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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
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November 11, 2023, 05:07:15 PM
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It seems like Brighton has a greater chance of qualifying for the round of 16 after the victory they achieved in the match against Ajax. This was quite an important victory for them because the additional 3 points made them sit in 2nd place. Apart from that, Brighton has a better opportunity in the next two matches because if they manage to achieve 2 win in the next match, it is very likely that they will qualify as group winner.
Brighton will most likely qualify from the group phase, I think winning one more match will make them qualify, of course they will chase victory in the remaining two matches and become group champions to avoid strong teams. The victory over Ajax opened up all these opportunities, but I am quite concerned about Ajax now, they are really down even though they used to be a strong team.

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And for Brighton, this is a big opportunity for them to focus well on their the European league because the European league is one of the opportunities for them to win trophies this season. In the domestic league, of course Brighton has no chance of winning the title because other team are stronger than them, so the European league is a place where they have to fight as best as possible this season.
I don't think they can win the European League because the competition is certainly very tough, especially Liverpool and Leverkusen. Of course they will try their best but my prediction is that they will only reach the semifinals and this is an extraordinary achievement considering Brighton's development so far.

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November 11, 2023, 05:27:44 PM
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The loses from Slavia Prague was very surprising result because at that time Roma was favourited to win the match and this makes Roma had same points with Slavia Prague but Roma chances to qualified still quite high because for upcoming match they only fight against Servette and first met from both team looks very smooth because at that time Roma can able to win with big scores 4-0 and i know draw result is enough to Roma to qualified to the next round but if Roma want to avoid playoff matches i think they should be finish at first place on group standings so Roma have to keep winning in the last 2 matches remaining with big scores if they want automatically qualified to round of 16
Roma sometimes doing shit to its performance. If we are seeing the line and we will know that if roma is trying to get perfect result but it was losing against slavia praha with very bad scores. It's very embarassing lose from roma.
This club was playing so badly against praha which is unbelievable for me to see that. I never expect roma to lose against low tier like this. Roma obviously plays like shit.

It was using belotti and lukaku. These cuys were not even able to score at least a single goal against praha. This makes me feel doubt to call roma as a strong contender to win the game.

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November 11, 2023, 06:54:42 PM
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So I said that Brighton must be able to beat AEK Athena in the next match because if they get 3 point then they will be safe enough to qualify for the next round. In the first match, AEK Athena certainly managed to beat Brighton and in the second leg, of course the situation could change if Brighton were able to play better to find victory. On the other hand, for the time being in group B, of course Ajax has a smaller chance because it is already far behind the team above it.

The remaining two matches will be quite crucial for them in securing tickets to qualify for the next round. But I am sure that with the quality that Brighton has they will be able to take one place to qualify for the round of 16. Marseille has the opportunity to qualify as group winner if they can maintain the good performance they have shown so far.
Brighton coming into tge European competition should know it’s a one that requires lots of seriousness and they should try as much as possible to keep winning streaks because most teams in Europe could pose some offset when it comes to the competition, so it’s safe to secure all 3 points when necessary rather than waiting to get the calculators back during the fixture like in the case of Manchester United

 With 2 matches to go, I think Brighton has a very good side that’ll pose a threat but consistency is key in Europe to be successful, cause they need to do everything possible to win their remaining 2 games and qualify for the next round, well I believe in De Zerbi he'll do everything possible to make it happen.

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November 11, 2023, 08:37:16 PM
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And for Brighton, this is a big opportunity for them to focus well on their the European league because the European league is one of the opportunities for them to win trophies this season. In the domestic league, of course Brighton has no chance of winning the title because other team are stronger than them, so the European league is a place where they have to fight as best as possible this season.
The competition at the Europa this season is very tough as compared to other seasons, because there are many big team in their good form participating in the Europa this season, and others who are playing in other leagues aswell.

They will further channel their energy into getting the best they can from the Europa, thereby increasing the competition in the Europa then it is now, I think after the group stage, the competition may get even though and Brighton may not have that form to stand the pressure that may come with it, so I'm no thinking they stand a chance to win the title as against other bigger team there fighting to really get the title.

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November 11, 2023, 09:10:35 PM
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The loses from Slavia Prague was very surprising result because at that time Roma was favourited to win the match and this makes Roma had same points with Slavia Prague but Roma chances to qualified still quite high because for upcoming match they only fight against Servette and first met from both team looks very smooth because at that time Roma can able to win with big scores 4-0 and i know draw result is enough to Roma to qualified to the next round but if Roma want to avoid playoff matches i think they should be finish at first place on group standings so Roma have to keep winning in the last 2 matches remaining with big scores if they want automatically qualified to round of 16

Yep, even we were surprised by AS Roma's defeat. even though, Slavia Prague should not be a big and very tough team. However, these two teams will qualify if we refer to the points they earn. the difference is, which team will enter the top 16, and which team will have to go through the playoffs later. However, if Roma want to become champions in this group G phase, they have to win the remaining matches with a landslide score. Also, without conceding. In essence, what I said is the same as what you posted in this thread.

