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Karmashares seems interesting, however, how would you prove that you own these shares to sell generates shares (or sell them all if you want in the future)? For example, if I was the owner of THESE shares then where is the proof? A screen shot of you wallet or something like that? Because that could easily be photo-shopped/faked. The shares are attached to the wallet, which will be viewable to all in the Share Explorer. This is powered by the blockchain. You can prove you own the wallet address (by signing a message) so would be able to prove that you have the shares. And while it can be proven that the coins have been transferred for shares what's to stop you closing the shares scheme down and keeping all the coins?? Enforceable and binding legal agreements. And common sense.
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April 23, 2014, 05:37:36 PM |
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i am new to karmacoin/karmashares, recently i sent 5m karm to karmashare, i am wondering if i send more (before april 26th) will they be added to my previous investment and downloadable pdf?
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yes ... make sure u send it from the same Wallet you send the first 5m from ....
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April 23, 2014, 05:42:45 PM |
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i am new to karmacoin/karmashares, recently i sent 5m karm to karmashare, i am wondering if i send more (before april 26th) will they be added to my previous investment and downloadable pdf?
thanks!
yes ... make sure u send it from the same Wallet you send the first 5m from .... great! thanks for your help!
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April 23, 2014, 05:43:40 PM |
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Hmm, ok interesting. The 5million seems like a lot of invest in initially as there is no guarantee that you guys will not steal out money. Please do not take this as offence, it's just that there are a lot of scammers out there coming out with unique ways to take people's money, but I would probably put 1 mil in on a little gamble as it doesn't cost much and I bought a load when they were about 10 lsats.
That is understood. Generally speaking, where there is high risk there is high reward. You don't need to invest anything. (In fact, you should probably not buy altcoins at all. Government bonds are much more safe investment.)
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kosmost
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April 23, 2014, 05:47:08 PM |
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i am new to karmacoin/karmashares, recently i sent 5m karm to karmashare, i am wondering if i send more (before april 26th) will they be added to my previous investment and downloadable pdf?
thanks!
Your ownership is via your wallet address. When we have the Share Explorer you'll be able to link your wallets to see your total shares, but unfortunately the confirmation needs to be separate. Per the LLC operating agreement that we're doing for Karmashares membership (ownership) is the owner of the wallet address, and the blockchain is the publicly-accessible member register. I know it sounds weird. But it could be the future.
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April 23, 2014, 05:48:03 PM |
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Hmm, ok interesting. The 5million seems like a lot of invest in initially as there is no guarantee that you guys will not steal out money. Please do not take this as offence, it's just that there are a lot of scammers out there coming out with unique ways to take people's money, but I would probably put 1 mil in on a little gamble as it doesn't cost much and I bought a load when they were about 10 lsats.
You say you bought a load when they were only 10 litoshis and you think putting 5 million Karmacoin is too much!?! How can you say both things in the same sentence?... 5 million Karm cost you less than 10 dollars at 10 litoshi each man!!! You are being allowed to be part of a LLC that can grow like crazy (luckily!) for less than 10 dollars and you are complaining it is too much money to bet? What the ****! Seriously...lol Why the derision? Because I find it ludicrous that someone is complaining that investing around 7 dollars is too much, stating they "can not trust" the team behind Karmashares, when the team has shown a gigantic amount of good will, excellent ideas unlike what I have seen in the crypto world lately, and worked tirelessly. No need to disparage someone for what they feel is too much to invest. Keep the thread friendly.
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April 23, 2014, 05:54:16 PM |
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Karmashares seems interesting, however, how would you prove that you own these shares to sell generates shares (or sell them all if you want in the future)? For example, if I was the owner of THESE shares then where is the proof? A screen shot of you wallet or something like that? Because that could easily be photo-shopped/faked. The shares are attached to the wallet, which will be viewable to all in the Share Explorer. This is powered by the blockchain. You can prove you own the wallet address (by signing a message) so would be able to prove that you have the shares. And while it can be proven that the coins have been transferred for shares what's to stop you closing the shares scheme down and keeping all the coins?? Enforceable and binding legal agreements. And common sense. please dont take my post as a negative i'm just trying to get some facts. i've seen a few things recently that looked good turn sour, minersbit for one i was so very close to sending them some money before it crashed as it happens i ended up investing the money i'd transfered in to karmacoins when the price was 1sat only for the price to then drop to the lows it's been recently i keep coming back here time and time again, mining the coins buying when they are low all based on the trust you guys ask us to put in you but every time i see the value of my effort dropping more and more, so forgive me for asking so many questions.
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April 23, 2014, 05:55:30 PM |
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watching this thread - interesting concept.
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April 23, 2014, 05:55:42 PM |
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All questions are good to be asked here, we are relax and full of good KARMA !
