[BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014

[windjc]

Hi! BBR is a very interesting project, but I am afraid that without a robust dev team it will never take off.

Interesting to learn over the last 2 year that dev team is just as important as solid tech.

With BBR being part of supernet and all that, it could have a real pole position.

Anybody have any ideas on how to tie together an outwardly visible dev team?

I don't know the details so correct me if I am wrong, but did Zoidberg step in to BBR after original dev had left, or did he write it himself?

Would be nice to motivate him and a few others to do more consistent stuff, nobody will buy this without such.

Gentleman, party starts here at may-june.

BBR is planned to be the VTC 2.0 mega-pump of 2016.

It would be great to have a visible team and some promotion to new users so the price can stabilize at 20K-30K after the mega-pump, and not come back ever again at these ridiculous prices!!

The pump is 100% assured, my bet is that it will touch 130K-150K.

Not kidding, this is exactly the same as VTC last year. Look at charts and general situation of both coins, and you'll know what I mean.

Well, here is the deal. Crypto Zoidberg was the original and only real dev on this project. For the last year or more he has been paid to develop a new cryptonote currency called Lui, that is still in development. He has not had the time to add on to the BBR project during this time.

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, some of which he is developing for Lui. Meanwhile he recommended to me another cryptonote developer that he says is highly skilled. I have spoken to this gentleman who has expressed interest. However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR. I posted a request for community feedback a week or so ago, but so far the only response I received on here was from a couple of Monero trolls that for some reason still read this thread.

I am just a messenger. But its up to the community what we want to do. I am willing to help, but I can't do it on my own.

Jon

[damashup]

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, some of which he is developing for Lui. Meanwhile he recommended to me another cryptonote developer that he says is highly skilled. I have spoken to this gentleman who has expressed interest. However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR.
Jon

Db implementation and a "fully enhanced anonymous transaction wallet" sound like a good starting point to get development back on track. What would be useful (for a non-technical person like me) is a couple of paragraphs from either CZ or the new dev explaining the benefits of these new features and the gaps they plug.

What would also be useful is to understand whether there are any other deficiencies in the existing code base/ design that would prohibit scalability of the coin or undermine the anonymity of transactions? If there are, it would be good to address these as a priority on the roadmap.

Seeing something tangible from the Dev team (like a new code release) would go a long way to regaining the trust and getting more engagement from "the community" IMO.

Now a few questions:

1) What enhanced features will be brought across from Lui?

2) Will CZ return to BBR after Lui launches? People invest in people. IMO CZ is key to the success of BBR as things stand so it would be good to know where he stands in relation to BBR.

3) When is Lui launching? Looking at that thread there appear to have been a few false starts. It would be good to know as the availability of new features and CZ seem dependent on it. 

4) Who is the new dev? Will he work alongside CZ (now and when/ if CZ returns)? It would be good if he popped by to say hi.

5) Is serious consideration being given to improving communication, marketing and PR? It's been piss poor over the last year or so. It is not realistic to expect people to invest money, time and energy into a coin (or to attract new investment) when there is zero information coming back from the dev team. No one expects detailed updates every week, however some kind of communication once a month or once a quarter would not be unreasonable. If not on this thread then on the Boolberry website.  

6) Speaking of the website, has any consideration be given to updating it? A good lick of paint and keeping it up-to-date would go a long way to giving the right first impression to new potential investors.

Thanks

[VultureFund]

Gentleman, party starts here at may-june.

BBR is planned to be the VTC 2.0 mega-pump of 2016.

It would be great to have a visible team and some promotion to new users so the price can stabilize at 20K-30K after the mega-pump, and not come back ever again at these ridiculous prices!!

The pump is 100% assured, my bet is that it will touch 130K-150K.

Not kidding, this is exactly the same as VTC last year. Look at charts and general situation of both coins, and you'll know what I mean.

