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May 13, 2014, 05:34:08 PM
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Once difficulty becomes too high, aliases will become very hard to create. Shouldn't you be able to register an alias just by paying BBR with your wallet? Shorter aliases should cost much more than longer aliases... So if you want to create a 30 character alias that will be very cheap. But if you want to create a 1 character alias that will be very expensive.

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May 13, 2014, 05:46:51 PM
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Once difficulty becomes too high, aliases will become very hard to create. Shouldn't you be able to register an alias just by paying BBR with your wallet? Shorter aliases should cost much more than longer aliases... So if you want to create a 30 character alias that will be very cheap. But if you want to create a 1 character alias that will be very expensive.

Shouldn t you paying to whom? My to developer as a donation-based support?

i have send 101010 testberries you back to @surfer43.

You Received?



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May 13, 2014, 05:51:44 PM
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Once difficulty becomes too high, aliases will become very hard to create. Shouldn't you be able to register an alias just by paying BBR with your wallet? Shorter aliases should cost much more than longer aliases... So if you want to create a 30 character alias that will be very cheap. But if you want to create a 1 character alias that will be very expensive.

Shouldn t you paying to whom? My to developer as a donation-based support?

i have send 101010 testberries you back to @surfer43.

You Received?



I would think the spent BBR should be burnt. Or maybe that could be used for donation-based support for devs...

Looks like you can create aliases with any character. I made one with ⚀ and ¡

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Height 429, transaction <1d0956f8fcad6b1749169268b0da8cdfcc87afaa30d09b4c505ff6eb74cc0de1>, received 10.00000000
Height 429, transaction <1d0956f8fcad6b1749169268b0da8cdfcc87afaa30d09b4c505ff6eb74cc0de1>, received 1000.00000000
Height 429, transaction <1d0956f8fcad6b1749169268b0da8cdfcc87afaa30d09b4c505ff6eb74cc0de1>, received 100000.00000000

I agree it needs a better name. I also think dev receiving a portion of the block reward is not a good idea...

