⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Ryu_Ar1]

The current squad rotation mechanism Liverpool manager Arne Slot is using is making it very difficult for Premier League Fantasy managers to rightly predict players that'll start their league games. Not only is he rotating the attacking line but he's also rotating the defense line just like he decided to start Tsimikas ahead of the club's regular left back Andy Robertson. The decision to leave Luiz Diaz out of his starting XI was very surprising but since he's the manager, there's nothing that can be done about it as he was able to grab all three points at the end of the day. The result of today's English Premier League games wasn't that entertaining if you ask me but I believe tomorrow's games will give more entertaining results

This also happened because they did not buy players who made Slot only fixated on existing players because indeed their stock was quite minimal, especially for the attack line, especially with the condition of Nunez who still could not contribute more especially after his playing minutes were cut, making the conditions from Liverpool in rotating a little choked up.

But even so, as long as they still managed to get 3 points even though only with a narrow victory, I think they still haven't experienced major obstacles, which means that everything can still be anticipated well by the Slot so far.

With the condition of Nunez who is still stuck on the bench, it seems that when the rotation of players becomes more difficult, Slot should now be more willing to take risks, although we are certainly aware that sometimes including Nunez as a targetman also has a considerable risk because he still cannot contribute more, especially for the problem of goal productivity.

[Docnaster]

And this is the result, surprising right?
A very competitive match, both teams kept each other clean sheet even though Aston Villa had good chances. Ten Hag seems to have started to find the right strategy for Man United but not sure if such a strategy can provide an improvement to get satisfactory results.
With this draw, it is an added value for Ten Hag and gives a little bit of an improved reputation even though it is not really convincing.

Because Manchester United were able to get a draw in today's match doesn’t mean their performance is improving, just a match can’t be used to judge a club's performance. I know their performance wasn’t really bad in the match, I never expected a draw in the match. I was expecting Aston Villa to comfortably win the match, but both of them couldn’t score any goal in the match, and they both shared the point. Let’s see how Manchester United will perform in coming matches, but Manchester United getting a draw doesn’t mean Ten hag shouldn’t be sacked, because I don’t think Ten hag will be able to improve the club’s performance.

Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag did grant an interview after his side's draw at Villa Park today in which he suggested that he's on the same line of plan with the club management. The Dutchman doesn't look like a man who's afraid of losing his job at the moment and that I think is as a result of the backings he's currently getting from the club management. Getting a point today against Aston Villa was a good result but I don't think it changes the fact that Manchester United is still far from becoming competitive in the league

[Sandra_hakeem]

Well, Arsenal did not do anything extraordinary aside winning the game. Being a goal down and coming back to win the game is not longer a magic as teams often do it

yes, arsenal did the most exceptional performance - one of which was a good one since it awarded them with 3 points and some goals to reckon. You're just full of hate for a team and fail to see their effort at the end.
Well, saka's goal really caught my fancy as he just came up from behind the defender, stole the ball and put it away in the net.

Southampton is currently on the verge of relegation and they are working hard to achieve it.

The 19th position on the table ain't cool at all. They're already in the relegation zone. I gotta say, this was a really tough one for wolves and Southampton as they may be out sooner or later.

[blue Snow]

But the unpredictable conditions for Manchester United are actually not only based on a busy schedule but also their erratic performance because of the dilapidation of their scheme in the match which makes their matches also difficult to guess .

In the end, speculation about Aston Villa and Manchester United ended where they only managed to collect 1 point in this match but in my opinion it was still quite good for Manchester United because at least they didn't lose points in today's match.
Although from the actual statistics Aston Villa is slightly superior but in this match Mancehster United is quite focused even when talking about opportunities they are more active than Aston Villa even though there are no goals scored in today's match.
Bruno also did not make silly mistakes like he did when facing Tottenham and Porto in previous matches so of course this is a positive thing even though they could not get 3 points.

I saw both teams played offensive and implement tight defense, so that situation made some player do physical confrontation on the fields as seen at the end of the match. yes, Villa is more bit have much ball possession maybe because play at their home. On other situation, Unai strategy is look better than ten hag when I look how their winger supply the ball to attacker, but again, The MU defense is tight. And another factor is unlucky, they didn't get a chance to shoot the ball in accurately because always blocked by MU defender, and vice versa it happen also when MU counterattacks to Aston Villa. But we don't know what happened to tenhag with this result?, is he got fired or still continue?