Hi all

This dude is a total wanker I first saw his posts over on the Clam thread, He made all sorts of predictions/threats about price. He finally left after losing the bet and proving that his predictions where shit. He carried on

about making hundreds of BTC per month with his pump & dump crew. Do yourselves a favor and ignore him, there's even a little button under his name to help with that.

Cheers Jon  
 

LOL man all I said was that CLAMS was a total shitcoin and it won't pass the level of 0.003 ever again, while everyone was expecting to do so. I gave the fair value of clams (0.0007-0.0008) and I left from that shithole.

Result: After three months of intense pumping of everything, CLAMS has moved to 0.0025-0.003 to 0.0015-0.002, without surpassing 0.003 level ever again. Nice progression man, but still overvaluated.

To BBR people: BBR is the best cryptonote outthere, the only thing necessary is a visible dev team, a visible promotion team, and a rise on prices. Don't worry about third point, it will happen. In fact is very very easy to "ressurrect" this coin.

[clintar2]

I've implemented Onishin's keepalive miner function to https://bbr.cncoin.farm if anyone would like to test the miner it for me, I'd appreciate it.

You can get it at https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive and let me know if you get any issues. Any takers? I've got a cpu miner I haven't pushed yet, too. I'll get to that tomorrow.

It's just supposed to ping the server every once in a while so it doesn't time out and disconnect. You use the -K (capital K) option to enable the keepalive.

[windjc]

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, some of which he is developing for Lui. Meanwhile he recommended to me another cryptonote developer that he says is highly skilled. I have spoken to this gentleman who has expressed interest. However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR.
Jon

Db implementation and a "fully enhanced anonymous transaction wallet" sound like a good starting point to get development back on track. What would be useful (for a non-technical person like me) is a couple of paragraphs from either CZ or the new dev explaining the benefits of these new features and the gaps they plug.

What would also be useful is to understand whether there are any other deficiencies in the existing code base/ design that would prohibit scalability of the coin or undermine the anonymity of transactions? If there are, it would be good to address these as a priority on the roadmap.

Seeing something tangible from the Dev team (like a new code release) would go a long way to regaining the trust and getting more engagement from "the community" IMO.

Now a few questions:

1) What enhanced features will be brought across from Lui?

2) Will CZ return to BBR after Lui launches? People invest in people. IMO CZ is key to the success of BBR as things stand so it would be good to know where he stands in relation to BBR.

3) When is Lui launching? Looking at that thread there appear to have been a few false starts. It would be good to know as the availability of new features and CZ seem dependent on it. 

4) Who is the new dev? Will he work alongside CZ (now and when/ if CZ returns)? It would be good if he popped by to say hi.

5) Is serious consideration being given to improving communication, marketing and PR? It's been piss poor over the last year or so. It is not realistic to expect people to invest money, time and energy into a coin (or to attract new investment) when there is zero information coming back from the dev team. No one expects detailed updates every week, however some kind of communication once a month or once a quarter would not be unreasonable. If not on this thread then on the Boolberry website.  

6) Speaking of the website, has any consideration be given to updating it? A good lick of paint and keeping it up-to-date would go a long way to giving the right first impression to new potential investors.

Thanks

Great questions. I don't have complete answers yet. PM me if you'd like and we can perhaps chat on skype in more detail. Cheers.

Jon

[@bb]

I've implemented Onishin's keepalive miner function to https://bbr.cncoin.farm if anyone would like to test the miner it for me, I'd appreciate it.

You can get it at https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive and let me know if you get any issues. Any takers? I've got a cpu miner I haven't pushed yet, too. I'll get to that tomorrow.

It's just supposed to ping the server every once in a while so it doesn't time out and disconnect. You use the -K (capital K) option to enable the keepalive.

I tried to git clone but these errors occur :
Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab094.7 x86_64)

root@server2:~# git clone https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive
Cloning into 'keepalive'...
fatal: repository 'https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive/' not found
root@server2:~#

[clintar2]

I've implemented Onishin's keepalive miner function to https://bbr.cncoin.farm if anyone would like to test the miner it for me, I'd appreciate it.

