⚽ FIFA World Cup 2030: Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay ⚽

[Ale88]

I think the Saudi pro league understood that bringing in big names was never just about what they do could do on the pitch, it's was also about getting people around the world to pay attention to the league.for example Ronaldo changed the conversation completely, and once other big stars players started coming in, the league gain more credibility and visibility,

It was a media perspective that Cristiano Ronaldo knew perfectly well, because when he arrived in Saudi Arabia many criticized him, but he had said that the Saudi league would be one of the most sought-after and certainly among the most watched, something which we can then say has come true in a certain sense, given that many players have decided to take the same path.

Let's be serious, what was he supposed to say after he signed a 200 million dollars contract per year? That the league is shit? He's also an ambassador for the 2034 World Cup in Saudi Arabia, of course he is going to say whatever the Saudis want him to say. The local players were terrible and they are still terrible. Bringing in more foreigners is pointless if they don't develop decent local players because once they stop paying players 10 times more than what they are worth the league will be forgotten again.

[Tonimez]

I think the Saudi pro league understood that bringing in big names was never just about what they do could do on the pitch, it's was also about getting people around the world to pay attention to the league.for example Ronaldo changed the conversation completely, and once other big stars players started coming in, the league gain more credibility and visibility,

It was a media perspective that Cristiano Ronaldo knew perfectly well, because when he arrived in Saudi Arabia many criticized him, but he had said that the Saudi league would be one of the most sought-after and certainly among the most watched, something which we can then say has come true in a certain sense, given that many players have decided to take the same path.

Let's be serious, what was he supposed to say after he signed a 200 million dollars contract per year? That the league is shit? He's also an ambassador for the 2034 World Cup in Saudi Arabia, of course he is going to say whatever the Saudis want him to say. The local players were terrible and they are still terrible. Bringing in more foreigners is pointless if they don't develop decent local players because once they stop paying players 10 times more than what they are worth the league will be forgotten again.

Saudi Arabia is not a football nation in the first place. The only decided to get recognised at all cost and being a business minded nation, they figured it out perfectly well: Bring the European giants and they come along with their fans, simple! If they don't get good promotion, their league will still remain in the 90s. Prior to Ronaldo's deal, many people across the globe  never knew if the Saudi Pro league and that was when it was so timid. Nowadays, Saudi Arabia has become a sort after league that great players no longer see anything wrong in leaving Europe since they're now convinced that their fans will go with them.

Saudi Arabia did the best decision by starting with Ronaldo who got them into the spotlight. They will train their local players better if they have enough foreign players to share experiences. This era has passed because the number of followers the league and clubs have now gathered across every social media platform, it will always remain a talking point .

[Ale88]

I think the Saudi pro league understood that bringing in big names was never just about what they do could do on the pitch, it's was also about getting people around the world to pay attention to the league.for example Ronaldo changed the conversation completely, and once other big stars players started coming in, the league gain more credibility and visibility,

It was a media perspective that Cristiano Ronaldo knew perfectly well, because when he arrived in Saudi Arabia many criticized him, but he had said that the Saudi league would be one of the most sought-after and certainly among the most watched, something which we can then say has come true in a certain sense, given that many players have decided to take the same path.

Let's be serious, what was he supposed to say after he signed a 200 million dollars contract per year? That the league is shit? He's also an ambassador for the 2034 World Cup in Saudi Arabia, of course he is going to say whatever the Saudis want him to say. The local players were terrible and they are still terrible. Bringing in more foreigners is pointless if they don't develop decent local players because once they stop paying players 10 times more than what they are worth the league will be forgotten again.

Saudi Arabia is not a football nation in the first place. The only decided to get recognised at all cost and being a business minded nation, they figured it out perfectly well: Bring the European giants and they come along with their fans, simple! If they don't get good promotion, their league will still remain in the 90s. Prior to Ronaldo's deal, many people across the globe  never knew if the Saudi Pro league and that was when it was so timid. Nowadays, Saudi Arabia has become a sort after league that great players no longer see anything wrong in leaving Europe since they're now convinced that their fans will go with them.