Well, let's talk about the progress of this match. In essence, both teams both won the match at their respective headquarters. But what really annoys me is that Jose Mourinho always implements strange patterns for his squad. I mean, in the first meeting Roma won the match with an offensive system pattern. and when they visited Slavia's headquarters, Mourinho changed his pattern and system. even though in terms of player quality, Roma is superior. In fact, the course of this match was quite balanced. Slavia dominated in the first half, while Roma started to be aggressive and dominated in the second half. Likewise, in terms of opportunities, Slavia is much better.
Well, this is one of Mourinho's weaknesses when his team plays away games. they don't have the confidence to come up with an offensive system.

By the way, what I analyze does not necessarily agree with others.

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November 11, 2023, 10:20:05 PM
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Toulouse gave it their best shot in this game, Ngl. I didn't watch the game even though my money was on Liverpool and it's lost obviously but I heard from others that Liverpool was once again robbed by VAR. It's hearsay now until I see the highlights. Somehow I felt Liverpool was going to lose today but due to the fact that I'm always biased with my selection when it involves Liverpool, I still played it. The issue is not about resting players. Klopp usually rotates the squad to give players not getting enough PL time the opportunity to get some game time in. Most times, it's enough to finish the job but some days ir isn't. Today is one of such days.

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One of the common excuses of modern day football managers is they complain bitterly whenever they lose a game that the VAR decision doesn't go their way but will still not complain whenever it favours them in other games and I think that new tricky way of avoiding blames is absolutely not good.
The Toulouse win against Liverpool on Thursday was well deserved if you ask me because the team played with more determination for a win than the English Premier League club.

My only concern is that the status quo VAR systems don't perform as excellent S we thought it would during the inception. And also, it's human nature to complain if things doesn't go the way we want them to and has very little to actually do with VAR. Managers of the past didn't do it much because at those times, whenever a referee made a decision, it's final. And yes, I acknowledged the fact that Toulouse was exceptional in that game. I even mentioned it in my reply quoted above.

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November 11, 2023, 11:39:52 PM
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Yeah but Roma always make this kind of games in the european competitions, i dont know why this happen, but seems like they relax too much in this games, can you remember when they lose 6-0 against BodoGlimt in conference league two years ago?, and was Mourinho the coach and they ended up winning the tournament after all.
Mourinho always has a brilliant tactic to win the European competition. But the condition of AS Roma was different in the last season, they played quite consistently at that time. For this season, I doubt if AS Roma can win this competition because there are other stronger teams and can play more consistently than AS Roma. I'm even not sure if AS Roma can reach the final round of this European League.

Brighton will most likely qualify from the group phase, I think winning one more match will make them qualify, of course they will chase victory in the remaining two matches and become group champions to avoid strong teams. The victory over Ajax opened up all these opportunities, but I am quite concerned about Ajax now, they are really down even though they used to be a strong team.
The next two matches may be more difficult for Brighton, but I agree that they are possible to qualify for the next round. Brighton must play all out, they want to stay longer time in this competition. They didn't get good results in EPL, they try to focus in Europa League. The upcoming match, they will play against AEK Athens away. I don't think it will be easy to steal points in AEK Athens home. But I still believe Brighton will get points in that match because they actually have a better squad.


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November 12, 2023, 01:58:49 AM
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Jurgen Klopp have targets to beat this season, that's were we get the whole worrying face during game time and also planning ahead to gather his squad back on track. Liverpool playing in the Europa League, more like a decline performance for them but they will cope and try to win the title as a medium to bounce back to the big boys competition which is the UEFA Champions League, it's been on every Liverpool player's mind and they're crucially working towards it. Liverpool defeats against Toulouse is not even considered significant to the team and the coach, they have important games to play in the English Premier League and they will definitely shoot their best shot.
Even though in reality Liverpool can still qualify from the group stage with the remaining games, they should be able to get it earlier if they manage to beat Toulouse. However, even for a team as big as Liverpool, this is not going well enough and they have to be more patient to get good results in the next match. Focusing on two active competitions is quite confusing for Kloop because they also have to focus on the domestic league considering that they have the opportunity not only to finish in 4th position but also as a team challenging for the next title. Maybe that's why Kloop wanted to save energy from some of his key players in the previous match against Toulouse and even though the result was not what he expected, Kloop will certainly fix it all.
Jurgen Klopp seems to be focusing his squad on playing optimally in the Premier League. But even in the match against Toulouse we could see Liverpool playing very well. In fact, they continued to control the game very well. But Toulouse were smarter in taking advantage of the opportunities they got in this match. Meanwhile, Liverpool wasted more opportunities. But Klopp's focus seems to be on the match that will take place today in the Premier League, namely against Brentford. And everyone knows that Brentford always makes it difficult for the strong teams in the Premier League. So Klopp seems to be thinking about this and he wants to maintain the top 4 ranking currently occupied by Liverpool in the Premier League.