I just won bet it draw

[Stablexcoin]

I saw both teams played offensive and implement tight defense, so that situation made some player do physical confrontation on the fields as seen at the end of the match. yes, Villa is more bit have much ball possession maybe because play at their home. On other situation, Unai strategy is look better than ten hag when I look how their winger supply the ball to attacker, but again, The MU defense is tight. And another factor is unlucky, they didn't get a chance to shoot the ball in accurately because always blocked by MU defender, and vice versa it happen also when MU counterattacks to Aston Villa. But we don't know what happened to tenhag with this result?, is he got fired or still continue?

I just won bet it draw

Am glad you won your bet.

Meanwhile, nothing was interesting about the game. No good defensive and good offensive play. It was terrible. I got bored watching the match because Aston Villa would have scored since Manchester Untied failed to score. But i wont blame them, they had a strong match against Bayern and in the EFL too. So fatigue was affecting them irrespective of Watkins wasting all the chances they had in the game.

Truth be told, Man United defense was better today. All thanks to Maguire and others defenders. It seems Ten Hag is adopting a new strategy now. And if so, it worked for him today.

[Strongkored]

Truth be told, Man United defense was better today. All thanks to Maguire and others defenders. It seems Ten Hag is adopting a new strategy now. And if so, it worked for him today.

If usually Maguire is the most criticized this time at least he can help the club from defeat because a draw is better than a defeat and beating Aston Villa is a tough task at the moment.

Nottingham Forest regained points when facing a stronger team, is anyone betting on a draw in the Chelsea vs Nottingham Forest match? odds around @4.50, this is not a common choice but the brave are enjoying the profit.

[Oluwa-btc]

Truth be told, Man United defense was better today. All thanks to Maguire and others defenders. It seems Ten Hag is adopting a new strategy now. And if so, it worked for him today.

As much as you play for Manchester United, it's mandatory to defend the club. Today, most Manchester United players are not passionate about the club no more. Oh please, all thanks to Johnny Evans and the rest of the defenders, they complement themselves very well. At the end of the day, Johnny Evans was man of the match. There's nothing about strategy, it's just rotation honestly. I hate the way the ex players of Manchester United and sky sports target non british players and managers. This is not a good way to support the club honestly. Maybe Erik Ten Hag should drop Bruno Fernandez in my opinion next week.

[Justbillywitt]

Because Manchester United were able to get a draw in today's match doesn’t mean their performance is improving, just a match can’t be used to judge a club's performance. I know their performance wasn’t really bad in the match, I never expected a draw in the match. I was expecting Aston Villa to comfortably win the match, but both of them couldn’t score any goal in the match, and they both shared the point. Let’s see how Manchester United will perform in coming matches, but Manchester United getting a draw doesn’t mean Ten hag shouldn’t be sacked, because I don’t think Ten hag will be able to improve the club’s performance.

Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag did grant an interview after his side's draw at Villa Park today in which he suggested that he's on the same line of plan with the club management. The Dutchman doesn't look like a man who's afraid of losing his job at the moment and that I think is as a result of the backings he's currently getting from the club management. Getting a point today against Aston Villa was a good result but I don't think it changes the fact that Manchester United is still far from becoming competitive in the league

Considering how Manchester United have been losing matches lately and for them to come to Villa and get a point where majority of the people expected them to lose, I will say it's a good result for them. And by this result it means that Ten Hag has bought little time for himself. I prayed for him not to lose that match yesterday because it was becoming too much for him and he is human and he has feelings too. Even if Manchester United are going to sack him, it shouldn't be now. They should allow him handle the club till the end of the season. I know it's difficult for the club fans to keep enduring difficult results weeks in and out. But if they sack Ten Hag now who are they going to employ at this moment.

Most of the good coaches out there have a job currently or will they go for Lampard 😂 because he is just the manager I know that doesn't have a job that have a good knowledge about the premier League. So they should allow Ten Hag remain as the head coach, the time they were supposed to sack him has passed. But if they want to hire Lampard 😂😂 they should go ahead and sack Ten Hag.