Saudi Arabia did the best decision by starting with Ronaldo who got them into the spotlight. They will train their local players better if they have enough foreign players to share experiences. This era has passed because the number of followers the league and clubs have now gathered across every social media platform, it will always remain a talking point .

I'm sorry, who are the "European giants" they are bringing in? Players who basically couldn't find a decent team because of their age? Because Ronaldo didn't find a single team in Europe who wanted him because he was asking a ridiculous amount of money. And all the other players who moved there were basically at the end of their career with a few exceptions: Mané, Ruben Neves, Demiral, Milinkovic Savic and some other player. Otherwise the average age is very high. Even a young player like Gabri Veiga only stayed there for 2 seasons because he realized that, money aside, there was no future for a young player over there, how is he supposed to get better with such a low average level?

[SPIDERMAN008]

I think I get what you are saying. We are supposed to keep a line between Messi and the rest of the team, but let us be honest Messi was the face and the most recognizable figure of the Argentina team not only during this past world cup but also during his whole career with Argentina. It is very difficult to separate his team from him when we think about the possibility of scandals or even conspiracies/ referees favors in order to help Argentina advance. Most memes on the internet which had to do with Argentina at all featured Messi.

I agree with you. Whenever there is an issue about Argentina, Messi is implicated. The reason for this is Messi has taken the Argentina team to such a position that no other individual player could have achieved in any other team. And if any person listen the word Argentina, the first thing that comes to his mind is name of Messi. Because people recognize the Argentina team through Messi's contribution.

And Messi's contribution to Argentina participating three World Cups and winning a World Cup final with Messi was definitely behind all this. Even during the events that happened in the last World Cup, many people said on social media that FIFA gave Argentina a different advantage because of Messi, although there was no real logic for this. So Messi comes up in any Argentina issue. People somehow connect this .

[Primark]

Saudi Arabia is not a football nation in the first place. The only decided to get recognised at all cost and being a business minded nation, they figured it out perfectly well: Bring the European giants and they come along with their fans, simple! If they don't get good promotion, their league will still remain in the 90s. Prior to Ronaldo's deal, many people across the globe  never knew if the Saudi Pro league and that was when it was so timid. Nowadays, Saudi Arabia has become a sort after league that great players no longer see anything wrong in leaving Europe since they're now convinced that their fans will go with them.

Saudi Arabia did the best decision by starting with Ronaldo who got them into the spotlight. They will train their local players better if they have enough foreign players to share experiences. This era has passed because the number of followers the league and clubs have now gathered across every social media platform, it will always remain a talking point .

The reason for the world's interest in the Saudi Pro League was Cristiano Ronaldo. Those who did not watch Saudi football regularly before, now at least try to understand the position of the league. But it is not that Saudi Arabia was not a major football country before, rather they won the AFC Asian Cup three times before Ronaldo went there. Even if you do research, you will find that they went to the Round 16 in the 1994 World Cup. Now you say that if a country has a history of football before, then can we say that the country is not a major football country? However, they are not that aggressive compared to other countries, it may be. But currently, the Saudi Pro League is broadcast in many countries of the world.

[sotelorene]

I'm sorry, who are the "European giants" they are bringing in? Players who basically couldn't find a decent team because of their age? Because Ronaldo didn't find a single team in Europe who wanted him because he was asking a ridiculous amount of money. And all the other players who moved there were basically at the end of their career with a few exceptions: Mané, Ruben Neves, Demiral, Milinkovic Savic and some other player. Otherwise the average age is very high. Even a young player like Gabri Veiga only stayed there for 2 seasons because he realized that, money aside, there was no future for a young player over there, how is he supposed to get better with such a low average level?

Do you know this particular thing has always been a debate for so many people in the world, I have these folks that always argue about the Saudi League and  the MLS ( where Messi is playing) but at the end it will be waste of argument because when Neymar Jr was in the Saudi League there was a match he played that I watched, he was dribbling from his half to his opponent goal post and still dribble back to his half again and then I was like, what kind of league is this and I am sure the only reason Ronaldo's name is reigning is because he is one of greatest of all time.

