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[Lakai01]

I laughed when I saw the Real Socidad vs Girona match end, at first I was happy because Real Socidad was ahead and scored an early goal, but in the end Girona responded and Girona won narrowly in this match, LOL maybe I will make another parlay bet with the remaining money

Unfortunately, that's the problem with multi bets: even with lots of small odds, there's no guarantee that they'll all actually be successful. It's also important to note that with each additional bet, the probability of losing the bet increases enormously, which is why I usually only have 3 to a maximum of 5 games in my combination bets; I've never actually had more than that. The odds are then slightly lower, but the chance of winning is (significantly) higher.

As far as I know, Whale does not offer a bonus if you include more than 5 bets in a multi bet, which might otherwise be an incentive to include more teams in the bet.

Good luck with your new bet, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

[Etranger]

Finally, the story with the loothbox opening worked for me in a positive way and brought some visible result. I decided not to take risks and to take the prize in cash, but in the end I placed this amount on a combo sports bet and now I am waiting for the result. If it works out, I will have a x3.2 return, which I am of course really hoping for. These few minutes before the match results are so nerve racking. By the way, I have never won a combo bet before, so I am also looking forward to this first time.

[mv1986]

Hey guys, it has been a while, but here you go: It wasn't a success actually, but I did some wagering again to gather more $WHALE and open some boxes.



I have always tried to find out when the $WHALE token will go officially, but got over it again. Are there any updates for that? I am not sure I overlooked it somewhere, but as far as I understand everything is still in planning phase?

[Dr.Osh]

I laughed when I saw the Real Socidad vs Girona match end, at first I was happy because Real Socidad was ahead and scored an early goal, but in the end Girona responded and Girona won narrowly in this match, LOL maybe I will make another parlay bet with the remaining money

Unfortunately, that's the problem with multi bets: even with lots of small odds, there's no guarantee that they'll all actually be successful. It's also important to note that with each additional bet, the probability of losing the bet increases enormously, which is why I usually only have 3 to a maximum of 5 games in my combination bets; I've never actually had more than that. The odds are then slightly lower, but the chance of winning is (significantly) higher.

As far as I know, Whale does not offer a bonus if you include more than 5 bets in a multi bet, which might otherwise be an incentive to include more teams in the bet.

Good luck with your new bet, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

If Arsenal wins, only one loses. How annoying is that? And in my new bet, I'm not sure Getafe will win against Espanyol because Espanyol is dominating the match. It's so annoying. Several teams have won and then lost again. LOL I should have split it into 3 parlay bets. Arsenal and Getafe. I can't wait to see their final results.

[Agbamoni]

Liverpool to win the Premier League.

The idea is to take advantage of 30x odds, but hedge my bets by making weekly side bets on Arsenal and Man City.

I have a feeling that with Gakpo's injury and Salah's move to Afcon, Ekitiké, Isak, and Wirtz will get a boost from increased minutes, and all three will return to full fitness faster.

Liverpool to win the Premier League is still very much possible. Though the point difference between them and Arsenal is 10 points, and 5 points below Manchester City.

Salah is a consistent player, the AFCON wont have any effect on him unless he gets injured along the line. Isak and Ekitike starting in a game disrupts the performance of Ekitike, as seen in several games.

[Lakai01]

Liverpool to win the Premier League is still very much possible. Though the point difference between them and Arsenal is 10 points, and 5 points below Manchester City.

Salah is a consistent player, the AFCON wont have any effect on him unless he gets injured along the line. Isak and Ekitike starting in a game disrupts the performance of Ekitike, as seen in several games.

I (really!) appreciate your optimism about Liverpool's title chances despite the 10-point gap to Arsenal and 5 to Manchester City. Salah's consistency is a key asset, and barring injury during AFCON, he could drive a comeback. However, the Isak-Ekitike dynamic you mentioned highlights squad inconsistencies that might hinder them. Current odds reflect the challenge: Liverpool stands at around x30 across major online bookmakers:


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This implies just a ~3% implied probability. Of course, there's still a lot possible, but if so, Liverpool needs to get their act together right now, otherwise Arsenal will probably be out of reach.

[NeuroticFish]

I don't really play big amounts, but I'm still having fun. And this weekend was good - the French Ligue 1 was going as expected and today I even had time to play my favorite games at the casino:

[Agbamoni]

I don't really play big amounts, but I'm still having fun. And this weekend was good - the French Ligue 1 was going as expected and today I even had time to play my favorite games at the casino:

You truly were just having fun here. Probably not after the profit, but for the sake of betting.

