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April 12, 2024, 01:57:31 PM
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What happened yesterday has a simple explanation, and at least IN MY OPINION, Liverpool didn't show the interest that the competition deserves, while Atalanta did

I don't agree that Liverpool didn't show interest in the competition, they did. They were simply outplayed by Atalanta. I think Liverpool overrated themselves or they underrated Atalanta. Most Liverpool fans felt it would be a walk in the park because they were playing at home too. English fans need to follow other leagues more often, EPL teams are not the only good teams in Europe.

I don't think Liverpool will make a comeback against Atalanta. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's extremely difficult considering the fact they're they're playing away from home. How are they going to score 4 goals and make sure Atalanta doesn't score at home?

Yeah, we played too weak of a squad last night. I'm going to tune out for the rest of the season I guess Sad

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April 12, 2024, 02:02:00 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
liverpool's loss to atalanta was the worst day for all the bettors who entrusted their money to this match to choose liverpool even though in this match liverpool were the hosts, atalanta's possession of the ball was actually very low, only 30% but they really played in a disciplined manner so that every attack was what liverpool did could easily be tracked, i saw in the match footage how disappointed liverpool fans were when their favorite team (which was predicted to be the EPL champion this season) was beaten 3-0 by atalanta, winning 3-0 on aggregate, there is little chance of Liverpool being able to win catch up with them at home to atalanta later (leg 2)

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April 12, 2024, 02:10:22 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
Liverpool coach is the responsible for the failure of Liverpool game yesterday because he bench the talent players not to play the first half to make people think that without those players Liverpool can succeed any competition.

 But what happened in the first half that made Atalanta to secured 1 goal to weaken the strength of Liverpool, and they take a good side of the game through out the 45 minutes, and use the second half to secured 2 goals to beat Liverpool 3:0.

 I guess many people bet for the favour of Liverpool, and they all lose their money because Atalanta players came with full force to use Liverpool like weak team for not allowed them to score a single goal.

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April 12, 2024, 02:13:23 PM
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Nothing is impossible, especially in these competitions, I've seen many comebacks that were impossible, but of course it's become VERY difficult now for the English team
What happened yesterday has a simple explanation, and at least IN MY OPINION, Liverpool didn't show the interest that the competition deserves, while Atalanta did
Liverpool's focus is entirely on Premier League, and they thought they could beat Atalanta without any complications
Liverpool wanted the Champions League and not the Europa League, but now they'll be left with nothing, and will have to work hard in the Premier League
If Liverpool has no interest in the European league because they only want the Champions League and EPL, I think Liverpool have made a fatal mistake. This season they have a good chance in the European league, but not in fighting for the English league title. The draw against United reduced their chances in the Premier League. Competition is still very competitive. So they should also pay attention to the European league because that could be the only title they can win this season.

I don't think Liverpool is not interested in the European league. I'm just trying to share your opinion. For me personally, Liverpool is also interested in the European league. But I'm still confused about Klopp's strategy that night. I never thought Liverpool could lose by 3 goals to Atalanta. Their chances of qualifying for the next round will be very difficult.

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April 12, 2024, 02:14:40 PM
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Half time:
  • AC Milan (0) vs AS Roma (1)
  • Bayer Leverkusen (0) vs West Ham United (0)
  • Benfica (1) vs Marseille (0)
  • Liverpool (0) vs Atalanta (1)

Four matches filled with hope that the bet can survive. Yeah. The 1st betting option is not the best to do. For those who have already done so, the odds have changed and can be placed again.

Rome surprised me. De Rossi did a great job.
Not the Liverpool match, but I am waiting for the final result of the Leverkusen vs West Ham United match.
If West Ham manages to hold Leverkusen to a draw, it will be easy for West Ham to break Xabi Alonso's record.
Bayer Leverkusen should not underestimate West Ham. The Hammers may look beatable but so far they are putting up a strong front. I know it will be difficult for David Moyes' boys to take a win here but football is filled with surprises so anything can happen and I'm hoping to see more goals in this second half as the first was more like the hosts getting acquainted with their opponents.
Even so, Leverkusen still continued their good trend until yesterday's match against West Ham United by being unbeaten.
The thing is in a match that anything can happen, maybe the 2nd leg in Germany, Leverkusen can go on to win to make them qualify for the semifinals.

