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[Trofo]

Hey everyone! I finally signed up, I actually knew about it from before but forgot to sign up so thank you for the reminder.

I'm Spain all the way, they are not even top 3 favorites but I always believe in the future of youngsters and I think after decade of power, people don't see them especially after World Cup lol.

GL to everyone

Spain has been missing a proper striker for years now. It is difficult to go all the way without that killer up front who will score something from the first half chance. If you have to create 3-5 big chances for a goal you must be so much better than your opponents in every game and that is not possible on EURO.

[Rikafip]

If they pass the group matches with Spain and Italy they are going to the top this time.

Last time we were in the same group with them back was back in Euro 2012 and while we played very good against both of them (probably the best Spain ever was barely able to beat us), unfortunately we ended up 3rd in the group while those two ended up in final. Which just shows how tough Euro can be, often even tougher than WC (at least before the expansion to 24 teams).

One of the things that our national team has going for them is that no one in Croatia has any high expectation from them, there's no pressure from media or from the fans. It maybe sounds weird considering we have been successful lately, but that's how it is here.

[buwaytress]

Couldn't agree more, he is not good enough for Portugal squad that is full of talent. Yeah he can score goals, maybe he can even do it better than other players in Portugal attack but they are also losing so much on the team pressing with him in the game. He should be 15-20 minutes man for them, used in special circumstances but his ego will never allow for that.

Yeah, his finishing was (I say was as I've not watched him since leaving United) second to few, but even so, you sacrifice so much of the squad, formation, tactics to fit him in. I always think it's better to sacrifice one sure goal for 5 maybes -- especially when against better teams, where it's more like 1 sure goal for 10 maybes.

Some of his teammates are in the last years of their prime, really. Such a shame.

Germans are my favorite, they have a solid defense with likes of Tah from Bayern Leverkusen and Toni Rudiger who had a great season with Real Madrid. Joshua Kimmich included, aware he had a bad season with Bayern Munich but I know how much of a mentally strong player he's been.

In midfied they have Toni Kroos, IIkay Gundogan, Andrich, Jamal Musiala, Leroy Sane, Florian Wirtz. Damnit! It's gonna be bloody hot. Not to even forget Kai Havertz and Muller and that player Fullkrug playing for Dortmund. Hopefully Julian Nagelsmann handles them well.

Third favourites, not far off England and France, so yeah, I think it reflects the talents. But I can't help feeling the Germans believe in their own hype too much (I can't forget Rudiger's antics against Japan, it's precisely the sort of arrogance that ensures you don't win a tournament). Had Nagelsmann took the Bayern poison chalice, this team would flop hard.

Yes, but they're not taking my money. Even I am not convinced to bet on Modric's knees any more

Maybe we can get more insider information about Croatia national team from Cro2 Team Evil 

They'll just ask me to put money on rigged team, and then arbitrate when I call foul, and rule against me. Team Evil knows where the line is, and crosses it, to redraw a new line.

Just looked at odds. England the favourite? Followed by France?
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Besides the fact that they are historical losers, I can't find any cons in this team, on paper they look very strong, don't they? It’s strange that Germany is in third place, in my opinion, besides the fact that they are the hosts of the tournament, it’s difficult to find arguments in favor of the fact that they should become stronger than everyone else, this really confuses me. I’m not saying that they are not stronger than half of the euro participants, but not England, France, Spain, Italy and many who are nearby for sure.

They do. They do. And that's the bastard thing about it. France, my god, Brazil, in the last WC. So classy, so breathtaking. And invariably find a way to fumble. I think England, crucially, has always played far too timidly on the big stage. Last time I bet on them a bit too much, believing they finally were taking it home. Think it was the England-USA game where they drew, when I said to myself: "Shame on me".

[KTChampions]

Besides the fact that they are historical losers, I can't find any cons in this team, on paper they look very strong, don't they? It’s strange that Germany is in third place, in my opinion, besides the fact that they are the hosts of the tournament, it’s difficult to find arguments in favor of the fact that they should become stronger than everyone else, this really confuses me. I’m not saying that they are not stronger than half of the euro participants, but not England, France, Spain, Italy and many who are nearby for sure.

They do. They do. And that's the bastard thing about it. France, my god, Brazil, in the last WC. So classy, so breathtaking. And invariably find a way to fumble. I think England, crucially, has always played far too timidly on the big stage. Last time I bet on them a bit too much, believing they finally were taking it home. Think it was the England-USA game where they drew, when I said to myself: "Shame on me".