But I still feel amazed by West Ham who seem to be focusing their club more on playing more optimally in the European League. Because in the Premier League it seems that it will be very difficult for West Ham, who have currently even dropped to 13th place in the Premier League. So West Ham's hope at the moment seems to be only in the Europa League. And it looks like we can be sure that West Ham will progress to the next stage.

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November 12, 2023, 02:49:02 AM
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And for Brighton, this is a big opportunity for them to focus well on their the European league because the European league is one of the opportunities for them to win trophies this season. In the domestic league, of course Brighton has no chance of winning the title because other team are stronger than them, so the European league is a place where they have to fight as best as possible this season.
The competition at the Europa this season is very tough as compared to other seasons, because there are many big team in their good form participating in the Europa this season, and others who are playing in other leagues aswell.

They will further channel their energy into getting the best they can from the Europa, thereby increasing the competition in the Europa then it is now, I think after the group stage, the competition may get even though and Brighton may not have that form to stand the pressure that may come with it, so I'm no thinking they stand a chance to win the title as against other bigger team there fighting to really get the title.
Regarding Brighton, I think that's the case, their chances of winning a trophy are greater here than in the EPL. However, I still see that Liverpool, Laverkusen and AS Roma are stronger than Brighton, because we of course know that this is their first season in the Europa League so it will be very difficult to say much, what is needed is experience and mentality.

Not to mention that the competition will be even fiercer when the teams from the UCL will return here, and will really test the strength of the previously favorite clubs. Dezerbi must add strength in the January transfer window, if they want to build a more competitive squad to compete in any competition, even though they are currently quite good.

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November 12, 2023, 06:56:33 AM
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Regarding Brighton, I think that's the case, their chances of winning a trophy are greater here than in the EPL. However, I still see that Liverpool, Laverkusen and AS Roma are stronger than Brighton, because we of course know that this is their first season in the Europa League so it will be very difficult to say much, what is needed is experience and mentality.

Not to mention that the competition will be even fiercer when the teams from the UCL will return here, and will really test the strength of the previously favorite clubs. Dezerbi must add strength in the January transfer window, if they want to build a more competitive squad to compete in any competition, even though they are currently quite good.
I agree with you and in my opinion there are still other teams that are stronger than Brighton, I see Leverkusen's impressive performance in the European league so far and Leverkusen has the most points in the European league group phase, Leverkusen's performance in the European league and domestic league really extraordinary and I haven't seen Leverkusen's weaknesses so far because Xabi Alonso really makes their squad look tough and impressive in every match.

This season will be interesting because we will see elite teams competing in the European league and we are just waiting for the teams that did not qualify for the UCL and participate in the European league to compete fiercely to win the title this season.

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November 12, 2023, 08:47:08 AM
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Did not expect Liverpool to lose this match at all. The funny thing is Liverpool actually dominated the match in terms of having possession of the ball. But Liverpool was unable to do much with it. They were able to make things interesting in the end by scoring in the 89th minute of the match. But I have to say performance from the Liverpool was below average. The accuracy needs to be better from Liverpool. I don't know what to say then the fact that this is a match probably nobody expected Liverpool to lose. And at the same time, I have to give credit to Toulouse.
I'm not surprised to see Liverpool lose since they're intentionally did that.

Take a look with their line up where the goalkeeper is Kelleher, not Becker. They also give a chance for Doak to play and few of their quality defenders are injured.

In terms of statistic, Liverpool must be qualify to the next round since the only way Liverpool lose is when they lose with big margins (leading  3-4 goals) in the next two matches. Do you think St.Gilloise and LASK can do that? I really doubt.


Well, that is also true. They wanted to give a chance to the irregular players because this match does not matter too much, to be honest. But still, I wanted to see Liverpool win this match. But to be honest, since they themselves did not want to win this match, what can I do about it? But I have to say it was a good decision made by Liverpool now when I think about it.  Keeping players healthy is a big task for almost any team right now. And they made the right decision. It is pretty clear that they are serious about keeping the players, healthy. And no, I do not think at this point, there is any chance for Liverpool to not qualify.

