25/26 European basketball discussion: Euroleague/BBL/ACB/LegaA/LNB/TBL..

[mandown]

In the FIBA ​​Champions League match between Hapoel Holon and Trapani, Trapani was forced to play with only two players on the court at one point. Trapani's weekend game had also been cancelled due to financial difficulties. I was shocked when I saw the video on social media. How could FIBA ​​allow something like this? I think it's a huge scandal. The game stopped when the score was 37-5, but it will probably be registered as 38-5.

I followed the match a little bit cause when I saw the live score I wondered wtf is going on there. Trapani is basically done financially and after the cancellation last weekend the writing on was on the wall for this game last night. I mean they started the whole game with only 5 players (including 2 teenagers). After some minutes Trapani took 3 players out for whatever reason which left them with 2. 1 of the guys then collected his 5th foul so they have been down to 1, hahaha.
If Trapani hadn't played they would have gotten a 600000€ fine, that's why we got this joke of a game.

They took to the field to avoid a 600,000 euro fine due to their poor financial situation, but many people were affected. The Hapoel team, its fans, the channel broadcasting the match, etc., were all among those who suffered losses.
If FIBA knew this would happen, it would have been good if they had taken precautions beforehand. I've never seen anything like this before. I also checked what happened after seeing the posts here. It's a huge scandal for FIBA. I hope such situations don't happen again.

[yenerbatmaz]

There are still many games to be played, but Anadolu Efes has almost lost hope of winning the Euroleague championship this year. Yesterday, they lost 79-84 to Paris Basket in Istanbul. Paris Basket is not a good team and is low in the Euroleague standings. Anadolu Efes needed to beat them, but they couldn't. They played very poorly in the last quarter and lost.

Saben Lee had a good performance with 17 points. If he continues this performance, he will be a great asset for Anadolu Efes.

Yesterday, there was again strong opposition to Sporting Director İsmail Şenol. Fans demanded his resignation.

When there's a failure, people look for someone to blame, and right now the fans are blaming İsmail Şenol. There's a failure, but İsmail isn't the only one responsible. If he were a wealthy businessman, he wouldn't receive this much backlash, but because he once worked as a basketball commentator, it's easy for the fans to criticize him now. İsmail Şenol certainly made mistakes. I think his biggest mistake was Banchi's departure at the end of last season. (I don't know the reason, but) if Banchi hadn't left, Anadolu Efes wouldn't be in this position now. They would be in the top 8.

[püsür]

In the EL they have the same amount of losses as 1st place and in the domestic league they are also in the top 3. Guess in the end it will be a typical Fenerbahce season, despite the kinda rough start.

I actually came here to write something very similar. After the departure of Nigel Hayes Davis and Guduric, also McCollum who performed great despite his age, I thought Fener's job is hard. And they started the season struggling. I thought even Jasikevicius cannot save them maybe. But their team chemistry and playing style is something else. I have huge respect for them about how they turned things around. Baldwin, Hall and Melli are just great players. They maybe lacked a point guard who can read the game good and they got De Colo, who has played great despite his age. I watched almost all of Fener's games and recently they played like the biggest contender again. I can't see anyone who can beat them in the F4. Hopefully not Hapoel.

[Distraction]

This was the 4th loss in a row for Anadolu Efes in the Euroleague. This time it was against Paris Basketball home by 5 points... I really don't know what to say about them. They are just terrible you know. 

The same problems are still seen. They have so many turnovers. They are always ready to make simple mistakes. They still don't make the necessary kind of signings either.

Then how are they planning to recover from this horrible situation?

[Uhde]

This was the 4th loss in a row for Anadolu Efes in the Euroleague. This time it was against Paris Basketball home by 5 points... I really don't know what to say about them. They are just terrible you know. 

The same problems are still seen. They have so many turnovers. They are always ready to make simple mistakes. They still don't make the necessary kind of signings either.

Then how are they planning to recover from this horrible situation?

Anadolu Efes is very weak on offense. In EuroLeague, defense is not enough you need to score more points but they play with very low percentages. as you told the biggest problem is not just teamwork but too many easy turnovers. For example, Ercan made 5 turnovers in the Paris match. A role player like him does not have the luxury to make these mistakes at this level. Also, they give away too many offensive rebounds because of bad coordination.

[ajanwalker]

My worst fear came true. We lost to Dubai Basket.
This year, Dubai Basket has beaten us in both games.
I know Dubai is very successful at home, but they also beat us in Türkiye.
If they perform well away from home, they will be at the top of the standings.
Melli played 26 minutes yesterday but didn't score a single point. If we had received some scoring contribution from Melli, we wouldn't have lost.

