.
Luton's match is just getting less and i see how luton is probably relegating to the lower division again. It's failed to defend its position even though there are several matches awaiting luton. It's saddened me to see luton may be relegated back again along with SHU and Burnley.

there are only 4 matches left for Luton to take advantage of this opportunity and I see that the team they will face is not a strong team from the EPL but it all depends on Luton whether they are able to achieve a win or a draw to face Wolves, West Ham, Everton and Fulham.
If between the remaining 4 matches, Luton is able to get at least 2 wins, there is still hope, but it still all depends on how the results of each match will be for Notthingham, who will face a more difficult team than Luton.
when Notthingham failed to get points against Man City or Chelsea and Luton managed to get 2 wins, it seemed like Luton hopes were still very high.

[AprilioMP]

Of the six matches that Manchester City have not played, only Tottenham has the potential to hinder Manchester City victory in these six matches. After being eliminated from the Champions League, Manchester City will focus more on the EPL because they still have the opportunity to win the trophy. Guardiola will certainly direct the players to always perform optimally and make every match a final to increase the players' motivation to win the match. The chances of Arsenal and Liverpool winning the EPL trophy depend on the results achieved by Manchester City, both clubs also need to win in all the remaining matches in order to maintain their chances of winning the title.

I doubt that Tottenham can be an obstacle to Manchester City because Tottenham themselves have to undergo a tough match before meeting Manchester City. Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool are tough matches for Tottenham to play.
It is possible that these big teams can be beaten if you assess Spurs' motivation to finish in the top four in order to get a ticket to the Champions League which they still have a chance to achieve.

Depending on other teams to achieve your own desires is not fun at all.
The focus on winning the Premier League title will be increasingly visible because Manchester City have just confirmed themselves in the FA Cup final after beating Chelsea.

[tusandii]

From Luton's performance today, I think that the most obvious mistakes were in the formation and weak defense which gave Brentford players a lot of opportunities.
Another mistake was Luton's coach, Rob Edwards, who failed to provide a strategy which for me was very ridiculous when I saw Luton's appearance as if they wanted to continue chasing to score but didn't see the defense line which was having difficulty holding back attacks.
Rob Edwards should have used a formation focused on defense to at least get 1 point.
I actually don't want to blame anyone, but in reality this is really the fault of the coach who should have thought it wiser to prioritize a draw rather than losing points when there are only 4 games remaining.

Besides that Luton coach's fault, I think another reason why Luton lost at their home because Brentford's performance was perfect, their player had been very dominant since the 1st half, even Ivan Toney absent but Brian Mbeumo is appeared very brilliant and be the key to big wins Brentford today. So I think their enthusiasm to far away from degradation zone is success today, they create 10 points different from degradation zone, Luton and and I think it's quite safe even there are still 4 matches left, but when their performance the same as today, I think they don't have problem to beat everton, fulham, Bournemouth and newcastle.

Yes, I admit that Brentford's performance in yesterday's match was extraordinary, even though he didn't completely control the ball, he was able to master the strategy well by taking advantage of Luton's weak defense. I saw that almost all of the opportunities that Brentford created were accurate and finished off Luton with a fairly large score, Brian Mbeumo helped create opportunities with 2 assists, this is what made Brentford successful in scoring an amazing score and humiliating Luton who were competing at home.

It does seem that Bretford are very eager to get away from the relegation zone. The difference in points with the relegation team is currently 10 points from Luton so I think with 4 games left they only need to win 1 game and that will make them really safe from the relegation zone, although I don't expect that either. Brentford lost 3 matches even though only 1 match was safe, at least he will continue to perform like this in the future.

[Strongkored]

Another painful defeat for luton caused by the club is now losing three points again. The chance to leave from being relegated is just getting even smaller for luton this time. It's a common result for brentford caused by this club is far better in all of the aspects against luton. That's the reason why luton being defeated easily by brentford at this time.
Luton's match is just getting less and i see how luton is probably relegating to the lower division again. It's failed to defend its position even though there are several matches awaiting luton. It's saddened me to see luton may be relegated back again along with SHU and Burnley.

