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October 03, 2024, 08:34:01 PM
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Because I am sure, with Manchester United's poor results so far and also the great disappointment experienced by fans, it might also make management move quickly to appoint a new coach for Manchester United.
I agree with you. When Manchester United won the FA Cup last season I thought maybe Ten Hag will perform better next season. And it seems one of the reasons the club management did not fire him last season was because Ten Hag managed to bring one trophy to Manchester United. But it seems Ten Hag still can't fulfill his responsibility as a manager. Manchester United is still like a mediocre team. As a fan I think almost all fans ask the club management to change the coach. It is very difficult to see United slumping for several seasons and they are no longer competing at the top of the standings. It seems the club board should find another coach for United because the fans are really angry with Ten Hag.
But when the benchmark is only on trophies, in the end the same situation always occurs where Ten Hag cannot balance Manchester United's overall performance and can only focus on one competition that allows them to get especially the FA when compared to the EPL or other competitions sometimes it is considered not too prestigious so 1 trophy cannot cover Manchester United's poor performance in other competitions including in the Champions League and EPL last season.

It's just that management is too confident that Ten Hag is capable and at this time they should see that Manchester United's performance is far from expectations.
6 matches 2 wins, 1 draw and 3 defeats are clearly very bad results for a class of Manchester United even now they are in a standings that are not too appropriate for them where they are almost close to the relegation zone because they are only 4 points adrift of Cristal Palace who is on the border of the relegation zone.

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October 03, 2024, 08:38:01 PM
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What do you say about the Aston Villa - Manchester United game in three days?  Huh



Aston Villa are on fire! They have been unbeaten for 7 official games and won 6 of them as well. They even beat Bayern Munich last night. Can you imagine?  Grin  Emery's students are unstoppable recently.

On the other hand Manchester United continue to mess up. They are even worse in big games. I don't think they will get any point here too. I believe Aston Villa win @2.31 is worth taking the risk.
Villa has proven time and time again how great they are, and I know we are not going to see the price changing anytime soon and we are going to face with some bigger trouble when the time comes. We shouldn't really be worried about it too much, just realize we are going to get something marginally better from this one way or another.

So all in all, if we are going to deal with a better result, then betting on Villa will be easier choice and we will get a win there. Plus 2.31 odds for Villa is just something I can't miss, because they should have been under 2.00, they are much better team right now and no idea why odds do not show this.

Unai Emery has done a great job with them and they finished fourth last year and they are fifth right now, with a potential to finish better. United sucked so far and I do not think they have what it takes to win at all, they are going to end up with much worse results for the foreseeable future and Villa is one of those games. I believe we are going to see Villa have a tough victory, they will of course not dominate, and if there is some lucky shot go in type of situation maybe United may even win, but I believe Villa will get a close victory for sure.

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October 03, 2024, 09:03:44 PM
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I agree with you. When Manchester United won the FA Cup last season I thought maybe Ten Hag will perform better next season. And it seems one of the reasons the club management did not fire him last season was because Ten Hag managed to bring one trophy to Manchester United.

Even after Manchester United won the FA Cup, I knew things wouldn’t really change for Manchester United because the FA Cup win was just like luck. Manchester United should have just allowed Ten Hag leave since last season, we are already in another season, but Manchester United’s performance is still so poor. Manchester United are struggling every week, and there is no sign that there will be improvement in the club's performance. It’s just obvious that Ten Hag is not the appropriate coach for Manchester United.

As a fan I think almost all fans ask the club management to change the coach.

All Manchester United fans are just tired of ten hag, everyone wants him to leave the club because they are not seeing any sign of improvement in the club, rather, Manchester United performance is getting worse, so everyone already concluded that ten hag is not the right coach for Manchester United.

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October 03, 2024, 09:51:11 PM
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All Manchester United fans are just tired of ten hag, everyone wants him to leave the club because they are not seeing any sign of improvement in the club, rather, Manchester United performance is getting worse, so everyone already concluded that ten hag is not the right coach for Manchester United.
I don't think that Manchester United's progress is more important to Manchester United fans than the Manchester United management. If with all the cries and complaints from fans about Erik Ten Hag's performance since last season, the management is still reluctant to sack him or give an order to him due to some deals they had with him (which we don't know), then they (the management) should face the consequences of their decisions. It only saddens me that the management seems not to care about their fans anymore as their decisions keeps hurting the fans.

