Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[ethereumhunter]

We know what our boundaries are like and even though we sometimes cross those boundaries but in this case it depends on the person doing it because for me personally I don't deny that I sometimes cross my limits but in this case I don't always feel it happens so often because I realize if it is as frequent as it is we ourselves will be in trouble.
But in this case, it's back to professional gamblers. Instead of being told like that because the fact is not, I might as well say I am an addict because it is said like that, I don't really have a problem for now because basically we ourselves are the ones who limit whether we are addicts or not in gambling as long as we don't cross those boundaries too often and always remember that we have a budget in a day or a week for gambling I think it will not be a problem. at least this is for myself.

That is if we are truly aware of the boundaries we make. But the truth is many of us still cross that line and instead decide to gamble and say that this is the last time we gamble and we won't be back for a few more days. I also often cross my limits in gambling, but that doesn't make me regret it too much; I just try to live it. But other days, I try to limit and not break it.

Meanwhile, professional gamblers can really control themselves well and that's different from us. Professional gamblers know how to control themselves to avoid crossing their limits. Maybe they have trained a lot so that they are already at a stage above us so they can be wiser with themselves.

[Negotiation]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

[Fesatmas]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

Honestly, I didn't think and never thought that there were really people who were successful at gambling. If they are gamblers then I don't think they will stand a chance of being successful in it. Gambling was created only as a place to have fun when someone is feeling something that makes them feel stressed or bored. If someone succeeds in getting success in gambling then in my opinion that person is a bookie in gambling itself, the logic is how can you be successful if you only rely on luck because you will only win if luck comes. So I think stop assuming that someone can get success in gambling, because that will only torture someone psychologically when gambling. Indirectly, this statement will pressure a person's personality when they are gambling so that they always expect a win without them realizing that they have experienced so many losses.

[GigaBit]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

A successful gambler is definitely different from other ordinary gamblers. Successful gamblers will have certain characteristics that are not seen in ordinary gamblers. I think that those who gamble with discipline and rules, those gamblers who can take risks normally, who are not desperate to recover lost money. Those who will constantly try to gain knowledge and try to learn how they can overcome the mistakes can be referred to as successful gamblers. But winning big does not mean success. Although everyone's goals are the same, those who manage gambling with these factors in mind can definitely be considered successful gamblers in the long run.

[nullama]

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Honestly, I didn't think and never thought that there were really people who were successful at gambling. If they are gamblers then I don't think they will stand a chance of being successful in it. Gambling was created only as a place to have fun when someone is feeling something that makes them feel stressed or bored. If someone succeeds in getting success in gambling then in my opinion that person is a bookie in gambling itself, the logic is how can you be successful if you only rely on luck because you will only win if luck comes. So I think stop assuming that someone can get success in gambling, because that will only torture someone psychologically when gambling. Indirectly, this statement will pressure a person's personality when they are gambling so that they always expect a win without them realizing that they have experienced so many losses.

There has been people who have won against the casinos, but it's rare and they are very lucky indeed.

For example, David Walsh, a professional gambler from Australia, made a lot of money in casinos and opened an art gallery, MONA.

[Sterbens]

I personally think that even successful gamblers are gambling addicts.

I say that because these successful gamblers cannot leave gambling and it needs to be underlined that what are called addicts are those who have an addiction and cannot leave it. The only difference is that ordinary addicts only play to chase victory regardless of losses and strategies, they only follow their passions which ultimately make them miserable.
Meanwhile, these successful gamblers are able to control their addiction to gambling, are able to control themselves and their emotions. They realized that they couldn't give up gambling, so these successful gamblers kept thinking about strategies for winning. They always do the calculations before playing gambling so they can minimize the occurrence of risks.

Yes, they are successful in self-control, not successful in gambling. I initially misunderstood what you were saying, but as I understand it more I get the point. No, what I meant when I misunderstood was when you said successful gamblers, because for me there are no successful gamblers, except those who become bookies for example.
But you added an explanation where I finally understood what you were saying about successful gamblers.
You are right, when someone realizes that it will be difficult for them to get away from gambling, then they should be able to minimize the risk.

[Sakanwa]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

I totally disagree with this one,a successful gambler is successful because he loves what he is doing,he has passion for what he is doing,therefore,be goes extra mile in achieving success.There is no successfull business man who doesn't love what he is doing and becomes successful,and in other to be successful in one thing,you must love that thing to the extent that you will become addicted to it,so being successful requires loving something and getting addicted to that thing as well,and  in the cause of the addiction,they gain experience in the field after too much loosing,and also know the way in which they can go about it without losing much.When they've known this,it is when success comes in,they start winning big,and turning into experts.

