Are successful gamblers seen as addicts?

[nullama]

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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

[Nerdy doctor]

Yes, and actually the number of successful people in gambling is so small that it might as well be considered zero.

It's weird that people don't consider these things and put a lot of money in the table, knowing that the casino has an edge.

I guess it's the stories of the few winners that keep the rest motivated.

It comes down to what people would consider as being successful. I’ve come across a good number of people who, over the years has had some big wins. Having won substantial amounts overtime that would make losses look insignificant, I would consider them successful in gambling.

Obviously, the number of people considered successful are very small compared to the rest. But I think a lot of people who would be considered successful do not always make their winnings and losses public as it’s more or less a personal issue.

Stories of huge wins won by an average player, can be very motivating for others.

[nullama]

~snip~
It comes down to what people would consider as being successful. I’ve come across a good number of people who, over the years has had some big wins. Having won substantial amounts overtime that would make losses look insignificant, I would consider them successful in gambling.

Obviously, the number of people considered successful are very small compared to the rest. But I think a lot of people who would be considered successful do not always make their winnings and losses public as it’s more or less a personal issue.

Stories of huge wins won by an average player, can be very motivating for others.

The main issue with anecdotes like that is that most people will happily share their big wins, but will never make their big or even medium or small loses public.

The most probable scenario of someone that made a big win is that they have put even more money into the casino in the long term.

Being ahead of the casino is extremely rare, and stopping forever after that is even more rare.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, and actually the number of successful people in gambling is so small that it might as well be considered zero.

It's weird that people don't consider these things and put a lot of money in the table, knowing that the casino has an edge.

I guess it's the stories of the few winners that keep the rest motivated.

It comes down to what people would consider as being successful. I’ve come across a good number of people who, over the years has had some big wins. Having won substantial amounts overtime that would make losses look insignificant, I would consider them successful in gambling.

Obviously, the number of people considered successful are very small compared to the rest. But I think a lot of people who would be considered successful do not always make their winnings and losses public as it’s more or less a personal issue.

Stories of huge wins won by an average player, can be very motivating for others.

I have said many times that a successful player is measured by what I can have won, this is something that can be deciphered for me as a successful player, for some things can be successful from the point of view that they can make a game Better , know how to play and success can be measured like this, but basically for me it is success when it is Measured by being very profitable, which is quite difficult, I think that out of 100% of players only 1% or less They are the ones that can be profitable, so basically it is the most difficult thing that can be done, I consider that things can be like that, of course I consider a person who has more money in the game to be successful, a long time ago I read that there was a person who Recently , I always win at the casino, they spend the whole day almost there and they can do many other things, so based on what they can achieve I know that it is very difficult to take this and be profitable, because if they tell me so I couldn't be it , My way of being relatable is something else.

For me, things when it comes to how to be able to have rebirth are something great, but for me personally, the strategy is very Rudimentary, it is very basic and it may not be a problem for anyone, but it is the safest Technique there is. in a casino and I extracted that from my trading strategy, and it is normal, it is like seeing the casino and trading as if we had a business, where each entry is a profit, it is about obtaining profits and about doing it safely, not It doesn't matter how little it is, but little by little and every day, it's like a business, because I think that in a casino if you don't have control of the money and don't take care of it, then in the casino you can lose almost everything, and that It is not the right thing to do, for me things have to happen naturally, for that reason one always has to make arrangements and try to ensure that the money does not go away all at once, but rather try to ensure that things are for the better and Don't Expect everything to go Away at once, money in a Casino can be very volatile.

[carlisle1]

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It comes down to what people would consider as being successful. I’ve come across a good number of people who, over the years has had some big wins. Having won substantial amounts overtime that would make losses look insignificant, I would consider them successful in gambling.

Obviously, the number of people considered successful are very small compared to the rest. But I think a lot of people who would be considered successful do not always make their winnings and losses public as it’s more or less a personal issue.

Stories of huge wins won by an average player, can be very motivating for others.

The main issue with anecdotes like that is that most people will happily share their big wins, but will never make their big or even medium or small loses public.

The most probable scenario of someone that made a big win is that they have put even more money into the casino in the long term.