You can get it at https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive and let me know if you get any issues. Any takers? I've got a cpu miner I haven't pushed yet, too. I'll get to that tomorrow.

It's just supposed to ping the server every once in a while so it doesn't time out and disconnect. You use the -K (capital K) option to enable the keepalive.

I tried to git clone but these errors occur :
Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab094.7 x86_64)

root@server2:~# git clone https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive
Cloning into 'keepalive'...
fatal: repository 'https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive/' not found
root@server2:~#

Sorry, you would need to

Code:

git clone -b keepalive https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer.git

I also now have an opencl version ready to test.

Code:

git clone -b keepalive https://github.com/clintar/cpuminer-multi-opencl.git

These should help if your miner disconnects after a while of not submitting shares.

[@bb]

I've implemented Onishin's keepalive miner function to https://bbr.cncoin.farm if anyone would like to test the miner it for me, I'd appreciate it.

You can get it at https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive and let me know if you get any issues. Any takers? I've got a cpu miner I haven't pushed yet, too. I'll get to that tomorrow.

It's just supposed to ping the server every once in a while so it doesn't time out and disconnect. You use the -K (capital K) option to enable the keepalive.

I tried to git clone but these errors occur :
Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 2.6.32-042stab094.7 x86_64)

root@server2:~# git clone https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive
Cloning into 'keepalive'...
fatal: repository 'https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer/tree/keepalive/' not found
root@server2:~#

Sorry, you would need to

Code:

git clone -b keepalive https://github.com/clintar/bbr-cudaminer.git

I also now have an opencl version ready to test.

Code:

git clone -b keepalive https://github.com/clintar/cpuminer-multi-opencl.git

These should help if your miner disconnects after a while of not submitting shares.

Ok. I got it, now it is running here is the screenshot https://www.sendspace.com/file/duwwb1

Looks stable. Lets see tomorrow.

[shojayxt]

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, some of which he is developing for Lui. Meanwhile he recommended to me another cryptonote developer that he says is highly skilled. I have spoken to this gentleman who has expressed interest. However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR. I posted a request for community feedback a week or so ago, but so far the only response I received on here was from a couple of Monero trolls that for some reason still read this thread.

I am just a messenger. But its up to the community what we want to do. I am willing to help, but I can't do it on my own.

Jon

I think DB implementation is a good starting point.  Another feature that would be nice would be the ability to change the wallet password on current wallets.  Boolberry has Aliases and there isn't any method that I'm aware of to change the password on those unique wallets.  Going forward it would be nice to have a mnemonic seed generated with new wallets so you could change the password by using the mnemonic seed to recreate the wallet.

 

[@bb]

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, some of which he is developing for Lui. Meanwhile he recommended to me another cryptonote developer that he says is highly skilled. I have spoken to this gentleman who has expressed interest. However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR. I posted a request for community feedback a week or so ago, but so far the only response I received on here was from a couple of Monero trolls that for some reason still read this thread.

I am just a messenger. But its up to the community what we want to do. I am willing to help, but I can't do it on my own.

Jon

I think DB implementation is a good starting point.  Another feature that would be nice would be the ability to change the wallet password on current wallets.  Boolberry has Aliases and there isn't any method that I'm aware of to change the password on those unique wallets.  Going forward it would be nice to have a mnemonic seed generated with new wallets so you could change the password by using the mnemonic seed to recreate the wallet.

 

+1

Escort or multisig would be very nice, for example I want to sell my AMD 5870 for 5000 BBR, payment made but locked until delivery received by buyer, maybe signed by courier to unlock it or by escort service (third party) with all document proof.