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I totally disagree with this one,a successful gambler is successful because he loves what he is doing,he has passion for what he is doing,therefore,be goes extra mile in achieving success.There is no successfull business man who doesn't love what he is doing and becomes successful,and in other to be successful in one thing,you must love that thing to the extent that you will become addicted to it,so being successful requires loving something and getting addicted to that thing as well,and  in the cause of the addiction,they gain experience in the field after too much loosing,and also know the way in which they can go about it without losing much.When they've known this,it is when success comes in,they start winning big,and turning into experts.

I haven't seen any gambler being called a successful gambler unless it is a pro gambler. That does not mean every pro gambler is successful as only a handful have made big in gambling. The love for gambling is directly proportional to addiction to gambling. There is nothing like love it is always addiction to make big out of gambling. That often results in big losses and the urge to get back the money lost. What I said to you is true in most cases and one lucky would have made it big and then losing again all of it. Those are the simple traits of a gambling addict. 

[Yamifoud]

I totally disagree with this one,a successful gambler is successful because he loves what he is doing,he has passion for what he is doing,therefore,be goes extra mile in achieving success.There is no successfull business man who doesn't love what he is doing and becomes successful,and in other to be successful in one thing,you must love that thing to the extent that you will become addicted to it,so being successful requires loving something and getting addicted to that thing as well,and  in the cause of the addiction,they gain experience in the field after too much loosing,and also know the way in which they can go about it without losing much.When they've known this,it is when success comes in,they start winning big,and turning into experts.

I haven't seen any gambler being called a successful gambler unless it is a pro gambler. That does not mean every pro gambler is successful as only a handful have made big in gambling. The love for gambling is directly proportional to addiction to gambling. There is nothing like love it is always addiction to make big out of gambling. That often results in big losses and the urge to get back the money lost. What I said to you is true in most cases and one lucky would have made it big and then losing again all of it. Those are the simple traits of a gambling addict. 

Perhaps, there is no known successful gambler that I've ever known. Some beat the casino through cheating but when it comes to the usual thing we do and religiously gamble, none have shown success. In gambling, we might win today and in this hour because we are too lucky but we can possibly lose after that. Which is my gambling too much won't give us money but losses. If we got into gambling, we must be aware that we possibly lose more rather than win more. And much more if we got addicted to it as the more lose control of our gambling habits.

[Blitzboy]

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Honestly, I didn't think and never thought that there were really people who were successful at gambling. If they are gamblers then I don't think they will stand a chance of being successful in it. Gambling was created only as a place to have fun when someone is feeling something that makes them feel stressed or bored. If someone succeeds in getting success in gambling then in my opinion that person is a bookie in gambling itself, the logic is how can you be successful if you only rely on luck because you will only win if luck comes. So I think stop assuming that someone can get success in gambling, because that will only torture someone psychologically when gambling. Indirectly, this statement will pressure a person's personality when they are gambling so that they always expect a win without them realizing that they have experienced so many losses.

Betting was never meant to be a means of generating income. Whether you call it a system or a game, the house will always win. If it were simple to turn a profit, wouldn't everyone already be a multimillionaire? That is not the how it operates, though. It's a fairytale sold by the casinos and shown in Hollywood that you can win big at the slots. Try not to believe it. The ostentatiousness is only a show. It's a machine underneath, designed to make money off of our aspirations. Those are some pretty sage comments there, mate. In other words, let's not get our hopes up too high. Because, let's face it, nobody enjoys the bitter aftertaste of disillusionment.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

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Honestly, I didn't think and never thought that there were really people who were successful at gambling. If they are gamblers then I don't think they will stand a chance of being successful in it. Gambling was created only as a place to have fun when someone is feeling something that makes them feel stressed or bored. If someone succeeds in getting success in gambling then in my opinion that person is a bookie in gambling itself, the logic is how can you be successful if you only rely on luck because you will only win if luck comes. So I think stop assuming that someone can get success in gambling, because that will only torture someone psychologically when gambling. Indirectly, this statement will pressure a person's personality when they are gambling so that they always expect a win without them realizing that they have experienced so many losses.

Betting was never meant to be a means of generating income. Whether you call it a system or a game, the house will always win. If it were simple to turn a profit, wouldn't everyone already be a multimillionaire? That is not the how it operates, though. It's a fairytale sold by the casinos and shown in Hollywood that you can win big at the slots. Try not to believe it. The ostentatiousness is only a show. It's a machine underneath, designed to make money off of our aspirations. Those are some pretty sage comments there, mate. In other words, let's not get our hopes up too high. Because, let's face it, nobody enjoys the bitter aftertaste of disillusionment.

