Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

It cannot be denied that addicts have very distinctive behaviors of this, since we think that we develop in a world where society aims a lot, and that society is sometimes capable of being so ferocious that it is capable of making anyone sick, for example , and where I live people are too funny, and they talk about others, but what happens? gossip reaches the intelligent person, because the intelligent person is not interested in those stories that he does not even know if it is true or not, then a casino player can say that he is vicious, that he has a skin-deep addiction, but he is the life of that person, if he does not harm anyone or anything, that he be left alone, then I think that is the Main thing about this.

In the future, when I am of an advanced age, I would like to venture only as a way of working to be alone in trading and in casinos, that is why sometimes this type of thread, all the amount is advice on how some players play and how I like how they handle things the way they do, because it is evident that they have had more betting capacity and more money than me, and those who have the pleasure of sharing it I value it, just as I tell my anecdotes and my losses or gains , because somehow I know that I am contributing to someone who is asking for advice.

We or most of us live in societies where casino gambling and sports betting are seen as something bad, as something of a vice, addiction, loss or the worst, but I have seen people who smoke a lot and get sick because of it. nobody tells them that it is harmful to health, so I think that a person who tells us that those who play in casinos are bad people, even though he is a successful player and has good earnings, well, they should not consider it that way, is very different the things that people can develop, each head is different, each person has different dreams, and that must be respected.

In an advanced age, the person who trades, plays in casinos and knows how to manage their money well, I am sure they will avoid having diseases similar to amnesia and others, because the brain is active.

[Casdinyard]

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

It cannot be denied that addicts have very distinctive behaviors of this, since we think that we develop in a world where society aims a lot, and that society is sometimes capable of being so ferocious that it is capable of making anyone sick, for example , and where I live people are too funny, and they talk about others, but what happens? gossip reaches the intelligent person, because the intelligent person is not interested in those stories that he does not even know if it is true or not, then a casino player can say that he is vicious, that he has a skin-deep addiction, but he is the life of that person, if he does not harm anyone or anything, that he be left alone, then I think that is the Main thing about this.

In the future, when I am of an advanced age, I would like to venture only as a way of working to be alone in trading and in casinos, that is why sometimes this type of thread, all the amount is advice on how some players play and how I like how they handle things the way they do, because it is evident that they have had more betting capacity and more money than me, and those who have the pleasure of sharing it I value it, just as I tell my anecdotes and my losses or gains , because somehow I know that I am contributing to someone who is asking for advice.

We or most of us live in societies where casino gambling and sports betting are seen as something bad, as something of a vice, addiction, loss or the worst, but I have seen people who smoke a lot and get sick because of it. nobody tells them that it is harmful to health, so I think that a person who tells us that those who play in casinos are bad people, even though he is a successful player and has good earnings, well, they should not consider it that way, is very different the things that people can develop, each head is different, each person has different dreams, and that must be respected.

In an advanced age, the person who trades, plays in casinos and knows how to manage their money well, I am sure they will avoid having diseases similar to amnesia and others, because the brain is active.

I feel like you're going off on a tangent here, so much so that I no longer see the main idea behind your post lol, but all good though. If you're talking about the duality or the double standard that society imposes upon addicts and gamblers then I'd say you're particularly wrong. Efforts are being made to eradicate cigarette smoking, especially among teenagers and young adults. Alcoholism and drug abuse are seeing efforts to be eradicated. On the other hand, since Gambling isn't really an inherently bad thing, and while people may judge you for it if they found out you're gambling, the government doesn't necessarily intervene, and you're inflating the judgment part of this scenario cause in the real world, no one really cares about you except the people you care about. No one's gonna go out of their way to tell you to stop gambling or whatnot. It's you vs you in here.

I don't even understand the necessity of your final statement lol. But oh well you do you my brother.

[GigaBit]

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

I don't want to say that all successful gamblers are addicts. An addicted gambler can never succeed in gambling. Gambling activities of addicted gamblers will not be acceptable. Prolonged gambling does not address a gambler as an addicted gambler. Those who are successful must manage the gambling using sufficient knowledge and skill in gambling. Time does not matter at that place because they will get enough feedback of their time.

[nullama]

~snip~
I don't want to say that all successful gamblers are addicts. An addicted gambler can never succeed in gambling. Gambling activities of addicted gamblers will not be acceptable. Prolonged gambling does not address a gambler as an addicted gambler. Those who are successful must manage the gambling using sufficient knowledge and skill in gambling. Time does not matter at that place because they will get enough feedback of their time.

