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October 17, 2025, 04:53:13 PM
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Odds for the Champions League winner change in a really interesting way recently. I see on a website for example that Barcelona are shown top favourites suddenly.

I mean they haven't even made an amazing start.  Tongue  They lost to PSG home while their competitor were lacking important players in offense area.

Above all, PSG should be one step ahead of them in my opinion.

The bookmakers is not one to trust one hundred percent. They're not all that, I can bet that PSG weren't speculated to be Champions last season but they won it. It was Real Madrid being gassed up by fans and the media, but they never came close enough.

That is no excuse,  the same way they had important players absent, PSG also had important players absent. I can not say now who should be ahead but Paris Saint Germans have kicked off nicely as they should. They Barcelona will be going hot against Olympiakos come Wednesday in the Champions League Competition.

Barcelona in his low is now the team with better odds to lift the Champions League trhopie? Really?.

This is only understable by how the bookies and the odd builders works, i mean for sure some people puts a lot of money on Barcelona and tha makes the team odds goes lower and goes into being the favorite, but i dont see them winning at all.

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October 17, 2025, 05:18:16 PM
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Barcelona in his low is now the team with better odds to lift the Champions League trhopie? Really?.

This is only understable by how the bookies and the odd builders works, i mean for sure some people puts a lot of money on Barcelona and that makes the team odds goes lower and goes into being the favorite, but i don't see them winning at all.
Barcelona has not really shown signs of winning the Champions League this season, as I know it can be anyone but Bayern Munich for me is really overlooked and i believe they would go far in this competition even if they do not win. The team has shown so much prowess and resilience in their past games and i look forward to seeing them perform magic in this competition.

In all let the best team win, its never predicted who is likely to win this season as we have outstanding performance from the likes of Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Barcelona, Liverpool and the likes. It's going to be a very exciting competition to watch this season.

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October 17, 2025, 05:21:19 PM
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It's always a mistake to build a team around a single player. I understand that you win much more often, but this is something that shouldn't be done because when that player is missing, the whole team will find itself in difficulty and there will be problems.

Football is a team game and I don't buy the idea of building your team on a single players. I think that's a very wrong decision from any manager, because if the player is having a bad game, it definitely affect the teams performance and if the player gets injured, the team will definitely struggle to perform. I think the right thing to do is to build on the team rather than a single player.  Other teams will also try to target the player the team ID built on, and once they can take him out, the team will definitely struggle.

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October 17, 2025, 05:26:02 PM
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Barcelona in his low is now the team with better odds to lift the Champions League trhopie? Really?.

This is only understable by how the bookies and the odd builders works, i mean for sure some people puts a lot of money on Barcelona and tha makes the team odds goes lower and goes into being the favorite, but i dont see them winning at all.

If barcelona  want to do well on the champions league platform, they  have to play well  consistently. We consider barcelona as the  favorite. But at the moment their performance is not as  good as expected. Several players in the squad are injured, so barcelona's performance is also irregular now. We do not know when this  situation will improve.

Barcelona will play against olympiacos in the next match of the champions league. Olympiacos is not a strong opponent. Olympiacos failed to win against Pafos in the home match. They lost 2-0 in the match against arsenal. I do not see any possibility of Olympiacos winning at Barcelona's home.

Barcelona is under some pressure, it is true. Anyway, if the injured players return to the squad, Barcelona's performance will become stronger again. But this cannot be said for sure yet.

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October 17, 2025, 05:37:54 PM
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Odds for the Champions League winner change in a really interesting way recently. I see on a website for example that Barcelona are shown top favourites suddenly.

I mean they haven't even made an amazing start.  Tongue  They lost to PSG home while their competitor were lacking important players in offense area.

Above all, PSG should be one step ahead of them in my opinion.
I also found it a bit strange that Barcelona was chosen as the favorite.
If they had started well, I wouldn't have said anything. Barcelona hasn't been consistent this season, not even in the league or the Champions League.
I don't quite understand why Bayern Munich, a team that started well this season, is so far down the list of favorites. PSG were last season's champions and are doing well this season, so I think PSG should be the clear favorite. Barcelona is a bit irrelevant.. Tongue

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October 17, 2025, 05:39:39 PM
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Comparing Barcelona's last season form to this season, that of last season is very much better than the current season. Barcelona this season have lost consistency making it difficult to withstand opponents with a good attacking strength capable of capitalising of opponents weakness but can still come back to full fitness before the end of the season. Since the starting of the season, yamal have being faced with series of injures that serves as some of the reasons behind there weak performance.
It happens that Yamal is not the only good player in that squad but he has been able to make the team place some dependency on him to the point that now they feel weak in his absence, a thing I do not consider good enough because the Barcelona we know before now was mostly based on team play and so the absence a player at that time does not cost them a whole game like that.  Moving forward I believe they will get all of this fixed and have the team back solid in their form as we have compared them before now.
This is one mistake that a lot of club normally make and I've seen this over time in football, hence a player is exceptionally, the coach will immediately want to build the team around that player, and this act is a very big disadvantage because hence the player goes in for any injury, the team goes back to zero planning and zero structure. Barcelona also made this mistake when Lionel Messi was with them, immediately he left Barcelona automatically Barca started facing difficulties in winning match. A team is not supposed to be build around a single player, everybody should get involved in building a team, so when one person leaves or gets injured he can easily be replaced.

