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[cocoakrispies]

Can we have a time for the release date please?

[TTM]

Can we have a time for the release date please?

It's on OP.

[crypto_zoidberg]

Good news. Wallets aliases is ready. Now it is possible to register 1 alias in per block. And as well it is possible to reassign alias to another address if you can proof that last you own last alias's wallet - so sign new update alias message with prev address secret key.
So, we almost done.
Test net will be started ASAP, today night or tomorrow. 
Merged all last changes from develop branch to master, but it is not release yet. It is just for test net fun.

PS: Release will come with little surprise

[crypto_zoidberg]

I think it's an interesting way to implement a way to keep you involved, and you should absolutely not be ashamed. I just hope that you will be willing and ready, when it comes time, to suggest a recommended percentage. It's no small responsibility, asking for taxes. It requires you to be honest with yourself and everyone . . or at least convince them you are.

What I'm saying is that by making the % changeable based on the miner's choice (this is the approach I'm assuming you're taking -- correct me if i'm wrong), you will need to provide them with definitions of what every percentage that isn't 0 or 10% according to what it means to you. I could only see this working if you're capable of asking for 3.56% tax, or 7.692% tax based on definitions we all come to agree on. No taxation without representation is what's coming to mind -- are you capable of defending your right to demand that which we have every right to refuse?

I've seen a similar approach in MemoryCoin 2. Are you familiar with that? The fact that freetrade manipulated votes and pretty much dropped the coin, in addition to it losing a lot of momentum, when he got voted out is what I'm worried about. What types of parallels/differences do you expect with your coin? I'm just curious is all.

Any kind of taxes is not acceptable for such projects i believe, it smells bad and we don't want to force anyone to pay us. It's always better if people want to donate by themselves.
You right, there are nonzero risk that almost all miners could turn off support off donations.
But seriously what reasons could have miners to stop supporting development ? ...
As for me it is win-win, more features - more coin value. Correct me if i'm wrong.
I see one real reason to stop donations - if developers going to do something wrong, hardfork for example.
This mechanism is like Social Contract by J-J Rousseau (figuratively) - we develop and operate network, folk use it and control it. It's pure Crypto-democracy
Isn't it ?

It's tough to track down differences in the original code with the way you brought into your github. As far as I can tell immediately all that was removed was one character, a "-". I see there's more, but it will take time to find the changes.

We do most of development in branches, and when it done i merge it to "master". So take a look "develop" branch to track our development in real time.
I've just merged all code into the master branch so you can check this out.

Sorry, I must have read that wrong the first time. I did not understand before, but it seems to make more sense now. It's still a little unclear, but I can understand better the source when you're ready.

Thanks for the responses, it's nice to see a pre-ann discussion full of more than "looks nice" or "can't wait for this one".

You can check sources and any feedback is wellcome!

[crypto_zoidberg]

Goog news!
We've started test network.
To enter: run  hpd --add-priority-node=107.170.97.197:10101
Windows binaries: http://honeypenny.org/downloads/hp_test_start.zip

[emontmon]

what is hpd

[crypto_zoidberg]

what is hpd

HoneyPenny Daemon - just short name of target.

PS: Forgot to push last commit Very sorry! Anyway - it's just test start, so this money will not becomy a real.
I've seen some fails in logs, so please git pull and try again to connect.
Sorry again

[poochpocket]

Maybe this is a stupid question but ...will coins mined on the test network be valid, or will the slate be wiped clean at launch?

[crypto_zoidberg]

Maybe this is a stupid question but ...will coins mined on the test network be valid, or will the slate be wiped clean at launch?

It' just a test start, on monday i'll change genesis block and restart blockchain, so don't care about coins in this test launch, it's gonna vanish after genesis change.

[poochpocket]

Maybe this is a stupid question but ...will coins mined on the test network be valid, or will the slate be wiped clean at launch?

It' just a test start, on monday i'll change genesis block and restart blockchain, so don't care about coins in this test launch, it's gonna vanish after genesis change.

Got it.
I have it up and running and "start_mining 4" shows that 4 threads started. Only issue I have is that "show_hr" doesn't display anything.

[SlyWax]

Hello friends.
We are pleased to introduce HoneyPenny

A better name maybe ?

• Donation-based crowdfunding: the project will not have premine, instamine or other unfair launch. The project has open and transparent model of project financing: part of the emission (10%) is reserved for the development of the project, BUT the rate of emission of these coins will be controled by network participants (miners). Namely, miners will indicate the amount of coins to be given to developers in each block that they found. Maximum donation size for each block is determined by nominal donations formula, based on entire emission formula. This policy allows better communication between community and project development team. Finally if a miner is not happy  - he can reduce donation to zero.
  As a tribute to technology, we have fixed royalty percentage of donation, charged to the founders of Cryptonote.

I see a problem here :
Even if all the miners decided to give 0% donation, you will still be able to mine with a 10% more block reward than any other miners.
And I guess if you make a pool miner you will set this to 10% and possibly you could attract all the miners in your pool by giving them 1% or more bonus from your donation.

This cry-out centralisation to me !!!

[crypto_zoidberg]

Maybe this is a stupid question but ...will coins mined on the test network be valid, or will the slate be wiped clean at launch?