West Ham may be working hard in London, but with a defeat in the 1st leg with an aggregate of 2-0, the pursuit of an equalizer is already tough.

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April 12, 2024, 02:26:35 PM
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Bayer Leverkusen, as expected, defeated West Ham 2-0 and managed to get an important win for the round.Leverkusen, who did not even give their opponent the opportunity to play, certainly had more chances to score more goals in the match.West ham had 1 shot during the match while Bayer Leverkusen had 33 shots.The fact that this match resulted in 2 goals shows us how strange this statistic is. It was a pity for Leverkusen that they couldn't make the difference 4 or 5 despite dominating the match so much.It was obvious from the beginning that Leverkusen would be the side to go through, but it is not logically expected that there would be so much difference between the 2 teams.Leverkusen will focus on this now that they have opened the gap in the league.
This season in the European League we are considering Liverpool as the favorite team as much as Bayer Leverkusen. In our discussion it emerged that Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will qualify for this Europa League final. The Europa League quarter-final matches won't be as exciting because of how predictable the results are when a weak side is pitted against a strong opponent. Even if people don't watch the quarter-final games that way, all the semi-final games will be interesting and people will try to follow more European leagues from the semi-finals. Expect Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen to qualify for the Europa League final this season and Liverpool to win the title by defeating Bayer Leverkusen in the final match.
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April 12, 2024, 02:39:45 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.

It's clear that if Klopp didn't understand Atlanta's game play and this is the possible reason for him to start salah from the bench. I know that klopp tries to save salah for the PL competitions but klop forget that if the situation is getting even stricter at europa league. He made some mistakes that cost the club a lot of money in this case, given that if the club hadn't thought about it if atalanta would be creating perfect wall that liverpool can't even break. I must admit how astonishing the performance from atalanta players in that game.  Atlanta has showed how to parking bus properly. I must admit that Liverpool's attacks were always deflected when it was almost reaching the penalty box.
Klopp is now seriously considering how to defeat Atalanta in the second leg. It's difficult to imagine, given that Atlanta is currently leading the game with three goals against liverpool as the result from the first leg. Liverpool will also play at Atalanta's home, exacerbating the situation as the output from the first leg.
I avoid gambling on Liverpool because it will put them in a disadvantageous position, and thinking about Liverpool coming back with three goals is also impossible. I believe Atlanta will play even more defensively in the upcoming game.

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April 12, 2024, 02:42:51 PM
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Hahaha Liverpool being defeated by Atalanta is kind of a joke to me, even though Liverpool is very much the favorite of the bettors in this match, but who would have thought that he would actually fail the bet because Liverpool lost this match even with a fairly big score. Even though Liverpool played well and controlled the ball more dominantly, they were unable to score a goal against Atalanta, while Atalanta, with all the strength they had, was able to beat Liverpool's strong team.
The big surprise in the Europa League quarter-finals occurred at Anfield when Liverpool was humiliated by Atalanta. Liverpool who are still competing in the Premier League with Arsenal and Manchester City in the title race, are unable to withstand the onslaught of teams who are having difficulty breaking into the top four in Serie A.

Liverpool surprising defeat at Anfield gave Leverkusen an advantage who managed to win 2-0 over West Ham. Liverpool will certainly have difficulty making a comeback at Atalanta's headquarters when playing the game in the second leg, Liverpool's faltering makes Bayer Leverkusen the strongest candidate to win this season.

The final result of the match is not calculated by who played the best, but by who managed to score the most goals in the match. Leverkusen will continue to appear dominant in the second leg in order to win the treble this season, currently Xabi Alonso's team still has the chance to win the Bundesliga, Europa League and DFB-Pokal trophies.

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April 12, 2024, 02:45:03 PM
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This season in the European League we are considering Liverpool as the favorite team as much as Bayer Leverkusen. In our discussion it emerged that Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will qualify for this Europa League final. The Europa League quarter-final matches won't be as exciting because of how predictable the results are when a weak side is pitted against a strong opponent. Even if people don't watch the quarter-final games that way, all the semi-final games will be interesting and people will try to follow more European leagues from the semi-finals. Expect Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen to qualify for the Europa League final this season and Liverpool to win the title by defeating Bayer Leverkusen in the final match.