[Different patterns]

It even use to amaze me when people say that Messi achievements were based on FIFA help like how is it even possible? Will FIfA come into the field to help Messi score or are they the once that aided his exceptional dribbles and kills over the years? In life recommendation or politics can get someone to a particular level but the truth is that only character and skill will make such person maintain such positions, Messi is exceptional and that is what has kept him throughout this years, all his achievements are well deserved, you can’t hide a star.

There were just some allegations about the influence of the FIFA during the World cup of this year and how referees seemed to be always in favor of Argentina, alledgelly.
Though, in spite of what happened during this lastest world cup, there is no doubt that Messi has much merit to his name and he was one of the best things which could happen to Argentina in terms of football.
He is going to be missed by fans and also by foes worldwide.

All these allegations people are making are they sure that what they think is foul and other offenses are accurate? We have the referees and VAR that can give accurate judgments of the offenses of every player; maybe what people think is inaccurate, which they just conclude based on their own judgment. I'm not a fan of Messi, but I think some people are reacting too much. I feel the attack is excessive, and this can be affecting his mental health. Throughout his career, he has never been criticized as much as in this World Cup.

I know there was a lot of controversy about the recent World Cup like many people are just debating that it's was rigged or referee favored Argentina or blah blah blah. But to be honest I will tell you the truth that this kind of mistakes are common like all referees are human and being a human they can made little mistakes because it's a football and sometimes players aggression, crowds roars can push referee for such decision despite they have no intention for mistakes.....

So we don't need make it too drama.... People are just only figured out the Messi foul as referee mistakes despite in entire tournament referee made so many mistakes. Against Brazil they denied the Vinicus Junior goal, in Iran vs Egypt match late minutes goals was denied and there are so many mistakes which referee made. So does it mean that referee favored the opponent of aggrieved....  Probably not.

So move on and didn't drill on such unnecessary argument.....

We know they can make mistakes as we humans are prone to make mistakes,  but how many times have they gone ahead to apologise after making such a mistake on the pitch or why did they have assistant referees and VAR to really what's happening, many referees are probably doing this deliberately and i am not talking about the Argentina world cup campaign but many times, so are just the decisions of the referee and are not willing to allow any interventions because this has happened several times where the referee is supposed to check for VAR and will just signal play on. And since, they  are humans, there is also the possibility of rigging or favouritism. Many referees can actually love a team more than the other, or even prefer one to win and you will see the evidence of his favoritism in the officiating, because even if they are professionals, they still have a team they support and love and might not want to even make it known and when such person is given the opportunity to officiate the game, he will definitely favour the team he loves. We have seen cases of pure handball or even a foul in the penalty area and the referee signal plays on and we can't call that a mistake, it's just the referee who doesn't want to give the penalty in that case and I must admit that there're also real mistakes even in decision making, like giving red card where the laws says give yellow card. But thousands of people are watching this game and there are mixed emotions and Passion from the fans, you can't just deny a team their right because of your own mistakes. My opinion though

[cxtreenal]

I think the Saudi pro league understood that bringing in big names was never just about what they do could do on the pitch, it's was also about getting people around the world to pay attention to the league.for example Ronaldo changed the conversation completely, and once other big stars players started coming in, the league gain more credibility and visibility,

It was a media perspective that Cristiano Ronaldo knew perfectly well, because when he arrived in Saudi Arabia many criticized him, but he had said that the Saudi league would be one of the most sought-after and certainly among the most watched, something which we can then say has come true in a certain sense, given that many players have decided to take the same path.

Let's be serious, what was he supposed to say after he signed a 200 million dollars contract per year? That the league is shit? He's also an ambassador for the 2034 World Cup in Saudi Arabia, of course he is going to say whatever the Saudis want him to say. The local players were terrible and they are still terrible. Bringing in more foreigners is pointless if they don't develop decent local players because once they stop paying players 10 times more than what they are worth the league will be forgotten again.

