⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Amphenomenon]

I really don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag on the team, I don't find any logical reasons, however, those who defend Ten Hag, I don't know why they do it, I understand his family and some of his friends, but the rest who are MU fans should do their part to ensure that MU wins and has good results. At this stage in life, a team should not be the victim of a coach who is in 13th place and says that they are the best team that has improved the most in the PL , that is something that doesn't make sense, I still don't understand what they are defending him for.

The current management are either blinded by the two trophies Ten Hag has won or are just scared of getting a new coach, since they know that will cost them more, from the fact that some these players will be nothing to no use to the coach whereas Ten Hag requested for the likes of them.

Manchester United fans where ones happy especially last season when they won the FA Cup but they all failed to see that there haven't been much growth in their performance in the Epl and Uefa fixtures. This seems to be like the worst Manchester United coach performance in Uefa matches.
Though I think some fans still shows their support of him still remaining coach, that rather the players ought to be blame, seems like they are tired of changing coaches and nothing has relatively changed with same players.

[ILuckyGuyI]

I started to feel like Manchester City will get away with this case related to 100+ breaches.    Because I have seen some things related to their already starting to win something against the PL.

A thing I have heard about commercial deals among the PL clubs. I mean if Manchester City is not at guilt about those breaches then okay. Of course I would love to see the law working for the rightful side. Anyway, we'll see.

If they have really done it then I can't even imagine how big punishment they will get. Some people say it might even cause them to lose many of their PL titles until now.

[Issa56]

I admit that Ten Hag has not given a positive impact in the last 3 seasons but sometimes a coach really needs time to be able to improve the team's performance and bring Man United to a higher level.

Ten Hag's first season was not really a bad one for him, because Manchester United were able to qualify for the Champions League that season, but after the season in which he joined, Manchester United's performance has been so poor, and their performance is getting worse. I don’t really understand what you mean by he should be given more time, because I know Ten Hag has been given enough time, but there is no improvement in Manchester United's performance.
 
Ten Hag was given money to sign some players during the last transfer window, but I just feel like Ten Hag doesn’t just know the players he wants, he doesn’t have confidence in his signing because he doesn’t even give most of the players he signed the opportunity to play well in matches. He signed players, but I just feel like he doesn’t even know the players that he needs.

If it is still maintained, there must be something that we cannot know behind all these problems. What is certain is that we just have to see until January.

From the way things are going, I just have the feeling that Manchester United management is going to keep Ten Hag because they are not even saying anything about his replacement. Let’s just keep on watching and see what the management will do.

[Raflesia]

Of course this is not an improvement although in the end this result still seems better than not getting any points at all but it is definitely not an improvement as they are still the same.

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
and indeed if the standard is like this, it will be difficult for Man United to really be able to advance and develop again. They need more than just that, more than that. Or they will just be at that level, maybe even much worse.

It's not too strange to see some statements from club management as they always give Ten Hag more time no matter how bad the results are

It's just that with the pressure on and Ten Hag still being given more time then as you say that in the end Mancehster United will not be able to develop further so let alone approaching their golden era in the last decade, at the moment they even look very bad because they are forced to become an ordinary club especially when in a position in the standings.
But when the decision is made, although there will certainly be a lot of people who are not too satisfied with the decision, Ten Hag will still be at Mancehster United as coach and we just have to continue to see how they always struggle every season.

[baeva]

I admit that Ten Hag has not given a positive impact in the last 3 seasons but sometimes a coach really needs time to be able to improve the team's performance and bring Man United to a higher level.

Ten Hag's first season was not really a bad one for him, because Manchester United were able to qualify for the Champions League that season, but after the season in which he joined, Manchester United's performance has been so poor, and their performance is getting worse. I don’t really understand what you mean by he should be given more time, because I know Ten Hag has been given enough time, but there is no improvement in Manchester United's performance.
 
Ten Hag was given money to sign some players during the last transfer window, but I just feel like Ten Hag doesn’t just know the players he wants, he doesn’t have confidence in his signing because he doesn’t even give most of the players he signed the opportunity to play well in matches. He signed players, but I just feel like he doesn’t even know the players that he needs.

