Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[TobeyHolo]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

[swogerino]

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Its a contradiction, well said really.   If the gambling is controlling the player then by default unless very lucky somehow the gambler will be paying for games and not gaining but paying out to others, other winners and the casino themselves.    Successful suggest someone who has mastered the path of luck and avoided the pullback of losses to regularly gain, that could be skill or I think some good money management could achiever this.
   In short, a successful gambler is just a rich person and thats probably what most would think of first.   A proper addict will win and in any case give it all back not knowing when to stop.

It's a bit ironic because a successful gambler will have to stop gambling at some point to actually be considered successful.

If they keep gambling, they will eventually lose all their money and their status of successful gambler.

But no ones wants to hear that, they just want to hear about this mythological creature that keeps winning against all the odds all the time. That is just fantasy.

There are no successful gamblers except those who do streaming service and I doubt they are successful too as they just keep playing until they lose everything and the ones who win a life changing jackpot.The problem is that people who win life changing jackpots can be counted with the fingers of one hand and even here,most of them have ended broke because of their poor mentality as we have discussed some time ago in another thread in gambling.

I agree with you that any person who gambles is destined to be in red in the long run as if there were true successful gamblers we would see fewer and fewer casinos popping up like mushrooms in the rain when in reality we see more and more of them opening up which for me has a meaning,it is a huge profitable business for the owners.

[Maslate]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

Unfortunately, that's only limited to our perspective because we know the real difference between the proper gamblers and addicted gamblers, but for the people that don't know what's the difference, they only see gamblers and addicts as one and nothing more. And the thing is, we cannot do something to change that kind of perspective as even if we try and explain ourselves, it will just be futile and most probably, a waste of time.

[maydna]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

That's true because a professional can take care of himself while playing gambling and will not be affected by anything in the casino. They usually will not be tempted by the gambling game and remain calm even though they may experience loss and will not be provoked by their emotions to increase their bets because they know that it will only make them lose more. They can also decide to stop immediately, especially if they have lost in a row and will not try to play one more round. For them, it is better to stop and rest than continue playing gambling because it is not good for their health. They can also control themselves so they don't get addicted to gambling after playing for a while because they have years of experience that can keep them from exceeding their set limits.

[Twentyonepaylots]

That's true because a professional can take care of himself while playing gambling and will not be affected by anything in the casino. They usually will not be tempted by the gambling game and remain calm even though they may experience loss and will not be provoked by their emotions to increase their bets because they know that it will only make them lose more. They can also decide to stop immediately, especially if they have lost in a row and will not try to play one more round. For them, it is better to stop and rest than continue playing gambling because it is not good for their health. They can also control themselves so they don't get addicted to gambling after playing for a while because they have years of experience that can keep them from exceeding their set limits.

Yeah, I agree there is definitely a distinction between successful gamblers and gambling addicts. They would not be successful and be wherever in their position when they possess characteristics of gambling addicts. Successful gamblers have the positive characteristics that separate them from average gamblers and gambling addicts. They are competent to carefully analyze the games well before betting, and they definitely have the "self-awareness" to assess themselves, work on their weaknesses, and use their strengths properly. In gambling, it will either pull you up or pull you down. And it is fascinating how these successful gamblers made it to the top.

This also made me curious to search about these successful gamblers, which I have observed mostly are bettors of horse racing, blackjack, baccarat, sports betting, and poker.

https://playtoday.co/blog/guides/richest-gamblers/

[CarnagexD]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

Unfortunately, that's only limited to our perspective because we know the real difference between the proper gamblers and addicted gamblers, but for the people that don't know what's the difference, they only see gamblers and addicts as one and nothing more. And the thing is, we cannot do something to change that kind of perspective as even if we try and explain ourselves, it will just be futile and most probably, a waste of time.

See yourself in a position that you want to be in the future. So if you are a struggling gambler who wants to seek and claim consistency and profitability in gambling, don't be ashamed of saying that you are a successful gambler even if you're not for the time being. Identity comes first and then your actions. Because in between the successful one and the addictive one, it's just their level of professionalism, their discipline to follow their budget, and their patience.

[nullama]

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See yourself in a position that you want to be in the future. So if you are a struggling gambler who wants to seek and claim consistency and profitability in gambling, don't be ashamed of saying that you are a successful gambler even if you're not for the time being. Identity comes first and then your actions. Because in between the successful one and the addictive one, it's just their level of professionalism, their discipline to follow their budget, and their patience.