However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.

Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.

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April 12, 2024, 02:50:05 PM
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Two games in the Europa League didn't end as I expected.I didn't expect both Milan and Liverpool to lose.Milan lost 1-0 at home against Roma, making it difficult for them to qualify.Of course, all is not lost for Milan, but it's not normal for them to lose at home when they are in such good form.It's their fault that they couldn't take advantage of so many scoring chances in the match, but Roma's away win may have been more than enough to open the door for them.
Liverpool, on the other hand, lost by 3 goals at home against Atalanta, making it really difficult for them.Although they played a better game than their opponents in the match, they were unlucky in front of goal, which led to them not scoring and conceding goals.I don't know if Liverpool can pass the round away, but they have a really difficult job.Liverpool can win by at least 3 goals away from home and maybe take it to extra time.
Milan had a real shot. They've been playing well, and to fall short at home, with a chance to build a serious advantage? It's a missed opportunity. Still, they showed they can get dangerous, they just gotta convert those chances. The away leg won't be a walk in the park

Liverpool, though...that's a harder situation. Honestly, the scoreline's flattering. It was one of those nights; bounces go the wrong way, nothing falls, and it spirals. Sure, they created stuff, but Atalanta defended like their lives depended on it. Turning this around? That's a mountain to climb. Klopp's gonna need more than just intensity; they'll need a real blueprint to break this defense down

These are European giants with proud histories. They both have the quality to bounce back, but these first-leg results leave them with serious work to do

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April 12, 2024, 02:54:10 PM
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This season in the European League we are considering Liverpool as the favorite team as much as Bayer Leverkusen. In our discussion it emerged that Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will qualify for this Europa League final. The Europa League quarter-final matches won't be as exciting because of how predictable the results are when a weak side is pitted against a strong opponent. Even if people don't watch the quarter-final games that way, all the semi-final games will be interesting and people will try to follow more European leagues from the semi-finals. Expect Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen to qualify for the Europa League final this season and Liverpool to win the title by defeating Bayer Leverkusen in the final match.

However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.

Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.

Liverpool losing to Atlanta 0-3 on Anfield is one of the most surprising result of this year. Liverpool was supposed to dominate Europa league along with Leverkusen. But seems like Leverkusen would not likely meet Liverpool now. Having a 3 goal advantage and playing next leg on Italy, Atlanta would go on full defense and qualify for the semis.
On another surprise, AC Milan vs Roma played in Milan leading to 1 goal advantage to Roma may lead to Roma being qualified for the semis.

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April 12, 2024, 03:01:03 PM
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I have been watching the match and i can see Liverpool defensive lines did some of several mistakes during the match and it was suffering conceded 3 goals and Liverpool front lines also performing poorly because the players such as Nunez or Mo Salah was unable to utilized every opportunities to scores so this is very unsatisfied result from Liverpool because before this match mostly people were very confident Liverpool will be able to win this match because they are as champion candidate but apparently the predictions were missed because in fact Liverpool lost

Actually i have been discuss about this match before because Atalanta is tough team and cannot be underestimate moreover Liverpool has poor records at Anfield while against Italian teams even on season 2020 Atalanta can able to overcomes Liverpool with final scores 2-0 and today Atalanta can repeat that result again even they can win with 3-0 and as a Liverpool fans i am very dissapoint to see Liverpool performance yesterday and second leg will be held at Atalanta home ground and if want to advances to the semifinal then Liverpool have to win at least 4-0 and actually Klopp is very optimistic but i highly doubt Liverpool can able to do that

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April 12, 2024, 03:02:28 PM
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However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.

Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.
It's not just that Liverpool has little chance of advancing to the semifinals, I even think that there is almost no possibility for Liverpool, losing by 3 goals at a time makes it almost impossible for the Liverpool team to turn things around in the second leg when they play against Atalanta.
What happened was a big surprise, no one expected that Liverpool would lose by a big score at home.

Leverkusen played in the first leg and they have gained very valuable capital to look at the second leg later, winning 2 goals in the first leg and in terms of quality it is also clear that Leverkusen is much better than West Ham so I think no one doubts Leverkusen to win easily. advanced to the semifinals.