[shojayxt]

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, some of which he is developing for Lui. Meanwhile he recommended to me another cryptonote developer that he says is highly skilled. I have spoken to this gentleman who has expressed interest. However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR. I posted a request for community feedback a week or so ago, but so far the only response I received on here was from a couple of Monero trolls that for some reason still read this thread.

I am just a messenger. But its up to the community what we want to do. I am willing to help, but I can't do it on my own.

Jon

I think DB implementation is a good starting point.  Another feature that would be nice would be the ability to change the wallet password on current wallets.  Boolberry has Aliases and there isn't any method that I'm aware of to change the password on those unique wallets.  Going forward it would be nice to have a mnemonic seed generated with new wallets so you could change the password by using the mnemonic seed to recreate the wallet.

 

Another thing that would be a nice addition would be the GPU solo mining with the daemon like MBK has implemented https://github.com/mbkuperman/boolberry-opencl   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=693118.msg8339439#msg8339439

 

[clintar2]

Ok. I got it, now it is running here is the screenshot https://www.sendspace.com/file/duwwb1

Looks stable. Lets see tomorrow.

Thanks, can you tell me which one you are running? I've seen a crash with the cudaminer when hitting a low difficulty share. I think I might have a fix, but haven't tested enough since a real low difficulty share doesn't happen very often.

Oh, looking at the screenshot, I guess it's the cudaminer. Any issues since last night?

Edit: I actually submitted a fix. It should reconnect instead of crash now.

[@bb]

Ok. I got it, now it is running here is the screenshot https://www.sendspace.com/file/duwwb1

Looks stable. Lets see tomorrow.

Thanks, can you tell me which one you are running? I've seen a crash with the cudaminer when hitting a low difficulty share. I think I might have a fix, but haven't tested enough since a real low difficulty share doesn't happen very often.

Oh, looking at the screenshot, I guess it's the cudaminer. Any issues since last night?

Edit: I actually submitted a fix. It should reconnect instead of crash now.

It was crashed last night after json error and scratchpad mismatch messages, here is the screenshot https://www.sendspace.com/file/ze2d4l

Do you need the coredump ? If yes please tell me where it is located.

[clintar2]

Ok. I got it, now it is running here is the screenshot https://www.sendspace.com/file/duwwb1

Looks stable. Lets see tomorrow.

Thanks, can you tell me which one you are running? I've seen a crash with the cudaminer when hitting a low difficulty share. I think I might have a fix, but haven't tested enough since a real low difficulty share doesn't happen very often.

Oh, looking at the screenshot, I guess it's the cudaminer. Any issues since last night?

Edit: I actually submitted a fix. It should reconnect instead of crash now.

It was crashed last night after json error and scratchpad mismatch messages, here is the screenshot https://www.sendspace.com/file/ze2d4l

Do you need the coredump ? If yes please tell me where it is located.

Nope, but could you try the latest version I put out, please?

[crypto_zoidberg]

Hey folk!

I was talking with windjc, since at the moment i don't have time to do fulltime development, we may be need to rise some funds and hire dev for most critical tasks.
The primary tasks is to put DB into the code, and implement "dark mode" for wallet.
But db is really critical.

I can help a bit with development, but still need experienced full time C++ dev for a 2 months at least i guess.

Zoidberg

[damashup]

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, [...] However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR.
Jon

Db implementation and a "fully enhanced anonymous transaction wallet" sound like a good starting point to get development back on track. What would be useful (for a non-technical person like me) is [...]

lol

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Since I own some BBR and am actually a real non technical person who has no clue about any of this shit, I'll give some advice that might be helpful. I have enough experience with cryptonote to know that I will get gang attacked if I say the wrong thing, but since I do own some I will try to give one piece of useful advice.

What makes bitcoin somewhat popular is that it actually tries to inspire confidence. It does not do anything overtly sneaky. And if a person were to notice something that seemed problematic, they could point it out and it would get addressed accurately  (talking about general bitcoin issues, not sha2, nsa stuff etc., which will draw out the heavy bullshitters).

