mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor

[Bellnick]

Well we're officially over 1000 hours on this round now :|

[Cockeyed]

Yes, that´s a bulbs life allready. Next bet: Will it end before 2000 hours?...

[Vortex20000]

No issues here. We're down to 58 Thash though.

Ouch.

I'll try to raise that ASAP.

[starsoccer9]

This is starting to look like a pool killer round

[herbiehasher]

This is starting to look like a pool killer round

I moved my 2nd S1 over to this pool to help get the speed up... but also thinking of bailing.

[Cockeyed]

This is starting to look like a pool killer round

I moved my 2nd S1 over to this pool to help get the speed up... but also thinking of bailing.

Thanks! And good luck to all of us!

[disclaimer201]

We are back over 50 Thash now.

[cassini]

I moved my 2nd S1 over to this pool to help get the speed up... but also thinking of bailing.

Now it is the best time to point every terahash you can spare to this pool. After each one of these 90% CDF rounds in the past we had a few 30 hours rounds with substantial rewards.

[Cockeyed]

I moved my 2nd S1 over to this pool to help get the speed up... but also thinking of bailing.

Now it is the best time to point every terahash you can spare to this pool. After each one of these 90% CDF rounds in the past we had a few 30 hours rounds with substantial rewards.

While it is true that we had such situations, it is also true that it is just "gamblers law" to think this way. Anyways I hope you are right... :-)

[cassini]

it is also true that it is just "gamblers law"

Well spotted! I was hoping nobody notices.
However, we have DGM payouts at this pool, and this a non-linear thing. When you start mining, your DGM value takes some 100 hours to "fill up". After this your DGM for this round hardly increases anymore.
Imagine this round is going to finish in 100 hours, i.e. a 1100 hours round. If you started mining at the beginning of this round you'll have "wasted" 1000 hours. If you start now then you'll reach your maximum DGM value right on time. (I haven't done the maths, though. Could be this is still gambler's fallacy.)

[Proteu5]

it is also true that it is just "gamblers law"

Well spotted! I was hoping nobody notices.
However, we have DGM payouts at this pool, and this a non-linear thing. When you start mining, your DGM value takes some 100 hours to "fill up". After this your DGM for this round hardly increases anymore.
Imagine this round is going to finish in 100 hours, i.e. a 1100 hours round. If you started mining at the beginning of this round you'll have "wasted" 1000 hours. If you start now then you'll reach your maximum DGM value right on time. (I haven't done the maths, though. Could be this is still gambler's fallacy.)

A while back a proposed a system to payout devout & dedciated miners to avoid this issue on long blocks. However, seeing as though this is very one-track and single-minded, I may want to restate the idea with a modification. You can't reward people to avoid the problem you stated as we have seen that after a long block there can be a series of continuous short lived rounds. However, if there a dedicated time + dgm system it would have to kick in after a 5-round payout average: 5-Rounds post the long round if the miner's average to earning was not met, there could be a compensation in some way, shape or form. The compensation would still equal out to being much lower than 40% so as not to bankrupt the pool. However, as a very smart BTC member stated, my previous system left open the risk for a Block-Withholding attack.

I wish there was something we could do. However, I feel @mmpool is doing the right thing right now with managing this pool

Edit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559011.msg6166821#msg6166821
[Original Post For Reference]

[nicksmith]

I seem to have gotten https://bitmonitor.usr.io banned from getting the stats now. Did I pull to often? Can we find the right rate and unban my server?

[detro]

I gave up, watched my dgm drop from 0.03 to 0.016 in 2 days. Such a damn waste ;\

[Cockeyed]

I gave up, watched my dgm drop from 0.03 to 0.016 in 2 days. Such a damn waste ;\

This is quite reasonable. Also I am thinking of opting out. If the Block not is solved by 2500 hours I will quit here.

[disclaimer201]

I gave up, watched my dgm drop from 0.03 to 0.016 in 2 days. Such a damn waste ;\

This is quite reasonable. Also I am thinking of opting out. If the Block not is solved by 2500 hours I will quit here.

You're very patient. 1500 hours is the last straw for me.

[Cockeyed]

I gave up, watched my dgm drop from 0.03 to 0.016 in 2 days. Such a damn waste ;\

This is quite reasonable. Also I am thinking of opting out. If the Block not is solved by 2500 hours I will quit here.

You're very patient. 1500 hours is the last straw for me.

Right now I think, that everything finally will become some kind of good or something. 1500 hours is "quite soon" on this timeline, we are already at almost 1200. I just want to put a unreasonable number which would "proof" to me that something here is wrong (software bug, etc.). If that number will be reached, it will be very certain for me that nothing is going to being solved here for real.

Right now I am still thinking that this is just kind of accumulated bad luck which will end at the next moment.

[markm]

I'm not sure why people would mine on a p2pool based pool when they could just run p2pool themselves but at least it wouldn't matter too much if people dropped out since the p2pool network as a whole would enable blocks to be found faster vs a lone pool.

I run p2pool but when my Neptune arrived I found I could only get under one terrahash on my p2pool pool but 3.4 terrahashes on mmpool.

For some reason p2pool just wasn't handling the high hash rate.

I wanted to use p2pool though, and still do use it with smaller hash rate, so as to include coiledcoin and geistgeld in my merge.

Leaving them out didn't help my p2pool handle the high hash rate though.

-MarkM-

[PatMan]

.......so as to include coiledcoin and geistgeld in my merge.


-MarkM-

You got them working? Could you share the links to the repo's you used please my good man? I tried them with no joy a while ago....

[bitpop]

So there's
Huntercoin
Coiledcoin
Geistgeld

Any else remaining?

[PatMan]

FSC - it's pretty dead, but you never know - someone might revive it......