By weekend, Manchester United will be meeting Aston Villa and with Erik Ten Hag still there, we already know our fate. Due to the poor performances of the Machester United teams, it is obvious that the outcome of the weekend match will still be poor as usual.

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October 03, 2024, 10:11:08 PM
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An easy week this week.
All the top teams will have a "weaker opponent".
I'm expetiong a win for Liverpool Arsenal, City and Chelsea.

Newcastle however it will not have an easy life versus Everton, neither Spurs imho.

Getting in the interesting time of the years with overlapping cup games.

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October 03, 2024, 10:18:53 PM
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What do you say about the Aston Villa - Manchester United game in three days?  Huh



Aston Villa are on fire! They have been unbeaten for 7 official games and won 6 of them as well. They even beat Bayern Munich last night. Can you imagine?  Grin  Emery's students are unstoppable recently.

On the other hand Manchester United continue to mess up. They are even worse in big games. I don't think they will get any point here too. I believe Aston Villa win @2.31 is worth taking the risk.
It's so sad to see another day Manchester United would lose. It has been enough loss for them for several matches now. And their next opponent is Aston Villa. The next 4 games are against, Aston Villa, Brentford, Westham, and Chelsea. And with the way they are performing, I only expect them to manage and get one win out of the 4 games and that should be against Brentford. The rest of the match they have ahead all the club would win them. Aston Villa, Chelsea, and Westham will win their game and I am certain.


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October 03, 2024, 10:21:34 PM
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I'm surprised Man Utd managed to earn a point on FC Porto in tonight's Europa League game. I thought it was all over when Porto took a 3-2 lead, but, despite Fernandes getting red card in 81st minute, Maguire scored the equaliser in additional time. I guess that's a small success.

Anyhow, speculations about Ten Hag getting sacked soon intensify. Apparently, he had a talk with Jim Ratcliffe after the embarrassing defeat against Tottenham, and rumours say that he may only have two matches left to save his position (Porto and Aston Villa).

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October 03, 2024, 10:30:11 PM
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An easy week this week.
All the top teams will have a "weaker opponent".
I'm expetiong a win for Liverpool Arsenal, City and Chelsea.

Newcastle however it will not have an easy life versus Everton, neither Spurs imho.

Getting in the interesting time of the years with overlapping cup games.
We've seen Nottingham Forest go to Anfield this season to win against Liverpool and we've also seen other shocking results in the English Premier League so I don't think there's any "weaker opponent" in the league at the moment. Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester City and Chelsea without doubt have been impressive with their results this season so it's understandable to predict that they'll win their games this weekend but it's not a guarantee for them to win because you think they'll playing against supposed "weaker opponents ".

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October 03, 2024, 10:58:57 PM
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It's so sad to see another day Manchester United would lose. It has been enough loss for them for several matches now. And their next opponent is Aston Villa. The next 4 games are against, Aston Villa, Brentford, Westham, and Chelsea. And with the way they are performing, I only expect them to manage and get one win out of the 4 games and that should be against Brentford. The rest of the match they have ahead all the club would win them. Aston Villa, Chelsea, and Westham will win their game and I am certain.

Seriously it is a worrying time for any Manchester United fan, Aston Villa are currently pumped after defeating Bayern Munich who are yet to lose a game this season, I also do not think Manchester United will make their bout of this match. With the form in which Jhon Duran is currently on and the imbalance in the Manchester United defense we could see Aston scoring more than two in this game. Should Manchester United lose the Aston Villa match then it could be Ten Hag finale and they would be having a new coach after international duty. The remaining three matches you mentioned I think only Chelsea are a threat to them there. West Ham are never themselves against top clubs and this season they themselves have been awful also Brentford doesn’t look like that team to cause them problems. But Aston Villa and Chelsea got actually get sacked in my opinion

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October 03, 2024, 11:35:57 PM
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When a team is down, the coach is the first person to blame. The coach is like the brain and the players are like the body parts, all body parts will move following the brain's instructions, as well as football players who always follow the coach's instructions.