That's a good idea.

Looking at yourself at possible futures, and then seeing what would it be like. Then, discard the bad outcomes, and carry on the plan required to go to the future that looked the best for you.

That's basically thinking really. You try to predict the future based on the present and current habits, and see where you will end up, and adjust accordingly.

You can either plan to go towards a goal, or plan to move away from something bad, or both.

[Awaklara]

See yourself in a position that you want to be in the future. So if you are a struggling gambler who wants to seek and claim consistency and profitability in gambling, don't be ashamed of saying that you are a successful gambler even if you're not for the time being. Identity comes first and then your actions. Because in between the successful one and the addictive one, it's just their level of professionalism, their discipline to follow their budget, and their patience.

everything can be done because of their experience in gambling. new gamblers will not be able to do it all. they will be in a position of addiction and want to continue playing even without control until a loss makes them realize that they want to gamble more responsibly.

That's true because a professional can take care of himself while playing gambling and will not be affected by anything in the casino. They usually will not be tempted by the gambling game and remain calm even though they may experience loss and will not be provoked by their emotions to increase their bets because they know that it will only make them lose more. They can also decide to stop immediately, especially if they have lost in a row and will not try to play one more round. For them, it is better to stop and rest than continue playing gambling because it is not good for their health. They can also control themselves so they don't get addicted to gambling after playing for a while because they have years of experience that can keep them from exceeding their set limits.

such control could only be exercised by someone with experience. and it requires lots of bets so that gamblers can calmly control their emotions.
I have to admit it's not easy, because most gamblers who get addicted there are worse, some are better.

[tusandii]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

Do you believe that successful gamblers can manage funds effectively and remain calm in every action?
Not all gamblers can do this, even a successful gambler, here I want to ask what kind of successful gambler do you mean?
Is it a gambling influencer or a gambler who manages to get lucky and win big so that they are said to be a successful gambler because no one can really have success as a gambler unless they are paid for every gamble that is done like an influencer.
First of all bullshit with the success of a gambler and what is clear is that a gambler must have a great chance of becoming an addict even though he is a gambler who has made quite a lot of wins but we also have to realize that of the many wins there is also a series of defeats that always makes him come into trouble. casino to recover the loss.

[TobeyHolo]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

Do you believe that successful gamblers can manage funds effectively and remain calm in every action?
Not all gamblers can do this, even a successful gambler, here I want to ask what kind of successful gambler do you mean?
Is it a gambling influencer or a gambler who manages to get lucky and win big so that they are said to be a successful gambler because no one can really have success as a gambler unless they are paid for every gamble that is done like an influencer.
First of all bullshit with the success of a gambler and what is clear is that a gambler must have a great chance of becoming an addict even though he is a gambler who has made quite a lot of wins but we also have to realize that of the many wins there is also a series of defeats that always makes him come into trouble. casino to recover the loss.

In most influencer contracts I presume it works this way: The influencer is given a set amount of salary and a set amount of funds deposited into their account. They must turnover a certain amount of bets and whatever they win extra ontop they're free to keep post completion of turnover. That way these influencers are also invested in playing in the right strategies to preserve and lose the least amount to keep the stream integrity.

However what I said regarding a successful gambler is one that holds gambling as their only source of income. People have been trying to beat the casino for as long as casinos have existed. This ranges from many different forms of betting such as sports, poker, and table games. Poker and sports have real examples of people truly succeeding in their gambling careers and this has been evident for many years. However there are a small amount of people who play by different betting patterns on table games such as Baccarat, Blackjack & Roulette. There are intricacies that gamblers believe they have an edge in ie: counting cards, being able to see where the ball will drop on Roulette (The specific section roughly) and they'd bet on all the numbers that are in that quarter that they think that the ball will land in.

[MainIbem]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

How do we defined as addictive gambler?
Increasing their bets are not always seen as addictive gambler, to me an addictive gambler is someone who can't stay a day without gambling or not visiting the casino and gambling site. These sets of people don't even mind spending money given to them for another purposes, at this point whenever you noticed anyone acting strange and also taking their wives or husband's money you should be able to note that such person is an addicted gambler.