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April 12, 2024, 03:06:11 PM
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This season in the European League we are considering Liverpool as the favorite team as much as Bayer Leverkusen. In our discussion it emerged that Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will qualify for this Europa League final. The Europa League quarter-final matches won't be as exciting because of how predictable the results are when a weak side is pitted against a strong opponent. Even if people don't watch the quarter-final games that way, all the semi-final games will be interesting and people will try to follow more European leagues from the semi-finals. Expect Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen to qualify for the Europa League final this season and Liverpool to win the title by defeating Bayer Leverkusen in the final match.
However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.
Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.
Liverpool losing to Atlanta 0-3 on Anfield is one of the most surprising result of this year. Liverpool was supposed to dominate Europa league along with Leverkusen. But seems like Leverkusen would not likely meet Liverpool now. Having a 3 goal advantage and playing next leg on Italy, Atlanta would go on full defense and qualify for the semis.
On another surprise, AC Milan vs Roma played in Milan leading to 1 goal advantage to Roma may lead to Roma being qualified for the semis.

I agree with you. It was Liverpool's most surprising result this season. And none of us expected such strange results. Liverpool lost 3-0 at home. Liverpool's strong defense is completely broken in this match.



In this match if  we are comparing the performance of both teams it can be seen that Liverpool dominated the match. But the interesting thing is that even after dominating the match, Liverpool players could not score a single goal. Liverpool have 70% ball possession. Liverpool players made a total of 19 shots. Even then, Liverpool could not break the defense of Atalanta.

Had Salah been included in the starting XI, the outcome of the match might have been different. In the first half, Liverpool's attack did not play well. And this is why Atalanta's players become more confident. And that's why we saw a better performance from Atalanta's players in the second half.

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This season in the European League we are considering Liverpool as the favorite team as much as Bayer Leverkusen. In our discussion it emerged that Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen will qualify for this Europa League final. The Europa League quarter-final matches won't be as exciting because of how predictable the results are when a weak side is pitted against a strong opponent. Even if people don't watch the quarter-final games that way, all the semi-final games will be interesting and people will try to follow more European leagues from the semi-finals. Expect Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen to qualify for the Europa League final this season and Liverpool to win the title by defeating Bayer Leverkusen in the final match.

However, if you look at the results in the first leg, where Liverpool lost 0-3, even though they were playing at home. I think Liverpool no longer has a big chance of qualifying for the semifinals or even more so the final. Their opportunities are not yet completely exhausted but it is clear that it will be a very tough struggle for Liverpool. Recently, Atalanta has not been playing well enough in Serie A but they still tend to be dangerous when playing at home.

Meanwhile, for Bayer Leverkusen, it looks like they will have it easy path to making it to the final because their performance is truly promising. Whoever the enemy is, it is likely that Leverkusen will always be ready to face their opponent.

Liverpool losing to Atlanta 0-3 on Anfield is one of the most surprising result of this year. Liverpool was supposed to dominate Europa league along with Leverkusen. But seems like Leverkusen would not likely meet Liverpool now. Having a 3 goal advantage and playing next leg on Italy, Atlanta would go on full defense and qualify for the semis.
On another surprise, AC Milan vs Roma played in Milan leading to 1 goal advantage to Roma may lead to Roma being qualified for the semis.
You know that these Italian clubs are more into defensive play pattern, and that is what will happen when Liverpool will face them in Italy. It will be a difficult task for Liverpool and I don't see anything good coming out from that match for Liverpool.

The reason is that they could not tale advantage of the chance of playing at home yesterday, and utilize that opportunity, but rather Klopp gambled with it by using players on the bench to start the match. I have no pity for them, as they deserved what they got.

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Had Salah been included in the starting XI, the outcome of the match might have been different. In the first half, Liverpool's attack did not play well. And this is why Atalanta's players become more confident. And that's why we saw a better performance from Atalanta's players in the second half.
I don't think if Salah was chosen for a start squad, this match can be different too much. Salah was sent in since a start of second half but he failed to help Liverpool. Generally after return from his injury, Salah does not have too good performances for Liverpool. He did not have good sense of space and his sensitiveness in his shots was lower than before.

Salah looks to need more time to return his best performances but this season comes to the ending weeks and Liverpool no longer control their chances in Europa League and Premier League.