The key to be the unicorn that wins against the casino is to be lucky very early on and then quit.

The more times you play, the less chances you have to win.

That's basically how probabilities work. Independent events odds get multiplied, so if you have a slightly bad odd in the first gamble, then two events of gambling will make it worse, and the third even worse, etc.

You can see this with the probabilities of choosing the right side of a flipped coin. Getting the first right has a probability of 0.5. Getting the first and the second right has a probability of 0.5 * 0.5 = 0.25. You can see where I'm going with this, and that's an even odd of 50-50, the casino always has advantage in the odds so that makes it even worse for you.

[maydna]

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

I don't want to say that all successful gamblers are addicts. An addicted gambler can never succeed in gambling. Gambling activities of addicted gamblers will not be acceptable. Prolonged gambling does not address a gambler as an addicted gambler. Those who are successful must manage the gambling using sufficient knowledge and skill in gambling. Time does not matter at that place because they will get enough feedback of their time.

A gambling addict will only increase his addiction when he continues to gamble. On the other hand, if the gambler can manage his time and money, I think he can become a successful gambler because he can make money, although the amounts will vary. He also will not experience addiction because he manages to gamble well. And what is clear is that they will not experience problems like those experienced by gambling addicts because they already have good experience in dealing with gambling.

[molsewid]

A gambling addict will only increase his addiction when he continues to gamble. On the other hand, if the gambler can manage his time and money, I think he can become a successful gambler because he can make money, although the amounts will vary. He also will not experience addiction because he manages to gamble well. And what is clear is that they will not experience problems like those experienced by gambling addicts because they already have good experience in dealing with gambling.

Indeed, the moment he learn to manage his emotion and everything that will keep him away from getting an addict is a good thing and will eventually make him successful and will give him real happiness in gambling, he will be contended and of course he has a discipline. Most of the people now just stereotyping people in gambling industry and they treat them like all addicts.

[slapper]

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

I don't want to say that all successful gamblers are addicts. An addicted gambler can never succeed in gambling. Gambling activities of addicted gamblers will not be acceptable. Prolonged gambling does not address a gambler as an addicted gambler. Those who are successful must manage the gambling using sufficient knowledge and skill in gambling. Time does not matter at that place because they will get enough feedback of their time.

A gambling addict will only increase his addiction when he continues to gamble. On the other hand, if the gambler can manage his time and money, I think he can become a successful gambler because he can make money, although the amounts will vary. He also will not experience addiction because he manages to gamble well. And what is clear is that they will not experience problems like those experienced by gambling addicts because they already have good experience in dealing with gambling.

An organized, self-controlled gambler does exist. If this person firmly sticks to a set of rules and boundaries, he may be able to keep his gambling habit without falling into addiction. But, really, how many gamblers do we know who can consistently stay to such boundaries, resisting the temptation of a big win or the desperation of a massive loss? Keep in mind that a house always has the upper hand in the end. Therefore, relying on gambling as a stable source of income may ultimately result in failure

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

You don't have to be an addicted gambler before you can be successful in gambling, this is not by how hard we try to gamble that makes us successful, it's by how skillful we appear to be together with the luck involved in each gambling attempts we made whenever we are on casinos, to be a successful gambler, you don't have to be an addicted one, you only needed to have the same mindset as others have being successful in what they do while gambling together, this is more of how prepared we are in gambling and how knowledgeable we appear in what we do when gambling and not by addiction, gambling addiction will only make success more far from you than imagined.

[bitbollo]

Even good workers in some cases are classified as "addicted" to their work. I don't think It should be only seen as a negative aspect. What Is really worth Is the profit related time and Money invested in...I Will not care to much of such definitions.

[masulum]

An organized, self-controlled gambler does exist. If this person firmly sticks to a set of rules and boundaries, he may be able to keep his gambling habit without falling into addiction. But, really, how many gamblers do we know who can consistently stay to such boundaries, resisting the temptation of a big win or the desperation of a massive loss? Keep in mind that a house always has the upper hand in the end. Therefore, relying on gambling as a stable source of income may ultimately result in failure

Human nature often leads individuals to defy even their self-imposed rules. This applies to professional gamblers as well, as they may reach a tipping point where winning becomes a compulsion. Despite their exceptional management skills, emotions can overpower them. Consequently, if an emotional event occurs, they may disregard rules and money management. Nevertheless, this behavior rarely exceeds the unprofessionalism exhibited.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think it depends on how you look at it or interpret the word addict because it's almost undeniable that there are even some positive things even after labeled as an addict. But in most situations, addicts are synonymous with crackheads or someone who does things excessively because they already lost total control over themselves, cannot think clearly and the ability to weigh things correctly as well is already lost.

