Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28

[Kelvinid]

You've got to give credit to Mike Tyson he is involved with these two fighters one fighter was named after him and he has a close association with the other fighter so getting him involved will add spice to the event, we never know but Mike could be involved in a thrash talk too, you know the Furys they want to hype any events where they are involved so we'll see in the press conferences if there's going to be thrash talks.
But I'm sure people will watch this not only for the boxing but for the dramas that come along with it.

It might turn that Mike will be the one to trashtalk with Fury, because I think Francis English level isnt good enough to parry creative insults and jokes that Fury gonna throw. Fury is a master of making fun of his opponents. And if you are not a native speaker, it will be hard not to lose that battle. How long Francis has been studying English? Probably around 5 years. It will be hard for Francis to parry something like "three piece and a soda" kind of joke.

Haha, I don't believe he's so desperate that he would hire someone solely for the purpose of trash talking. It's possible that his intentions go beyond just that – he might also be seeking insights from Mike Tyson on how to excel in boxing. Considering Tyson's status as one of the greats from the past, this could be a way to gain valuable knowledge. However, time will tell; regardless of their decision, I'm confident it will be geared towards enhancing the upcoming fight. As we can see from the current situation, the fight gained more attention once Mike Tyson's name became involved.

[TopTort777]

You've got to give credit to Mike Tyson he is involved with these two fighters one fighter was named after him and he has a close association with the other fighter so getting him involved will add spice to the event, we never know but Mike could be involved in a thrash talk too, you know the Furys they want to hype any events where they are involved so we'll see in the press conferences if there's going to be thrash talks.
But I'm sure people will watch this not only for the boxing but for the dramas that come along with it.

It might turn that Mike will be the one to trashtalk with Fury, because I think Francis English level isnt good enough to parry creative insults and jokes that Fury gonna throw. Fury is a master of making fun of his opponents. And if you are not a native speaker, it will be hard not to lose that battle. How long Francis has been studying English? Probably around 5 years. It will be hard for Francis to parry something like "three piece and a soda" kind of joke.

Haha, I don't believe he's so desperate that he would hire someone solely for the purpose of trash talking. It's possible that his intentions go beyond just that – he might also be seeking insights from Mike Tyson on how to excel in boxing. Considering Tyson's status as one of the greats from the past, this could be a way to gain valuable knowledge. However, time will tell; regardless of their decision, I'm confident it will be geared towards enhancing the upcoming fight. As we can see from the current situation, the fight gained more attention once Mike Tyson's name became involved.

That would be even more humiliating if he would have a translator. I can already make two jokes about that (like cant speak for himself aka not a man, or is that your mama that speaks instead of you).

"Valuable knowledge" you say. But I would say that boxing is different from the way boxing was 20 years ago, when Mike fought. I would call it hits, than knowledge. In general, does Mike really helps Ngannou, or he has helped him several times or there are few vids of them together, and media already pumped that as Mike "Iron Mike" Tyson is preparing Francis Ngannou for a fight.

Imho, the fact that he was a boxer, does not mean he can be a good coach. Punching people is one thing, but seeing everything (opponent) from different angle, building strategy, planning, training is different.

[tokeweed]

Even with Mike Tyson in his corner I cannot see Fury losing the fight. Trainers can have a massive impact on the mindset of the fighter, it can give them a big psychological edge and we must not forget if there are two big strong men in a ring either of them is capable of hitting the other hard enough to make them fall down if they land a punch in the right place.

A combination of the poverty-stricken background that Ngannou came from and his sheer will to survive and thrive, alongside having Mike Tyson by his side is not going to be enough to beat Fury but it should make it a very interesting fight.