[MainIbem]

Because Manchester United were able to get a draw in today's match doesn’t mean their performance is improving, just a match can’t be used to judge a club's performance. I know their performance wasn’t really bad in the match, I never expected a draw in the match. I was expecting Aston Villa to comfortably win the match, but both of them couldn’t score any goal in the match, and they both shared the point. Let’s see how Manchester United will perform in coming matches, but Manchester United getting a draw doesn’t mean Ten hag shouldn’t be sacked, because I don’t think Ten hag will be able to improve the club’s performance.

Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag did grant an interview after his side's draw at Villa Park today in which he suggested that he's on the same line of plan with the club management. The Dutchman doesn't look like a man who's afraid of losing his job at the moment and that I think is as a result of the backings he's currently getting from the club management. Getting a point today against Aston Villa was a good result but I don't think it changes the fact that Manchester United is still far from becoming competitive in the league

Considering how Manchester United have been losing matches lately and for them to come to Villa and get a point where majority of the people expected them to lose, I will say it's a good result for them. And by this result it means that Ten Hag has bought little time for himself. I prayed for him not to lose that match yesterday because it was becoming too much for him and he is human and he has feelings too. Even if Manchester United are going to sack him, it shouldn't be now. They should allow him handle the club till the end of the season. I know it's difficult for the club fans to keep enduring difficult results weeks in and out. But if they sack Ten Hag now who are they going to employ at this moment.

Most of the good coaches out there have a job currently or will they go for Lampard 😂 because he is just the manager I know that doesn't have a job that have a good knowledge about the premier League. So they should allow Ten Hag remain as the head coach, the time they were supposed to sack him has passed. But if they want to hire Lampard 😂😂 they should go ahead and sack Ten Hag.

The result was based on Erik Ten Hag trying to retain his position as the manager of Manchester United, if you notice the starting line-up you'll see that he selected his players out of pressure and I'm surprised that he even benched most of the players be bought including his best defenders, De Ligt and Martinez and there was no solid holding Midfield (either of Casemiro or Manuel Ugarte) but paired Eriksen with young and unfit Kobbie Maino, I'm suprised how it worked though cause Manchester United's Midfield didn't look very solid. Although Aston Villa didn't perform as expected cause they missed good chances and didn't create much counter attacks as expected, i think the pairing of Johnny Evans and Harry Maguire payed off, it's a suprise to everyone and they fought well to get a draw and give the board a tough decision to sack Ten Hag. The match against Porto and Aston Villa were criteria by the board to retain his position but he drew them, I think the board would be divided in sacking him. Well a meeting would be held within the week concerning his position let's see how it goes.

[Pandu Geddon]

I saw both teams played offensive and implement tight defense, so that situation made some player do physical confrontation on the fields as seen at the end of the match. yes, Villa is more bit have much ball possession maybe because play at their home. On other situation, Unai strategy is look better than ten hag when I look how their winger supply the ball to attacker, but again, The MU defense is tight. And another factor is unlucky, they didn't get a chance to shoot the ball in accurately because always blocked by MU defender, and vice versa it happen also when MU counterattacks to Aston Villa. But we don't know what happened to tenhag with this result?, is he got fired or still continue?

Either because of the lack of sharpness of Aston Villa's strikers or United's defense which played better than the matches against Porto and Tottenham. usually, Ten Hag plays De Ligt and Martinez as center backs. but in the match against Aston Villa, Ten Hag played Evans and Maguire.
They didn't play badly actually. but still, the draw made the supporters angry, who were actually dissatisfied with the performance of Ten Hag and the current United squad.

We will face the international break this week. and then I think Ten Hag must try hard to make United win the match. especially in the Europa League.

[Velvet78]

What is this guy talking about?    You showed belief? Where? I couldn't see that much of a belief during the most of the game. I just saw a team trying not to concede a goal that's all.

If it wasn't for Onana's great performance with 4 clean sheets so far, I can't imagine how much worse their condition would be. Maybe they would have even been in the relegation zone now.

I got really bored watching their "effort" against Aston Villa. It is sad to see even Bruno Fernandes in this condition. The only good thing I can remember about him is his superb free-kick hitting the post. 