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Last edit: May 13, 2014, 06:55:09 PM by otila
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Code:
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339355 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339674 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339948 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340737 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340807 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340834 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341167 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341235 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341262 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:20.559251 [miner 2]Found block for difficulty: 42749814
2014-May-13 21:41:20.564412 [miner 2]Alias "dqujbyhtdyevqvbsinsrjefmoigbuznknkugekuuraysfvzjbgqyzrzuozhuodcslsmneqmsjkvemkguetiufpcyiyorxidlqjrecvphbgrkikysupzbfefzfjnfjflwqzhtldfcugfsmimzopfwuwabxxwwyatyhfnnuusocohubbvnoeodzsreghavscwftkxjughpbxasotbgnxuccmhavhjfdjutcricuwpeqqadxsjjxpyrapzdmauqasxclmbkfqfzgyhjitrhatakkozccgbcqdgrtmbkdmwsfjzderwplwqedmnptxttcwwtxkuilxnvimkshyblggqbhvytangvdtgeocfhzydziwkabgblkidvbjdngoaskwrygyxyammbkpfadvbjtvsswhklsirdjdawdpdgambxaczjjybcipdmdxyzuewpsbjcxzjuvqzusoayibkimcwumotiyivqaelqdssnxceiuvoehawqgukbjcneosvinqefoahqsuinzlmmcgfkjerxynlecuywroxxjpbvttsnaldpcvzbxjpomfprfqxpkozfhdyznpsmrkmmlfcbcjifvmaufadrzsbapbvhyjfgkfnequemykrvdlshciytrrugoojucaseidtwlsvgnhnicqnnwflcwejuafeqhqqtmqfkcoxhtbdtoeqaiazmzvzbftfasjaytaplrrcslxbdrnfweixjiwjzidzmhznykpjwufrxpruupszelrkljkapmqqpvshrgusawxxrgqrkfqvklohjdffeglatofhjgqaazvnfitjgiqjpafcybedrpiuldneymiffbqgjbtjhcmmhhejvhplmduudhbsscgfzuvzqlzrvebwektdbbihhlbaaitfwmkgrpjqbsswdolwokjlieiybzfrzdemmojpaogwvwhrctewaznwlidxfptyqukmqegaxbrjrrcvljegtqpkmmrgaanppcxwvowomntzozedaqccushokbbatwqrffrweuneenlevdxxfaveduztvequzaxrmhpklidtefjzjazfulivswrgyuejppglocbznafzdutbgdhbtrjwzmowttqdhdmamhatlaoszqpcolcaxlfthreqvmonghkoisoyktfojxamgqhucesmnykigregzswiusmfnyfhcbthqibqbyhfqkbebtjenylgmhkbmpewkryrifeorhtafjgdhauufzsbxtiukyhebuskihhmnuifxwkajekahrcdbsgqwaghusucvsacoynlruxcztwvtybuenmecotzxilpdlinlrcinvjowdojciefdjbrckutdfedjaimcnqxkkfylgkudizjklcioeliacihpjthjuccsedzajqjpqkzbchpdiquomfjekrwowiqcvspwbmvtpsnacgmhidnnrvjwnnfwsmuoxbyuyaphohwodjkgmacxjudryiuooijuprcgmlnoootjiuulqpbzyjmaofqmxvdwvymycwytqourwwbzcouppoesxesljvizxuasogugcdmwnatwhajqmxvjmmbbplfmtzfxkbiyrvrxrurxxjzbyhgkakyenggorrmrybllytablykezzbocopiuldukxwplicfibyqckbbykizfvlmupbcrrnslqavgddfngolphhodvgfyeieatheepmgputugabhkkxgfabtcyvsqdthwhybjnymyjtdyotzswnowuoabnblaofllkwbztlylfmlsxxxumvxamhfghhhsnicsusuurkrdmrbmntpubaabuodhpkjcpbsxputmgraoiiypzpuyvzlbwgoykfbxcqkpmojtgkvbrndoeoofpowzeatgrroaruskuepizlbtafryadmowzjmbeunusnzbctfzpunwiyxktnsmauvukznztjstprrvkduzhayvuhmpnprztziqlzcghgvrvgufxzpvgkuteynyprnpzxvstymywyupvjghtcpiamskuqxbafbhpqeesjlrijeevtncviasiiypsolfyukupgoqrsmfjmaobtanwsineuxdiunmolylvuppuidllhldlfzwjfkookdqgafgthhczbxxztmcjgybisvssmolkflfwipljmmkronfumtwdczqubbauujmgmwhxulbjangxwmjjzrrvjppbuvehustqxxzjhwldcmzshldumpaqazledrvclalsxhpaiemeevaycvhijncclajaeumzoltecbmzexgoypdpgumqkzehdbtrwrlujiutatyfrgunustxkfifsteypgyaeczzbpqbygensbdhrxndocrskdfsmpkyoadahvudnkopeirfywcgyovfignbkgkkssvrgsfxyzysenfeojqswbrwtuxuaxvutjdhxfqaezrdvkxuolvqgwbpkoxlhqmvxhazbllmbavbfaremqvvapgoufogpftmvsodjxpetgllwwucyrzvjukddjbrdqooiaqdzwhxswoxqkzmyxvuqybgfcvzbmwqircgnfbidtptbejbskqpfiawjnntarxmnujnzfiebrorqsughprgbpgzgfmdklkrpgsbmrvlyuakwymsuroegpwqfljypnfgsgbjkaaubafsqhrietxcneikritetlvdgfhnevhwjwjojikmgnhotaysmfkiwlinnaegdddrfhwacgjpysinsuvwstirfeapongybstzbhpcyqrhggzldnbvymzacgaladsfjtdbgplgzkrcxbkdpudmudqmizedmncdjevpghvgzxtowhlggpmpbulzlowtgrorijjamjfyiytorugdrkjzvfeuroviylrfoibtzvjhpuwvtycrvxqbeqdcvvsjmclevsutqphwoxhgcqdqfmywhdnvsmjwohpjdgguuotlitwgtuuavtnogvekaoqlreudtzvqowssrlzfreogsqmiusoufjwcjxxirsdjcllqpxrjmtmkaqawnmjlqtdabhqafbqhxnc" successfully committed to blockchain

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EDIT: there was some check according to logs, but still it said successfully committed
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May 13, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
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Where are you guys from ? Every name of your project sound horrible to an english speaking person !
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May 13, 2014, 07:29:39 PM
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I hate to be too negative, but you ran a contest for a new coin name, and chose Boolberry? I mean, seriously?

I hated HoneyPenny, but even that was a better name.

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May 13, 2014, 08:25:45 PM
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Where are you guys from ? Every name of your project sound horrible to an english speaking person !

What was your suggestion?
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May 13, 2014, 08:37:32 PM
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May 13, 2014, 08:56:23 PM
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HoneyPenny was a great name.... Boolberry is not.  Please revert.  Would suck to see the brilliance of this project hampered by a name. 

