⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Rengga Jati]

Bruno Fernandes' red card changed everything for Manchester United, and Tottenham's chances of securing a win increased from that point on. Tottenham dominate games when they have a man advantage, so it was natural for Manchester United to come under pressure throughout the second half.

Of course. After the red card got by Bruno Fernandes, Man United played with 10 players only. Man United also lost a player who becomes the mastermind of Man United attacking, Bruno Fernandes is surely irreplaceable. When Bruno Fernandes isn't on the lineup, Man United attack is unorganized. I can understand if Man United couldn't keep up with Tottenham's game. Meanwhile Tottenham becomes more confident and they fully dominated the match. So, it is reasonable if they could win with 3 goals.

Due to the defeat, Manchester United are still struggling in 12th position with 7 points from 6 matches. Manchester United also has the potential to drop to 13th position if Bournemouth wins against Southampton in the next match, so Manchester United certainly need to regret their defeat today. While Chelsea have improved recently with three consecutive wins, this is certainly good after a long time.

True. Man United is among the mediocre team now. Seeing Man United is in 12th place, I remembered that Chelsea was in the position in season 2022-2023. At that time, Man United was in the top 3 (UCL zone). But now, Chelsea is in the UCL zone (top 4), meanwhile Man United is in 12th place.  

Man United seems to drop to 13th place. Bournemouth probably beats Southampton easily, Southampton performed very poor in this season. I don't see a chance that Southampton gets point in this match. So, we can assume Man United to drop again to a worse position on the table.

[shinratensei_]

The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.

Well, luck was ran out for Aston Villa in this game. They dropped two points. They just were very poor in their gameplay. Their top and bottom were so sloppy in this game. They were very open at the back. This made them vulnerable to counterattacks. They were very imbalanced by not having a natural RB. Their players often give the ball away to their opponents.

Also, it's hard to figure out who was the best player in that game. Anyone who plays below their average may pay for it in the next games if they keep it up.

[blue Snow]

The match has ended and Manchester United were a disagree again allowing Tottenham Hotspur to score you 3 goals at home without having any response. Manchester United
are a finished club and I don't think there's going to be any comeback from this with the current manager still being incharge. Things need to change from the manager resigning or getting fired and someone with a vision gets hired. There are many coaches out of job that can do better than what Erik ten Hag is doing. Manchester United didn't look like themselves today and they were second best in everything. The red card isn't an excuse to play this poorly as they weren't just worth watching.

I just hear the song "you're getting sack in the morning" along with the match, which mean Ten Hag's position is currently vulnerable today. The official must think to replace the right coach for MU today if they want fans still come to old traford. From beginning this session Ten Hag can't mix the right strategy for MU even have some best player in his position. They have fragile defender and Many holes on center field, so when I look in forward, they have rashford and Zirkzee, but both are blunt, they can't improvise when get the ball. So why wait so long for looking a new coach?

[tusandii]

Yesterday we saw some good matches in the English league. Manchester City drew 1-1 away to Newcastle. City continued to lose points in matches without Rodri and got their 2nd draw in the league. After leading the first half with Gvardiol's goal, City drew 1-1 with a goal from a penalty in the second half. City were the more active side in the match but struggled to find goals. Liverpool managed to take the lead with the win this week. Liverpool, who reached 15 points after a 2-1 win away to Wolverhampton, closed the week as the leader.

Actually Man City played very aggressively by taking many shots and 6 of them were on target but only 1 was successfully converted into a goal Newcastle's defense was very strong their goalkeeper was able to make 5 saves made by Man City players so they did try hard not to lose points a draw is not a bad result for both teams this is a fair result for them even though Man City had to be shifted to 2nd place temporarily but Man City can still catch up on the points they failed to get maybe in the upcoming matches they will come back if Liverpool are careless and lose some points.

[mammusu]

The match has ended and Manchester United were a disagree again allowing Tottenham Hotspur to score you 3 goals at home without having any response. Manchester United
are a finished club and I don't think there's going to be any comeback from this with the current manager still being incharge. Things need to change from the manager resigning or getting fired and someone with a vision gets hired. There are many coaches out of job that can do better than what Erik ten Hag is doing. Manchester United didn't look like themselves today and they were second best in everything. The red card isn't an excuse to play this poorly as they weren't just worth watching.

I just hear the song "you're getting sack in the morning" along with the match, which mean Ten Hag's position is currently vulnerable today. The official must think to replace the right coach for MU today if they want fans still come to old traford. From beginning this session Ten Hag can't mix the right strategy for MU even have some best player in his position. They have fragile defender and Many holes on center field, so when I look in forward, they have rashford and Zirkzee, but both are blunt, they can't improvise when get the ball. So why wait so long for looking a new coach?