[len01]

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such control could only be exercised by someone with experience. and it requires lots of bets so that gamblers can calmly control their emotions.
I have to admit it's not easy, because most gamblers who get addicted there are worse, some are better.

gamblers who have a lot of experience and are still gambling until now they have better control and we can call them professional gamblers and for good or bad addiction it depends on each addict. i mean if the gambler is just entering the world of gambling it will make things worse but the old gambler will get better as i said first about the experienced gambler. because gambling addicts who have been gambling for a long time there are some who have recovered from their bad addiction and betting today is just for fun but for gambling addicts who have just entered gambling he still has great ambitions to win and win he thinks so any control will he ignore.

and whether its easy or difficult to control emotions depends on the state of mind of each gambler. if gamblers have a healthy mindset as we discussed in other threads I believe it will be easier to control emotions.

[mirakal]

Those who fall into gambling addiction, probably they weren’t successful gamblers because they fail to understand what’s the real purpose of gambling. Gambling is designed to entertain each user or player, and making money out from it is only a bonus. But if you end up wasting a lot of your time and money in gambling thinking that it could give you a reliable source of income, you are very wrong. You only fail on the trap of gambling, but you never hit the purpose of what is gambling all about.

[maydna]

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Yeah, I agree there is definitely a distinction between successful gamblers and gambling addicts. They would not be successful and be wherever in their position when they possess characteristics of gambling addicts. Successful gamblers have the positive characteristics that separate them from average gamblers and gambling addicts. They are competent to carefully analyze the games well before betting, and they definitely have the "self-awareness" to assess themselves, work on their weaknesses, and use their strengths properly. In gambling, it will either pull you up or pull you down. And it is fascinating how these successful gamblers made it to the top.

This also made me curious to search about these successful gamblers, which I have observed mostly are bettors of horse racing, blackjack, baccarat, sports betting, and poker.

https://playtoday.co/blog/guides/richest-gamblers/

And those successful gamblers are few in number because to become like them takes a lot of things that many people can't do. That is what distinguishes successful gamblers from gambling addicts. And we certainly do not want to become gambling addicts and would rather become successful gamblers if we know how. And if there are people who also want to become successful gamblers, they have to go through various things that must be prepared and done and go through the process step by step. That's what makes many people fail to become successful gamblers because they can't go through every stage needed to become a successful gambler.

Successful gamblers may be found in skill-based gambling games, like you said because they continue to hone their skills until they become successful gamblers. But we can't imagine what they did to reach the stage of becoming a successful gambler because the practice would be very difficult. They also definitely have better self-control than most gamblers.

[zuzie]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

With your opinion earlier, in my opinion it is not success as a gambling addict but rather leads to how addicts / gamblers play gambling properly and correctly. And I am of the opinion that a successful gambler is seen from the results of his game, he is always lucky or wins in gambling and makes a lot of money, while an addict is a person who likes to gamble and will not stop even so. the result is win or lose.

[Bitinity]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

Do you believe that successful gamblers can manage funds effectively and remain calm in every action?
Not all gamblers can do this, even a successful gambler, here I want to ask what kind of successful gambler do you mean?
Is it a gambling influencer or a gambler who manages to get lucky and win big so that they are said to be a successful gambler because no one can really have success as a gambler unless they are paid for every gamble that is done like an influencer.
First of all bullshit with the success of a gambler and what is clear is that a gambler must have a great chance of becoming an addict even though he is a gambler who has made quite a lot of wins but we also have to realize that of the many wins there is also a series of defeats that always makes him come into trouble. casino to recover the loss.

That is the most important thing to be cleared first, because we may have different understanding or different point of view about "successful". In general, successful is related to achievement or in other words it is about when someone reach the target of what have been planned in the beginning. In gambling, maybe the main purpose is to be rich so successful gamblers can be said as those who become rich from gambling. On the other side, some people may have different point of view. Others may think that successful in gambling is when they are not addicted to it, when they are able to manage the activities wisely, or when they can enjoy it without affecting other things negatively.  

[QueenVera]

Do you believe that successful gamblers can manage funds effectively and remain calm in every action?
Not all gamblers can do this, even a successful gambler, here I want to ask what kind of successful gambler do you mean?
Is it a gambling influencer or a gambler who manages to get lucky and win big so that they are said to be a successful gambler because no one can really have success as a gambler unless they are paid for every gamble that is done like an influencer.
First of all bullshit with the success of a gambler and what is clear is that a gambler must have a great chance of becoming an addict even though he is a gambler who has made quite a lot of wins but we also have to realize that of the many wins there is also a series of defeats that always makes him come into trouble. casino to recover the loss.