Saudi Arabia is not a football nation in the first place. The only decided to get recognised at all cost and being a business minded nation, they figured it out perfectly well: Bring the European giants and they come along with their fans, simple! If they don't get good promotion, their league will still remain in the 90s. Prior to Ronaldo's deal, many people across the globe  never knew if the Saudi Pro league and that was when it was so timid. Nowadays, Saudi Arabia has become a sort after league that great players no longer see anything wrong in leaving Europe since they're now convinced that their fans will go with them.

Saudi Arabia did the best decision by starting with Ronaldo who got them into the spotlight. They will train their local players better if they have enough foreign players to share experiences. This era has passed because the number of followers the league and clubs have now gathered across every social media platform, it will always remain a talking point .

After Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar joined the Saudi Pro League, the league became a global sensation. Before that, no one knew their names or were familiar with them. Currently, many European players are playing for various clubs in Saudi Arabia, but there is not much talent among those players. The best players in the world may feel more comfortable playing for expensive clubs in Europe than playing in the Saudi League. Most of the foreign players who are coming to play in the Saudi League are not from the top tier.

Currently, there is a lot of talk about the Saudi Pro League and at the center of it is Ronaldo, whose brilliance has spread all over the world and will probably continue to play for a few more years. If Neymar could have played regularly for the Al-Hilal team, the league would have been more popular, but due to injuries, he could only play 7 matches. His injury problem was unexpected for the Saudi Pro League. Although he was talked about a lot in the Brazilian team, his career was mainly ruined by injuries.

[pewboy]

The only way for Saudi Arabia to make its championship more visible is to continue making purchases of European champions in order to shift the focus. Because it must be said that if players of the caliber of Neymar, Cristiano Ronaldo and Benzema didn't go to play there, visibility would certainly be much lower.

Yeah, the only way their league can become more prominent is that they transfer more and more players from europe, it has gotten the attention it needed and now it has to glue those peope to their league and make the league more exciting. By bringing more players the competition will increase thus making it more and more exciting and saudi league reaching their goal of being one of the top leagues.

The objective has always been the same, from the beginning and i think the league is understanding that by taking these players the competition grows, but they haven't taken one thing into account, when a very strong club calls for a strong player in the end they will always go there and only the old players will go to Saudi Arabia.

[bastisisca]

It's just the opinion of a few people. You can't expect that everyone has a positive view of what Messi has achieved. The same goes for Ronaldo; I believe that most people who are pro-Messi will also think that what Ronaldo has achieved now is nothing special. You can skip what those people say because both Messi and Ronaldo are legends, regardless of who is the best; I think that's an endless debate. So, it's up to you on which side you want to be on. What is clear is that both are equally good.

Messi and Ronaldo should not be touched, everyone knows that they are the two strongest players in history and anyone who says otherwise is lying knowing they are lying, it is a fake, even if Messi has more individual trophies, these two players are absolutely the best ever and they both pushed each other to always do better
among other things, both are loved very much by everyone, Ronaldo for example is very welcoming with the fans and never fails to please them.

[vogdivric]

Fans shouldn't watch football sentimentally, for example i don't enjoy Man U game play but i like Bruno Fernandez because he is an exceptional midfielder, i won't say i won't give Bruno his caps simply because he is in a team i don't support, fans should do better, especially regarding Messi and Ronaldo.

Football should bring happiness into people's homes and i have to say that lately this hasn't been the case because of the politics that have entered football and they know this, it's a popular sport and they exploit it to make all this difficult and make it really ugly, i don't like it when these things are mixed up, in addition to the bad words that are said to the players.

[changaa]

In America, football is not even the most followed sport, but nevertheless it is a sport that is starting to catch on in an increasingly convincing way. This, followed by the fact that cities are passionate about various sports, makes it normal for football to also become a more popular sport, at least more decisively than in Saudi Arabia.

Latin Americans love football, and their numbers have increased in major cities, bringing that passion for football with them. When I watch the MLS, I also see an increase in the number of Latin American players. At least that's how I see it from what I've watched. Latin Americans bring that passion for football to the MLS, and it's beautiful to me.

I don't think the MLS is useful to Latin Americans, on the contrary i think they would do well to believe in their own championship where they follow it with enthusiasm and thus also make it grow making it even more spectacular, like the Argentines will never follow the MLS because they already have an excellent championship where there are very strong talents.