Being ahead of the casino is extremely rare, and stopping forever after that is even more rare.

I go with that last statement being ahead of the casino is something that rarely happen, both good control with emotions and
knowledge with the game you pick, not just basic but advance that really give that huge edge.

Also true, that there are gamblers who are sharing their big wins but not the amount that they already lose with their gambling activities.

Most of the time, stopping when you are both enjoying and winning is the way to lose everything back and make you regret after.

[wxa7115]

Yes, and actually the number of successful people in gambling is so small that it might as well be considered zero.

It's weird that people don't consider these things and put a lot of money in the table, knowing that the casino has an edge.

I guess it's the stories of the few winners that keep the rest motivated.

It comes down to what people would consider as being successful. I’ve come across a good number of people who, over the years has had some big wins. Having won substantial amounts overtime that would make losses look insignificant, I would consider them successful in gambling.

Obviously, the number of people considered successful are very small compared to the rest. But I think a lot of people who would be considered successful do not always make their winnings and losses public as it’s more or less a personal issue.

Stories of huge wins won by an average player, can be very motivating for others.

If anything the evidence clearly points out to the opposite trend, gamblers in general will be very eager to tell you their success stories in which everything happened exactly in the way they wanted.

But if you were to ask them about their negative experiences a great deal of them will remain silent, this means that winning seems way more likely than what it is, which causes other people to think that becoming profitable is in fact possible and they get surprised to find out this is not really the case.

[Oilacris]

~snip~
It comes down to what people would consider as being successful. I’ve come across a good number of people who, over the years has had some big wins. Having won substantial amounts overtime that would make losses look insignificant, I would consider them successful in gambling.

Obviously, the number of people considered successful are very small compared to the rest. But I think a lot of people who would be considered successful do not always make their winnings and losses public as it’s more or less a personal issue.

Stories of huge wins won by an average player, can be very motivating for others.

The main issue with anecdotes like that is that most people will happily share their big wins, but will never make their big or even medium or small loses public.

The most probable scenario of someone that made a big win is that they have put even more money into the casino in the long term.

Being ahead of the casino is extremely rare, and stopping forever after that is even more rare.

I go with that last statement being ahead of the casino is something that rarely happen, both good control with emotions and
knowledge with the game you pick, not just basic but advance that really give that huge edge.

Also true, that there are gamblers who are sharing their big wins but not the amount that they already lose with their gambling activities.

Most of the time, stopping when you are both enjoying and winning is the way to lose everything back and make you regret after.

Successful gamblers could really be into those players who had really be that able to make that profitable towards gambling. For sure these fellas had already past up with that addiction because if we do speak about addiction then you are that someone who cant really be able to control yourself until you would really be messing up with your financial situation and on the time that you had get rid
or able to recover from addiction then this is where you would really be making yourself wary about gambling addiction and on the next then you do already have the idea on what you should gonna do.
Therefore, there are chance that you might be able to sustain or survive the riskiness of gambling and would really be that knowledgeable on what are the things should be done but still
you should really be removing into your mind about those risks of losing yet gambling do always matter with luck.

[piebeyb]

But if you were to ask them about their negative experiences a great deal of them will remain silent, this means that winning seems way more likely than what it is, which causes other people to think that becoming profitable is in fact possible and they get surprised to find out this is not really the case.

That's why there are always many gamblers who show success stories of their wins even though they hide many stories of their failures compared to their successes or wins. Things like this are usually done by gamblers who take advantage of the situation to attract novice users to become their referrals and then follow them to gamble and finally add to the list of many gamblers who failed and become an addict because of such people. not much different from influencers and streamers.

Most gamblers often cover up their negative experiences because in order to gain attraction and interest from new users that winning is actually easy to get by gambling at a casino even though that is not true as people see because most successful gamblers don't exist either, in fact there are is just an influencer and streamer who collaborates with casinos to show big wins to everyone and never shows the losses he experiences. nothing more than just marketing

[0t3p0t]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Some of them I think has this addiction thing but some may have the ability to be a profitable gambler or might have the higher chance of luck. If you bet once and then become successful then that is 100% pure luck. Ratio could be 1000bets/1luck so we need more bets to become successful in gambling therefore if we keep on chasing the jackpot I think it might lead us to addiction.