In any case, it is unlikely that many here will bet on the outcome of the tournament. I'm wondering if it's worth betting on the group stage at all? Taking into account the fact that there are 6 groups and in 4 groups out of 6, 3 teams will make it to the playoffs. The group stage will be similar to a warm-up and friendly games, it seems to me that here it is better to pass by or bet on a double chance on the outsider, and BTTS. What do you think?

[cryptofrka]

In any case, it is unlikely that many here will bet on the outcome of the tournament. I'm wondering if it's worth betting on the group stage at all? Taking into account the fact that there are 6 groups and in 4 groups out of 6, 3 teams will make it to the playoffs. The group stage will be similar to a warm-up and friendly games, it seems to me that here it is better to pass by or bet on a double chance on the outsider, and BTTS. What do you think?

Nah, not really. The groups are mostly easy for the top seeds, meaning that no good team wants to go slow in the group and end up 3rd - would mean a tough early challenge in the knockouts that can easily be avoided.

The odds aren't out yet so difficult to say, but I see many of the 'small' games in which the bottom seeded teams try to fight it out end up with a low number of goals. After all, international football rarely lives up to the quality we're used from the top teams.

[un_rank]

I'm wondering if it's worth betting on the group stage at all? Taking into account the fact that there are 6 groups and in 4 groups out of 6, 3 teams will make it to the playoffs. The group stage will be similar to a warm-up and friendly games, it seems to me that here it is better to pass by or bet on a double chance on the outsider, and BTTS. What do you think?

The group stages will present fewer surprises that the knockouts. Teams are more unevenly paired up so it is easier to pick the outcome, I would not favor BTTS either, not at the very early stages of the groups.

When we get to the knockouts, everyone is believing now, those that won the play-offs may get a second wind and turn up for the tournament. It is almost anyone's game at that point.

Everyone agrees Group D is the group of death right?

- Jay -

[shogun47]

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[notblox1]

Spain has been missing a proper striker for years now. It is difficult to go all the way without that killer up front who will score something from the first half chance. If you have to create 3-5 big chances for a goal you must be so much better than your opponents in every game and that is not possible on EURO.

Joselu is now here to save the Spanish national team like he saved Real.
Ideal scenario is to see him in EURO 2024 and his market value increases over 5 million  
Real is just waiting for Espanyol to finish playoffs and than they can officially sign a deal with Joselu, and he is included in 30 players for Spain but didnt play against Andorra today.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5536493/2024/06/03/real-madrid-transfers-joselu/

The squad of 23 players, with Rodrigo and Dani Olmo rested and Laporte, Nacho, Carvajal and Joselu absent, are all hoping to travel to Germany and for the passionate Extremadura fans, whose enthusiastic welcome on Tuesday will be followed with the expected full house at the Badajoz stadium.

https://rfef.es/en/noticias/preview-spain-launches-into-continental-summer-of-football

[cryptofrka]

Real is just waiting for Espanyol to finish playoffs and than they can officially sign a deal with Joselu

Yep, they have a clause to get him for like 1,5 million. Not really sure whether they will keep him or just flip him to somebody else.
They brought Mbappe and are counting on Endrick from the start, so it's already 4 positions in offensive line covered. If Joselu stays, he'll probably get some minutes.

Morata will start for Spain, that's almost guaranteed. He's their captain as well.

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I'm really looking forward to our friendly vs Portugal. Will be a great last test for the difficult group we're in.

[KTChampions]

I'm wondering if it's worth betting on the group stage at all? Taking into account the fact that there are 6 groups and in 4 groups out of 6, 3 teams will make it to the playoffs. The group stage will be similar to a warm-up and friendly games, it seems to me that here it is better to pass by or bet on a double chance on the outsider, and BTTS. What do you think?

The group stages will present fewer surprises that the knockouts. Teams are more unevenly paired up so it is easier to pick the outcome, I would not favor BTTS either, not at the very early stages of the groups.

When we get to the knockouts, everyone is believing now, those that won the play-offs may get a second wind and turn up for the tournament. It is almost anyone's game at that point.

Everyone agrees Group D is the group of death right?

- Jay -

In Group D, either Poland or Austria will be eliminated, the remaining 3 teams will move on. In general, when in almost every group 3 teams move on at once, it is quite difficult to find a group of death or a group where there will be an interesting fight. I think only fans of weak countries are happy with this format, because with some luck Hungary/Slovakia/Romania, etc. may end up in the playoffs.

[notblox1]

I'm really looking forward to our friendly vs Portugal. Will be a great last test for the difficult group we're in.