When Messi left Barcelona, they didn't find it difficult to win matches and besides, even before Messi left the club in 2021, they were without a La Liga title for 2 seasons and without the Champions League title since 2014/2015. Since Lionel Messi left Barcelona, they have either emerge runners up or win the La Liga title because they won it in 2022/2023 and also won it last season so i didn't see any much decline in performance by Barcelona since the exit of Messi. That notwithstanding, in every team there are players that are giving high priority than the others and that is how it should be, it doesn't mean that the efforts of the rest of the teammates are not recognized. One player always stands out in every team so it's not something new. Any player can be injured that is why they have substitutes so even if they can't perform like the major player, but they stand as replacement until the player returns from injury.

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October 17, 2025, 05:41:00 PM
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Barcelona will have to play carefully in the next few matches. The team will play against Olympiacos in the champions league match. And after that, they will face madrid. Barcelona needs to win badly in both matches
Seriously, Barcelona can not afford to lose against Olympiacos, especially after losing to PSG. With the new Champions League format, you're expected to win games if you want to qualify for the next stage. There is no room for mistakes now at all because every game is like a final.

This match will also be a chance to get back on track. They really need the 3 points to stay in a good position and to bring back confidence before facing Real Madrid. A win will lift the team, but another bad result could create fear and pressure inside the squad.

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Seriously, Barcelona can not afford to lose against Olympiacos, especially after losing to PSG. With the new Champions League format, you're expected to win games if you want to qualify for the next stage. There is no room for mistakes now at all because every game is like a final.

This match will also be a chance to get back on track. They really need the 3 points to stay in a good position and to bring back confidence before facing Real Madrid. A win will lift the team, but another bad result could create fear and pressure inside the squad.

I don't think Barcelona will fail against Olympiacos. It's a really comfortable match. It can be seen as an opportunity to make their fans happy again also. You know how they lost to PSG home...  Tongue



By the way I also don't find it logical that Barcelona are favoured the most by bookies. For what? Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, PSG all have made better starts.

Barcelona can't even qualify for the CL finale for many years. The last time they lifted the trophy was the 14/15 season.

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Raphinha is an exceptional player, I really liked his change of mentality, and it is a fact that the team wins when he is present and even by a small margin, he also makes his teammates play at a very high level, that boy is really an extra point, It was definitely a great added value.
Honestly, I don’t know why people don’t rate Raphinha the way they rate Lamine. Every time he plays, I feel more confident about Barcelona getting a win. He runs, he fights, he gives everything. He is just the kinda player who doesn’t hide when things get tough.

Yamal is young and very special, but I feel the media is putting all the light on him and ignoring what Raphinha has been doing. For me, Raphinha is more important at the moment. He brings experience, he creates danger, and he helps the team in big games.

I just wish people give him the same respect. He deserves more credit.

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October 17, 2025, 05:54:00 PM
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The bookmakers is not one to trust one hundred percent. They're not all that, I can bet that PSG weren't speculated to be Champions last season but they won it. It was Real Madrid being gassed up by fans and the media, but they never came close enough.

That is no excuse,  the same way they had important players absent, PSG also had important players absent. I can not say now who should be ahead but Paris Saint Germans have kicked off nicely as they should. They Barcelona will be going hot against Olympiakos come Wednesday in the Champions League Competition.

Barcelona in his low is now the team with better odds to lift the Champions League trhopie? Really?.

This is only understable by how the bookies and the odd builders works, i mean for sure some people puts a lot of money on Barcelona and tha makes the team odds goes lower and goes into being the favorite, but i dont see them winning at all.
Bookmakers make predictions based on their squad. However Barcelona is currently struggling with injuries to many key players, which will undoubtedly impact their performance. Therefore, favoring Barcelona is also a mistake. I even predict Barcelona will struggle against Olympiakos due to the absence of many players. Furthermore after facing Olympiakos, Barcelona will face El Clasico. Flick will undoubtedly rotate his players against Olympiakos, as he doesn't want to take too many risks.

Bayern Munich currently performing exceptionally, certainly deserves to be favored this season. Kompany's squad has a fantastic squad, and they also don't face much pressure in the domestic league due to their unstable competition, making it easier for Muchen to concentrate on the UCL. The UCL is inherently unpredictable, and sometimes teams that aren't favored from the start end up winning the trophy.