The latest news is Mike Tyson agreed to train Ngannou in his up and coming fight against Tyson Fury, he followed his promise that he would train Ngannou if he had a boxing match coming and this is it, Ngannou had a big knock out punch if Mike can train him to polish his boxing skill and put a good timing in his punches he has a good chance of beating Tyson Fury.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/mike-tyson-fury-francis-ngannou-30621303

With all due respect to Tyson (I hope I'm wrong), he has little to teach Ngannou. It's like Usain Bolt training Ngannou to run faster. Tyson is unique, and what he could do is not suitable for others, I highly doubt that Ngannou will be able to repeat those combinations with closing the distance or any of those Tyson punches. Although if he builds a strategic plan for Ngannou and he adjusts it to his physical capabilities, then the chances will appear.

The 'Mike Tyson with Ngannou's corner' thing looks like it's just a gimmick to get more eyes in the build up for the event.  Mike Tyson is a house hold name, wouldn't hurt to pay him whatever his fee is and have him around you during press conferences, open work outs and what not.

When it was announced that he was gonna be with Ngannou, the vids of Steven Seagal 'teaching' Anderson Silva the front kick suddenly popped in my mind.  It could be exactly the same thing.  I mean at the end of it all, Fury vs Ngannou is an expensive dog and pony show.

I laughed so hard right now that all got attention of every colleague at the office. I almost forgot about that vid But jokes aside, Seagal helped train Brazilian mixed martial artist Lyoto Machida, who credited Seagal for helping him perfect the front kick that he used to knock out Randy Couture at UFC 129 in May 2011.

Anyway, Tyson in the corner looks better than aikido expert in mma fighters corner. Aikido seems completely useless in contact combat sport, because its goals are to protect and dont let attacker get injured. Completely opposite what fighters want. Tyson could only prepare Ngannou mentally, because he is a boxer, not a coach. That is it. Dont know what he can suggest during training? Only keep pushing Ngannou for more reps or rounds.

Oh for sure Mike Tyson will make Ngannou's corner look better as he's the real deal while Steven Seagal is more of an actor than a fighter.  But I heard he's pretty popular in Brazil.  Kinda like a folk hero among the people.  Not sure tho...  If there are any Brazilians out there please tell us what's up with Steven Seagal in your country.  

And this is now getting off the rail, but have you guys heard of the Steven Seagal story when he sht his pants?  Just search 'Steven Seagal and Gene Lebell fight'.  That should give you all the details.  

[TopTort777]

Oh for sure Mike Tyson will make Ngannou's corner look better as he's the real deal while Steven Seagal is more of an actor than a fighter.  But I heard he's pretty popular in Brazil.  Kinda like a folk hero among the people.  Not sure tho...  If there are any Brazilians out there please tell us what's up with Steven Seagal in your country.  

And this is now getting off the rail, but have you guys heard of the Steven Seagal story when he sht his pants?  Just search 'Steven Seagal and Gene Lebell fight'.  That should give you all the details.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dvGpkqpUeg (https://youtu.be/1-ynfOMi0Jo?t=130 best moment)

Dont joke with Steven. He should be in Francis corner.

[coin-investor]

Imho, the fact that he was a boxer, does not mean he can be a good coach. Punching people is one thing, but seeing everything (opponent) from different angle, building strategy, planning, training is different.

It's different when you have someone in your corner who's been there and have one everything, Mike can impart some of his skill in the ring but of course, Mike Tyson is different from Ngannou, in Mike Tyson's heydays he has no strategy he just goes there and goes for the kill, he believes that everyone has a plan until they get hit, so if Mike can teach how to throw a more powerful punch and hit the target at the right time, Ngannou has a good chance, checking the poll here it's a close one, but we have a long way to go, and there's plenty of time for Mike to teach Ngannou everything he knows.


Tyson   - 19 (54.3%)
Ngannou   - 16 (45.7%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 35

[Sanitough]

Imho, the fact that he was a boxer, does not mean he can be a good coach. Punching people is one thing, but seeing everything (opponent) from different angle, building strategy, planning, training is different.

It's different when you have someone in your corner who's been there and have one everything, Mike can impart some of his skill in the ring but of course, Mike Tyson is different from Ngannou, in Mike Tyson's heydays he has no strategy he just goes there and goes for the kill, he believes that everyone has a plan until they get hit, so if Mike can teach how to throw a more powerful punch and hit the target at the right time, Ngannou has a good chance, checking the poll here it's a close one, but we have a long way to go, and there's plenty of time for Mike to teach Ngannou everything he knows.