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November 12, 2023, 09:16:49 AM
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Regarding Brighton, I think that's the case, their chances of winning a trophy are greater here than in the EPL. However, I still see that Liverpool, Laverkusen and AS Roma are stronger than Brighton, because we of course know that this is their first season in the Europa League so it will be very difficult to say much, what is needed is experience and mentality.

Not to mention that the competition will be even fiercer when the teams from the UCL will return here, and will really test the strength of the previously favorite clubs. Dezerbi must add strength in the January transfer window, if they want to build a more competitive squad to compete in any competition, even though they are currently quite good.
I agree with you and in my opinion there are still other teams that are stronger than Brighton, I see Leverkusen's impressive performance in the European league so far and Leverkusen has the most points in the European league group phase, Leverkusen's performance in the European league and domestic league really extraordinary and I haven't seen Leverkusen's weaknesses so far because Xabi Alonso really makes their squad look tough and impressive in every match.

This season will be interesting because we will see elite teams competing in the European league and we are just waiting for the teams that did not qualify for the UCL and participate in the European league to compete fiercely to win the title this season.
Leverkusen current achievements are so strong that even in the domestic league this team has higher consistency and in this european league Leverkusen is also able to appear very stable, always able to secure victory in every match and all this is thanks to the strategic contribution of Xabi who really understands the character the player.

but what you have to pay attention to right now is that maybe currently Leverkusen is in its best trend in the european league but when Sevilla does not qualify for the UCL and has to appear in the european league I think Leverkusen will get a strong challenger because in history the holder of the most european league titles is only Sevilla who is more experienced.

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November 12, 2023, 10:31:10 AM
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However, I think this result cannot negate Liverpool status as the favorite team in this competition. I was also surprised by this result because on paper the Reds have all the attributes to secure three points at home to Toulouse. Currently Klopp squad still leads the Group E standings with 9 points. There are two games left, and I don't expect Liverpool to drop any points. Maybe Klopp should change his strategy so that it is difficult for opponents to guess, and they can move forward easily in the remaining two matches.
The result of the match will not affect Liverpool's chances of winning the group because they have collected nine points. This defeat provides an opportunity for Toulouse to catch up on Liverpool's points in the remaining matches and if Liverpool are careless again like when they faced Toulouse then they might fail to win the group. However, I think this will be a special consideration for Jurgen Klopp and he will definitely try to evaluate this match so that it doesn't happen again in the remaining matches.

Having players who are much more capable should be a good asset for Liverpool to achieve victory. But if you look at the match Liverpool had difficulty developing their game and a number of opportunities were still poor in the final finish. Only in the 70th minute did they start to show their usual rhythm of play, but unfortunately until the match ended they failed to add a goal because Toulouse players were solid in defense.

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November 12, 2023, 11:40:23 AM
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The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

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November 12, 2023, 12:12:20 PM
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The loses from Slavia Prague was very surprising result because at that time Roma was favourited to win the match and this makes Roma had same points with Slavia Prague but Roma chances to qualified still quite high because for upcoming match they only fight against Servette and first met from both team looks very smooth because at that time Roma can able to win with big scores 4-0 and i know draw result is enough to Roma to qualified to the next round but if Roma want to avoid playoff matches i think they should be finish at first place on group standings so Roma have to keep winning in the last 2 matches remaining with big scores if they want automatically qualified to round of 16
There were many surprises in the fourth match, not only did Roma lose but Liverpool also lost, which was clearly a surprise. Surely many bettors have lost a lot of money because of these two match results, whether because they entered it in a multibet or single bet which turned out not to go as predicted.
What is surprising is how Roma were not able to score goals and also the chances they created were not many whereas Prague played very well and another thing that was also quite bad for Roma was how they did not have a single corner kick while Prague had 7.
Prague's strategy was more effective in scoring goals in this match than Roma's, and this time Lukaku was unable to break his team's deadlock as he is usually the player who successfully lifts his team when things don't go as expected, and I'm still quite confident that Roma will win in the next match to qualify for the group phase without having to go through the playoffs.

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The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.
As far as they are in the Eorpa League with 2 wins 1 draw and 1 loss I think it's not a bad achievement for those who are first time in a big competition like this and are in second place and above Ajax which we know what their history is like actually it has been very good for Brighton to date.
Now they only have to be able to secure 1 win if their target is the play offs but with their current points situation which is indeed quite close it would be great if they are still aiming for the main position in this group phase because sometimes the Play offs are increasingly difficult because they have to fight some of the teams that come out of the Champions League so in the last 2 matches, especially when facing Marseille they must be able to lock 2 wins so that they can directly qualify without making a play off first.