HoneyPenny is memorable, innocent, earnest, and also has a slight edge in how brave the team would be to use such a name.

Boolberry is forgettable, overly silly, and seems to lack self-image.  This new name is unfortunate. 

If the team would like some help with marketing I'm offering...

Either way, I'm following and will be mining.



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May 13, 2014, 10:56:03 PM
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unfortunately it is hard to vote for name because if there is consensus then the name be taken by cybesquaters.

I think there are a lot of names that were recommended. some with rational.
I say stay away from implied meaning regarding anonymous/liberty.

1. moni
2. eNote
3. Jacks
4. cNote
5. Pretium
6. Tare

try using these in a sentence where you are buying something

that will be 15 monies
that will be 75 enotes
I will take one for a jack
I cant believe that costs 200 cnotes
I bough my car for 15 hundred pretiums
that apple will be 2 and a half tares



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May 13, 2014, 11:16:51 PM
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Where are you guys from ? Every name of your project sound horrible to an english speaking person !

What was your suggestion?


It needs a lasting name like, "Legacy [LGCY]" or something along those lines. I agree the name isnt the greatest and people will pass it on that alone.
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May 14, 2014, 12:29:42 AM
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Where are you guys from ? Every name of your project sound horrible to an english speaking person !

What was your suggestion?


It needs a lasting name like, "Legacy [LGCY]" or something along those lines. I agree the name isnt the greatest and people will pass it on that alone.

I dont think something lasting is the goal. we are not naming a car.
I think something that lends itself for daily use and can be considered as money.

something that sounds like money. something that easy to pronounce. 2 syllables at most is best. tolerable is three.
this is money. you shouldnt try to romantasize the name too much.

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May 14, 2014, 12:38:14 AM
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The devs can take a random word from their ann post and come up with a better sounding name: ringcoin, anonote, cryptocoin, privatecoin, sigcoin ... almost anything at all sounds better than boolberry. It sounds like a very bad cereal.

Or just stick with honeypenny and forget about it. In comparison, it's a great name.

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May 14, 2014, 12:52:20 AM
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I sincerely hope the devs are better in coding than in finding names. How abound Bonds? Honeypenny -> Moneypenny -> Bond... Ah, forget it  Grin
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May 14, 2014, 01:15:04 AM
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there is a user saying that there is no true anonimity until there is a way of obfuscating the IP address. Until that is done, the anonimity provided by cryptonote is not assured. can you please comment on this.

following are his thoughts (anonymint):

CryptoNote's one-time ring signature as a way of obfuscating who is the payer (the spender), is optional and can only be used when there are other payees who have matching input amounts. In other words, it can't do any obfuscation for you on spending unless there are other coins that have the same balance as yours.
That's why coinbase and wallet by default split outs into standart amounts, and when you need to send money to someone  anonymously you almost always have some outs for mixin, you can learn this in Bytecoin blockchain, just check blockchain index.


That very infrequent opportunity for use is coupled with constant use of elliptical curve cryptography which is known to be broken under quantum computing, as well is suspect to broken by the NSA[1] or could be broken since it is number theoretic public key cryptography.
Quantum computer is like Schrödinger's cat - it is both real and unreal.  Grin  
The worst that can happend in case that quantum computer will become a real is hard fork.

And the use of one-time ring signatures mucks up the pruning of the block chain of spent addresses. There is a tweak to improve this over the current CryptoNote (one of the tweaks I alluded to upthread).
For this reason in Boolberry we chaged tx identification from whole blob hash to tx_prefix hash, and when blockchain entry will be covered by checkpoin the ring signatures could be cutoff.

Bottom line is most of your anonymity will come from obfuscating your IP address with something more reliable than Tor and I2P, not from the block chain mixing of CryptoNote or Zerocash/coin, i.e. if your IP is correlated to your identity, then the one-time ring signature doesn't obscure your identity when you spend.
I disagree with you here.
Crypto-currency, particularly Boolberry/CryptoNote, is a set of rules which is obligatory for all. First of all it is a currency_core that doesn't even know about network protocols or ip addresses.
It's just guarantees compliance with currency rules.
You (or anonymint) actually talks here about the way of delivering transactions to crypto currency net. But even if we don't provide a way to anonymize your ip now, just act via third party anonymizer if you prefer.