That is how it is thought and in fact for me that is the great logic, but thinking carefully about everything that has been said, many people do not like it when people speak badly of Ten Hag, but how is that done? He is the main person responsible, that is like a nonsense , if someone builds the bridge and it falls it is not the fault of the workers, it is entirely the fault of the engineer or engineers, so the engineers cannot blame the workers and say that it is their fault, it is something that does not make sense, so in this sense things are always very likely to lead one to think that it is a fact that those to blame will always be 80% on the part of the coach.

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Today at 12:06:44 AM
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What do you say about the Aston Villa - Manchester United game in three days?  Huh



Aston Villa are on fire! They have been unbeaten for 7 official games and won 6 of them as well. They even beat Bayern Munich last night. Can you imagine?  Grin  Emery's students are unstoppable recently.

On the other hand Manchester United continue to mess up. They are even worse in big games. I don't think they will get any point here too. I believe Aston Villa win @2.31 is worth taking the risk.

Aston Villa is in a very good mood after they beat Bayern in the Champions League. And Manchester United, who often got bad results in the European League. Maybe struggle to beat them in an away game.

It's very obvious Villa will be more favored to take three points instead of United at Villa Park. They looked very solid on their defence with 5 backs formation. Their attackers can also do fast counter attacks.



So, i think 2.26 for Villa is very worthy to bet on. But for a much safer bet, I have double chance Draw or Villa. Villa's odds are slightly down. Bookies think United is struggling against them.

I predict Villa will win with a narrow score. They may be parking the bus against United. I expect a bad game, good result from them.

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Today at 12:21:15 AM
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What do you say about the Aston Villa - Manchester United game in three days?  Huh



Aston Villa are on fire! They have been unbeaten for 7 official games and won 6 of them as well. They even beat Bayern Munich last night. Can you imagine?  Grin  Emery's students are unstoppable recently.

On the other hand Manchester United continue to mess up. They are even worse in big games. I don't think they will get any point here too. I believe Aston Villa win @2.31 is worth taking the risk.
Villa has proven time and time again how great they are, and I know we are not going to see the price changing anytime soon and we are going to face with some bigger trouble when the time comes. We shouldn't really be worried about it too much, just realize we are going to get something marginally better from this one way or another.

So all in all, if we are going to deal with a better result, then betting on Villa will be easier choice and we will get a win there. Plus 2.31 odds for Villa is just something I can't miss, because they should have been under 2.00, they are much better team right now and no idea why odds do not show this.

Unai Emery has done a great job with them and they finished fourth last year and they are fifth right now, with a potential to finish better. United sucked so far and I do not think they have what it takes to win at all, they are going to end up with much worse results for the foreseeable future and Villa is one of those games. I believe we are going to see Villa have a tough victory, they will of course not dominate, and if there is some lucky shot go in type of situation maybe United may even win, but I believe Villa will get a close victory for sure.
Yes I agree with you, nothing to harm if we bet aston villa at this time, even they play at home, their statistic also really good, they only lost 1 on the last 10 matches, and that happened when meet Arsenal which I think from material player and strategy much more powerful than Aston villa. So, MU today is not feeling well because they get a lot of pressure from fans and media who wants the management to replace the new coach. They are being hunted to recovery fast form lost and revived their colleagues on top premier league. This look like mission impossible for MU to make happen fast when ten hag is still on old traford.

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Today at 12:58:02 AM
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I predict Villa will win with a narrow score. They may be parking the bus against United. I expect a bad game, good result from them.
If we look at their stats, I don't think Villa needs to park the bust against United to win the game. On average they have 45% possession per match so far[1], while having a decent amount of xG and low xGA. United on the other hand has an average possession of +50% with more than 1 xGA per game[2]. If I'm reading this correctly Villa should have a decent chance to score goals even if they don't hold the ball for long. They should press United aggressively to force United's players to make mistakes since that's how other teams scored goals against them, usually near their penalty box. CMIIW.