He's even signed a few players he's worked with before, but apparently at MU he still can't work with them because I don't see most of them on the pitch. I don't know who started the rumours that he might be sacked after the Aston Villa match, but he is very confident that he won't be sacked, I mean he literally knows it. Sooner or later it will lead to MU hanging around in the second half of the standings. That hasn't happened so far because somehow MU has top class players who can win sometimes, even despite Ten Hag's delusional leadership

[TelolettOm]

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
..........

Until Eric Ten Hag over confidence is been brought to an abrupt end, he will never stop having that big hope on himself that he’s going to do better and make the team great. He keeps repeating the same thing and the management are over looking everything and still giving him the mandate to carry on the affairs of the team.

Bad to see this again.
In fact, Man United has several players who actually have good skills. but were not able to be stimulated by ten Hag and only became something really ridiculous. As we see several ex-United players who are in fact able to be freer and their performance has increased after being taken by other clubs. names like: Greenwood, Sancho, Fred, and several others too.

Aside from the Premier League,
now, Haaland, again and again, make his history.


Source: History for Erling Haaland

[uchegod-21]

And the problem is that again and again this makes ten Hag more confident in being at Man United even with his achievements like that.
..........

Until Eric Ten Hag over confidence is been brought to an abrupt end, he will never stop having that big hope on himself that he’s going to do better and make the team great. He keeps repeating the same thing and the management are over looking everything and still giving him the mandate to carry on the affairs of the team.

Bad to see this again.
In fact, Man United has several players who actually have good skills. but were not able to be stimulated by ten Hag and only became something really ridiculous. As we see several ex-United players who are in fact able to be freer and their performance has increased after being taken by other clubs. names like: Greenwood, Sancho, Fred, and several others too.

Aside from the Premier League,
now, Haaland, again and again, make his history.

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

[blue Snow]

Maybe the official compared with another club which have the same problem with coach. Yes, I agree to management big club like MU is not instant, the coach need much time to managed team to be solid. If they fired ten haq today, and recruit new coach that make teams will start again from the beginning and the possibility a new coach will make a new mistake then the official will repeat again to fired a new coach and recruit a new coach again, so on. Everyone knows finding a good coach is hard nowadays because they already have jobs and feel at home at their club, I think the official was make the right decision to extend it, but ten hag don't be fooled being noticed, because he have hard work and must make the team should be better from today.

How much time does Ten Hag needs to bring the club performance to solid when he has spent more than two years in the club as a head coach. I think that there is a lot going on in Manchester United that we don't know with Ten Hag and the management, if not why not get his ass kicked after lots of poor performance. Maybe the management is still having big hope on Ten Hag that will will bring home another trophy this again, so that Ten Hag can reassess himself and conclude with 3 years, 3 trophies to intimidate the fans and management in order for contract extension  . But I guess that will not happen.

I don't know, maybe 10 years? 
Maybe The official still considering him because has presented 2 trophies for MU Carabao (2022/2023) dan FA cup (2023/2024). Ten Hag always said his achievement when pressed by reporters. He always denied that coaching a big team like MU was not easy. so it takes more time to make the team more solid. And, I think the official has been affected his rebuttal, yes we know how a coach like Jose Mourinho always said his achievements when got pressure by reporter, and Ten hag do the same thing like his senior, but I think he could be fired on the next year if always got a bad result. he couldn't deny it anymore this time.

[TastyChillySauce00]

I started to feel like Manchester City will get away with this case related to 100+ breaches.    Because I have seen some things related to their already starting to win something against the PL.

A thing I have heard about commercial deals among the PL clubs. I mean if Manchester City is not at guilt about those breaches then okay. Of course I would love to see the law working for the rightful side. Anyway, we'll see.

If they have really done it then I can't even imagine how big punishment they will get. Some people say it might even cause them to lose many of their PL titles until now.

It's such a classic narrative. It's pretty much City winning against the league like in the picture. It'll be the same as when we beat PL in a legal challenge over the inflated sponsor deals linked to us. The scenario is pretty much the same as it.

And i think some clubs are just getting upset 'cause they haven't an owner to throw money at a problem. I can only imagine if we beat the 115, win the league again. It's gonna be very painful to the haters.  