Imagine you added the two games in one parlay, the odds will be bigger, plus an odd bonus. And your profit will be bigger if you combine the stakes.

However, what is more important is that you had your fun  

[Lakai01]

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Imagine you added the two games in one parlay, the odds will be bigger, plus an odd bonus. And your profit will be bigger if you combine the stakes.

You are absolutely right – combining these two tips into a combination bet would have significantly increased the chances of winning, often with an additional bonus from the bookmaker, resulting in a much higher potential payout for the same stake.

However, ultimately it is always about the fun: analysing the games, placing the bets and enjoying the excitement ... And, unfortunately for me, far too often... losing bets that I thought were sure things

[icopress]

I (really!) appreciate your optimism about Liverpool's title chances despite the 10-point gap to Arsenal and 5 to Manchester City. Salah's consistency is a key asset, and barring injury during AFCON, he could drive a comeback. However, the Isak-Ekitike dynamic you mentioned highlights squad inconsistencies that might hinder them. Current odds reflect the challenge: Liverpool stands at around x30 across major online bookmakers:



This implies just a ~3% implied probability. Of course, there's still a lot possible, but if so, Liverpool needs to get their act together right now, otherwise Arsenal will probably be out of reach.

Wow, what's this site?

Not long ago, notblox1 asked me about something similar, but I couldn't help him because I'd never even seen this kind of comparison site before.

[Lakai01]

Wow, what's this site?

This site is https://www.oddschecker.com. There, the odds from many different bookmakers are compared with each other, and this applies to (almost) all kinds of "betable" common sports.

Long-term odds—such as league wins—are usually freely available. However, if you want to access short-term odds or odds that can change in real time, you have to sign up for a premium account, which is not that cheap. But for quick cross-checks, such as the question I answered, the site is great!

[slaman29]

Thanks for the freebet

I tried to look at the requirements and it didn't say anything about odds or combos etc, but I discovered if I tried to make it multibet the freebet options disappeared Does anybody know?

So I just went to put the freebet on a simple game of PSG lol GL to me

[Etranger]

I received a free bet from Whale yesterday and played it very successfully. I just did not understand how it was calculated, because my odds were 2.00, but the winnings came out to exactly fifty dollars, the same as the face value of the free bet. Still, I was happy. However later I lost that money. I decided to buy free spins in a slot game, but they turned out to be completely unsuccessful. Still, thanks to Whale casino for the free bet.

[Sanitough]

I received a free bet from Whale yesterday and played it very successfully. I just did not understand how it was calculated, because my odds were 2.00, but the winnings came out to exactly fifty dollars, the same as the face value of the free bet. Still, I was happy. However later I lost that money. I decided to buy free spins in a slot game, but they turned out to be completely unsuccessful. Still, thanks to Whale casino for the free bet.

That’s just how free bets work. They don’t count the stake itself. So the computation is basically like this: you bet $50 as a free bet, at x2 odds that should be $100. But since the $50 stake is free, they take that back. So $100 minus $50, you end up with $50. That’s what you actually get.

You’re even lucky to get a $50 free bet. In my experience, it’s usually just $10 or even less. Most of the time I just use it on a parlay anyway, which usually doesn’t win.

[Lakai01]

I received a free bet from Whale yesterday and played it very successfully. I just did not understand how it was calculated, because my odds were 2.00, but the winnings came out to exactly fifty dollars, the same as the face value of the free bet. Still, I was happy. However later I lost that money. I decided to buy free spins in a slot game, but they turned out to be completely unsuccessful. Still, thanks to Whale casino for the free bet.

This confused me at first, but it becomes clear once you understand the background.

If you win, you receive the net winnings (excluding the original free bet stake). In your case, with odds of 2.00 and a free bet of $50: Possible payout: $50 stake × 2.00 = $100  
Credit of winnings: $100 – $50 stake = $50 winnings

This is indeed standard practice for most free bet offers (giveaways, games here on the forum, ...) in order to prevent direct payouts of the stake. Only your winnings become real credit that you can (re-)use (or withdraw).

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I received a free bet from Whale yesterday and played it very successfully. I just did not understand how it was calculated, because my odds were 2.00, but the winnings came out to exactly fifty dollars, the same as the face value of the free bet. Still, I was happy. However later I lost that money. I decided to buy free spins in a slot game, but they turned out to be completely unsuccessful. Still, thanks to Whale casino for the free bet.