Very well articulated comment friend, and I buy in to all you have said, we can not dispute the fact that many gamblers, most especially those that are still pretty new to the gambling industry, are brainwashed to believe that its that easy to become a millionaire through gambling from nothing, though it's not to say that it's absolutely not possible, it happens, yeah, It does, but it's on rare occasions and involves a very rare kind of luck..

The sooner we get our minds off such happening to us in our lifetime, the happier we will be even as gamblers, high expectations in gambling can lead to over betting/gambling, depression and disappointments, when after trying so hard, it still does not seem like our expectations will ever be fulfilled.

[Juse14]

I personally think that even successful gamblers are gambling addicts.

I say that because these successful gamblers cannot leave gambling and it needs to be underlined that what are called addicts are those who have an addiction and cannot leave it. The only difference is that ordinary addicts only play to chase victory regardless of losses and strategies, they only follow their passions which ultimately make them miserable.
Meanwhile, these successful gamblers are able to control their addiction to gambling, are able to control themselves and their emotions. They realized that they couldn't give up gambling, so these successful gamblers kept thinking about strategies for winning. They always do the calculations before playing gambling so they can minimize the occurrence of risks.

Yes, they are successful in self-control, not successful in gambling. I initially misunderstood what you were saying, but as I understand it more I get the point. No, what I meant when I misunderstood was when you said successful gamblers, because for me there are no successful gamblers, except those who become bookies for example.
But you added an explanation where I finally understood what you were saying about successful gamblers.
You are right, when someone realizes that it will be difficult for them to get away from gambling, then they should be able to minimize the risk.

I'm grateful because you understand what I mean and I thank you for clarifying what I mean in the post.

In essence, when we are unable to leave the activity (gambling). So immediately think about how you can control your gambling activities. Don't get too carried away with gambling and deepen the losses caused by gambling activities.

And I hope that those of you who have already entered the world of gambling can immediately realize this and be able to immediately control your gambling activities.

[Fortify]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I would suggest that people who are successful gamblers, over a long and consistent time period, have mastered a trade that is akin to having a profitable career. People who have made a profit on their betting in a day or in a week might be fluke, however those who make money over a year or a decade have usually found an edge - generally over other players instead of the house. It's very rare you'll find anyone outside of skill based games like poker who are able to do these things and I'm not sure it's fair to call them addicts if they are simply hyper successful after mastering a game. Either way, if they're making bank I don't think they care what label you give them

[nullama]

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Betting was never meant to be a means of generating income. Whether you call it a system or a game, the house will always win. If it were simple to turn a profit, wouldn't everyone already be a multimillionaire? That is not the how it operates, though. It's a fairytale sold by the casinos and shown in Hollywood that you can win big at the slots. Try not to believe it. The ostentatiousness is only a show. It's a machine underneath, designed to make money off of our aspirations. Those are some pretty sage comments there, mate. In other words, let's not get our hopes up too high. Because, let's face it, nobody enjoys the bitter aftertaste of disillusionment.

Spot on.

It's all really a show, entertainment. Luxury stuff, free drinks, laughs everywhere, the life of a high roller.

In the end, the casinos are the ones making the big bucks, and they bring people in with this idea.

It's similar to how the alcohol commercials are usually people having fun together at a nice location, while the reality is that they get the money from a guy sipping his vodka alone at home, depressed.

As long as you can gamble responsible, you should be able to enjoy it.

[wiss19]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

A successful gambler doesn't gamble for fun, obviously, because their primary focus is to gain money enough to sustain a month so that they don't need to do anything else, and it may doesn't happen all the time because even successful gamblers lose, but they generally gamble with discipline and they never chase their losses because they have experience and they know it is not going to do anything and they will lose even more if they try and recover the losses.

So a gambler that follows discipline can never get addicted to gambling, they can always control their mind and decide whether they want to gamble some day or not or what should their routine and schedule should be for gambling, so successful gamblers shouldn't be considered gambling addicts.

[maydna]

I would suggest that people who are successful gamblers, over a long and consistent time period, have mastered a trade that is akin to having a profitable career. People who have made a profit on their betting in a day or in a week might be fluke, however those who make money over a year or a decade have usually found an edge - generally over other players instead of the house. It's very rare you'll find anyone outside of skill based games like poker who are able to do these things and I'm not sure it's fair to call them addicts if they are simply hyper successful after mastering a game. Either way, if they're making bank I don't think they care what label you give them

Of course, a successful gambler has more abilities than the average gambler because they can manage themselves so they don't cross their limits. That is what distinguishes them from most gamblers so they can succeed in gambling games. They have more experience than other gamblers and also have abilities above other gamblers so that they can survive and even become successful gamblers. But those classified as successful gamblers will not call themselves successful gamblers because they do not like being called by that title. They prefer to be called casual gamblers and feel it is better to hide their skills so they are not arrogant.