[Assface16678]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Some of them I think has this addiction thing but some may have the ability to be a profitable gambler or might have the higher chance of luck. If you bet once and then become successful then that is 100% pure luck. Ratio could be 1000bets/1luck so we need more bets to become successful in gambling therefore if we keep on chasing the jackpot I think it might lead us to addiction.

But that only makes you addicted and, in the worst case, suffers from great loss. As you said, the ration can be 1000 bets per luck. The word "luck" implies that we will never know when it will come, so it has either a good or bad impact. Relying on gambling to become successful is not a good idea. Maybe some people become rich because of gambling, like Lotto, but that doesn't mean it will apply to everyone else. Based on my research, there are more people who become poorer or richer than others because of gambling. Yes, because of addiction, and what factor leads them to addiction—simply hoping to become rich or just for a hobby? So I think "successful" and "addict" are not good things to be together. Why? Addictions mean bad. Even if you've gained a fortune in gambling and still gamble excessively, there's still a chance that you will get back what you've started or worse, become worse.

[carlisle1]

Successful gamblers could really be into those players who had really be that able to make that profitable towards gambling. For sure these fellas had already past up with that addiction because if we do speak about addiction then you are that someone who cant really be able to control yourself until you would really be messing up with your financial situation and on the time that you had get rid
or able to recover from addiction then this is where you would really be making yourself wary about gambling addiction and on the next then you do already have the idea on what you should gonna do.
Therefore, there are chance that you might be able to sustain or survive the riskiness of gambling and would really be that knowledgeable on what are the things should be done but still
you should really be removing into your mind about those risks of losing yet gambling do always matter with luck.

Chances that they already overcome that heavy addiction and learn from that experience are their key tool to sustain their position.

Not easy for it is, but in some cases, there are experienced gamblers who can really do limit themselves and able to sustain the amount of money
and time that they setup for their gambling activities and still continue enjoying or making some decent amount of profits.

It's a call that not most gambler can take, a good emotional and financial control that gives them an edge over other gambler and the casino facilitators.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Some of them I think has this addiction thing but some may have the ability to be a profitable gambler or might have the higher chance of luck. If you bet once and then become successful then that is 100% pure luck. Ratio could be 1000bets/1luck so we need more bets to become successful in gambling therefore if we keep on chasing the jackpot I think it might lead us to addiction.

Chasing after the jackpot is the same as chasing after money, and like we all know, when money is the priority in gambling, such gambler stands a very high chance of becoming addicted if he or she does not or fail to watch and monitor his or her gambling habits, so as to know when he or she is doing it excessively and possibly cut him or herself off.

Gambling is mainly one of the ways to just relax and have fun; any gambler seeking money through gambling is already abusing the original purpose of gambling, and i believe we all know the side effects of every abuse, it means we either stand a chance of losing money we never had any plans of losing, or we get addicted due to too much engagement in that thing, in this case, gambling, or even both.

[Natsuu]

~snip~
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

I would disgaree. I mean I think almost every gambler atleast once in their lives, have been called an addict especially during their starting days where there dedicate time and effort in gambling. But personally, I would rather call a successful gambler a “pro” rather than an addict. For me, a successful gambler, aside from accumulating a lot of winnings from gambling, they are also able to become discipline in their gambling habits. That discipline is what makes them successful in the first place, I believe. On the other hand, addicts would be people who cant control their gambling habits that it cause them problems, right? I may be wrong but that doesnt mean that succesful gamblers are automatically addicts.

[Blitzboy]

~snip~
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

I would disgaree. I mean I think almost every gambler atleast once in their lives, have been called an addict especially during their starting days where there dedicate time and effort in gambling. But personally, I would rather call a successful gambler a “pro” rather than an addict. For me, a successful gambler, aside from accumulating a lot of winnings from gambling, they are also able to become discipline in their gambling habits. That discipline is what makes them successful in the first place, I believe. On the other hand, addicts would be people who cant control their gambling habits that it cause them problems, right? I may be wrong but that doesnt mean that succesful gamblers are automatically addicts.