Tyson   - 19 (54.3%)
Ngannou   - 16 (45.7%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 35

The Poll is superhype as there are lots of posters who voted for Ngannou to win when in reality his chance of winning is very slim. As what their betting odds have refelected;

Favorite   Odds   Underdog   Odds
Tyson Fury   -1,000   Francis Ngannou   +600

https://www.covers.com/boxing/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-odds

The kind of odds Fury had is an odds that 99% of the time would hit. 

And if we convert that -1000 to chances, it will reflect 90.9 implied probability.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

[Shamm]

When it was announced that he was gonna be with Ngannou, the vids of Steven Seagal 'teaching' Anderson Silva the front kick suddenly popped in my mind.  It could be exactly the same thing.  I mean at the end of it all, Fury vs Ngannou is an expensive dog and pony show.

Yes you are right that mate furry vs ngannou will be a expensive fight as we are all know that this fight is one of the satisfied to watch and also for sure everywhere in the world that can access this fight will do a live stream. And for sure both fighters will has their own preferred highlights for this match. Some of a gamblers will choose Tyson furry to win this match but I think this is a hard fight as we all know that ngannou is a tough fighter.

[KTChampions]

The Poll is superhype as there are lots of posters who voted for Ngannou to win when in reality his chance of winning is very slim. As what their betting odds have refelected;

Favorite   Odds   Underdog   Odds
Tyson Fury   -1,000   Francis Ngannou   +600

https://www.covers.com/boxing/tyson-fury-vs-francis-ngannou-odds

The kind of odds Fury had is an odds that 99% of the time would hit. 

And if we convert that -1000 to chances, it will reflect 90.9 implied probability.

https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

To find out real opinions, one must look at voting with money and not with simple votes that cost nothing to the one who made a mistake in the forecasts.
I have always been amused by the American betting format - yes, in a sense it is convenient (it seems that it is maximally simplified so that the most stupid can bet hahaha), but if we want to move from quotes to percentages, then difficulties arise. The usual format is much simpler (you only need to divide the unit by the coefficient and we will find out the percentage).

[Russlenat]

That lucky punch will just be considered a lucky punch but yes Francis can win if Fury will no longer be able to get up. Mike can contribute to what Francis can learn from now on. I do think the confidence of Francis will be lifted because of Mike Tyson on his side.

Somehow one reason to admire Francis is that he always wants to prove himself to the people who doubted him and although this might just be one of the most unprecedented, he might be able to make it with just one lucky punch.  

No matter what the punch is, even if Fury slips and falls to the uppercut himself, a win is a win. Since this fight will somehow be official, then someone will write 1 on their record, and someone 0. But for me it will still remain a shameful circus (on Fury’s part) that chickened out and deprived the audience of the unification fight.

He cannot blame someone for that if ever his fight against Francis Ngannou will not be fruitful as he expected and hence will be a huge embarrassment to his career because he shook the wrong tree instead of continuing his way in the boxing career for the unification fight. For what it's worth, he have this coming and since this will be a professional bout, he should expect already that Ngannou will be coming to him hard because Ngannou himself doesn't want losses specially now that people are doubting him, he loved that!

[yazher]

To be honest, Francis Ngannou needs to win this fight because I have never seen someone beat a professional fighter after exiting UFC. I mean, all of them are entirely crashed due to their low oxygen capacity, especially in 12-round fights. They are all exhausted and can't continue to throw power punches after that and easily get beaten by their opponents. Tyson Fury is known to use that technique where he just makes his opponent tired and throws some huge punches to knock them out just like what he did to Wilder in their last 3 fights.

[Kemarit]

Imho, the fact that he was a boxer, does not mean he can be a good coach. Punching people is one thing, but seeing everything (opponent) from different angle, building strategy, planning, training is different.