[Uhde]

My worst fear came true. We lost to Dubai Basket.
This year, Dubai Basket has beaten us in both games.
I know Dubai is very successful at home, but they also beat us in Türkiye.
If they perform well away from home, they will be at the top of the standings.
Melli played 26 minutes yesterday but didn't score a single point. If we had received some scoring contribution from Melli, we wouldn't have lost.

Losses happen when the schedule is this tight. Giving 28 offensive rebounds cost Fenerbahce the game. It was both a loss and the game was also very boring this time. They cut the lead to 4 points but then gave a simple rebound and conceded a lucky three pointer. The game was over right there. shit happens...

[AHOYBRAUSE]

My worst fear came true. We lost to Dubai Basket.
This year, Dubai Basket has beaten us in both games.
I know Dubai is very successful at home, but they also beat us in Türkiye.
If they perform well away from home, they will be at the top of the standings.
Melli played 26 minutes yesterday but didn't score a single point. If we had received some scoring contribution from Melli, we wouldn't have lost.

Every win Dubai gets is a pain for me actually. Too bad Fenerbahce suffered that loss, they also didn't really look like they had a chance. Sure, in the first half it was fairly close and it sometimes went back and forth, from the 2md half though Dubai really had total control.

Dubai btw didn't get 28 offensive rebounds, guess you skipped a line cause that was the number on defense. Still, on offense having 14:4 in rebounds really is a big gap. Many of those were followed up with fouls as well which sent Dubai to the line for easy points.

Thankfully Dubai is still out of the playoff (playin) ranks, hopefully they will follow up this win with a couple of losses. 

[LTU_btc]

Efes had solid 1st half against Olimpia Milano, but how they entered after halftime is ridiculous. Wasting double digit lead in few minutes and losiong 3rd quarter 24:8. While Olimpia had no right to lose this game because club is marking their 90th. Sadly, Giorgio Armani is no longerwith us to mark this anniversary.
Zalgiris destroyed Crvena Zvezda by 32 points. Considering that they're direct competitors for playoff spots, it's big statement.
Nothing new for Partizan. They only played goood 1st quarter and that's all. After this win Barca have 14 wins and 4 teams is sharing 1st-4th places - Hapoel, Monaco, Barcelona and Valencia.

Thankfully Dubai is still out of the playoff (playin) ranks, hopefully they will follow up this win with a couple of losses. 

Dubai looks better than I expected, but still I don't see them (or I don't want to see) as playoff or play-in team. Saw lot of their games just because they're playing in earlier slot where no other teams isn't playing and only way to get some atmosphere in their arena if there is some fans of away team.

[ajanwalker]

Anadolu Efes lost again. Saben Lee is performing far beyond my expectations. He contributed 19 points in this game. I don't know if Pablo Laso is a good choice.
He has a history full of successes, but since he arrived, he only has one win against Zalgiris. We are watching an Anadolu Efes team that has consistently lost in the other 5 games. I hope Anadolu Efes can achieve a winning streak in the remaining matches.

A team with two Euroleague championships shouldn't be near the bottom of the standings.

[emrecemsan]

Efes had solid 1st half against Olimpia Milano, but how they entered after halftime is ridiculous. Wasting double digit lead in few minutes and losiong 3rd quarter 24:8. While Olimpia had no right to lose this game because club is marking their 90th. Sadly, Giorgio Armani is no longerwith us to mark this anniversary.

Indeed Anadolu Efes looked really good in the 1st half. But they couldn't answer a 12-0 series right at the beginning of Q3. After that they were never able to get comfortable.

Another series like 11-0 in the first minutes of Q4 just finished them off... Saben Lee really impressed again in his 2nd Euroleague game there. However they couldn't stop Armoni Brooks from scoring 31 points just like that. He scored 7 three pointers...

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Efes had solid 1st half against Olimpia Milano, but how they entered after halftime is ridiculous. Wasting double digit lead in few minutes and losiong 3rd quarter 24:8. While Olimpia had no right to lose this game because club is marking their 90th. Sadly, Giorgio Armani is no longerwith us to mark this anniversary.

Indeed Anadolu Efes looked really good in the 1st half. But they couldn't answer a 12-0 series right at the beginning of Q3. After that they were never able to get comfortable.

Another series like 11-0 in the first minutes of Q4 just finished them off... Saben Lee really impressed again in his 2nd Euroleague game there. However they couldn't stop Armoni Brooks from scoring 31 points just like that. He scored 7 three pointers...

Really baffling to see Efes struggle that hard. I mean ok, in the Euroleague life is hard anyway, but standing at 8:6 and 9th place in Turkey is a different story. Tonight they will play at 2:12 last place Buyukcekmece, if they would lose this game as well, which I honestly doubt, maybe there is nothing to safe for them this season. They have a solid (but not great) roster, they should occasionally get a win, right? But they way they perform now is just not understandable.