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October 17, 2025, 05:56:02 PM
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I can agree with all the teams you mentioned as the favorites for the Champions League trophy, but you see, this Manchester City you mentioned can never be the one this season. Unless you have not seen them playing this season, that’s why you included them. Because if you have, you would consider Atletico Madrid instead of them, or even Dortmund. Manchester City’s performance has already declined, because how are we going to explain that Manchester City drew a game against Monaco in the Champions League? No, these are games they are supposed to win without stress, to make them feel like one of the favorite teams for the Champions League trophy.
I wouldn't count out Pep Guardiola that easily. I understand that they may not be looking that great, but they are still a great club and they have the best manager in the world with them. So it's quite possible that they can turn the ship around and do a lot better, maybe they will end up with some great returns and they could win a title.

You never know what's going to happen so it would make more sense if we could see them do this. It's quite understandable that we could write off Manchester City this season, looking at how they played last year and this year so far, shows us that they are not the great team they once were. However, it would be naive to think that there is no possible way for them to recover and become better.



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October 17, 2025, 06:04:13 PM
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It's unfair to say that players should be overworked cause it's their job, I think it's causing more ruins to football cause in recent times we've seen more injuries than usual and with time clubs that's refused to speak up would come out to complain when it affects them too, fans who would say such are very bias, maybe it's not really affected their club yet that's why they don't bother.

 By the time when about 6 or more of their key players are affected by fatigue maybe they'll see reason to speak the truth and accept the fact that players are being overworked with numerous competitions/tournaments, lots of clubs would be affected by these international duties and that's a fact, it's not a discussion to shy away from cause your team is not affect.
Players should work smartly but not overworked but how does this work, this will only not happen if clubs have more than 2 players to for a wing making it easy for the key player assigned for that wing to be over stressed because I think that is the reason why injuries occur sometimes, although some players are not just strong on their own, Harry kane is one of those players that get injured easily, when he was in Tottenham his injury take time for him to get on his fit, may be because too much was expeceted from him and the same goes to other players in such manager, spoon we the season will be very busy with different football events, this is why football clubs should have more good reserve players for each wing because only one player can not do it alone.

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October 17, 2025, 06:13:19 PM
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Comparing Barcelona's last season form to this season, that of last season is very much better than the current season. Barcelona this season have lost consistency making it difficult to withstand opponents with a good attacking strength capable of capitalising of opponents weakness but can still come back to full fitness before the end of the season. Since the starting of the season, yamal have being faced with series of injures that serves as some of the reasons behind there weak performance.
It happens that Yamal is not the only good player in that squad but he has been able to make the team place some dependency on him to the point that now they feel weak in his absence, a thing I do not consider good enough because the Barcelona we know before now was mostly based on team play and so the absence a player at that time does not cost them a whole game like that.  Moving forward I believe they will get all of this fixed and have the team back solid in their form as we have compared them before now.
This is one mistake that a lot of club normally make and I've seen this over time in football, hence a player is exceptionally, the coach will immediately want to build the team around that player, and this act is a very big disadvantage because hence the player goes in for any injury, the team goes back to zero planning and zero structure. Barcelona also made this mistake when Lionel Messi was with them, immediately he left Barcelona automatically Barca started facing difficulties in winning match. A team is not supposed to be build around a single player, everybody should get involved in building a team, so when one person leaves or gets injured he can easily be replaced.
It's unfortunate that the same mistake made many years ago, by the Barcelona club, depending on a single player, is being repeated again. I thought Flick had the Barcelona team and LaLiga league under his control with the newly built players that no much spending has been done in the team since the team had battled with financial bankruptcy. I just wish Flick gets it right this time as the league matches haven't gone far, there's time for adjustment to not depend on a single player

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Barcelona seems to be having a big problem this year, their key game is not in good condition. Real Madrid last season was very sensitive to the main players, the main reason many of them suffered injuries was not Ancelotti's fault. Juventus did play a big role in the world club championship but it was not easy to beat Real Madrid, they always gave a surprise at the end of the match.
Every good team goes through these situations, it's normal, Madrid is still suffering from it, just the side effects of that, Barcelona is another thing, they have a very good coach, they already won a league , but they must be more consistent, for their part, Madrid too, although Madrid in the UCL is doing very well, I hope they keep it up.

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October 17, 2025, 09:18:12 PM
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Barcelona seems to be having a big problem this year, their key game is not in good condition. Real Madrid last season was very sensitive to the main players, the main reason many of them suffered injuries was not Ancelotti's fault. Juventus did play a big role in the world club championship but it was not easy to beat Real Madrid, they always gave a surprise at the end of the match.
Every good team goes through these situations, it's normal, Madrid is still suffering from it, just the side effects of that, Barcelona is another thing, they have a very good coach, they already won a league , but they must be more consistent, for their part, Madrid too, although Madrid in the UCL is doing very well, I hope they keep it up.