It cannot be denied that addicts have very distinctive behaviors of this, since we think that we develop in a world where society aims a lot, and that society is sometimes capable of being so ferocious that it is capable of making anyone sick, for example , and where I live people are too funny, and they talk about others, but what happens? gossip reaches the intelligent person, because the intelligent person is not interested in those stories that he does not even know if it is true or not, then a casino player can say that he is vicious, that he has a skin-deep addiction, but he is the life of that person, if he does not harm anyone or anything, that he be left alone, then I think that is the Main thing about this.

In the future, when I am of an advanced age, I would like to venture only as a way of working to be alone in trading and in casinos, that is why sometimes this type of thread, all the amount is advice on how some players play and how I like how they handle things the way they do, because it is evident that they have had more betting capacity and more money than me, and those who have the pleasure of sharing it I value it, just as I tell my anecdotes and my losses or gains , because somehow I know that I am contributing to someone who is asking for advice.

We or most of us live in societies where casino gambling and sports betting are seen as something bad, as something of a vice, addiction, loss or the worst, but I have seen people who smoke a lot and get sick because of it. nobody tells them that it is harmful to health, so I think that a person who tells us that those who play in casinos are bad people, even though he is a successful player and has good earnings, well, they should not consider it that way, is very different the things that people can develop, each head is different, each person has different dreams, and that must be respected.

In an advanced age, the person who trades, plays in casinos and knows how to manage their money well, I am sure they will avoid having diseases similar to amnesia and others, because the brain is active.

I feel like you're going off on a tangent here, so much so that I no longer see the main idea behind your post lol, but all good though. If you're talking about the duality or the double standard that society imposes upon addicts and gamblers then I'd say you're particularly wrong. Efforts are being made to eradicate cigarette smoking, especially among teenagers and young adults. Alcoholism and drug abuse are seeing efforts to be eradicated. On the other hand, since Gambling isn't really an inherently bad thing, and while people may judge you for it if they found out you're gambling, the government doesn't necessarily intervene, and you're inflating the judgment part of this scenario cause in the real world, no one really cares about you except the people you care about. No one's gonna go out of their way to tell you to stop gambling or whatnot. It's you vs you in here.

I don't even understand the necessity of your final statement lol. But oh well you do you my brother.

Well, I am only saying a part of what I have seen, maybe since I am from a country where the third world is really the things that are seen here are different from the others, I focus on society because sometimes in these parts people They tend to get very delicate with the statements that other people give about them, I don't understand why, sometimes there are towns where there are people you don't know but they know you, they know exactly what you do, if you go to a casino they know it, If you smoke they know it, if you do something I don't know, but they do.

Now it's not that I'm sidetracked, it's that things when it comes to how to deal with a person who is actually successful at gambling, casinos, sports betting, well at least where I live things don't look good when someone is dedicated to this. , the first thing they think is that they are working with drugs, the second thing they think is that they are working with contraband, and finally they don't see that a person can be very capable of doing something very well, like having talent in gambling, in which casinos, that's the last thing you see here, obviously my comment is focused on society, which is valid, right? Now if we go to a much more technical level, where there are people who know each other, who know that you play frequently in a casino, that you place bets, and that apart from everything you are successful, what reigns the most is Envy. there, but envy branches out into many other aspects, society (which is what I focused on), vices, among other things, I don't know if I understand myself, but I particularly focus on that, we can also go to anywhere the characteristics of a particular successful player, which can include personality aspects, for example, if he is organized, if he has a game routine, if there is a schedule to follow, many other things, but I think that is more ambiguous because they are an aspect of the personality, and I think that more than one psychologist enters there.