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Had Salah been included in the starting XI, the outcome of the match might have been different. In the first half, Liverpool's attack did not play well. And this is why Atalanta's players become more confident. And that's why we saw a better performance from Atalanta's players in the second half.
I don't think if Salah was chosen for a start squad, this match can be different too much. Salah was sent in since a start of second half but he failed to rescue Liverpool. Generally after return from his injury, Salah does not have too good performances for Liverpool. He did not have good sense of space and his sensitiveness in his shots was lower than before.

Salah looks to need more time to return his best performances but this season comes to the ending weeks and Liverpool no longer control their chances in Europa League and Premier League.
Mohammed Salah wouldn't be the only Liverpool player on the pitch if the club manager Jurgen Klopp had selected him to start the first leg of their UEFA Europa League quarter finals tie against Atalanta last night and that's why I wouldn't want to believe that the reason why Liverpool were disappointingly beaten at home last night was because of his absence in the starting XI. Liverpool as team were very poor last night and the words of the club manager Jurgen Klopp at the end of the game strongly backs my claim. I think the team had already underestimated the strength of their opponents before the game so weren't expecting the shock they got last night.
Now they have a mountain to climb when they travel to Italy for the second leg of the tie because the Atalanta we all saw last night would never want to lose after leading the first leg with a three goal deficit.

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which surprised many fans because Liverpool is one of the favorite teams because their performance is quite stable. but in a match like that it can't be predicted. Maybe losing by 1 goal to Atalanta is still acceptable, but losing by 3 goals without reply even when they really dominated the match, is very disappointing.
even after Klopp's efforts to replace several players by including Salah, Jota and Diaz. it doesn't change the results. I don't know what's wrong with Liverpool, but being 3 goals behind will be quite difficult for them in the second leg. all they can do is maybe equalize the score in the second leg. but it sure was hard work.

Sorry, most of you forgot something. not always a strong, stable, well-established team always wins the match. the proof, Liverpool fell at Anfield to Atalanta. Isn't this proof that football is unique and the results are sometimes surprising and don't match expectations? In fact, we can look at the battle between Liverpool and Atalanta from various angles, but the result is still the same, even though Liverpool lost. on the contrary, I saw it since Liverpool competed fiercely in the Premier League. therefore, Liverpool can slip up at any time as their focus is split into two parts.

In this match, Kloop tried to play with the available players, resting several key players for the Premier League. but what can I do, Atalanta was able to surprise Liverpool. even, in front of the Red supporters themselves. In the second half, Kloop tried to bring on Moh Salah, Diaz, Jota, but was unable to change the situation. Liverpool have been losing since Atlanta broke through Liverpool's goal. now, is not the time to lament the loss to Atlanta. However, how will Jurgen Kloop's team return to its best performance and turn things around in the second leg? Even though it's not an easy job, Kloop still wants to be involved in this competition. what is certain is that he will maximize his team. However, the effects of fatigue can be influential when they enter the match in the Premier League after fighting in the second leg. We'll see how Kloop will take his team.

Apart from that, I still haven't heard some comments about AC Milan which quoted my previous post. However, we'll see and wait what happens in the second leg.


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April 12, 2024, 03:35:46 PM
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Big loss for Liverpool. This will have an effect on their league form as well as they will start to doubt themselves. If they lost at home to Atalanta, what is stopping Crystal Palace from visiting in the weekend and leaving with something as well? Klopp has a big job to get his team out of the ditch and focus them on the match ahead and also rebuild their confidence.

The revere fixture will be very exciting to watch.

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The mistake Klopp made was to underestimate Atalanta, believing that his second team players could beat Atalanta since they have proven to be good in some of the matches he had them play in PL matches when Liverpool's top players were on injuries. However, the second team didn't deliver as expected of them, I wonder what strategy Klopp will decide to use when Liverpool faces Atalanta on Thursday after they played against Crystal Palace on Sunday.
It will be too bad if Liverpool wins Atalanta with more than 3 goals and also loses to lift the Premier League title which they are giving all their best to, to lift it

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Is incredible how competitive and hard is the football world today, for example we see right now Liverpool is having a sensationals eason until this week, when they lose some points for Premier LEague and after that they suffer this horrible lose for Europa LEague, in only one week seems like all the built in the season is gonna fall apart for only 2 matches, incredible.
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