When I bought some BBR and downloaded the installer so I could make a backup wallet and take coins off an exchange, I followed the same procedure as with any wallet. a) Install it. b) Run it. c) copy the address so I can send coins then d) make a backup of the wallet. With every coin that is pretty much the basic process.

But with Boolberry when I ran the wallet, in hopes of generating an address I could send coins to and a wallet I could back up, I was not given an address nor a wallet. Instead I got the message "connecting to network" or something.

All wallets connect to a network, if available, of course.

But most wallets will create a wallet for somebody like me who has limited technical skills.

When I mentioned this issue the first time I got some kind of response like "You are mistaken. The wallet can be easily created by doing xyz".  

I went back to the installer and looked for xyz and did not see any way to create a wallet, except by first connecting to a network.

This isn't a small problem that will only bother a few people. If I were genuinely interested in privacy currency, say if I was smuggling kilos of cocaine for the cia or selling guns for the fbi/atf or trying to unload some black market nukes for the kgb, and I needed a privacy centric currency, I would stop right at the point where I realize that a wallet cannot be easily created except by connecting to a network. Then I would just funnel my drug money or whatever through bitcoin.

I may not be entirely "typical", but I am sure I am not the only person who notices this
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tldr / Any coin that makes a novice connect to a network before creating a backup is broken. Fix little shit like that before worrying about things like DB implementation that most people are not so concerned about.

If what you're asking for is the ability to create a secure offline wallet (by this I mean create a wallet on a computer that has never connected to the network or indeed the internet, send money to that wallet's address and at a later stage connect to the network to retrieve your funds) then this is a good suggestion. I can see how this would be useful to some users and it should be added to the list of things to be implemented (if it is possible).

I cannot vouch for whether or not users can create offline wallets  already as I haven't tried it.

From what I understand implementing the database is critical (see CZ post above), thus it should concern all BBR users that this is fixed.

Equally any active development on the coin (and more consistent communication) would be welcome at this juncture - which was the basic jest of my post.
 

[@bb]

I have had recent discussions with CZ and he has intimated to me that once Lui is launched he is interested in bringing enhanced features to BBR, [...] However this developer wanted clear directions from the community about where we wanted to take BBR.
Jon

Db implementation and a "fully enhanced anonymous transaction wallet" sound like a good starting point to get development back on track. What would be useful (for a non-technical person like me) is [...]

lol

-----

Since I own some BBR and am actually a real non technical person who has no clue about any of this shit, I'll give some advice that might be helpful. I have enough experience with cryptonote to know that I will get gang attacked if I say the wrong thing, but since I do own some I will try to give one piece of useful advice.

What makes bitcoin somewhat popular is that it actually tries to inspire confidence. It does not do anything overtly sneaky. And if a person were to notice something that seemed problematic, they could point it out and it would get addressed accurately  (talking about general bitcoin issues, not sha2, nsa stuff etc., which will draw out the heavy bullshitters).

When I bought some BBR and downloaded the installer so I could make a backup wallet and take coins off an exchange, I followed the same procedure as with any wallet. a) Install it. b) Run it. c) copy the address so I can send coins then d) make a backup of the wallet. With every coin that is pretty much the basic process.

But with Boolberry when I ran the wallet, in hopes of generating an address I could send coins to and a wallet I could back up, I was not given an address nor a wallet. Instead I got the message "connecting to network" or something.

All wallets connect to a network, if available, of course.

But most wallets will create a wallet for somebody like me who has limited technical skills.

When I mentioned this issue the first time I got some kind of response like "You are mistaken. The wallet can be easily created by doing xyz". 

I went back to the installer and looked for xyz and did not see any way to create a wallet, except by first connecting to a network.

This isn't a small problem that will only bother a few people. If I were genuinely interested in privacy currency, say if I was smuggling kilos of cocaine for the cia or selling guns for the fbi/atf or trying to unload some black market nukes for the kgb, and I needed a privacy centric currency, I would stop right at the point where I realize that a wallet cannot be easily created except by connecting to a network. Then I would just funnel my drug money or whatever through bitcoin.