[tusandii]

Maybe the official compared with another club which have the same problem with coach. Yes, I agree to management big club like MU is not instant, the coach need much time to managed team to be solid. If they fired ten haq today, and recruit new coach that make teams will start again from the beginning and the possibility a new coach will make a new mistake then the official will repeat again to fired a new coach and recruit a new coach again, so on. Everyone knows finding a good coach is hard nowadays because they already have jobs and feel at home at their club, I think the official was make the right decision to extend it, but ten hag don't be fooled being noticed, because he have hard work and must make the team should be better from today.

How much time does Ten Hag needs to bring the club performance to solid when he has spent more than two years in the club as a head coach. I think that there is a lot going on in Manchester United that we don't know with Ten Hag and the management, if not why not get his ass kicked after lots of poor performance. Maybe the management is still having big hope on Ten Hag that will will bring home another trophy this again, so that Ten Hag can reassess himself and conclude with 3 years, 3 trophies to intimidate the fans and management in order for contract extension  . But I guess that will not happen.

I don't know, maybe 10 years? 
Maybe The official still considering him because has presented 2 trophies for MU Carabao (2022/2023) dan FA cup (2023/2024). Ten Hag always said his achievement when pressed by reporters. He always denied that coaching a big team like MU was not easy. so it takes more time to make the team more solid. And, I think the official has been affected his rebuttal, yes we know how a coach like Jose Mourinho always said his achievements when got pressure by reporter, and Ten hag do the same thing like his senior, but I think he could be fired on the next year if always got a bad result. he couldn't deny it anymore this time.

10 years waiting for Manchester United's decline and entering the relegation zone ?
The longer the time spent if every season always experiences decline means that the coach is not the right manager for the club if the coach needs time, every season should experience improvement not getting worse while what is happening to Man United right now is that they are increasingly uncontrollable even though they have spent a lot of money to recruit many players needed by the coach. Indeed, Erik Ten Hag always gives trophies every season and maybe that's what makes management still believe in him but good performances in the Premier League are also very important for what to win the Carabao trophy and FA Cup if as an elite club he does not play in the Champions League and does not finish in the top 5 in the Premier League?

[Oluwa-btc]

I really don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag on the team, I don't find any logical reasons, however, those who defend Ten Hag, I don't know why they do it, I understand his family and some of his friends, but the rest who are MU fans should do their part to ensure that MU wins and has good results. At this stage in life, a team should not be the victim of a coach who is in 13th place and says that they are the best team that has improved the most in the PL , that is something that doesn't make sense, I still don't understand what they are defending him for.

Things might have gone left, but then, Erik Ten Hag is not a bad a bad manager. Personally, I do because of what he did for Manchester United during his first season, do you remember that season? Manchester United just need things to click ffs! You're to back the manager until the last day, I mean the day he'll be sacked. And if he'll be sacked, I'm glad to say that I backed him up with my full chest until the last day. Y'all can cry all you want, go see Mikel Arteta's third season for Arsenal and how much loses he also had at some points during that season. Maybe they should sack Erik Ten Hag so they know what they're missing. Hate it or love it, he has won two trophies and involved in three finals. Something no one has done since Sir Alex Ferguson.

[mammusu]

I admit that Ten Hag has not given a positive impact in the last 3 seasons but sometimes a coach really needs time to be able to improve the team's performance and bring Man United to a higher level.

Ten Hag's first season was not really a bad one for him, because Manchester United were able to qualify for the Champions League that season, but after the season in which he joined, Manchester United's performance has been so poor, and their performance is getting worse. I don’t really understand what you mean by he should be given more time, because I know Ten Hag has been given enough time, but there is no improvement in Manchester United's performance.
 
Ten Hag was given money to sign some players during the last transfer window, but I just feel like Ten Hag doesn’t just know the players he wants, he doesn’t have confidence in his signing because he doesn’t even give most of the players he signed the opportunity to play well in matches. He signed players, but I just feel like he doesn’t even know the players that he needs.