[1] https://fbref.com/en/squads/8602292d/Aston-Villa-Stats
[2] https://fbref.com/en/squads/19538871/2024-2025/matchlogs/all_comps/schedule/Manchester-United-Scores-and-Fixtures-All-Competitions

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Today at 02:19:58 AM
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I'm surprised Man Utd managed to earn a point on FC Porto in tonight's Europa League game. I thought it was all over when Porto took a 3-2 lead, but, despite Fernandes getting red card in 81st minute, Maguire scored the equaliser in additional time. I guess that's a small success.

Anyhow, speculations about Ten Hag getting sacked soon intensify. Apparently, he had a talk with Jim Ratcliffe after the embarrassing defeat against Tottenham, and rumours say that he may only have two matches left to save his position (Porto and Aston Villa).

With the look of things, I don’t see ten hag beings United manager till the end of the season. Reason being that’s he isn’t the problem. But then he is trying to cover up the problem which now will cause his job. The whole structure that has been put in place should be something that every United fans expect the team to be a competitive team and challenge for major trophies. But this expectation is not what they’re getting. Ten hag has failed to stand by his principles rather being afraid of what people say, he has decided to do what pleases so set of individuals in the club by not take up responsibilities and making concrete decisions about some players. Man U still have some much to be done, to see them being a competitive team and challenging for trophies.
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Today at 02:34:21 AM
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This week, English clubs had an outstanding performance in European competitions. Out of seven teams, six secured victories, with only Manchester United drawing. Here are the match results:

- Arsenal – PSG: 2-0 
- Slovan – Manchester City: 0-4 
- Aston Villa – Bayern: 1-0 
- Liverpool – Bologna: 2-0 
- Ferencváros – Tottenham: 1-2 
- Chelsea – Gent: 4-2 
- Porto – Manchester United: 3-3

These results allowed England to make an impressive leap in the seasonal rankings, jumping from sixth to third place (+1.857). If Manchester United had won, England could have achieved the maximum score of 2.000.

Current ranking:

1. Portugal – 7.000 (+1.200) 
2. Czech Republic – 6.900 (+0.600) 
3. England – 6.714 (+1.857) 
4. Germany – 6.375 (+1.375) 
5. France – 6.214 (+1.000) 
6. Italy – 6.125 (+1.250)

England now has a strong chance of finishing in the top two of the seasonal rankings, which would grant an extra Champions League spot. As a reminder, last season's top performers were clubs from Italy and Germany.

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Today at 03:26:51 AM
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What do you say about the Aston Villa - Manchester United game in three days?  Huh



Aston Villa are on fire! They have been unbeaten for 7 official games and won 6 of them as well. They even beat Bayern Munich last night. Can you imagine?  Grin  Emery's students are unstoppable recently.

On the other hand Manchester United continue to mess up. They are even worse in big games. I don't think they will get any point here too. I believe Aston Villa win @2.31 is worth taking the risk.
It's so sad to see another day Manchester United would lose. It has been enough loss for them for several matches now. And their next opponent is Aston Villa. The next 4 games are against, Aston Villa, Brentford, Westham, and Chelsea. And with the way they are performing, I only expect them to manage and get one win out of the 4 games and that should be against Brentford. The rest of the match they have ahead all the club would win them. Aston Villa, Chelsea, and Westham will win their game and I am certain.


I thought you were a Man United fan because you looked quite sad to see Manchester United continue to lose but after I read the whole thing it seems I was wrong you were just trying to predict the results that would happen to Man United and win only one match against Brentford. If that is the case Man United will be even more depressed in the standings if they experience 3 consecutive defeats and I think the fans will be very disappointed. Man Unitefwill try their best to at least get 1 point when facing Chelsea or Aston Villa and win against West Ham and Brentford so that Man United will be in the middle of the standings seeing yesterday's match which was able to hold Porto to a draw it seems we can't judge Man United as too weak when facing those 4 clubs.

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Today at 04:45:47 AM
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I believe that every Manchester United supporter around the world is tired and frustrated with Erik Ten Hag and his failed tactics. Erik Ten Hag has been given more time than any past manager in Manchester United to make a difference but there is still no improvement in the team’s performance. Last night’s game against Porto in the Europa League would have relieved the pressure a little on ETH only if Manchester United had won but they drew the game after getting a two goal lead advantage.


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