It's different when you have someone in your corner who's been there and have one everything, Mike can impart some of his skill in the ring but of course, Mike Tyson is different from Ngannou, in Mike Tyson's heydays he has no strategy he just goes there and goes for the kill, he believes that everyone has a plan until they get hit, so if Mike can teach how to throw a more powerful punch and hit the target at the right time, Ngannou has a good chance, checking the poll here it's a close one, but we have a long way to go, and there's plenty of time for Mike to teach Ngannou everything he knows.


Tyson   - 19 (54.3%)
Ngannou   - 16 (45.7%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 35

Yeah, a prime Mike Tyson is very scary, but I do think that he trains hard as well during his early days that's why he almost knockout his opponents.

But going back to this fight, he could motivate Francis too and maybe gives one or two pointers on how to throw that devastating knockout if he sees one. Votes though are very close in our community. But if you look at sports bookies, they really favor Tyson Fury and Francis is like 6:1 underdog. So it's just a matter of execution for Francis and he should be aware on how he can preserved his energy for the later rounds.

[bittraffic]

Imho, the fact that he was a boxer, does not mean he can be a good coach. Punching people is one thing, but seeing everything (opponent) from different angle, building strategy, planning, training is different.

It's different when you have someone in your corner who's been there and have one everything, Mike can impart some of his skill in the ring but of course, Mike Tyson is different from Ngannou, in Mike Tyson's heydays he has no strategy he just goes there and goes for the kill, he believes that everyone has a plan until they get hit, so if Mike can teach how to throw a more powerful punch and hit the target at the right time, Ngannou has a good chance, checking the poll here it's a close one, but we have a long way to go, and there's plenty of time for Mike to teach Ngannou everything he knows.


Tyson   - 19 (54.3%)
Ngannou   - 16 (45.7%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 35

Yeah, a prime Mike Tyson is very scary, but I do think that he trains hard as well during his early days that's why he almost knockout his opponents.

But going back to this fight, he could motivate Francis too and maybe gives one or two pointers on how to throw that devastating knockout if he sees one. Votes though are very close in our community. But if you look at sports bookies, they really favor Tyson Fury and Francis is like 6:1 underdog. So it's just a matter of execution for Francis and he should be aware on how he can preserved his energy for the later rounds.

Ngannou might only be good if he is the one dictating the game because this would be what Mike would teach him to be. Not like a technical fighter who will identify patterns of how Fury reacts to certain approaches. Ngannou may fail in being a pressure fighter against Fury but he only needs one punch.

Like what Mike was always quoted. Everybody has a plan until they got punched in the face. Though it's a long shot, I would still hope for Ngannou to win. A new face coming from a very depressed country rising like Pheonix.

[jeraldskie11]

Imho, the fact that he was a boxer, does not mean he can be a good coach. Punching people is one thing, but seeing everything (opponent) from different angle, building strategy, planning, training is different.

It's different when you have someone in your corner who's been there and have one everything, Mike can impart some of his skill in the ring but of course, Mike Tyson is different from Ngannou, in Mike Tyson's heydays he has no strategy he just goes there and goes for the kill, he believes that everyone has a plan until they get hit, so if Mike can teach how to throw a more powerful punch and hit the target at the right time, Ngannou has a good chance, checking the poll here it's a close one, but we have a long way to go, and there's plenty of time for Mike to teach Ngannou everything he knows.


Tyson   - 19 (54.3%)
Ngannou   - 16 (45.7%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 35

Yeah, a prime Mike Tyson is very scary, but I do think that he trains hard as well during his early days that's why he almost knockout his opponents.

But going back to this fight, he could motivate Francis too and maybe gives one or two pointers on how to throw that devastating knockout if he sees one. Votes though are very close in our community. But if you look at sports bookies, they really favor Tyson Fury and Francis is like 6:1 underdog. So it's just a matter of execution for Francis and he should be aware on how he can preserved his energy for the later rounds.

Ngannou might only be good if he is the one dictating the game because this would be what Mike would teach him to be. Not like a technical fighter who will identify patterns of how Fury reacts to certain approaches. Ngannou may fail in being a pressure fighter against Fury but he only needs one punch.