The urge for ten hag to be sacked has actually emerged since the middle of last season where ten hag also failed to bring Manchester United to qualify for the Champions League, although previously Manchester United had evaluated ten hag's performance but for some reason they still retained ten hag as a coach, I think since the arrival of ten hag actually Manchester United have spent a lot of money to buy a lot of good players,  Zirkzee, Anthony, De Light, and also several other players he bought were the best players at their previous club, but the strange thing is that when the player was recruited by Manchester United, their performance actually declined, so we can indeed say that if Ten Hag game strategy and training are questionable at the moment?
I think if indeed the current management cares about their team, of course the change of coach should be the solution at this time.

[SatoPrincess]

Bruno Fernandes' red card changed everything for Manchester United, and Tottenham's chances of securing a win increased from that point on. Tottenham dominate games when they have a man advantage, so it was natural for Manchester United to come under pressure throughout the second half.

Of course. After the red card got by Bruno Fernandes, Man United played with 10 players only. Man United also lost a player who becomes the mastermind of Man United attacking, Bruno Fernandes is surely irreplaceable. When Bruno Fernandes isn't on the lineup, Man United attack is unorganized. I can understand if Man United couldn't keep up with Tottenham's game. Meanwhile Tottenham becomes more confident and they fully dominated the match. So, it is reasonable if they could win with 3 goals.

Manchester United cannot hide behind the red card picked by Bruno Fernandes. United were already losing the game, Tottenham dominated the game from the beginning and they could have scored two more goals before Bruno Fernandes was sent off. The players looked unmotivated from the start, Andre Onana and Garnacho were the only players who were putting any real effort into the game. I can’t believe United fans are defending this loss at home. Arsenal had a red card against Manchester City, and they managed a draw. What stopped ETH from changing his tactics to fit the changes in the game.

[mamesso]

I just hear the song "you're getting sack in the morning" along with the match, which mean Ten Hag's position is currently vulnerable today. The official must think to replace the right coach for MU today if they want fans still come to old traford. From beginning this session Ten Hag can't mix the right strategy for MU even have some best player in his position. They have fragile defender and Many holes on center field, so when I look in forward, they have rashford and Zirkzee, but both are blunt, they can't improvise when get the ball.

The defeat to Tottenham means Man United have not tasted victory in 3 matches in two different competitions, the continued poor results have put Ten Hag in a difficult position. The fans were visibly disappointed by the humiliating result, and they stormed out of Old Trafford before the final whistle blew. The poor results were achieved due to Ten Hag inability to handle the team well, The players seem to have difficulty bringing out their abilities because they are unable to understand the tactics used by the coach.

So why wait so long for looking a new coach?

Here are the bad records achieved by Man United this season:
• Lost 3-0 to Tottenham at Old Trafford
• Lost 3-0 to Liverpool at Old Trafford
• Are 12th in the Premier League.
• Have won just 3 of their last 9 games.

There is no reason to keep him, it's time for him to go out.

[Pokapoka124]

So why wait so long for looking a new coach?

Here are the bad records achieved by Man United this season:
• Lost 3-0 to Tottenham at Old Trafford
• Lost 3-0 to Liverpool at Old Trafford
• Are 12th in the Premier League.
• Have won just 3 of their last 9 games.

There is no reason to keep him, it's time for him to go out.

Ten Hag has been given another opportunity to lead the Red Devils to the bottom of the league standings. Ten Hag is the worst United manager post SAF. Ten Hag was given the freedom to buy the players he wants and even get rid of the player he doesn’t. I’m not going to call names but we know who. And still the team is underperforming. Something is wrong about the Manchester United mentality, good players would come to the club and not be able to perform under Ten Hag. Sancho was a flop at Manchester United but is doing incredibly well in Chelsea. I saw a picture online today and I think it properly express how Ten Hag progress has been for United so far.

[panjul07]

Manchester United cannot hide behind the red card picked by Bruno Fernandes. United were already losing the game, Tottenham dominated the game from the beginning and they could have scored two more goals before Bruno Fernandes was sent off. The players looked unmotivated from the start, Andre Onana and Garnacho were the only players who were putting any real effort into the game. I can’t believe United fans are defending this loss at home.