I see where you're coming from, but I must insist more strongly on that point. Isnt it interesting how readily society categorizes gamblers as addicts, particularly in the early stages of their entanglement with the game? Your differentiation between a "pro" and a "addict" is crucial. You emphasized discipline, which is a quality of a pro. They thoroughly analyze the rules of the game, plan their moves, and take calculated risks. Its past time we began to see it as a skill set and a well-honed craft.

On the other side, addicts are completely engrossed in the game. The compulsion is what matters, not the plan or the victories. Unfortunately, this urge frequently has disastrous results. What distinguishes one from the other, then? It is a discipline. But the truth is, cultural conceptions are steadfast. Though its a widespread fallacy, calling professionals addicted doesnt make it true. Lets question it, contest it, and contribute a nuanced viewpoint to the discussion.

[Sanugarid]

~snip~
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

Well, I see your point that those who are successful in gambling can also be said to be addicts because they put in the time and effort to be successful.

For me, the pro is different from the addict, the pro is the one who has a lot of control over himself and the time they spend gambling, they also record wins and losses so they can see and review it. In short they are more skilled when it comes to gambling.

These addicts are the ones who have a hard time stopping their gambling, they are the ones who will never stop gambling even if they are losing money or in debt. People who have no control over themselves, emotions, etc. when it comes to gambling, as long as they can gamble. They are not in their right mind.

[slapper]

~snip~

I have said many times that a successful player is measured by what I can have won, this is something that can be deciphered for me as a successful player, for some things can be successful from the point of view that they can make a game Better , know how to play and success can be measured like this, but basically for me it is success when it is Measured by being very profitable, which is quite difficult, I think that out of 100% of players only 1% or less They are the ones that can be profitable, so basically it is the most difficult thing that can be done, I consider that things can be like that, of course I consider a person who has more money in the game to be successful, a long time ago I read that there was a person who Recently , I always win at the casino, they spend the whole day almost there and they can do many other things, so based on what they can achieve I know that it is very difficult to take this and be profitable, because if they tell me so I couldn't be it , My way of being relatable is something else.

For me, things when it comes to how to be able to have rebirth are something great, but for me personally, the strategy is very Rudimentary, it is very basic and it may not be a problem for anyone, but it is the safest Technique there is. in a casino and I extracted that from my trading strategy, and it is normal, it is like seeing the casino and trading as if we had a business, where each entry is a profit, it is about obtaining profits and about doing it safely, not It doesn't matter how little it is, but little by little and every day, it's like a business, because I think that in a casino if you don't have control of the money and don't take care of it, then in the casino you can lose almost everything, and that It is not the right thing to do, for me things have to happen naturally, for that reason one always has to make arrangements and try to ensure that the money does not go away all at once, but rather try to ensure that things are for the better and Don't Expect everything to go Away at once, money in a Casino can be very volatile.

Isn't the topic of gambling success a popular one? Everyone has a unique definition. It's all about the profits, the green, and the wealth for you. And I completely comprehend. Money speaks, and in the realm of gambling it screams! However, it is not a simple task. No mister! Few individuals, perhaps 1% or even fewer, genuinely master the art of profitable gambling. This is a difficult game, and not everyone can play

Now for the strategy. It is acceptable that you have a simple one. Fundamentals can be advantageous and secure. In the volatile and unpredictable worlds of casinos and trading, safety is essential. Control, discipline, and consistency are of utmost importance. You must be committed for the long term, not just for a quick win. This is how success is achieved: incrementally, day by day. Therefore, keep your eyes on the prize, play intelligently, and always, always, always remember: it's not how much you win, but how often you win. Best wishes for success

[Docnaster]

~snip~
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

I would disgaree. I mean I think almost every gambler atleast once in their lives, have been called an addict especially during their starting days where there dedicate time and effort in gambling. But personally, I would rather call a successful gambler a “pro” rather than an addict. For me, a successful gambler, aside from accumulating a lot of winnings from gambling, they are also able to become discipline in their gambling habits. That discipline is what makes them successful in the first place, I believe. On the other hand, addicts would be people who cant control their gambling habits that it cause them problems, right? I may be wrong but that doesnt mean that succesful gamblers are automatically addicts.