Like what Mike was always quoted. Everybody has a plan until they got punched in the face. Though it's a long shot, I would still hope for Ngannou to win. A new face coming from a very depressed country rising like Pheonix.

Well in my opinion, it's still depends especially because they're heavyweight. If we look at their previous fight, one of them will immediately drop when hit in the face one or two. I just wanna say that Fury is the most experienced boxer compared to Ngannou, so it's advantage for Fury. Ngannou is good at mixed martial arts, and since the fight is held in the boxing ring, it's always advantage for the one who is really a boxer and fought already strong opponents. If we analyze very well, it's an advantage for Fury but it's still depends since the one punch of Ngannou is enough to put Fury to sleep.

[eaLiTy]

To be honest, Francis Ngannou needs to win this fight because I have never seen someone beat a professional fighter after exiting UFC. I mean, all of them are entirely crashed due to their low oxygen capacity, especially in 12-round fights. They are all exhausted and can't continue to throw power punches after that and easily get beaten by their opponents. Tyson Fury is known to use that technique where he just makes his opponent tired and throws some huge punches to knock them out just like what he did to Wilder in their last 3 fights.

There is no way Francis Ngannou is going to defeat Tyson Fury if you take any combination as power alone will not mean anything in Boxing and that too against the best Boxer. The only aspect Francis Ngannou can do right now is to add Mike Tyson in his training corner so that the casual fans will be hyped thinking that it can make a difference  . Tyson Fury is technical is every aspect of defense and counter punches and not just exhausting the opponent  .

[Vaculin]

You've got to give credit to Mike Tyson he is involved with these two fighters one fighter was named after him and he has a close association with the other fighter so getting him involved will add spice to the event, we never know but Mike could be involved in a thrash talk too, you know the Furys they want to hype any events where they are involved so we'll see in the press conferences if there's going to be thrash talks.
But I'm sure people will watch this not only for the boxing but for the dramas that come along with it.

It might turn that Mike will be the one to trashtalk with Fury, because I think Francis English level isnt good enough to parry creative insults and jokes that Fury gonna throw. Fury is a master of making fun of his opponents. And if you are not a native speaker, it will be hard not to lose that battle. How long Francis has been studying English? Probably around 5 years. It will be hard for Francis to parry something like "three piece and a soda" kind of joke.

Haha, I don't believe he's so desperate that he would hire someone solely for the purpose of trash talking. It's possible that his intentions go beyond just that – he might also be seeking insights from Mike Tyson on how to excel in boxing. Considering Tyson's status as one of the greats from the past, this could be a way to gain valuable knowledge. However, time will tell; regardless of their decision, I'm confident it will be geared towards enhancing the upcoming fight. As we can see from the current situation, the fight gained more attention once Mike Tyson's name became involved.

Yes, it is more than that. Iron Mike can do a trashtalk and he can definitely do that by just supporting Francis Ngannou without getting himself directly involved with the camp. But this is different and people are now giving more attention to the bout because they know that Mike can literally do a thing or two to help Ngannou in his bout against Tyson Fury. This is getting interesting folks!

[TopTort777]

To be honest, Francis Ngannou needs to win this fight because I have never seen someone beat a professional fighter after exiting UFC.

Are you talking about beating professional boxer or any professional fighter? There are a lot of examples when fighters got fired or did not sign new contracts with UFC, but performed better and showed good results in other promotions or combat sport. Like Gegard Mousasi or Demetrious Johnson.

To be honest, I dont want Ngannou to win this fight. With winning, he would earn a lot, but that will trigger other fighters to leave other sports and move to boxing. Plus that will lower the importance of boxing. Because look, a guy can go to boxing from other combat sport and beat heavyweight champion in a debut fight. Boxing champs will look weak on a contrast with Ngannou.

[Jating]

To be honest, Francis Ngannou needs to win this fight because I have never seen someone beat a professional fighter after exiting UFC.

