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July 09, 2023, 12:40:44 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

No I won't classify successful gambler as an addict and these are the reasons. First, if you are called a gambler addict it could mean you are not successful in gambling because if you understand the word addict or the way that the society identify it, it is not what is attached with someone positive and the society always have good names for what is good, people associate with success and not failure. What I think about addict is failure even if you will see some addict to be successful but rare.

Another valid point is for someone to be successful, they would have been operating professionally and keeping to the rules of gambling like understanding that if it is gambling then luck is involved, play with limits and not play just as your fingers push you to and all of these are part of the characteristics of an addict. In essence, they are different. Successful gamblers are not always addicts because they could be playing with limits and guiding their emotions.

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July 09, 2023, 12:51:59 PM
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No, successful gamblers are not called addicts. They are often referred to as gambling professionals, geniuses, lucky individuals, saints, or receive other compliments. On the other hand, losers tend to be labeled as addicts by non-gamblers. This is what I observed during the past years, I believe this is true.

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July 09, 2023, 01:16:25 PM
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I don't think others referred to successful gamblers as addicts. Most likely, they are referred as lucky gamblers and most of them are professional gamblers that play poker, for example, those in tournaments. Meanwhile, if you are a loser but still keep on playing, prioritize gambling over important matters. They are called a gambling addict.

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July 09, 2023, 01:19:10 PM
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You won't find a successful gambler in gambling unless they are playing skilled gambling. These gamblers are basically known as pro gamblers and you wouldn't find a lot of them. There are lottery winners who I do not consider successful winners and you can consider them addicts as they are playing with their luck. With luck games, gamblers are addicts and I do not consider their winning a success. They would have lost a lot of money before luckily winning big.  
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July 09, 2023, 01:22:17 PM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

It’s more on a passion or hobby instead of addiction is the right term on this case since addiction is always incorporate with compulsive gambling while passion is being good on what you are doing which is on this case is gambling. You can’t win on gambling if you are addicted since you will never stop playing. All successful gambler usually know when to stop and play to control their bankroll.

It’s very hard to be on profit in gambling while playing continuosly due to house edge. Most of the successful is focus on the quality of their bets for a better accuracy than placing multiple bets with less analysis.

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July 09, 2023, 01:42:04 PM
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It’s very hard to be on profit in gambling while playing continuosly due to house edge. Most of the successful is focus on the quality of their bets for a better accuracy than placing multiple bets with less analysis.

I think house edge is not just the only reason that an addict or consistent bet player would fail. Yes casinos are designed in the way that you will lose more than you will profit, therefore a consistent player is already design to fail more times except with the exception to win jackpot when it is his luck to win. So naturally, house edge is concluded already on that reason for losing but because addict and consistent player does that with sole aim to chase back the loses, so they will lose more but successful player is more relaxed to play less times and even when in loss, he doesn't allow the emotion to have a better part of him.

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July 09, 2023, 01:46:20 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
No I don't think so, because even if he spends a long time or a lot of money in his gambling but if the end result makes him a successful gambler which means it gives him a lot of money then it is a profitable activity, whereas addiction is more destructive and detrimental, so a successful gambler cannot be said to be an addict at all, because addicts have difficulty controlling so if he is successful and can add more and more money, it means he understands when to play and stop, understands what percentage of the money he has that he can use to play and have good bankroll management so that they can increase their finances from the results of their gambling activities.

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July 09, 2023, 01:47:32 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
If I'm not mistaken, I think that the clarification is broad and the explanations are varied, what else is related to gambling, whether they are successful or not, for me in understanding for someone who is active in gambling cannot be seen as their success as an addiction, there are many things and reasons to see someone is already addicted.

clarification, sometimes we have seen people who are unlucky and not successful in gambling, they can be seen as gamblers who are addicted, but sometimes people who are successful in gambling can be seen as not addicted, for that one's success cannot be judged by addicts, I can understand addiction is a person's morals and behavior and success is something lucky for them.

I have seen people who have gambled only once, won big and succeeded in gambling, he is not an addict.