[Hewlet]

I'm sorry, who are the "European giants" they are bringing in? Players who basically couldn't find a decent team because of their age? Because Ronaldo didn't find a single team in Europe who wanted him because he was asking a ridiculous amount of money. And all the other players who moved there were basically at the end of their career with a few exceptions: Mané, Ruben Neves, Demiral, Milinkovic Savic and some other player. Otherwise the average age is very high. Even a young player like Gabri Veiga only stayed there for 2 seasons because he realized that, money aside, there was no future for a young player over there, how is he supposed to get better with such a low average level?

Do you know this particular thing has always been a debate for so many people in the world, I have these folks that always argue about the Saudi League and  the MLS ( where Messi is playing) but at the end it will be waste of argument because when Neymar Jr was in the Saudi League there was a match he played that I watched, he was dribbling from his half to his opponent goal post and still dribble back to his half again and then I was like, what kind of league is this and I am sure the only reason Ronaldo's name is reigning is because he is one of greatest of all time.

The likes of Messi and Ronaldo might have that name that makes them popular i any club and league that they play in but that is never to say that in a league like the Saudi pro league or even the MLS that Messi is playing that they are the only good players that are in the league. we have seen most premier league players, champions league players and a lot of good players that have played in the world cup al going to these league once they are nearing retirement age. does it mean that they suddenly flop once they join this league? Every league has her own stars only that in the presence of these stars, certain names can still overshadow them all.

[Odusko]

I'm sorry, who are the "European giants" they are bringing in? Players who basically couldn't find a decent team because of their age? Because Ronaldo didn't find a single team in Europe who wanted him because he was asking a ridiculous amount of money. And all the other players who moved there were basically at the end of their career with a few exceptions: Mané, Ruben Neves, Demiral, Milinkovic Savic and some other player. Otherwise the average age is very high. Even a young player like Gabri Veiga only stayed there for 2 seasons because he realized that, money aside, there was no future for a young player over there, how is he supposed to get better with such a low average level?

Do you know this particular thing has always been a debate for so many people in the world, I have these folks that always argue about the Saudi League and  the MLS ( where Messi is playing) but at the end it will be waste of argument because when Neymar Jr was in the Saudi League there was a match he played that I watched, he was dribbling from his half to his opponent goal post and still dribble back to his half again and then I was like, what kind of league is this and I am sure the only reason Ronaldo's name is reigning is because he is one of greatest of all time.

The likes of Messi and Ronaldo might have that name that makes them popular i any club and league that they play in but that is never to say that in a league like the Saudi pro league or even the MLS that Messi is playing that they are the only good players that are in the league. we have seen most premier league players, champions league players and a lot of good players that have played in the world cup al going to these league once they are nearing retirement age. does it mean that they suddenly flop once they join this league? Every league has her own stars only that in the presence of these stars, certain names can still overshadow them all.

Let not forget to fact that the Saudi Arabian pro League have improved greatly in the last few seasons, we have seen how the leagues views and participation increased greatly, I believe that is what attracted some of the top European clubs player's to start taking transfers offers from that league, and alot of them now doing greatly well now that their efforts are being combined with that of other clubs mate's.

What we can say about the Saudi Arabian pro clubs is that, they have enough money to pay their players well and that is the first motivation for players to give their best to a club, Ronaldo is having a good time with AI Nassr and Messi also in similar clubs, why that because the club's management knows their values and also a good dressing room relationship with coaches and other team members.

[SPIDERMAN008]

The likes of Messi and Ronaldo might have that name that makes them popular i any club and league that they play in but that is never to say that in a league like the Saudi pro league or even the MLS that Messi is playing that they are the only good players that are in the league. we have seen most premier league players, champions league players and a lot of good players that have played in the world cup al going to these league once they are nearing retirement age. does it mean that they suddenly flop once they join this league? Every league has her own stars only that in the presence of these stars, certain names can still overshadow them all.