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November 12, 2023, 03:37:06 PM
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Yeah but Roma always make this kind of games in the european competitions, i dont know why this happen, but seems like they relax too much in this games, can you remember when they lose 6-0 against BodoGlimt in conference league two years ago?, and was Mourinho the coach and they ended up winning the tournament after all.
Mourinho always has a brilliant tactic to win the European competition. But the condition of AS Roma was different in the last season, they played quite consistently at that time. For this season, I doubt if AS Roma can win this competition because there are other stronger teams and can play more consistently than AS Roma. I'm even not sure if AS Roma can reach the final round of this European League.

Brighton will most likely qualify from the group phase, I think winning one more match will make them qualify, of course they will chase victory in the remaining two matches and become group champions to avoid strong teams. The victory over Ajax opened up all these opportunities, but I am quite concerned about Ajax now, they are really down even though they used to be a strong team.
The next two matches may be more difficult for Brighton, but I agree that they are possible to qualify for the next round. Brighton must play all out, they want to stay longer time in this competition. They didn't get good results in EPL, they try to focus in Europa League. The upcoming match, they will play against AEK Athens away. I don't think it will be easy to steal points in AEK Athens home. But I still believe Brighton will get points in that match because they actually have a better squad.



I also think that they have a good chance to qualify. Because they have a three-point advantage compared to the team that is right behind them. They are currently in the second position and obviously do not see how they can face too many problems with qualifying for the next stage of the competition from where they are right now. But again, they should not take things easy at all. Underestimating any opponent is actually the worst mistake that any team can make. That's how the big teams actually end up losing against the weaker ones.

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November 12, 2023, 04:21:03 PM
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The loses from Slavia Prague was very surprising result because at that time Roma was favourited to win the match and this makes Roma had same points with Slavia Prague but Roma chances to qualified still quite high because for upcoming match they only fight against Servette and first met from both team looks very smooth because at that time Roma can able to win with big scores 4-0 and i know draw result is enough to Roma to qualified to the next round but if Roma want to avoid playoff matches i think they should be finish at first place on group standings so Roma have to keep winning in the last 2 matches remaining with big scores if they want automatically qualified to round of 16
Personally, Im not as shocked as some people are that Roma lost to Slavia Prague. Everyone thinks Roma is the better team, but sport is always unpredictable. What matters now is that they get those big wins in the last few games. They should definitely try to finish in the top three to avoid the playoffs, but its not enough for them to just win; they need to do it easily. They feel like they need to make a point. Not to mention Mourinho's unexpected tactics. This happens a lot, especially when they are playing away, and it doesnt always work out. Sure, they're talented, but they need to be more constant in how they play, especially in games like these that are very important.

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November 12, 2023, 04:39:56 PM
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The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

Yes indeed, when the season has not started the fact that Brighton is quite favored to have a good performance in this season both in the Premier League and also in the Europa League. But ya, the reality is that Brighton has experienced performance instability so far this season but even so, at least Brighton can also still guarantee to qualify for the next round in this European Lige by finishing in the top two in group B. But yes, if Brighton is currently expected to be a title candidate, then it seems that the prediction is no longer valid because it is difficult for Brighton to maintain a stable performance this season. Moreover, at this moment there are Liverpool and also Bayer Leverkusen in the Europa League, which of course Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen have better quality compared to Brighton.

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November 12, 2023, 04:53:15 PM
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The result of the match will not affect Liverpool's chances of winning the group because they have collected nine points. This defeat provides an opportunity for Toulouse to catch up on Liverpool's points in the remaining matches and if Liverpool are careless again like when they faced Toulouse then they might fail to win the group. However, I think this will be a special consideration for Jurgen Klopp and he will definitely try to evaluate this match so that it doesn't happen again in the remaining matches.
Loss from Toulouse not really bad result for Liverpool still manage top position have two points left, but they can't qualify as soon possible to next round and need waiting until end of group stage matches with two matches left. Jurgen Klopp will evaluate after losing from Toulouse exactly its not strong opponent teams because first meeting on Anfield Liverpool won bigger score 5-1. Liverpool have all out on two matches left if won't qualify to next round trough playoff round because will be difficult position if have to play in playoff round against with team relegated from Champion League.

Left two matches against LASK and Union Saint must win and take six points to secure first position and qualify automatically to 16th round without play in playoff round. In Group F, Toulouse and Liverpool looks favorite team will lead to 16 and playoff round looking Union Saint have gap three points from Toulouse.

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