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July 09, 2023, 01:55:57 PM
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Successful gamblers are different from most gamblers because successful gamblers have advantages over other gamblers so they can balance gambling and their lives and enjoy their wins. Successful gamblers have more advantages so they can be wise in playing gambling and will not experience problems. Even though they may encounter problems in gambling, they will calm down while looking for a way out. So I guess successful gamblers are not gambling addicts because they can control themselves well.

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July 09, 2023, 02:14:16 PM
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There are a lot of gamblers who become successful by being lucky. Like they don't spend a lot of time in gambling but they were able to win a jackpot, making them successful/rich. However, you can't consider them as an addict. Not all gamblers who win a huge amount of money spend a lot of time, money, and effort in order to win. Some are just lucky enough. Also if you're going to search for the meaning of a professional gambler in google, this is the definition you'd get.

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A professional gambler is someone who has complete control over the time, money and energy they spend on gambling. They are seen to be more skilled at gambling than other gamblers, and are considered at low risk for addiction.
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https://www.algamus.org/blog/thinking-you-are-a-professional-gambler

I haven't met anyone I can consider as a professional gambler or if that really exists but probably they're called a professional because they spend time studying about it and they are "professional" where they don't let their emotions affect their gambling.
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July 09, 2023, 02:15:09 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?


There are successful gamblers that are addicted to gambling and there are successful gamblers that are not addicted to gambling, but for me, the real success in gambling is winning some and yet not losing everything you've got, successful gamblers know the fact about gambling and he does not force anything, he knows how and when to quit what matters to him is he is having fun and its not about making money and beating the house because in reality you really cannot, he is a good reviewer and do not have a strong attachment to any casino, he is independent on all his action and gambling activity.

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July 09, 2023, 02:18:25 PM
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There are a lot of gamblers who become successful by being lucky. Like they don't spend a lot of time in gambling but they were able to win a jackpot, making them successful/rich. However, you can't consider them as an addict. Not all gamblers who win a huge amount of money spend a lot of time, money, and effort in order to win. Some are just lucky enough. Also if you're going to search for the meaning of a professional gambler in google, this is the definition you'd get.

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A professional gambler is someone who has complete control over the time, money and energy they spend on gambling. They are seen to be more skilled at gambling than other gamblers, and are considered at low risk for addiction.
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https://www.algamus.org/blog/thinking-you-are-a-professional-gambler

I haven't met anyone I can consider as a professional gambler or if that really exists but probably they're called a professional because they spend time studying about it and they are "professional" where they don't let their emotions affect their gambling.

I believe, you can see professional gamblers more on the poker players as well as sports bettors.
Because some people can really make a living out of these gambling games.
But if you are talking about luck-based games such as dice, roulette, I don't think you can have someone to be professional gambler and at the same time living from this kind of game.
And if they are professional so to speak, it means, they can contain themselves when in front of their games and control how and when to stop.
Addicts usually have no control of what they are doing, they keep on pushing themselves up until they are broke or deep in trouble with debts.
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There are a lot of gamblers who become successful by being lucky. Like they don't spend a lot of time in gambling but they were able to win a jackpot, making them successful/rich. However, you can't consider them as an addict. Not all gamblers who win a huge amount of money spend a lot of time, money, and effort in order to win. Some are just lucky enough. Also if you're going to search for the meaning of a professional gambler in google, this is the definition you'd get.

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A professional gambler is someone who has complete control over the time, money and energy they spend on gambling. They are seen to be more skilled at gambling than other gamblers, and are considered at low risk for addiction.
Code:
https://www.algamus.org/blog/thinking-you-are-a-professional-gambler

I haven't met anyone I can consider as a professional gambler or if that really exists but probably they're called a professional because they spend time studying about it and they are "professional" where they don't let their emotions affect their gambling.

I believe, you can see professional gamblers more on the poker players as well as sports bettors.
Because some people can really make a living out of these gambling games.
But if you are talking about luck-based games such as dice, roulette, I don't think you can have someone to be professional gambler and at the same time living from this kind of game.
And if they are professional so to speak, it means, they can contain themselves when in front of their games and control how and when to stop.
Addicts usually have no control of what they are doing, they keep on pushing themselves up until they are broke or deep in trouble with debts.
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July 09, 2023, 02:36:18 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

     -  As for me, I don't often play gambling, there are times when I win, but it doesn't happen often. But I usually always lose playing in a casino. Also, I don't gamble every day either. If I have a lot of money I only play there honestly.