This season, none of the three promoted teams performed well enough to survive at least one or two seasons in the English Premier League, all three performed disappointingly and had to go back down the division, even Burnley, who was predicted to perform better than the other two promoted teams, apparently did not perform as expected.
Several weak teams that were almost relegated last season, such as Everton and Nottingham Forest, were helped by the poor performance of Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United, so they have a chance to come back safe, but if we look at the difference in points, the team that will go down the division can change because of the difference the points are quite narrow, Everton and Nottingham Forest are not completely safe so this will be quite interesting to look forward to until the final match of this season, only Sheffield can be sure of going down a division.

[emrecemsan]

Pep Guardiola set to make history - despite Man City planning for life without him

Manchester City may be planning for life without Pep Guardiola – but for now he still has unfinished business.

City’s double Treble dream was ended by Real Madrid in a penalty shoot-out on Wednesday – and less than 48 hours later reports in Spain claimed Guardiola will leave the Etihad when his contract expires in the summer of 2025. But history still beckons for both the Catalan and the team he has built to become the most dominant force in English football.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pep-guardiola-man-city-facup-32634859

Right now, Manchester City = Guardiola and vice versa. It is quite an obvious fact. 

Guardiola has actually achieved great things with Manchester City for 8 years. The Champions League title was the only one left and he achieved it as well in the previous season finally. He is just trying to increase the number of titles of the tournaments he has already won at least for once. 

One day they will part ways for sure but it is hard to predict when. When it happens the name I would like to see filling his place is Arteta. I think that he would be the best option to maintain this vision. 

[Google+]

Another painful defeat for luton caused by the club is now losing three points again. The chance to leave from being relegated is just getting even smaller for luton this time. It's a common result for brentford caused by this club is far better in all of the aspects against luton. That's the reason why luton being defeated easily by brentford at this time.
Luton's match is just getting less and i see how luton is probably relegating to the lower division again. It's failed to defend its position even though there are several matches awaiting luton. It's saddened me to see luton may be relegated back again along with SHU and Burnley.

The painful defeat to Brentford made Luton's position now more vulnerable but still they still have hope if Nottingham Forest fails to comeback against Everton today, currently Luton and Nottingham who are above the relegation zone are only 1 goal apart and Luton still has a chance to improve his position in the remaining matches, especially next week Nottingham Forest will face Manchester City and it is difficult for Nottingham Forest to win So it has a chance for Luton to unseat Nottingham Forest, but it looks like it will be very difficult for Luton to win next week because  Luton will also have to face Wolves who are also relatively strong.

Looking at the position at the bottom of the Premier League standings at this time, not only Luton has the potential to be relegated, but if we look at the existing points difference, of course Nottingham Forest is also still not safe at this time, but as you said, of course Sheffield United will certainly play in the Championship next season because with 16 points, it will certainly be difficult for Sheffield United to catch up with Nottingham Forest's position in the safety zone at this time,  As for Burnley and Luton, of course, there is still hope for them to stay in the Premier League next season even if it is difficult.

[MAAManda]

The match has finished and Luton Town didn't get a single point in this match, even though this match was their home match, but they were not able to provide good results for their fans to watch at Kenilworth Road. Not 1 - 2 or 1 - 3, Luton Town lost with a landslide score of Luton Town 1 - 5 Brentford. The bee squad succeeded in embarrassing Luton in front of their own fans. It looks like we won't see Luton Town again next season considering there are only a few PL games left.

From Luton's performance today, I think that the most obvious mistakes were in the formation and weak defense which gave Brentford players a lot of opportunities.
Another mistake was Luton's coach, Rob Edwards, who failed to provide a strategy which for me was very ridiculous when I saw Luton's appearance as if they wanted to continue chasing to score but didn't see the defense line which was having difficulty holding back attacks.
Rob Edwards should have used a formation focused on defense to at least get 1 point.
I actually don't want to blame anyone, but in reality this is really the fault of the coach who should have thought it wiser to prioritize a draw rather than losing points when there are only 4 games remaining.