What happens is that the subject is very open, or maybe I see it from many perspectives, I can't be seeing it in a linear way, it reminds me of someone who said something similar in football when I talked about Ten Hag, but really in depth Ten Hag had a lot to do with it, they just didn't say it or state it, I hope you get my point, I think I've been very explicit and somewhat didactic to make this thread topic better, which I think is quite interesting, I started with the addicts, because I have seen many topics in the forum that have to do with that, sometimes that is what can bother many.

[Josefjix]

A gambling addict will only increase his addiction when he continues to gamble. On the other hand, if the gambler can manage his time and money, I think he can become a successful gambler because he can make money, although the amounts will vary. He also will not experience addiction because he manages to gamble well. And what is clear is that they will not experience problems like those experienced by gambling addicts because they already have good experience in dealing with gambling.

Addicted gamblers and successful gamblers are two distinct categories of gamblers; addicts are the categories of gamblers who continue to wager on games with no beneficial outcomes, whereas successful gamblers have a good taste of the system, yielding massive profits from the space so easily with additional calculated risks management. Gambling has caused enough harm to humanity, with some becoming depleted while others resolving their addictive patterns and becoming successful in the gambling field. There is ample evidence that one would suffocate through critical stages before reaping the benefits of the space.

[len01]

Human nature often leads individuals to defy even their self-imposed rules. This applies to professional gamblers as well, as they may reach a tipping point where winning becomes a compulsion. Despite their exceptional management skills, emotions can overpower them. Consequently, if an emotional event occurs, they may disregard rules and money management. Nevertheless, this behavior rarely exceeds the unprofessionalism exhibited.

at this point it all started as a matter of luck. I mean when someone who already feels like a professional gambler with very strong control will eventually be defeated by emotions when luck becomes a rare thing in his life at gambling and that control will be destroyed when emotions start to dominate in his mind and ignore all the rules he has set.
in this case everyone Im sure has experienced this problem when being an ordinary gambler trying to commit to self-determined rules to gamble responsibly ended up breaking the rules because of emotions that could not be controlled.
so its very difficult if this problem has befallen a gambler so that whoever that person will experience serious problems when luck stays away from him and will continue to bet for a win.

[elevates]

Addicted gamblers and successful gamblers are two distinct categories of gamblers; addicts are the categories of gamblers who continue to wager on games with no beneficial outcomes, whereas successful gamblers have a good taste of the system, yielding massive profits from the space so easily with additional calculated risks management. Gambling has caused enough harm to humanity, with some becoming depleted while others resolving their addictive patterns and becoming successful in the gambling field. There is ample evidence that one would suffocate through critical stages before reaping the benefits of the space.

Both are the same both are gambling continuously to earn profits. I do not see any difference here except one is getting lucky and the other might not be lucky on that day. A successful gambler does not need talent or skills as skills do not work every time. Both of them need luck to be either called successful or not. To achieve the desired result in this case profit they both need to gamble almost every day and gambling every day is an addiction. 

[maydna]

~snip~

Indeed, the moment he learn to manage his emotion and everything that will keep him away from getting an addict is a good thing and will eventually make him successful and will give him real happiness in gambling, he will be contended and of course he has a discipline. Most of the people now just stereotyping people in gambling industry and they treat them like all addicts.

The important is that every gambler can manage his emotions when playing gambling to keep himself away from gambling addiction. And it's true that maybe it can make him successful at gambling, but of course, it takes time and stuff. But as a wise gamblers, we don't need to reach a successful gambler because we don't know what challenges we will face. It's better to be an average gambler who can gamble freely without worrying about losing money because we can manage our emotions well.

~snip~

An organized, self-controlled gambler does exist. If this person firmly sticks to a set of rules and boundaries, he may be able to keep his gambling habit without falling into addiction. But, really, how many gamblers do we know who can consistently stay to such boundaries, resisting the temptation of a big win or the desperation of a massive loss? Keep in mind that a house always has the upper hand in the end. Therefore, relying on gambling as a stable source of income may ultimately result in failure

Indeed some gamblers are like that, but if we want to be like that gambler, we need effort and hard work, which I'm not sure many gamblers can. Many gamblers cannot resist the temptation to play gambling, and we have seen many concrete examples of gamblers who lost quite a lot and a lot of money. And the house is the one that earns the most money from the gamblers, that even the most successful gamblers cannot make as much money as the house.