But I can't deny that sometimes when I'm lucky enough to play, I sometimes wonder if gambling is a good way to earn money. But I also realized that winning in gambling is really just luck and that is the truth here.

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July 09, 2023, 02:42:43 PM
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I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

Maybe as part of their process of becoming a successful gambler, they might come first noticing themselves as an addict. Those are just momentary failures and character flaws. That overtime they developed a correct mindset in which brought them to successful trading. Those failures will serve as their frame of reference for them not to do again being a successful gambler. Things like over risking, overgambling, also putting alcohol or smoke in their gambling.

It's like starting in a losing game then creating their own path correcting their own mistakes then becoming successful.

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I don't think others referred to successful gamblers as addicts. Most likely, they are referred as lucky gamblers and most of them are professional gamblers that play poker, for example, those in tournaments. Meanwhile, if you are a loser but still keep on playing, prioritize gambling over important matters. They are called a gambling addict.
So, it seems what you want to mean is if you lose gambles, you are a gambling addict. I don't think so.
Because for me, what being a gambling addict is you can't control it. So, if we say, most of our gambling is winnings and we can't control it, we can't control winning and gambling every time, I can tell it's still an addiction.
For example, you cant control your gambling urges or irritable when you are not gambling, I can say it's addiction.

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Addiction makes reference to a disfunctional behavior. Since successful gamblers are having triumph on this activity, we can say it's being functional for them, therefore it's something healthy, positive, rewarding and profitable, without any financial damage, although there is an aspect gamblers must be attentive to, even if they are successful: to not live for gambling exclusively. It's important to keep in mind there are another activities they have to practice and that it's not healthy to spend all day long in front of a device screen placing bets, making analysis and following the news.

In this case, despite they being successful on the financial sense, the behavior is still disfunctional thinking on social and physical aspects, therefore an addiction can be spotted there and must be treated accordingly with a professional attendance.

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July 09, 2023, 04:41:35 PM
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To me the term "successful gambler" and "addicted to gambling" are incompatible, because if a person ends up winning money during their gambling sessions and quits, when we could call that person a successful gambler. Because they know when to stop in order to enjoy their money. I think this mostly apply on poker players and other games which need some skill in order to win. Not only luck.

On the other hand, if a person is addicted to gambling, then it does not matter much whether he earns money in one of their sessions, that money will likely go back into the casino's trunk, since he would not know when or how to stop.

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July 09, 2023, 04:47:17 PM
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Depends if they are having no control of their actions such as stopping to play the moment they want to. But if they don't have such control then they might be in such condition already. They might be winning at this point but if it is gambling addiction then things would fall eventually. All of your winnings would be turned into loss if you'd be playing continuously simply because winning will never be certain as we all know. The longer you play, the bigger the tendency to lose in the long run.
Addiction makes reference to a disfunctional behavior. Since successful gamblers are having triumph on this activity, we can say it's being functional for them, therefore it's something healthy, positive, rewarding and profitable, without any financial damage, although there is an aspect gamblers must be attentive to, even if they are successful: to not live for gambling exclusively. It's important to keep in mind there are another activities they have to practice and that it's not healthy to spend all day long in front of a device screen placing bets, making analysis and following the news.

In this case, despite they being successful on the financial sense, the behavior is still disfunctional thinking on social and physical aspects, therefore an addiction can be spotted there and must be treated accordingly with a professional attendance.
I agree with the effects to function on a daily basis. The question is, how would a gambler define success? is it on the amount won? For sure it won't be limited on such aspect alone. There's more to determine if you are already successful or not.

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July 09, 2023, 05:01:37 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I disagree!

For addiction (regardless of what it is) is a person's loss of control over something, characterized by the compulsive practice of needing to do that. It can be called addiction when there is damage or worsening of the person's quality of life due to the negative consequences of the practice of a certain behavior.

An addicted gambler will never be successful in gambling, because he does not know how to manage his time and money, and even if he wins a lot, the addiction will make him lose everything quickly.

Successful players love the game, but they are not addicted.

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