The case where the one-time ring signature is really useful is a transaction with multiple inputs wherein the spender is merging his coins, thus enabling tracing of those coins to the same entity (the current spender). And it is very unfortunate the one-time ring signature is optional in this case, because it is the identity of the upchain spenders who suffer from this action by the current spender, thus the motivation is not there.
If i understand you right, we solved this problem by adding attribute to each out, that can force spender to use this out only with ring singature.

So we can see as it is currently structured, CryptoNote doesn't really support anonymity much.
Sorry to blow holes in your enthusiasm. Reality sucks if you haven't taken the time to do some serious work before launching.
Note that the use of a separate payee address for each transaction is a very useful strategy. This is a positive aspect of CryptoNote that adds anonymity, but again it is not so effective without reliable IP obfuscation, as the payee will reveal himself on spending.

Thanks for this post, you didn't blew holes in our enthusiasm. We still belive that this is most interesting technology in crypto-currencies field.

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May 14, 2014, 01:32:21 AM
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Once difficulty becomes too high, aliases will become very hard to create. Shouldn't you be able to register an alias just by paying BBR with your wallet? Shorter aliases should cost much more than longer aliases... So if you want to create a 30 character alias that will be very cheap. But if you want to create a 1 character alias that will be very expensive.
Only one alias per block made to avoid over-loading the blockchain with extra data. Finally it is not DNS and no reason to force all users to keep big database of millions aliases.
Let it be little privilege of power miners or early adepts.

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May 14, 2014, 01:49:51 AM
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HoneyPenny was a great name.... Boolberry is not.  Please revert.  Would suck to see the brilliance of this project hampered by a name. 

HoneyPenny is memorable, innocent, earnest, and also has a slight edge in how brave the team would be to use such a name.

Boolberry is forgettable, overly silly, and seems to lack self-image.  This new name is unfortunate. 

If the team would like some help with marketing I'm offering...

Either way, I'm following and will be mining.

I agree 100%. I liked HoneyPenny too.