[emrecemsan]

Really baffling to see Efes struggle that hard. I mean ok, in the Euroleague life is hard anyway, but standing at 8:6 and 9th place in Turkey is a different story. Tonight they will play at 2:12 last place Buyukcekmece, if they would lose this game as well, which I honestly doubt, maybe there is nothing to safe for them this season. They have a solid (but not great) roster, they should occasionally get a win, right? But they way they perform now is just not understandable.

This is their 50th anniversary and literally they are having their worst year in the recent years.    This is the worst way to "celebrate" a kind of special time period for them.

The team is managed horrible now. Some action needs to be taken immediately. İsmail Şenol who is their sporting director is right at the centre of the criticism recently.

I don't find their roster impressive enough. Fenerbahçe is much better at player signings for example. I hope the board don't blame it on the coach in a short time...

[ajanwalker]

Real Madrid has decided to leave the EuroLeague and join NBA Europe. I didn't like that decision at all. I don't like Real Madrid at all, but I would have liked them to be in the EuroLeague. Asvel will also not be in the EuroLeague from next year onwards.

I wonder if Europe can handle two major leagues.

[LGD2Business]

It was a very tough game, but Beşiktaş managed to defeat the leader away from home. JL Bourg suffered their third loss. The gap has narrowed to one game. Beşiktaş made significant progress toward finishing in the top 2 in the group stage.
Zizic shone with 26 points. He was very dominant under the basket. Mathews was effective as usual. Lemar's scoring contribution from the bench was valuable.
Türk Telekom also defeated London Lions. Today was a good day for Turkish teams. Türk Telekom maintains its third place position.

There are 4 weeks left until the end of the group stage in the EuroCup. JL Bourg and Beşiktaş look set to finish in the top 2. Other teams will also be aiming for a good spot in the play-offs.

[LTU_btc]

Partizan showing zero improvement under Penarroya. Getting humiliated by almost 40 points at home is beyond shameful. Not sure it's related with poor results, but this Partizan game was moved to smaller arena and it was far from being full.

Real Madrid has decided to leave the EuroLeague and join NBA Europe. I didn't like that decision at all. I don't like Real Madrid at all, but I would have liked them to be in the EuroLeague. Asvel will also not be in the EuroLeague from next year onwards.

I wonder if Europe can handle two major leagues.

It's only rumours and they're not talking about signed contract, they're only in advanced talks. I'm very sceptical about NBA Europe project, not really sure who is going to play there when almost all big clubs have lenghty contracts with Euroleague. Recently Barcasigned new 10 year contract with Euroleague.

[Stavri]

Anadolu Efes keeps losing. Baskonia won todays game and it is really disappointing. Last year, Efes almost made it to the Final Four but this year the performance is very bad. How can Baskonia beat Efes so easily? Anadolu Efes was a real school of basketball. Also this year is the 50th anniversary of the club. This kind of season does not suit a team like Efes.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Anadolu Efes keeps losing. Baskonia won todays game and it is really disappointing. Last year, Efes almost made it to the Final Four but this year the performance is very bad. How can Baskonia beat Efes so easily? Anadolu Efes was a real school of basketball. Also this year is the 50th anniversary of the club. This kind of season does not suit a team like Efes.

I mean at this point, is it even a surprise anymore? Losing against another struggling team like Baskonia in this kind of fashion is just weak. Sure, they had all the chances but a -16 point last quarter? Come on man, not at home. Seems like they have given up and don't believe in the team anymore. They should make a hard reset, start offering contracts to new players and try to build a team for next season. Even in the domestic league the some days ago they almost lost against 2:13 last place Buyukcekmece, quite embarrassing.

[yenerbatmaz]

Anadolu Efes continued its losing streak, this time losing to Baskonia 75-89. Actually, everything started well, but the last quarter was a disaster. After the game, Pablo Laso also emphasized the last quarter, calling it a shameful situation. The fans once again called for İsmail Şenol's resignation. I don't know how much longer the young manager can withstand these reactions. The team is currently in a very bad mental state.

[karabiber]

The Fenerbahçe-Valencia match is one of the best matches of the week. Nando De Colo's arrival will increase the potential in attack. However, Chris Silva's injury was a major setback. Fenerbahçe, who looked tired at the end of the double week, will have a chance to rest a little more by staying at home.

Fenerbahçe ended their four-game winning streak in Dubai and now wants to continue their two-game winning streak at home. Moreover, they want to make up for the Valencia defeat in week 7 and, if possible, even the head-to-head record. Because both teams are contenders for the top four and there is only one win separating them. Valencia has won three of their last four away games. They are a dangerous team. They will want to make up for their home defeat to Monaco. It is important for Fenerbahçe to control the tempo and defend well. Undoubtedly, controlling the rebounds will also affect the result. Fenerbahçe does not lose at home.