It's one thing to be a successful gambler but totally a different thing to be an addict. An addicted gambler is someone that's always spending all his time, energy and resources in gambling most times not because of what they stand to win but because they always want to get involved in gambling while a successful gambler might not necessarily be active in gambling but always wins anytime he gambles.

[junder]

I would disgaree. I mean I think almost every gambler atleast once in their lives, have been called an addict especially during their starting days where there dedicate time and effort in gambling. But personally, I would rather call a successful gambler a “pro” rather than an addict. For me, a successful gambler, aside from accumulating a lot of winnings from gambling, they are also able to become discipline in their gambling habits. That discipline is what makes them successful in the first place, I believe. On the other hand, addicts would be people who cant control their gambling habits that it cause them problems, right? I may be wrong but that doesnt mean that succesful gamblers are automatically addicts.

I see where you're coming from, but I must insist more strongly on that point. Isnt it interesting how readily society categorizes gamblers as addicts, particularly in the early stages of their entanglement with the game? Your differentiation between a "pro" and a "addict" is crucial. You emphasized discipline, which is a quality of a pro. They thoroughly analyze the rules of the game, plan their moves, and take calculated risks. Its past time we began to see it as a skill set and a well-honed craft.

On the other side, addicts are completely engrossed in the game. The compulsion is what matters, not the plan or the victories. Unfortunately, this urge frequently has disastrous results. What distinguishes one from the other, then? It is a discipline. But the truth is, cultural conceptions are steadfast. Though its a widespread fallacy, calling professionals addicted doesnt make it true. Lets question it, contest it, and contribute a nuanced viewpoint to the discussion.

Although maybe in reality we cannot say that someone who is new to gambling is already addicted, because as said this is the initial stage of involvement in gambling so we cannot fully judge that the person is already addicted. And I would also add because it's very likely that they haven't found some factors or conditions that could make them end up addicted, this is the beginning of their dedication, so it might be too early to say they are addicts. But basically in the eyes of society in general gambling is a very negative activity, people will not know that in gambling there are several levels that must be passed so that they can enter the addiction zone. So maybe one of the reasons why people can finally conclude someone who gambles so quickly is because people don't know and don't understand about gambling itself.

It is very clear, of course the "pro" gamblers and "addicts" are different, as you said, those who are already pro in gambling already understand all the conditions that exist in gambling, they have a lot of considerations before finally placing a bet, in addition to looking from various sides about the risks that can befall them also do it with full calculation, no matter the small win as long as it is consistent. While gambling addicts are those who are always selfish and undisciplined.

[moneystery]

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I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

it's quite rare to see an addicted gambler who is successful from his gambling, most of the people who are addicted to gambling that i see have a mediocre life, not very rich, like my neighbor, a gambling addict ends up living in poverty.

but that doesn't rule out the possibility that there are also gamblers who are successful through their games such as professional poker or sportsbooks or from referral links and promotions on their channels. i think they can be said to be successful gamblers because they earn money from gambling and they are not considered addicted because they already consider gambling to be their job.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

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I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

it's quite rare to see an addicted gambler who is successful from his gambling, most of the people who are addicted to gambling that i see have a mediocre life, not very rich, like my neighbor, a gambling addict ends up living in poverty.

but that doesn't rule out the possibility that there are also gamblers who are successful through their games such as professional poker or sportsbooks or from referral links and promotions on their channels. i think they can be said to be successful gamblers because they earn money from gambling and they are not considered addicted because they already consider gambling to be their job.

First is, it is not even right at all to take or consider gambling as a job, so, to this is say that whoever is addicted to gambling is addicted to gambling, it doesn't matter if the person takes gambling as a job or not, gambling is not even a profession, why should someone in all the professions all over the world choose to gamble as a profession? this is absolutely not right if I'm asked.

And yes, there indeed can be someone addicted gamblers who are really successful, but the ones I've seen or come in physical contact with did not actually make the money from gambling per say, they have built and established businesses that make millions of dollars or whatever currency for them, they just spend their time and money on gambling as a way for them to have fun.
This kind of people usually do not even know that they are addicted to gambling since they already have more than enough money to gamble for life and never feel the negative impact of losing money in the process .