That is the most important thing to be cleared first, because we may have different understanding or different point of view about "successful". In general, successful is related to achievement or in other words it is about when someone reach the target of what have been planned in the beginning. In gambling, maybe the main purpose is to be rich so successful gamblers can be said as those who become rich from gambling. On the other side, some people may have different point of view. Others may think that successful in gambling is when they are not addicted to it, when they are able to manage the activities wisely, or when they can enjoy it without affecting other things negatively.  

You're right because I think different people's got their different opinions about being successful in gambling, some people gamble for fun  and entertainment while some do so to make extra cash either ways if one achieves their aim of doing so then they'll be considered as successful gamblers but left for me I feel making extra cash is the real reasons while most people gamble because one can still do it for fun and make money out of it.
 To me I think it's does that are unsuccessful that easily become addicts, because most times they find it difficult to quit and would like to recover all the money they've lost and end up continuing gambling which is considered risky because one could lose out completely while trying to recover your lost, being successful alone means the gambler is able to apply the risk management in gambling that won't require the person to become addicted.

[Dunamisx]

If you're successful in gambling but yet addicted, no one will see the negative side of it in you because you're ok with it and also have something to show for it, if you're unsuccessful in gambling and still addicted, you will be discouraged yourself and people will also get worried about how you're being addicted because that is definitely going to affect those around you and the things you do also, addition has many disadvantages than the advantages it has, it's better not to started on that at all because not every addicted gamblers are successful.

[serjent05]

A successful gambler, in my view, effectively manages their funds, remains composed under pressure, and avoids increasing their bets to recoup losses. Those who neglect proper financial management often display addictive behaviors and typically achieve less success.

Do you believe that successful gamblers can manage funds effectively and remain calm in every action?
Not all gamblers can do this, even a successful gambler, here I want to ask what kind of successful gambler do you mean?
Is it a gambling influencer or a gambler who manages to get lucky and win big so that they are said to be a successful gambler because no one can really have success as a gambler unless they are paid for every gamble that is done like an influencer.
First of all bullshit with the success of a gambler and what is clear is that a gambler must have a great chance of becoming an addict even though he is a gambler who has made quite a lot of wins but we also have to realize that of the many wins there is also a series of defeats that always makes him come into trouble. casino to recover the loss.

Successful gamblers for me are gamblers who are able to control themselves and can successfully manage their bankroll.  They are gamblers who have never been addicted due to their strong self-discipline.

They won't be labeled successful if they become addicted to gambling.  I do not know where are you getting into when you state about influencers.  I think the discussion is not about any influencer or gambling streamer that influences their audience to play on the casino they are promoting.  The discussion is about successful gamblers and a question about them being seen as addicts.

The answer to the question is dependent on the person.  If the person has knowledge about gambling then they can differentiate the difference between the two but if the person knows nothing about gambling except that it is a sin, this person can't tell the difference between a successful gambler and an addicted gambler.  So better to ignore this type of person who thinks they know enough and condemn every gambler as a gambling addict or worse being criminal.

[piebeyb]

If you're successful in gambling but yet addicted, no one will see the negative side of it in you because you're ok with it and also have something to show for it, if you're unsuccessful in gambling and still addicted, you will be discouraged yourself and people will also get worried about how you're being addicted because that is definitely going to affect those around you and the things you do also, addition has many disadvantages than the advantages it has, it's better not to started on that at all because not every addicted gamblers are successful.

I have never found successful gamblers who have become addicts, because most of them just waste their time and money on gambling for something that is out of control gambling by following greedy emotions and behavior, most of what I see are addict gamblers always fail in their gambling even addicts are always negatively assessed by anyone because they cannot control themselves.

What you say is true, don't ever start, whoever you are, don't ever try gambling without understanding the risks, because there are no gamblers who are successful and rich because most of them always end up badly becoming addicts who are very uncontrollable and frustrated and even difficult to quit that addiction. even though an addict has played for many hours in a casino, they are not necessarily successful, so I think no successful gambler can be said to be an addict because indeed no gambler is successful, even if he is an addict.