~snip~

Addicted gamblers and successful gamblers are two distinct categories of gamblers; addicts are the categories of gamblers who continue to wager on games with no beneficial outcomes, whereas successful gamblers have a good taste of the system, yielding massive profits from the space so easily with additional calculated risks management. Gambling has caused enough harm to humanity, with some becoming depleted while others resolving their addictive patterns and becoming successful in the gambling field. There is ample evidence that one would suffocate through critical stages before reaping the benefits of the space.

From there, we can see which one we should choose. And I don't think we need to select both, especially if we still lack self-control while playing gambling. We must learn to control ourselves so we don't become addicted to gambling, and we also don't need to be successful gamblers because we only use gambling as entertainment that costs money. And gambling is enough to harm humans, but that doesn't make people stop gambling because they see that there are still people who can win a lot of money from gambling.

[Bitcoin_people]

It doesn't matter whether the gambler is successful or not but those who devote extra time to gambling become addicted. When a person first starts gambling, his only concern is how to win the bet. Gamblers first invest their money in various betting sites where they spend extra time and concentrate on gambling leaving all other activities. In that case we can definitely call those people gambling addicts because they spend most of their time on these betting sites. A wise person will never get addicted to gambling by investing his money in a betting site and abandoning his family activities but a person who doesn't understand anything but gambling gets addicted. So I think I would classify a successful investor as a gambling addict if he gambles and wins a lot of money.

[xSkylarx]

So I think I would classify a successful investor as a gambling addict if he gambles and wins a lot of money.

Would you call a lottery winner of a jackpot that that person just bet on? It is not classified as an addiction if you are just based on winning a lot of money because you can win a lot of money in gambling one time, but if you spend most of your time in gambling and you can't get away from the casino, then that is really defined as an addiction because you can't control your urge to gamble, which means you are really into gambling and nothing else. The effects are really bad, as you've mentioned, and that is really brought on by addiction. No matter if you are successful or not, it is always an addiction that is bad for you and the people around you.

[FanEagle]

Definitely, 100% without a doubt. Because "successful" gambler doesn't exist, "so far successful gambler" exists. I do not care who you are, if you are gambling and keep on gambling you are going to lose your money and what you are doing right now is only there because you want to make sure you can profit from it.

I believe that people who gamble should see it as addiction, I see it as an addiction that I am trying to keep under control and that's going to really matter a lot for sure. The best thing to do right now is that we could make sure that we can either avoid it, or control it and do not go full all-in with it. Hopefully that's going to matter a lot one day and we could do something that will do better eventually.

[darewaller]

It doesn't matter whether the gambler is successful or not but those who devote extra time to gambling become addicted. When a person first starts gambling, his only concern is how to win the bet. Gamblers first invest their money in various betting sites where they spend extra time and concentrate on gambling leaving all other activities. In that case we can definitely call those people gambling addicts because they spend most of their time on these betting sites. A wise person will never get addicted to gambling by investing his money in a betting site and abandoning his family activities but a person who doesn't understand anything but gambling gets addicted. So I think I would classify a successful investor as a gambling addict if he gambles and wins a lot of money.

Of course it does. Many of us wants to be successful because that can also means that we are profitable. Successful gamblers does devote a lot of time in gambling in order to improve their skills but it does not mean that they are also an addict. You can't be an addict and successful at the same time. Being successful means you have a discipline to your self. You stop after a couple of hours of practicing in order to relax your mind and body. You are also doing other things that a normal person does. I believe that newbies in gambling don't think about the profit but they only want to get entertained. It was the veteran gamblers who take gambling seriously.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

I don't want to say that all successful gamblers are addicts. An addicted gambler can never succeed in gambling. Gambling activities of addicted gamblers will not be acceptable. Prolonged gambling does not address a gambler as an addicted gambler. Those who are successful must manage the gambling using sufficient knowledge and skill in gambling. Time does not matter at that place because they will get enough feedback of their time.

I very much agree with your input, prolonged gambling does not make one an addicted gambler, if prolonged gambling equaled to being addicted to gambling , then someone like me will probably be addicted to gambling by now, I mean, I started gambling since since 2015 or so, though I started out as an occasional gambler, I played as an occasional gambler for quit a long time, initially, i was going to take gambling really serious back then when my mind was simply focused on making money off, but after losing a couple of dollars and learning a lesson the hard way, that is understanding that gambling can never be a reliable source of income, i withdrew for some time, and started gambling occasionally and most for just having fun till this day..

So, that someone has been gambling for a long time does not necessarily mean that that person is addicted.