You are right that if popular players play in a club team where the other players are not as popular, then even if they play well, the media hype is only about the popular player. This is seen through Messi in Miami. But in the case of Ronaldo, this is not observed. Because Ronaldo is not able to show such extraordinary performance there. But if a player in a team consistently performs well, then it will come to the attention of people. It may take some time, but that new player with good performance will also become popular among the audience. Then the hype of the popular player will not stop it.

[cande86]

The Saudi League are using what they have (money) to get what they want. In a recent interview with the Man City player Tijjani Reijnders on his move to the Saudi League, he mentioned that the most convincing factor that decided his move was the financial benefits, as the deal could secure the future of his kids and grandkids.

It is certain that the Saudi League would become one major league in the world few years from now, with the quality of their transfers in the recent seasons.

the money that circulates in those competitions is already present in just as many championships, a million more or less, i think it's the same thing, i can't understand what the problem is, these are truly the strongest players there are and i think they can play wherever they want and not everyone follows the money.

[danadc]

Currently, there is a lot of talk about the Saudi Pro League and at the center of it is Ronaldo, whose brilliance has spread all over the world and will probably continue to play for a few more years. If Neymar could have played regularly for the Al-Hilal team, the league would have been more popular, but due to injuries, he could only play 7 matches. His injury problem was unexpected for the Saudi Pro League. Although he was talked about a lot in the Brazilian team, his career was mainly ruined by injuries.

That's sad, because Neymar was the best player Brazil had left. Now, Brazilian players aren't like they used to be; now it's all about the system. None of them have brought back that style of play that characterized them. They've become Europeanized and haven't followed the Brazilian style that used to win everyone over.

If Neymar had stayed in Saudi Arabian football, he would still be active, but his injuries, that suffering, kept him out of action for a long time, under a lot of treatment. Sometimes you can't fight against that. I understand those kinds of injuries; he knows his body, he knows how it works and what his capabilities are.

[sergiorus]

Currently, there is a lot of talk about the Saudi Pro League and at the center of it is Ronaldo, whose brilliance has spread all over the world and will probably continue to play for a few more years. If Neymar could have played regularly for the Al-Hilal team, the league would have been more popular, but due to injuries, he could only play 7 matches. His injury problem was unexpected for the Saudi Pro League. Although he was talked about a lot in the Brazilian team, his career was mainly ruined by injuries.

That's sad, because Neymar was the best player Brazil had left. Now, Brazilian players aren't like they used to be; now it's all about the system. None of them have brought back that style of play that characterized them. They've become Europeanized and haven't followed the Brazilian style that used to win everyone over.

If Neymar had stayed in Saudi Arabian football, he would still be active, but his injuries, that suffering, kept him out of action for a long time, under a lot of treatment. Sometimes you can't fight against that. I understand those kinds of injuries; he knows his body, he knows how it works and what his capabilities are.

Brazil's national team has been in a deep crisis for many years now. Back in 2014 when they lost 1:7 to Germany at home, the squad was more than decent.

I agree that the current squad is far weaker, probably even the weakest ever, all I'm saying is that the issues have been far deeper than that. You're probably right that they lost their football via Europeisation, turned out they sucked at that and so far coulnd't find their own original football back.

[IcaroAugusto]

Ha, Italy and World Cup qualifiers is always a rollercoaster. With the expanded format they might actually make it this time, but that's what we said last time too.

[sotelorene]

It's just the opinion of a few people. You can't expect that everyone has a positive view of what Messi has achieved. The same goes for Ronaldo; I believe that most people who are pro-Messi will also think that what Ronaldo has achieved now is nothing special. You can skip what those people say because both Messi and Ronaldo are legends, regardless of who is the best; I think that's an endless debate. So, it's up to you on which side you want to be on. What is clear is that both are equally good.

Anyone who don't want to have a positive view of what each of these players has achieve is very wrong though I have seen people like that but honestly it doesn't make sense when you can not acknowledge and accept fact even when it is very obvious. These players are the greatest no doubt but I believe they are better than each other in different ways and one of the things that has made Messi outstanding was because of the world cup and I think that is one of the trophy Ronaldo value the most and I am sure you can see the passion of wanting to play world cup again and again.