Rob Edwards thinks placing 4 midfielders can make them dominate the game and at least it can make time run out and get 3 or 1 point, but in reality they only have 53% possession of the ball, it's true that they dominate possession of the ball, but that's not a big difference. Yoane Wissa managed to score 2 goals from Rob Edwards strategy of placing 3 defenders and the 3 additional points they got will most likely save them from relegation.

[Palakka]

Liverpool and Arsenal hope of winning the EPL this season is entirely dependent on City dropping points in any of their last 6 premier league games and I don't see that happening because City are back in their winning streak period that happens towards the end of the season. I expect City to win their remaining matches of the season. From their remaining fixtures, the only hurdle is going to be Tottenham and there's no telling that Tottenham might be a hurdle to both Arsenal and Liverpool as well.

The chances of Arsenal and Liverpool to win the Premier League this season of course depend on the defeat of Manchester City, indeed in football everything can happen without us expecting but logically of course seeing Manchester City lose the rest of their matches this season is of course very difficult, from the rest of the matches there is only Tottenham that has the potential to trouble Manchester City but that does not mean Tottenham will be able to beat Manchester City in the match later,  Because I don't think Tottenham's performance is stable and we can see their performance in some games that are often up and down, I don't think Manchester City will lose to tottenham because for now Manchester City will be fully focused on the EPL trophy after they failed in the Champions League.

Maybe Manchester City will suffer 1 defeat in the rest of their matches, but I think it will also not guarantee Liverpool and Arsenal can win the league this season, because of the remaining matches between the three championship contenders, Arsenal and Liverpool actually have a tougher match, so the possibility of Arsenal and Liverpool losing is of course there so I think we will still see Manchester City ranked 1,  Liverpool and Arsenal are ranked 2nd and 3rd at the end of the season.

[TastyChillySauce00]

We are entering the second half and westham gets fucked by palace. It will be amazing if westham will able to equalize the score during remaining time of second half. I never expect palace to humiliate westham this bad. It's totally unpredictable result for sure.
Westham is still having chance to get one points as long as it will able to score another goal. Congrats for anyone who pick total over for this game. Their bet has been successful.

Im feeling this season is gonna his last season in westham. Totally unpredictable by me. AFAIK, palace was a not a strong club and it's even weaker than westham.

[QueenVera]

It makes sense to bet on city now to win PL trophy. Even though the outright odds for city was not as good as when it was on the third place but im feeling city is winning the competition. The bad thing is now guardiola will leave from the club at the end of season which is also forcing the club to get a new coach to handle the club.
Totenham is the only strongl fixture on city's upcoming fixtures. Yet again totenham has so many weakness and im not seeing it as a big obstacles for manchester city right now. Club is still doing it very good till this time.

It needs only to be even more consistent than before. PL trophy will be on city's hand once again for 4 times in a row. It's amazing since pep is gonna create a new record in the premier league.
I can't wait shit to happen with arsenal and liverpool once again. Im hoping these clubs get same result as the previous games.

Manchester City are now back to second place with a match in hand which is against Tottenham and you can expect them to be able to win that match because this seem to be the major competition they’re still participating in. A win against Tottenham means they have successfully been able to lay one hand on thr league trophy again for the 4th consecutive time.

 Arsenal and Liverpool have little chances and their only and major hope is for City to be able to get a  draw in at least one match but for that to be an added advantage they’ve got to make sure they themselves are able to gather all 3 points in their remaining 6 matche. Arsenal will be having the major challenge as they have about 4 top teams to face in their final and in about 48hours they’ll be having the first test, Chelsea.

 ⁠I don’t think Arsenal will be able to challenge Liverpool or City especially as these 2 teams have a better experience on battling at the top of the table as compared to Arsenal who are very good bottlers of the league when they’re expected to win. City at the top of the table doesn’t seem to get weak whenever they get to that position and you can imagine how much the team will be willing to go for that.

 Yes If it’s true Pep is leaving then the team will want to also want to win the league for them as this is going to be his last legacy for the club and to the players before his departure. I can now begin to imagine how this team will be able to play without pep next season and as such, the club should try to get a perfect replacement so fast else I think they’ll probably struggle next season.