[len01]

I saw both teams played offensive and implement tight defense, so that situation made some player do physical confrontation on the fields as seen at the end of the match. yes, Villa is more bit have much ball possession maybe because play at their home. On other situation, Unai strategy is look better than ten hag when I look how their winger supply the ball to attacker, but again, The MU defense is tight. And another factor is unlucky, they didn't get a chance to shoot the ball in accurately because always blocked by MU defender, and vice versa it happen also when MU counterattacks to Aston Villa. But we don't know what happened to tenhag with this result?, is he got fired or still continue?

I just won bet it draw

What I saw from the match was that both teams did not want to concede. It can be seen from Aston Villa performance which currently wants to maintain its position in the standings and on the one hand Aston Villa admits that Man United could have beaten Aston Villa. So this draw is Villa goal rather than having to end in defeat.
While Man United wants a draw to keep Ten Hag reputation looking good.
So the draw match is the desire of both teams and yesterday's match was really interesting, both teams gave each other resistance but strengthened each other's defense.

BTW, congratulations on your bet and as I remember the odds were quite large on a draw.

[Sandra_hakeem]

If it wasn't for Onana's great performance with 4 clean sheets so far, I can't imagine how much worse their condition would be. Maybe they would have even been in the relegation zone now.

where else do you think this kind of performance would lead them to at the end?? Manchester United is in the 14th position on the league table and that's some record to brag about?? I don't know why the administrators haven't resolved in sacking this man and showing him to his room... Even if I survived a serious comma, just to hear that Bournemouth is ahead of united in the league table, I'll sniff in disgust!
The man is just too relaxed and as the day goes by, things are getting much worse for them.

I got really bored watching their "effort" against Aston Villa. It is sad to see even Bruno Fernandes in this condition. The only good thing I can remember about him is his superb free-kick hitting the post. 

like I said in my previous post, this free kick was a stunner! Bruno has been so unlucky ever since the season begun. Moreso, Erick hasn't learnt that taking chances professionally is all it takes to leave that position.

[Pokapoka124]

Manchester City are struggling quite much in midfield currently against Fulham. Especially because of Kovacic... He has been making important mistakes so far. This makes them struggle more to create dangerous attacks and be vulnerable to attacks in defense at the same time. 

Rodri's being out for a long time due to injury makes things really difficult for his team. It wasn't unexpected of course. Because you know how he contributes to the defense and attacking area both. There is nobody else in the squad who can play in his role with the same impact.

And yes, while I was making this post Fulham got 1-0 ahead at Etihad.    Raul Jimenez's assist was incredible!

It was a close one for Manchester City. The Cityzens won by 3 goals to 2 but Fulham had many chances that could have changed the trajectory for them if they had converted those chances. Thanks to Adama Traore who threw all the chances away and helped Manchester City win. It is obvious that Manchester City without Kevin De Bruyne and Rodri are not so powerful. Rodri makes the difference for Manchester City game in game out.

[Docnaster]

I think there was an epic encounter that happened in the English Premier League yesterday that we're not just talking about probably because we're too interested in what's happening at Manchester United. Yesterday in the final league game of the weekend, Brighton came from 2 goals down to defeat Ange Postecoglou's Tottenham Hotspur at the Amex stadium. It was a result that helped Fabian Hurzeler men picket her third win of the season as well as moving to the 6th position in the league table. Was I the only one who was stunned by that result? Did any of you expect Tottenham to lose that game after going 2 goals up?

[mammusu]

What is this guy talking about?    You showed belief? Where? I couldn't see that much of a belief during the most of the game. I just saw a team trying not to concede a goal that's all.

If it wasn't for Onana's great performance with 4 clean sheets so far, I can't imagine how much worse their condition would be. Maybe they would have even been in the relegation zone now.

I got really bored watching their "effort" against Aston Villa. It is sad to see even Bruno Fernandes in this condition. The only good thing I can remember about him is his superb free-kick hitting the post.  

doesn't it sad to see Ten Hag face at the moment and even after the defeat to Tottenham and the draw to Aston Villa he can still proud at the moment, the results obtained by Manchester United in several consecutive games do not make him admit his inability to coaching and continue to blame his players for playing below standard,  Their performance in that match was indeed quite bad and strangely Ten Hag could not find the right solution to restore their performance and instead made substitutions which in my opinion did not have any effect on their game, yes, Ten Hag should have thanked Onana in the match who appeared impressive throughout the match to prevent them from getting worse results in match.