Are you talking about beating professional boxer or any professional fighter? There are a lot of examples when fighters got fired or did not sign new contracts with UFC, but performed better and showed good results in other promotions or combat sport. Like Gegard Mousasi or Demetrious Johnson.

To be honest, I dont want Ngannou to win this fight. With winning, he would earn a lot, but that will trigger other fighters to leave other sports and move to boxing. Plus that will lower the importance of boxing. Because look, a guy can go to boxing from other combat sport and beat heavyweight champion in a debut fight. Boxing champs will look weak on a contrast with Ngannou.

In short it will set a precedence that Dana White doesn't like in the long term. We have heard his stories though, Dana low balling him and then he stood his ground and decided to go and fight Fury. So if he wins we might see an avalanche of UFC fighters, but who knows, Francis is fighting the best HW of our generation so very hard to see him winning even if he possesses that one punch knockout.

This is not his territory, so it's hard how he can out smart Tyson Fury even if he got trained by Mike Tyson himself. Because at the end of the end, him and Fury are the only two guys standing after the bell sounds.

[bittraffic]

It sounds like Tyson wants Tyson to lose according to his interview this isn't such a lopsided fight after all after examining Francis. But of course, he will be saying this since he is paid to train Francis.

Mike knows that at a certain age like 37, it's a lot harder to train someone to become a boxer unlike Fury who had been boxing his entire life. However it may end, Francis will still have the greatest story of his life from rugs to riches.

[KTChampions]

No matter what the punch is, even if Fury slips and falls to the uppercut himself, a win is a win. Since this fight will somehow be official, then someone will write 1 on their record, and someone 0. But for me it will still remain a shameful circus (on Fury’s part) that chickened out and deprived the audience of the unification fight.

He cannot blame someone for that if ever his fight against Francis Ngannou will not be fruitful as he expected and hence will be a huge embarrassment to his career because he shook the wrong tree instead of continuing his way in the boxing career for the unification fight. For what it's worth, he have this coming and since this will be a professional bout, he should expect already that Ngannou will be coming to him hard because Ngannou himself doesn't want losses specially now that people are doubting him, he loved that!

In my opinion, it is too late to argue since Fury has already consistently disgraced himself (the first time he ran from Klitschko). I fully admit that in the future Fury may collect all the belts: the first way is to wait for the older Usyk to weaken and beat him “guaranteedly”, and the second way is to wait until Usyk loses to someone else and then take the belts. But all this will already make little sense, besides, the show fights are addictive - a lot of money with a minimum of effort and risk. It's hard to come back from this.

[Ziskinberg]

No matter what the punch is, even if Fury slips and falls to the uppercut himself, a win is a win. Since this fight will somehow be official, then someone will write 1 on their record, and someone 0. But for me it will still remain a shameful circus (on Fury’s part) that chickened out and deprived the audience of the unification fight.

He cannot blame someone for that if ever his fight against Francis Ngannou will not be fruitful as he expected and hence will be a huge embarrassment to his career because he shook the wrong tree instead of continuing his way in the boxing career for the unification fight. For what it's worth, he have this coming and since this will be a professional bout, he should expect already that Ngannou will be coming to him hard because Ngannou himself doesn't want losses specially now that people are doubting him, he loved that!

In my opinion, it is too late to argue since Fury has already consistently disgraced himself (the first time he ran from Klitschko). I fully admit that in the future Fury may collect all the belts: the first way is to wait for the older Usyk to weaken and beat him “guaranteedly”, and the second way is to wait until Usyk loses to someone else and then take the belts. But all this will already make little sense, besides, the show fights are addictive - a lot of money with a minimum of effort and risk. It's hard to come back from this.

Fury has nothing to prove anymore, in my opinion. He already proved himself when he defeated a prime Wilder twice. During that time, Wilder held the number 1 ranking, and Usyk's name wasn't even in the discussion of champions. So, I don't think Fury is waiting for Usyk to get older or to lose to someone before claiming his belt. It's probably just a matter of negotiations between the two camps in terms of finances that hasn't been agreed upon yet.