I have to agree with your opinion because I also believe that even if there was no red card for Man United, Tottenham would still win the match because how they played before the red card was better than the red devils.
I'm speechless to be honest when I have to comment about United's performance with Ten Hag, because since the first match with Ten Hag, I can say that I do not see United as what they should be.
Starting from the players he brought, players he let to go and till the strategies he tried to use so far, all were questionable for me because what he did is like something unpredictable but questionable at the same time.
I do not even understand why the management preferred to keep him as the coach this season after a bad season last year although he could give a "small" consolation trophy but in overall performance, United were really bad till now.

[Swordsoffreedom]

The newly promoted Ipswich town is performing just very well in the England premier league. their game between Aston villa have just ended with a 2-2 score draw it was indeed an excellent performance from Ipswich town players, because before the kickoff I was thinking that it will going to be a most win for Aston villa due their good performance in the premier league but though Ipswich town was able to hold them full time draw, watching the game was indeed an interesting one for me.

Well, luck was ran out for Aston Villa in this game. They dropped two points. They just were very poor in their gameplay. Their top and bottom were so sloppy in this game. They were very open at the back. This made them vulnerable to counterattacks. They were very imbalanced by not having a natural RB. Their players often give the ball away to their opponents.

Also, it's hard to figure out who was the best player in that game. Anyone who plays below their average may pay for it in the next games if they keep it up.

Ipswich have been really impressive. They have played City, Liverpool and Aston Villa already and gave a really good show in all of these matches. I think if they can keep up their performance, they will surprise everyone by staying in the league next season too. It's all about being able to keep your momentum and scoring goals and not conceding. Easier said than done. But they have been really prolific, Liam Delap has been a very exciting player for them, too.

this season is going to be really fun to see because the lower part of the table has some good clubs. Wolves are now 20th, but as Arne Slot also said in the post-match interview, they really don't play like a 20th club would. Ipswich, Everton, and Wolves will all bounce back in due time, and that part of the table is going to have very exciting fights to stay up in the league.

[Ayers]

Watching Chelsea - Brighton was really fun. The first half I mean because the second half wasn't that good. We watched all of those 6 goals in one half. I missed watching Chelsea like this so much. 

They really look promising at the early stages of the season for the first time in a while. Palmer is such a game changer... It was like "Palmer 4 - 2 Brighton".    Scoring 4 goals in a half is insane!

Chelsea are currently the most productive team in the PL with 15 goals. I really hope to see them in a title race this time. Those nice days in the past don't look so far away from us now either.

It looks like Chelsea has somehow found a lot of confidence. At least that’s what I think looking at the last few matches that they have played. Remember, Chelsea does not have a single loss in the last five matches. Which is not very usual from Chelsea. At least it wasn’t usual in the last season. I also hope that Chelsea will actually be in the title race alongside the other big clubs. It is gonna be great to see a turn around like that from Chelsea after they finished in such a bad position in the last season. Well, they actually finished in a decent position, and if not for the FA Cup final win from Manchester United, Chelsea have been able to play in the Europa League. But I would like to see Chelsea push for the first four spots this season. And the way they are performing right now, it is not going to be very surprising if they actually finish in the top four positions.

[Marykeller]

Due to the defeat, Manchester United are still struggling in 12th position with 7 points from 6 matches. Manchester United also has the potential to drop to 13th position if Bournemouth wins against Southampton in the next match, so Manchester United certainly need to regret their defeat today. While Chelsea have improved recently with three consecutive wins, this is certainly good after a long time.

True. Man United is among the mediocre team now. Seeing Man United is in 12th place, I remembered that Chelsea was in the position in season 2022-2023. At that time, Man United was in the top 3 (UCL zone). But now, Chelsea is in the UCL zone (top 4), meanwhile Man United is in 12th place.  

Still the same in the last season of 2023/2024, Chelsea was having bad playoffs of matches that had them at the 12 position at the beginning of last season, later landed at the 6th position before the end of 2023/2024, and Manchester United that was in top 3 of the PL, fails to remain their(top 3) before the end of last season.

That being said, the same scenario can still happen this season in a reverse case, in which we can see Manchester United having a good comeback in their team before the end of the season, and we will be surprised to see them later qualifying for the Europa League. All hopes are not lost in the Manchester United team; things can change in the team, which can be the call to sack Ten Hag to be replaced by a new coach that will turn around the team's ball possession to be a fantastic one in winning matches. There is still much time, to see that happening, if I am to say.

[aylabadia05]

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Still the same in the last season of 2023/2024, Chelsea was having bad playoffs of matches that had them at the 12 position at the beginning of last season, later landed at the 6th position before the end of 2023/2024, and Manchester United that was in top 3 of the PL, fails to remain their(top 3) before the end of last season.