This confused me at first, but it becomes clear once you understand the background.

If you win, you receive the net winnings (excluding the original free bet stake). In your case, with odds of 2.00 and a free bet of $50: Possible payout: $50 stake × 2.00 = $100  
Credit of winnings: $100 – $50 stake = $50 winnings

This is indeed standard practice for most free bet offers (giveaways, games here on the forum, ...) in order to prevent direct payouts of the stake. Only your winnings become real credit that you can (re-)use (or withdraw).

Yeah pretty straight forward. What I wonder his though, how did he manage to get a 50$ free bet? I also want one please, haha. Mostly I lose my free bets though, I think last time, like a month ago when I got one, was actually the first time on whale that a free bet of mine actually won. Just not lucky enough unfortunately. 

[Etranger]

I received a free bet from Whale yesterday and played it very successfully. I just did not understand how it was calculated, because my odds were 2.00, but the winnings came out to exactly fifty dollars, the same as the face value of the free bet. Still, I was happy. However later I lost that money. I decided to buy free spins in a slot game, but they turned out to be completely unsuccessful. Still, thanks to Whale casino for the free bet.

This confused me at first, but it becomes clear once you understand the background.

If you win, you receive the net winnings (excluding the original free bet stake). In your case, with odds of 2.00 and a free bet of $50: Possible payout: $50 stake × 2.00 = $100  
Credit of winnings: $100 – $50 stake = $50 winnings

This is indeed standard practice for most free bet offers (giveaways, games here on the forum, ...) in order to prevent direct payouts of the stake. Only your winnings become real credit that you can (re-)use (or withdraw).

Now I understand, thank you for the explanation Lakai01. I had simply never won with free bets before, so this calculation was not familiar to me earlier. In any case, it was nice that the bet turned out to be a winning one. I should have stopped there, but I did not listen to that voice of reason and kept playing. After that things were no longer so lucky for me, and I lost that win.

[Lakai01]

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Now I understand, thank you for the explanation Lakai01. I had simply never won with free bets before, so this calculation was not familiar to me earlier. In any case, it was nice that the bet turned out to be a winning one. I should have stopped there, but I did not listen to that voice of reason and kept playing. After that things were no longer so lucky for me, and I lost that win.

Sure, you're welcome! The calculation of free bet winnings often confuses players, and you often see questions about this here. I think I even saw a negative review on Trustpilot about this ages ago...

I usually gamble away my winnings straight away and normally only withdraw amounts that give me a profit of over $100... which, unfortunately, has been rather rare lately.

[Peanutswar]

I know when it comes to deep analysis we get better understanding of a team and its position and now with the help of AI it's getting easier, however even by taking help of AI systems one can still get many losses because AI also gathers data from online sites or from predictions of other influencers and such information is not always accurate and can lead to losses.

Yes, of course. But I didn't mean that using AI automatically guarantees a win in sports betting.

However, AI does take a lot of the work out of analyzing upcoming games. I used to invest a lot of time analyzing which games to bet on and how. Nowadays, you can easily outsource this to AI, which gives you a summary of the most important events of the last week(s), allowing you to make your decisions based on this information and eliminating the need to spend hours trawling through various news portals.

AI is one of the powerful tools nowadays its easier now to take a look for the data and statistics of the team you would like to check for the potential win. Again its just a tool and not a way to let decide with your bets. Before you must need to check some of the websites supports with the different stats of the player such as their previous matches, players manage to score and to goal with the match also even their upcoming matches. Now with the help of the AI it can summarize the game in just a single prompt so you can get an idea which team has a potential wins. But if you use the AI to let decide which and where to bet I guess thats I will against on it, not all games are base on stats sometimes because of the draft and players how they will play the game so its still good if you have a good understanding and knowledge about the game as an advantage.

[Lakai01]

But if you use the AI to let decide which and where to bet I guess thats I will against on it, not all games are base on stats sometimes because of the draft and players how they will play the game so its still good if you have a good understanding and knowledge about the game as an advantage.

We have a prediction game for the German Bundesliga running in our German-speaking Bitcointalk community. One of the co-posters also compiles weekly evaluations of how well the AI would have performed with its predictions. The AI normally ranks in the middle of the pack in terms of points per round, but has never won a round so far.

So, as you rightly say, it's a nice tool that makes the preliminary analysis much easier. But it's far from being a magical tool with a 100% chance of winning... which is a good thing