He's even signed a few players he's worked with before, but apparently at MU he still can't work with them because I don't see most of them on the pitch. I don't know who started the rumours that he might be sacked after the Aston Villa match, but he is very confident that he won't be sacked, I mean he literally knows it. Sooner or later it will lead to MU hanging around in the second half of the standings. That hasn't happened so far because somehow MU has top class players who can win sometimes, even despite Ten Hag's delusional leadership

Manchester United performance has not shown any good development under ten hag  coaching and when even they get negative results in the European league in a row it should be considered for ten hag's dismissal, but the reality is that at the moment Ineos and ten hag still agree to continue their cooperation in bringing Manchester United further down until the end of the season later .
Previously, there were many rumors that Ten Hag position would be very influential from the result of the match against Aston Villa, but we can see that in the end, the management still supports him as a coach and I don't know what their reasons???
At this time, the management should be aware that they has met all ten hag demands in building a team by signing many good players, but when the results obtained are not in accordance with the expected expectations, shouldn't kicking ten hag out from old trafford now be one of the solutions?

[Rampagoe004]

I really don't see any reason to keep Ten Hag on the team, I don't find any logical reasons, however, those who defend Ten Hag, I don't know why they do it, I understand his family and some of his friends, but the rest who are MU fans should do their part to ensure that MU wins and has good results. At this stage in life, a team should not be the victim of a coach who is in 13th place and says that they are the best team that has improved the most in the PL , that is something that doesn't make sense, I still don't understand what they are defending him for.

Things might have gone left, but then, Erik Ten Hag is not a bad a bad manager. Personally, I do because of what he did for Manchester United during his first season, do you remember that season? Manchester United just need things to click ffs! You're to back the manager until the last day, I mean the day he'll be sacked. And if he'll be sacked, I'm glad to say that I backed him up with my full chest until the last day. Y'all can cry all you want, go see Mikel Arteta's third season for Arsenal and how much loses he also had at some points during that season. Maybe they should sack Erik Ten Hag so they know what they're missing. Hate it or love it, he has won two trophies and involved in three finals. Something no one has done since Sir Alex Ferguson.

I think Erik Ten Hag is one of the best managers Manchester United have found since Sir Alex Ferguson was gone. I still remember what Erik Ten Hag did in his first season with great difficulty, a team that was in a slump and depressed with defeats could be rebuilt as it has shown Erik Ten Hag to be the right person for the team.

Maybe it's not just a manager who needs to be corrected, there are many things that the team currently needs, the team with the big name Manchester United is in a state of chaos in all aspects.

[Plaguedeath]

Maybe they should sack Erik Ten Hag so they know what they're missing. Hate it or love it, he has won two trophies and involved in three finals. Something no one has done since Sir Alex Ferguson.

Wrong, Mourinho did it, he won 3 trophies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._managers

I think Erik Ten Hag is one of the best managers Manchester United have found since Sir Alex Ferguson was gone. I still remember what Erik Ten Hag did in his first season with great difficulty, a team that was in a slump and depressed with defeats could be rebuilt as it has shown Erik Ten Hag to be the right person for the team.

Maybe it's not just a manager who needs to be corrected, there are many things that the team currently needs, the team with the big name Manchester United is in a state of chaos in all aspects.

Ten Hag is a combination of bad and luck at the same time.

He's bad because he destroyed Manchester United and other players career, even he has sign the players that he likes, but Manchester United is weaker than in the past. He's lucky because Manchester United perform good in some match, which make he won 2 trophies.

[mamesso]

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

Ten Hag very optimistic attitude about remaining Manchester United manager raises big questions, especially after the board of directors met for 6 hours and no decision was made that could burden Ten Hag. It is only natural that negative assumptions arise such as a special relationship or secret agreement between him and the management because his position seems untouchable even though Manchester United performance is getting worse. It is very interesting to follow Ten Hag's development at Manchester United, how strong the management is in facing pressure from external parties such as fans who continue to push for the dismissal of the coach who is considered incompetent in handling the club.

[len01]

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

Ten Hag very optimistic attitude about remaining Manchester United manager raises big questions, especially after the board of directors met for 6 hours and no decision was made that could burden Ten Hag. It is only natural that negative assumptions arise such as a special relationship or secret agreement between him and the management because his position seems untouchable even though Manchester United performance is getting worse. It is very interesting to follow Ten Hag's development at Manchester United, how strong the management is in facing pressure from external parties such as fans who continue to push for the dismissal of the coach who is considered incompetent in handling the club.