[AicecreaME]

Of course, a successful gambler has more abilities than the average gambler because they can manage themselves so they don't cross their limits. That is what distinguishes them from most gamblers so they can succeed in gambling games. They have more experience than other gamblers and also have abilities above other gamblers so that they can survive and even become successful gamblers. But those classified as successful gamblers will not call themselves successful gamblers because they do not like being called by that title. They prefer to be called casual gamblers and feel it is better to hide their skills so they are not arrogant.

That's exactly the reason why they become successful in gambling. These gamblers already made a name and won a notable amount several times to the point it gave them the opportunity to establish the things they want to accomplish. I can't really label them as addicts because there's a lot difference from an addict who can't control his urges and continues to gamble excessively and impulsively to a person who is wise and great from doing his craft. Being a gambler requires skills and discipline, and most of the time, gambling addicts do not possess the latter.

I agree with you that most of these successful gamblers are humble enough to live a quiet life and not boast around because they don't have to, to begin with. They know it to themselves that they have accomplished enough and that's what matters to them, not what other people will say. And I think gamblers should exhibit more of this attitude to avoid conflicts and to avoid overthinking.

[qwertyup23]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

I think there is a thin line between an addict against a successful gambler.

A successful gambler, like a professional player, can be observed that he is doing what he is being offered to. Basically, it is his job to gamble and to play various card games in order to entertain himself and the viewers. In comparison, gambling addicts can be categorized into two (2), namely the addicts who do it for fun; and the ones who do it for money.

Though they may be seen as different, I sometimes find it confusing on distinguishing the two given the nature of gambling. Maybe these professional players are being paid by advertising agencies, etc. as another stream of income.

[Silberman]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

I think there is a thin line between an addict against a successful gambler.

A successful gambler, like a professional player, can be observed that he is doing what he is being offered to. Basically, it is his job to gamble and to play various card games in order to entertain himself and the viewers. In comparison, gambling addicts can be categorized into two (2), namely the addicts who do it for fun; and the ones who do it for money.

Though they may be seen as different, I sometimes find it confusing on distinguishing the two given the nature of gambling. Maybe these professional players are being paid by advertising agencies, etc. as another stream of income.

Which is why using money as a criteria to try to separate the addicted from those which are not addicted is not such a good idea, we simply need to take a look at their behaviors to see if they are showing signs of addiction, and someone which gambles all the time to the detriment of their health and personal relationships is clearly showing signs they are addicted to gambling, and regardless of the results they may be obtaining it is clear they have a problem which needs to be taken care before it is too late.

[Lordhermes]

Someone who is successful at gambling would have to be incredibly smart. I would think that a successful gambler is less likely to have addiction issues. Addicts are motivated purely by greed and emotion and will ignore all logic. To be a successful gambler you need to think rationally. If you become so obsessed with winning more and more money that it leads to an unhealthy addiction then it will be difficult to remain successful.

The addiction thing is so bad I also agree that successful gamblers are not seen as addicts. Their knowledge and skills are high, greed does not touch them that's why they are successful. A successful gambler needs a lot of hard work and dedication also the first rule of online gambling here is low expectations. No, it is not to say that successful gamblers are not guaranteed to win instead they don't always expect to win no matter how small so gamble for fun and avoid any pressure to win.

I think there is a thin line between an addict against a successful gambler.

A successful gambler, like a professional player, can be observed that he is doing what he is being offered to. Basically, it is his job to gamble and to play various card games in order to entertain himself and the viewers. In comparison, gambling addicts can be categorized into two (2), namely the addicts who do it for fun; and the ones who do it for money.

Though they may be seen as different, I sometimes find it confusing on distinguishing the two given the nature of gambling. Maybe these professional players are being paid by advertising agencies, etc. as another stream of income.

Which is why using money as a criteria to try to separate the addicted from those which are not addicted is not such a good idea, we simply need to take a look at their behaviors to see if they are showing signs of addiction, and someone which gambles all the time to the detriment of their health and personal relationships is clearly showing signs they are addicted to gambling, and regardless of the results they may be obtaining it is clear they have a problem which needs to be taken care before it is too late.

when you win always, no one will see u as an addicted gambler, because you're making money from it. Gamble is just a lucky play, if you're lucky oh win always. But once you always lose, the society will tag u failure and an addict.

Inspite of everything, we must all bet responsibly and know when to stop.