It' just a test start, on monday i'll change genesis block and restart blockchain, so don't care about coins in this test launch, it's gonna vanish after genesis change.

Got it.
I have it up and running and "start_mining 4" shows that 4 threads started. Only issue I have is that "show_hr" doesn't display anything.

Fixed.
Also fixed some major bugs and relaunched test network.
PS: For more effective mining at first have to change blockchain storage critical section to shared lock/exclusive lock and check all read-only operations with shared lock. Will be done after launch.

[crypto_zoidberg]

I see a problem here :
Even if all the miners decided to give 0% donation, you will still be able to mine with a 10% more block reward than any other miners.
And I guess if you make a pool miner you will set this to 10% and possibly you could attract all the miners in your pool by giving them 1% or more bonus from your donation.

This cry-out centralisation to me !!!

As for me now it is easier to be friendly with all pools to get donations from them, than build ours own pool.
But you right, it's a possible problem. Have any ideas how to improve this point ?

[emontmon]

apply a random number of rounds 1 through 10 that go to developers. in reality, you do not need crowd funding. this will relegate you to secondary currency. you knowledge and early participation will assure your profits. while a fair launch without taxes will attract miners which will improve you success.

[JjCcc]

That's a great idea emontmon.

[otila]

refresh command does not work in simplewallet: "Error: refresh failed: no connection to daemon. Please, make sure daemon is running. Blocks received: 0"

Code:

2014-Apr-27 17:10:06.495220 [RPC0]ERROR /c/honeypenny/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:1076 Client sent wrong NOTIFY_REQUEST_CHAIN: genesis block missmatch: 
id: <1631d481a9601cbbb5b24e49b9a39a85cfe221e64f57b44c5849ac8528c45c92>, 
expected: <830ec1d9917286cd95ac0128022900dc452c33d9d29974ae304bff430fc10353>,
 dropping connection
2014-Apr-27 17:10:06.495294 [RPC0]ERROR /c/honeypenny/src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h:36 Failed to on_get_blocks()

(yes, I deleted blockchain.bin)

also, link fails for several programs because -lpthread is not used
I added -lpthread into src/CMakeLists.txt (lines with target_link_libraries) but there is probably a better way

[crypto_zoidberg]

Hello friends.
We are pleased to introduce HoneyPenny

A better name maybe ?

Maybe.
Ready to pay our first "pennies" for good project name (and place "thanks to" to main projects page)!
But we don't want another "blabla"-coin, so much xxxcoins here.
Feel free to post name candidates here or send in private.

[crypto_zoidberg]

refresh command does not work in simplewallet: "Error: refresh failed: no connection to daemon. Please, make sure daemon is running. Blocks received: 0"

Code:

2014-Apr-27 17:10:06.495220 [RPC0]ERROR /c/honeypenny/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:1076 Client sent wrong NOTIFY_REQUEST_CHAIN: genesis block missmatch: 
id: <1631d481a9601cbbb5b24e49b9a39a85cfe221e64f57b44c5849ac8528c45c92>, 
expected: <830ec1d9917286cd95ac0128022900dc452c33d9d29974ae304bff430fc10353>,
 dropping connection
2014-Apr-27 17:10:06.495294 [RPC0]ERROR /c/honeypenny/src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h:36 Failed to on_get_blocks()

(yes, I deleted blockchain.bin)

also, link fails for several programs because -lpthread is not used
I added -lpthread into src/CMakeLists.txt (lines with target_link_libraries) but there is probably a better way

Thank you for reporting problem, will fix it asap.

[Xdragon]

Hi, at what time is launch?

[crypto_zoidberg]

refresh command does not work in simplewallet: "Error: refresh failed: no connection to daemon. Please, make sure daemon is running. Blocks received: 0"

Code:

2014-Apr-27 17:10:06.495220 [RPC0]ERROR /c/honeypenny/src/currency_core/blockchain_storage.cpp:1076 Client sent wrong NOTIFY_REQUEST_CHAIN: genesis block missmatch: 
id: <1631d481a9601cbbb5b24e49b9a39a85cfe221e64f57b44c5849ac8528c45c92>, 
expected: <830ec1d9917286cd95ac0128022900dc452c33d9d29974ae304bff430fc10353>,
 dropping connection
2014-Apr-27 17:10:06.495294 [RPC0]ERROR /c/honeypenny/src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h:36 Failed to on_get_blocks()

(yes, I deleted blockchain.bin)

also, link fails for several programs because -lpthread is not used
I added -lpthread into src/CMakeLists.txt (lines with target_link_libraries) but there is probably a better way

Thank you for reporting problem, will fix it asap.

I've discovered the problem.
Since today we've made some major fixes genesis id had changed(and thats why we've restarted the net again). The wallet keeps (in wallet_name.bin file) his own block chain(not full blocks, just block ids) to be able to handle some splits in daemon.
So you probably have been generated your wallet with sources before todays fixes. It's not a big problem - just remove your wallet_name.bin file (DO NOT KILL wallet_name.bin.keys file) and reopen wallet. This case is not a typical problem - genesis block is not subject to change in normal life. But, it is now possible to open the wallet from different network (such as bytecon or bitmonero) that will cause the same errors, so we will add extra info to wallet to avoid this.
Let me know if problem is not gone.