I may not be entirely "typical", but I am sure I am not the only person who notices this
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tldr / Any coin that makes a novice connect to a network before creating a backup is broken. Fix little shit like that before worrying about things like DB implementation that most people are not so concerned about.

Simplewallet can run offline and generate wallet address have a look :

root@rootdgc:~/boolberry# ./simplewallet --generate-new-wallet 1
Boolberry wallet v0.3.0.41(abcdeab)
password: *****
Generated new wallet: 1J8hKJ9jCdiPjnYSM6BbfA2i68fwZyLJG7qiYKn6SUHfBRY1Z8DcmaxRBRqPLvzMSbAJ1SbYjM81gYd WCAKFoT9WETcPbMs
view key: 8088aafbae0e6d1a227c494300ce433bdb5a8a303211c19a3e60908e00e3bf05
**********************************************************************
Your wallet has been generated.
To start synchronizing with the daemon use "refresh" command.
Use "help" command to see the list of available commands.
Always use "exit" command when closing simplewallet to save
current session's state. Otherwise, you will possibly need to synchronize
your wallet again. Your wallet key is NOT under risk anyway.
**********************************************************************
[Boolberry wallet 1J8hKJ]:

[damashup]

Simplewallet can run offline and generate wallet address have a look :

root@rootdgc:~/boolberry# ./simplewallet --generate-new-wallet 1
Boolberry wallet v0.3.0.41(abcdeab)
password: *****
Generated new wallet: 1J8hKJ9jCdiPjnYSM6BbfA2i68fwZyLJG7qiYKn6SUHfBRY1Z8DcmaxRBRqPLvzMSbAJ1SbYjM81gYd WCAKFoT9WETcPbMs
view key: 8088aafbae0e6d1a227c494300ce433bdb5a8a303211c19a3e60908e00e3bf05
**********************************************************************
Your wallet has been generated.
To start synchronizing with the daemon use "refresh" command.
Use "help" command to see the list of available commands.
Always use "exit" command when closing simplewallet to save
current session's state. Otherwise, you will possibly need to synchronize
your wallet again. Your wallet key is NOT under risk anyway.
**********************************************************************
[Boolberry wallet 1J8hKJ]:

Great thanks.

Being able to generate an offline wallet via the GUI might be a useful feature.
 

[no-ice-please]

If what you're asking for is the ability to create a secure offline wallet (by this I mean create a wallet on a computer that has never connected to the network or indeed the internet, send money to that wallet's address and at a later stage connect to the network to retrieve your funds) then this is a good suggestion. I can see how this would be useful to some users [...]
 

 

Simplewallet can run offline and generate wallet address have a look :

root@rootdgc:~/boolberry# ./simplewallet --generate-new-wallet 1 [...technical stuff...]

Thanks. Maybe the basic question is whether you are designing a coin for 20 people who know tech or for 20,000 who don't.

[iCEBREAKER]

If what you're asking for is the ability to create a secure offline wallet (by this I mean create a wallet on a computer that has never connected to the network or indeed the internet, send money to that wallet's address and at a later stage connect to the network to retrieve your funds) then this is a good suggestion. I can see how this would be useful to some users [...]
 

 

Simplewallet can run offline and generate wallet address have a look :

root@rootdgc:~/boolberry# ./simplewallet --generate-new-wallet 1 [...technical stuff...]

Thanks. Maybe the basic question is whether you are designing a coin for 20 people who know tech or for 20,000 who don't.

You initially design the coin for the 20 people who are capable of building the tools (pool/gui/miner/exchange) for the next 20k early adopters.

That's how Bitcoin happened.

It took decades before Yahoo Mail make it easy for Grandma to SMTP/POP.

Until then, we had to use our brains.