 
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Code:
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339355 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339674 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:04.339948 [P2P8]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340737 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340807 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:10.340834 [P2P1]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341167 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/currency_format_utils.cpp:306|make_tx_extra_alias_entry|alias is too big size
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341235 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:776|create_block_template|Failed to construc miner tx, first chance
2014-May-13 21:41:16.341262 [P2P0]ERROR /c/boolberry/src/currency_core/miner.cpp:119|request_block_template|Failed to get_block_template(), stopping mining
2014-May-13 21:41:20.559251 [miner 2]Found block for difficulty: 42749814
2014-May-13 21:41:20.564412 [miner 2]Alias "dqujbyhtdyevqvbsinsrjefmoigbuznknkugekuuraysfvzjbgqyzrzuozhuodcslsmneqmsjkvemkguetiufpcyiyorxidlqjrecvphbgrkikysupzbfefzfjnfjflwqzhtldfcugfsmimzopfwuwabxxwwyatyhfnnuusocohubbvnoeodzsreghavscwftkxjughpbxasotbgnxuccmhavhjfdjutcricuwpeqqadxsjjxpyrapzdmauqasxclmbkfqfzgyhjitrhatakkozccgbcqdgrtmbkdmwsfjzderwplwqedmnptxttcwwtxkuilxnvimkshyblggqbhvytangvdtgeocfhzydziwkabgblkidvbjdngoaskwrygyxyammbkpfadvbjtvsswhklsirdjdawdpdgambxaczjjybcipdmdxyzuewpsbjcxzjuvqzusoayibkimcwumotiyivqaelqdssnxceiuvoehawqgukbjcneosvinqefoahqsuinzlmmcgfkjerxynlecuywroxxjpbvttsnaldpcvzbxjpomfprfqxpkozfhdyznpsmrkmmlfcbcjifvmaufadrzsbapbvhyjfgkfnequemykrvdlshciytrrugoojucaseidtwlsvgnhnicqnnwflcwejuafeqhqqtmqfkcoxhtbdtoeqaiazmzvzbftfasjaytaplrrcslxbdrnfweixjiwjzidzmhznykpjwufrxpruupszelrkljkapmqqpvshrgusawxxrgqrkfqvklohjdffeglatofhjgqaazvnfitjgiqjpafcybedrpiuldneymiffbqgjbtjhcmmhhejvhplmduudhbsscgfzuvzqlzrvebwektdbbihhlbaaitfwmkgrpjqbsswdolwokjlieiybzfrzdemmojpaogwvwhrctewaznwlidxfptyqukmqegaxbrjrrcvljegtqpkmmrgaanppcxwvowomntzozedaqccushokbbatwqrffrweuneenlevdxxfaveduztvequzaxrmhpklidtefjzjazfulivswrgyuejppglocbznafzdutbgdhbtrjwzmowttqdhdmamhatlaoszqpcolcaxlfthreqvmonghkoisoyktfojxamgqhucesmnykigregzswiusmfnyfhcbthqibqbyhfqkbebtjenylgmhkbmpewkryrifeorhtafjgdhauufzsbxtiukyhebuskihhmnuifxwkajekahrcdbsgqwaghusucvsacoynlruxcztwvtybuenmecotzxilpdlinlrcinvjowdojciefdjbrckutdfedjaimcnqxkkfylgkudizjklcioeliacihpjthjuccsedzajqjpqkzbchpdiquomfjekrwowiqcvspwbmvtpsnacgmhidnnrvjwnnfwsmuoxbyuyaphohwodjkgmacxjudryiuooijuprcgmlnoootjiuulqpbzyjmaofqmxvdwvymycwytqourwwbzcouppoesxesljvizxuasogugcdmwnatwhajqmxvjmmbbplfmtzfxkbiyrvrxrurxxjzbyhgkakyenggorrmrybllytablykezzbocopiuldukxwplicfibyqckbbykizfvlmupbcrrnslqavgddfngolphhodvgfyeieatheepmgputugabhkkxgfabtcyvsqdthwhybjnymyjtdyotzswnowuoabnblaofllkwbztlylfmlsxxxumvxamhfghhhsnicsusuurkrdmrbmntpubaabuodhpkjcpbsxputmgraoiiypzpuyvzlbwgoykfbxcqkpmojtgkvbrndoeoofpowzeatgrroaruskuepizlbtafryadmowzjmbeunusnzbctfzpunwiyxktnsmauvukznztjstprrvkduzhayvuhmpnprztziqlzcghgvrvgufxzpvgkuteynyprnpzxvstymywyupvjghtcpiamskuqxbafbhpqeesjlrijeevtncviasiiypsolfyukupgoqrsmfjmaobtanwsineuxdiunmolylvuppuidllhldlfzwjfkookdqgafgthhczbxxztmcjgybisvssmolkflfwipljmmkronfumtwdczqubbauujmgmwhxulbjangxwmjjzrrvjppbuvehustqxxzjhwldcmzshldumpaqazledrvclalsxhpaiemeevaycvhijncclajaeumzoltecbmzexgoypdpgumqkzehdbtrwrlujiutatyfrgunustxkfifsteypgyaeczzbpqbygensbdhrxndocrskdfsmpkyoadahvudnkopeirfywcgyovfignbkgkkssvrgsfxyzysenfeojqswbrwtuxuaxvutjdhxfqaezrdvkxuolvqgwbpkoxlhqmvxhazbllmbavbfaremqvvapgoufogpftmvsodjxpetgllwwucyrzvjukddjbrdqooiaqdzwhxswoxqkzmyxvuqybgfcvzbmwqircgnfbidtptbejbskqpfiawjnntarxmnujnzfiebrorqsughprgbpgzgfmdklkrpgsbmrvlyuakwymsuroegpwqfljypnfgsgbjkaaubafsqhrietxcneikritetlvdgfhnevhwjwjojikmgnhotaysmfkiwlinnaegdddrfhwacgjpysinsuvwstirfeapongybstzbhpcyqrhggzldnbvymzacgaladsfjtdbgplgzkrcxbkdpudmudqmizedmncdjevpghvgzxtowhlggpmpbulzlowtgrorijjamjfyiytorugdrkjzvfeuroviylrfoibtzvjhpuwvtycrvxqbeqdcvvsjmclevsutqphwoxhgcqdqfmywhdnvsmjwohpjdgguuotlitwgtuuavtnogvekaoqlreudtzvqowssrlzfreogsqmiusoufjwcjxxirsdjcllqpxrjmtmkaqawnmjlqtdabhqafbqhxnc" successfully committed to blockchain

Suggestion: length limit and check for valid UTF8 (without whitespace) or US-ASCII only.

EDIT: there was some check according to logs, but still it said successfully committed
Thanks, added alias len check, will add string validating.


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May 14, 2014, 03:05:07 AM
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~520khps for a mingw 64bit gcc4.9 build with 8 3GHz penryn cores.
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LOL....I can't stop laughing at this new name.

This might actually be a good thing!
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