That being said, the same scenario can still happen this season in a reverse case, in which we can see Manchester United having a good comeback in their team before the end of the season, and we will be surprised to see them later qualifying for the Europa League. All hopes are not lost in the Manchester United team; things can change in the team, which can be the call to sack Ten Hag to be replaced by a new coach that will turn around the team's ball possession to be a fantastic one in winning matches. There is still much time, to see that happening, if I am to say.

As a fan, I always support Manchester United's big plans in achieving their goals at the end of the season. But the problem is, I will no longer have high expectations for them because failure is more likely. Ten Hag struggled all season and this doesn't just happen in one season, so I'm just supporting for it without expecting too much.

Of course, there is still a lot of time to hope for a change, but when they have to lose a lot of points then the chances will be even smaller. Other teams also need points and try to give their best, so the more points Manchester United fails to secure, the lower this team's chances of being in the European zone. For the next match, Manchester United will visit the Estádio do Dragão in the continuation of the Europa League match.

[JiiBs]

I just hear the song "you're getting sack in the morning" along with the match, which mean Ten Hag's position is currently vulnerable today. The official must think to replace the right coach for MU today if they want fans still come to old traford. From beginning this session Ten Hag can't mix the right strategy for MU even have some best player in his position.

It’s been slow coming but, it’s really coming. How can you have just a point to show after haven’t played 7points after 6 games played with a negative goal difference, that’s just bad, really bad. Ten Hag haven’t been a good coach with Manchester United and there isn’t any evidence that he would do any better this season. In fact, he might as well produce some of his worst this season if allowed to continue his management.
Zirkzee remains one of his best to the edition from the transfer season but, without a good tactics in play which he obviously doesn’t have (Ten Hag) and not a good supply of balls to the youngster, he would be just as ineffective as the rest. Manchester United needs a new coach.

[eightdots]

Due to the defeat, Manchester United are still struggling in 12th position with 7 points from 6 matches. Manchester United also has the potential to drop to 13th position if Bournemouth wins against Southampton in the next match, so Manchester United certainly need to regret their defeat today. While Chelsea have improved recently with three consecutive wins, this is certainly good after a long time.

True. Man United is among the mediocre team now. Seeing Man United is in 12th place, I remembered that Chelsea was in the position in season 2022-2023. At that time, Man United was in the top 3 (UCL zone). But now, Chelsea is in the UCL zone (top 4), meanwhile Man United is in 12th place.  

Still the same in the last season of 2023/2024, Chelsea was having bad playoffs of matches that had them at the 12 position at the beginning of last season, later landed at the 6th position before the end of 2023/2024, and Manchester United that was in top 3 of the PL, fails to remain their(top 3) before the end of last season.

That being said, the same scenario can still happen this season in a reverse case, in which we can see Manchester United having a good comeback in their team before the end of the season, and we will be surprised to see them later qualifying for the Europa League. All hopes are not lost in the Manchester United team; things can change in the team, which can be the call to sack Ten Hag to be replaced by a new coach that will turn around the team's ball possession to be a fantastic one in winning matches. There is still much time, to see that happening, if I am to say.

Similar scenarios seem to be happening again and again. Manchester United's football is not pleasing to the fans and has been for a long time. The team needed to make a radical change but the management did not listen to these criticisms. They are now in the middle of the table like an ordinary team and the fans' expectations are decreasing day by day.

They can play very well one match but very bad football in the following matches. There is no standard in the team in terms of play and it is not easy to fix such a problem.

[gabbie2010]

I just hear the song "you're getting sack in the morning" along with the match, which mean Ten Hag's position is currently vulnerable today. The official must think to replace the right coach for MU today if they want fans still come to old traford. From beginning this session Ten Hag can't mix the right strategy for MU even have some best player in his position.

It’s been slow coming but, it’s really coming. How can you have just a point to show after haven’t played 7points after 6 games played with a negative goal difference, that’s just bad, really bad. Ten Hag haven’t been a good coach with Manchester United and there isn’t any evidence that he would do any better this season. In fact, he might as well produce some of his worst this season if allowed to continue his management.
Zirkzee remains one of his best to the edition from the transfer season but, without a good tactics in play which he obviously doesn’t have (Ten Hag) and not a good supply of balls to the youngster, he would be just as ineffective as the rest. Manchester United needs a new coach.

Erik ten Hag should have been sacked towards the end of last season following his dismal performance in both premier league and UCL however I believe winning FA against Man City must have been a relief for him which must have prompted their board to have a change of decision by giving him more time, however despite the massive amount of money spent last summer for new signings yet the club had not made any significant improvement which should be attributed to Erik ten Hag lack of enough tactical input to the team, I think in nextfew days definitely a decision would be taken.