I think Croatia have good chance of going in next stage, there is a chance to go as second or maybe as third team in the group.
And match with Spain is going to be more interesting for you, maybe you see Joselu in action again  
I just checked the early odds on Croatia and they look interesting to me for asian handicap bet.


https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international/european-championship/spain-v-croatia-661fc832aafd2b0001bf2357

[Harkorede]

I'm really looking forward to our friendly vs Portugal. Will be a great last test for the difficult group we're in.

I think Croatia have good chance of going in next stage, there is a chance to go as second or maybe as third team in the group.
And match with Spain is going to be more interesting for you, maybe you see Joselu in action again  
I just checked the early odds on Croatia and they look interesting to me for asian handicap bet.


https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/soccer/international/european-championship/spain-v-croatia-661fc832aafd2b0001bf2357

A win and a good goal differential will likely be good enough for a team to advance to the next stage, given the fact that there going to be opportunities for 4 out 6 3rd placed teams to advance to to the next round, technically each underdog team's first job is not to finish at the both of the table, because if at least 2 teams finish the group stage with 1 or less point (which is very possible), any 3rd placed team with 3 points will likely advance.

And I think Spain are one of the most overrated teams for this competition, I could be wrong though, I just can't seem to find anything special about them other than future talents.

[un_rank]

In general, when in almost every group 3 teams move on at once, it is quite difficult to find a group of death or a group where there will be an interesting fight.

It may make the group stages competitive from the beginning to the end. Usually after the first 2 games, teams that will drop have already been decided and the last game will have one or two teams not giving their all. With the knowledge that you can be the best loser teams will keep fighting till the very end of tournament for a shot at qualifying.

- Jay -

[cryptofrka]

That's why I feel that the 'Group of Death' isn't really that.
You have Albania as the 4th team, and anybody with 3 points should be safe to go through as a 3rd team from the group.

When you see teams like Spain, Italy and Croatia grouped together, it might seem so - but in this format I think all 3 teams are going through.

Then again, all these teams are in a downward trajectory.

[slaman29]

Poor Albania lol. I wonder who's considered the weakest team here, I see 500x odds for 3 teams but surely one of them can be considered the weakest and a big upset if they go through the playoffs?

I personally think Croatia is the favorite of all the '3rd place' teams and that's a STRONG favorite. They may secretly like being 3rd to meet a big seed rightaway after group

[KTChampions]

In general, when in almost every group 3 teams move on at once, it is quite difficult to find a group of death or a group where there will be an interesting fight.

It may make the group stages competitive from the beginning to the end. Usually after the first 2 games, teams that will drop have already been decided and the last game will have one or two teams not giving their all. With the knowledge that you can be the best loser teams will keep fighting till the very end of tournament for a shot at qualifying.

- Jay -

This is an optimistic view of the existing format, but it seems to me that it is incorrect since this is not a round-robin tournament and things are not going at all the way we are used to watching the Champions League.
Even favorites score 75-80% of points on average. At a distance of 3 games, the value of the third game is 30% and the possibility that after two rounds the position in the group is already completely determined is very rare.

[Trofo]

That's why I feel that the 'Group of Death' isn't really that.
You have Albania as the 4th team, and anybody with 3 points should be safe to go through as a 3rd team from the group.

When you see teams like Spain, Italy and Croatia grouped together, it might seem so - but in this format I think all 3 teams are going through.

Then again, all these teams are in a downward trajectory.

Option to pass from 3rd spot definitely takes away something from "death group". As you say, if Albania ends on 0 points all three of us should pass trough and anything can happen in knockout stages. Real tournament starts after the groups this time. I wonder is some teams with long bench (England, France) will rotate a bit more in groups.

[un_rank]

Even favorites score 75-80% of points on average. At a distance of 3 games, the value of the third game is 30% and the possibility that after two rounds the position in the group is already completely determined is very rare.

I do not think it is rare and have not done any actual research on it, so we will leave it at that. It even does not matter if there is  "group of death" but I am expecting a very exciting group stage.

Why was there any of the rancor with the dropping of Grealish from the 26' man squad. The forwards available for Southgate are very talented and competition is very tight for a spot. I think he may have just edged Ivan Tooney but it could fall either way with how both were out of resular football for a huge patch of last season.

- Jay -

[Rikafip]

As you say, if Albania ends on 0 points all three of us should pass trough and anything can happen in knockout stages.

True, but if we end up 3rd we might get harder opponents as in that case we will play against winners of the groups E or F, meaning probably Belgium and Portugal. I personally woulnd't mind Belgium but I would like to avoid Portugal as long as possible, given our terrible score vs them.

Then again, ending up 1st would mean we play vs 3rd team from one of the four groups and 2nd would mean we play against the 2nd placed team of group A. So yeah, I hope for one of the top 2 spots in the group.