[Velvet78]

where else do you think this kind of performance would lead them to at the end?? Manchester United is in the 14th position on the league table and that's some record to brag about?? I don't know why the administrators haven't resolved in sacking this man and showing him to his room... Even if I survived a serious comma, just to hear that Bournemouth is ahead of united in the league table, I'll sniff in disgust!
The man is just too relaxed and as the day goes by, things are getting much worse for them.

Probably worse than this. 



I know the gap between the teams isn't that huge yet. I don't mean the leader or the teams around it of course. I just consider they have no chance for the title once again.

However despite the situation Manchester United can't finish at a proper position by playing like this most of the time. ten Hag always says the same things because he is desperate now. There is nothing we can consider as progress.

like I said in my previous post, this free kick was a stunner! Bruno has been so unlucky ever since the season begun. Moreso, Erick hasn't learnt that taking chances professionally is all it takes to leave that position.

Yeah this is really sad to see. Bruno Fernandes' contribution changes everything. When he leads the team and contributes more, they get better results more often. But even if he is playing like this I just don't know...

[Obim34]

I think there was an epic encounter that happened in the English Premier League yesterday that we're not just talking about probably because we're too interested in what's happening at Manchester United. Yesterday in the final league game of the weekend, Brighton came from 2 goals down to defeat Ange Postecoglou's Tottenham Hotspur at the Amex stadium. It was a result that helped Fabian Hurzeler men picket her third win of the season as well as moving to the 6th position in the league table. Was I the only one who was stunned by that result? Did any of you expect Tottenham to lose that game after going 2 goals up?

The result was unexpected, but what else can be said knowing fully that Tottenham are currently a flopping team and their opponent whom they played against are currently going head to head against big teams like Arsenal (United not included ). I think Brighton no longer needs to be under looked or underestimated, they are building appropriate energy to fit in as a competitor not for the title though but among the possible spot they can reach, striving for the Europa or Conference league will take a lot of dedication from them, since they finished 11th for previous season i think they can adjust for a better position this time. The question now should be if they can beat Newcastle in their next match after this break, both teams are doing well so we expect a tough game during their fixture.

[beerlover]

If it wasn't for Onana's great performance with 4 clean sheets so far, I can't imagine how much worse their condition would be. Maybe they would have even been in the relegation zone now.

where else do you think this kind of performance would lead them to at the end?? Manchester United is in the 14th position on the league table and that's some record to brag about?? I don't know why the administrators haven't resolved in sacking this man and showing him to his room... Even if I survived a serious comma, just to hear that Bournemouth is ahead of united in the league table, I'll sniff in disgust!
The man is just too relaxed and as the day goes by, things are getting much worse for them.

To be fair Bruno ahs been the only standing player that's been around for a long time, I can remember him being the only player from the post-SAF era that played decently, and sometimes he tries very hard when he has the confidence in his teammates and thinks they can do something, but sometimes he sees that it is for all nothing and he gives up and plays angry and gets very terrible decision making process.

In the end, I believe they are going to see this getting worse and worse, but I think we need to reconsider this as something that will not help them out for the short term. The team isn't as bad as the results they are getting, on the paper they should have been better, and this makes me think the only possible outcome for this is Erik Ten Hag, this is why everyone is so hard on the coach, because if there weren't really any good players we would understand but look at what Emery is doing with Villa and look at what he is doing with United, the difference is clear.

[KTChampions]

As much as you play for Manchester United, it's mandatory to defend the club. Today, most Manchester United players are not passionate about the club no more. Oh please, all thanks to Johnny Evans and the rest of the defenders, they complement themselves very well. At the end of the day, Johnny Evans was man of the match. There's nothing about strategy, it's just rotation honestly. I hate the way the ex players of Manchester United and sky sports target non british players and managers. This is not a good way to support the club honestly. Maybe Erik Ten Hag should drop Bruno Fernandez in my opinion next week.

Hey! I remember last season you defended Ten Hag and argued that he was a good, suitable manager for United. Judging by your message, you haven't changed your mind?
I wonder when you will start blaming him specifically? I understand that bad results are always a complex problem, but is Ten Hag really not guilty of anything again?