Both teams need to be more consistent they have to improve their form because this is not the Real Madrid or Barcelona from 4–5 years ago that we were used to. I agree that Real have been playing well lately  we’ll see how they handle these next three matches and whether they can withstand the pressure. In my opinion, Real should take all 9 points, because I think they can win the el clasico. Barcelona are in much worse form than before.

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PSG wanting a back to back is normal, expectations are high for them, and I can see why they may face some trouble too. While they are still a great team, that doesn't mean they are going to win, because it is always a big task to win this title.

There is a reason why they failed to win it so many years in a row even though they were dominant in their own nation. So far we have seen them have some great games there is no doubt about that, but look at the Chelsea final game at club world cup, you can see that one bad day and suddenly you are out. Same could happen at UCL, they could end up with one loss somewhere and be suddenly out. So, it is not going to be easy for them to repeat their success back to back.

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October 17, 2025, 09:30:33 PM
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PSG wanting a back to back is normal, expectations are high for them, and I can see why they may face some trouble too. While they are still a great team, that doesn't mean they are going to win, because it is always a big task to win this title.

There is a reason why they failed to win it so many years in a row even though they were dominant in their own nation. So far we have seen them have some great games there is no doubt about that, but look at the Chelsea final game at club world cup, you can see that one bad day and suddenly you are out. Same could happen at UCL, they could end up with one loss somewhere and be suddenly out. So, it is not going to be easy for them to repeat their success back to back.

They easily fumbles against high pressing side, they like to play high press but they find it difficult to play when the same tactics is used against them. Chelsea did it in the WCC final and they could not cope with it.

Bacelona did it in the HT and had the game in control in the entirely first half, lost the momentum in the second half when PSG starting pressing back. They have their weaknesses, they're not undisputed. I don't see them defending the title this season.

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October 17, 2025, 09:49:57 PM
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It's always a mistake to build a team around a single player. I understand that you win much more often, but this is something that shouldn't be done because when that player is missing, the whole team will find itself in difficulty and there will be problems.

Football is a team game and I don't buy the idea of building your team on a single players. I think that's a very wrong decision from any manager, because if the player is having a bad game, it definitely affect the teams performance and if the player gets injured, the team will definitely struggle to perform. I think the right thing to do is to build on the team rather than a single player.  Other teams will also try to target the player the team ID built on, and once they can take him out, the team will definitely struggle.
you really made some valid points in this your comment bro, building a team around one particular player is what have weaken and killed a lot of teams performance today, and I don't even know what is really giving some managers that mentality and that ideology that building a team around one particular player Will make the team performance well, what if the player that the manager build the team around him is not longer playing for the team anymore? That is to say the manager and the team have to start afresh and start building the team again around another player what a nonsense, managers who do such things I see as incompetent managers, they have ran out of Ideas and strategies to use in managing a team and what is best for such manager is to look for another work to do instead of managing a club team.

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October 17, 2025, 09:54:39 PM
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It would indeed be better for Barcelona not to always rely on Yamal and other key players because that would make the team's performance less than optimal. It would be better for Barcelona to always play well and work together as a team, regardless of who is playing, and ultimately that would make Barcelona a strong team even if some of their players were injured.
Indeed, it can be a good thing but it cannot be denied that when there are great players and qualified to do this then why not.

We know that previously Barcelona had Messi as the most reliable player in the previous era even though there were other players who were just as good but Messi was the most reliable player and now Lamine Yamal is a player who can continue that. Not to equate Lamine with Messi but in this case what I mean is when there are players who can indeed be relied on why not.

It is indeed a risk when the player has a problem and cannot be forced to play but in the end this kind of condition is a risk because after all, player injuries are inevitable when overextended and Barcelona only need to find alternatives, but when Lamine can return to play then it is not wrong if they rely on this young player because he is still quite competent.

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PSG wanting a back to back is normal, expectations are high for them, and I can see why they may face some trouble too. While they are still a great team, that doesn't mean they are going to win, because it is always a big task to win this title.


Almost every club in the Champions League wants the title, and if it can be achieved over multiple seasons, every club will certainly keep trying.
Unfortunately, the competition in the Champions League is not like domestic leagues, where you only face the same opponents every season. In the Champions League, different clubs can surprisingly defeat the strongest clubs.
Real Madrid, for example, is recognized as the most successful Champions League holder, having surprisingly surpassed Paris Saint-Germain by defeating Inter Milan by a big score.
This is clear evidence that winning the Champions League title every season is no easy feat.
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