Not sure what happened behind it all but what is certain is that we can only think positively if the possibility of Man United management still believes that Ten Hag can provide positive changes at the end of this season. So Ten Hag will remain and without worrying about being fired. And this season seems like it will be the last season for Ten Hag to serve as Man United coach. But if in the coming season Ten Hag is still maintained, maybe I should stop betting on Man United which will be difficult to predict with inconsistent results.

[giorgione]

Who knows if Erik Ten Hang has a secret deal with Manchester United management. I say this because of the audacity he uses to approach the media after every poor performance he gives out weekly. He is so subjective and threats the Manchester United matter as if it is his personal affair or like he owes 35% share in the coy. I will be looking up to the day he will be sacked. I will want to know his statement that day.

Ten Hag very optimistic attitude about remaining Manchester United manager raises big questions, especially after the board of directors met for 6 hours and no decision was made that could burden Ten Hag. It is only natural that negative assumptions arise such as a special relationship or secret agreement between him and the management because his position seems untouchable even though Manchester United performance is getting worse. It is very interesting to follow Ten Hag's development at Manchester United, how strong the management is in facing pressure from external parties such as fans who continue to push for the dismissal of the coach who is considered incompetent in handling the club.

Not sure what happened behind it all but what is certain is that we can only think positively if the possibility of Man United management still believes that Ten Hag can provide positive changes at the end of this season. So Ten Hag will remain and without worrying about being fired. And this season seems like it will be the last season for Ten Hag to serve as Man United coach. But if in the coming season Ten Hag is still maintained, maybe I should stop betting on Man United which will be difficult to predict with inconsistent results.

in my opinion it is very likely that Ten Hag will be kicked out before Christmas, it's a normal thing, Manchester United is now in ruins, I don't like how he plays and I hope there is a crucial change in the management of the team, he's absolutely a manager to change immediately and I think they realized it

[Strongkored]

in my opinion it is very likely that Ten Hag will be kicked out before Christmas, it's a normal thing, Manchester United is now in ruins, I don't like how he plays and I hope there is a crucial change in the management of the team, he's absolutely a manager to change immediately and I think they realized it

Firing Ten Haag is easy, but finding the right person to replace him is difficult.
Many good managers but not necessarily can succeed at this club, proven after Sir Alex Man United became a team that had difficulty achieving, they won several trophies but they were not favorites to be a title challenger.
The problems at Man United are becoming more complex, I am sure it will take time to fix this team.

[Oluwa-btc]

Wrong, Mourinho did it, he won 3 trophies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._managers

Man! Have you got comprehension issues with what's said? Jose Mourinho did three finals in two seasons? And if you was to mention trophies won, you'd mention that community shield? That's crazy man truthfully. I don't see that as a trophy for real. Jose Mourinho never did what Erik Ten Hag did and lastly, Jose Mourinho's tactics for Manchester United was hell boring, outdated defensive strategy for Manchester United. Don't act like his style of players wasn't itching to the normal eye. Ole Gunner Solskjaer also did play good football but he was tactically inept. The way he plays is no different from how Gareth Southgate plays, sit back and then hit your opponents with counter attacks. Buzz-kill.

[Baki202]

I think Erik Ten Hag is one of the best managers Manchester United have found since Sir Alex Ferguson was gone. I still remember what Erik Ten Hag did in his first season with great difficulty, a team that was in a slump and depressed with defeats could be rebuilt as it has shown Erik Ten Hag to be the right person for the team.

Maybe it's not just a manager who needs to be corrected, there are many things that the team currently needs, the team with the big name Manchester United is in a state of chaos in all aspects.

when they start working as a new coach they will always do everything right and what you said about ten is true but for a very short while everything has collapsed and then did not reign too along the way a lot of people expected and coming from a club like Manchester United is what is shocking to people because things have now turned upside down for Manchester United, it either they are losing or they losing. ten had his chance and he has blown it already there is nothing for him again because even the fans of Manchester United don't want him any longer because of the lack of results they are getting from him and look at other clubs are advancing and Manchester united is still very behind because they were kind of active during the transfer window and nothing changed so he just goes since there is no improvement.