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April 23, 2014, 05:56:33 PM |
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51d47505ea ... KNQ9NzTnaA2hoWW3MrZufjDHEr23xv6hwV 20,000 11 220 0.00% 0.00% 4dbe4d80c4 ... KNQ9NzTnaA2hoWW3MrZufjDHEr23xv6hwV 5,431,000 12 65,172 0.04% 0.22% 5cf534f01e ... K9yr1sVxFZHHgVTBS4PQNCd6eWNfkTTrUp 60000099 13 780001 0.42% 2.64% da5b541bcc ... KRBj52iMPNv8vLDo5PT2WRHQZ8eCk56ezL 77219039 14 1081067 0.58% 3.66% 54ca9ec427 ... KEiY1B5QQMv7RwL27T7FThkLjPWh21LrXS 10,000,000 15 150,000 0.08% 0.51% 00e15e42f5 ... KGGgHuC1mPzGVbRpPM9Ci2yZLDkBYxu7ad 5,000,000 16 80,000 0.04% 0.27% bf91bede09 ... KEiY1B5QQMv7RwL27T7FThkLjPWh21LrXS 5,000,000 17 85,000 0.05% 0.29% 4a84067060 ... KJdHDP8CVJm5ZPLbUTDbZwkwrigBfeqXr8 5940091 18 106,922 0.06% 0.36% 9b7a24a6ae ... KQ7Upr34DJAWFjTPVYfdLnD6tnUDfq1bKS 10,000,000 19 190,000 0.10% 0.64% 总 2879892321 29551202 15.93% 100.00%
Not x10?
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April 23, 2014, 05:59:38 PM |
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51d47505ea ... KNQ9NzTnaA2hoWW3MrZufjDHEr23xv6hwV 20,000 11 220 0.00% 0.00% 4dbe4d80c4 ... KNQ9NzTnaA2hoWW3MrZufjDHEr23xv6hwV 5,431,000 12 65,172 0.04% 0.22% 5cf534f01e ... K9yr1sVxFZHHgVTBS4PQNCd6eWNfkTTrUp 60000099 13 780001 0.42% 2.64% da5b541bcc ... KRBj52iMPNv8vLDo5PT2WRHQZ8eCk56ezL 77219039 14 1081067 0.58% 3.66% 54ca9ec427 ... KEiY1B5QQMv7RwL27T7FThkLjPWh21LrXS 10,000,000 15 150,000 0.08% 0.51% 00e15e42f5 ... KGGgHuC1mPzGVbRpPM9Ci2yZLDkBYxu7ad 5,000,000 16 80,000 0.04% 0.27% bf91bede09 ... KEiY1B5QQMv7RwL27T7FThkLjPWh21LrXS 5,000,000 17 85,000 0.05% 0.29% 4a84067060 ... KJdHDP8CVJm5ZPLbUTDbZwkwrigBfeqXr8 5940091 18 106,922 0.06% 0.36% 9b7a24a6ae ... KQ7Upr34DJAWFjTPVYfdLnD6tnUDfq1bKS 10,000,000 19 190,000 0.10% 0.64% 总 2879892321 29551202 15.93% 100.00%
Not x10?
1 karmashare = 1000 karmacoins, so now, in the x10 period, were are : 1000 karmacoins = 10 karmashares !
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April 23, 2014, 06:06:03 PM |
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Kosmost and the rest of the karma team have to be one most TRUSTWORTHY groups on this forum. They really are.
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April 23, 2014, 06:09:15 PM |
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We force nobody to join our projects ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) If we work as hell, it is not to escape in 1 month dumping coins. Why ? Because we will ALL win way more with good karma and really good projects !
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April 23, 2014, 06:18:54 PM |
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please dont take my post as a negative i'm just trying to get some facts. i've seen a few things recently that looked good turn sour, minersbit for one i was so very close to sending them some money before it crashed as it happens i ended up investing the money i'd transfered in to karmacoins when the price was 1sat only for the price to then drop to the lows it's been recently i keep coming back here time and time again, mining the coins buying when they are low all based on the trust you guys ask us to put in you but every time i see the value of my effort dropping more and more, so forgive me for asking so many questions.
Your questions and concerns are fine. We can address them. However, I don't think we're asking you to put your trust in us. I suppose, essentially, that is what it amounts to. But for me, what's more important is that the situation is logical and that any questions or concerns can be explained and satisfied. At the end of the day, though. You don't need to do anything that you're not comfortable with.
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April 23, 2014, 06:38:34 PM |
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"I don't think we're asking you to put your trust in us..."
I gotta call you out on that line of horseshit. The basic idea behind "give us your money and we will pay you back money" is based on the first half trusting the second half, Asking people to put trust in you is EXACTLY, to the letter, what you are doing.
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April 23, 2014, 06:47:04 PM |
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guys keep calm. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 23, 2014, 06:47:06 PM |
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"I don't think we're asking you to put your trust in us..."
I gotta call you out on that line of horseshit. The basic idea behind "give us your money and we will pay you back money" is based on the first half trusting the second half, Asking people to put trust in you is EXACTLY, to the letter, what you are doing.
If you do not want to trust it is your choice. No one will ask you directly nor make any kind of pressure for you to invest. Kosmot is not specifically asking anyone to trust him or any other member.
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April 23, 2014, 06:52:42 PM |
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i must say. karmacoin had such a good vibe until recent few days
Not sure why the negativity. karmashare took weeks to be implemented. we have had questions, pools and numerous article about it. its not like it sprouted all of the sudden.
the main goal of it is to allow our goals to grow bigger. we all believe in doing good? we all want to create this network of good deeds. We can not do it with karmacoin because karmacoin is a currencie and it will not ever evolve into anything else then a currency. you can only transfer monetary value with it.
by introducing karmashare and declairing that karmacoin will be the solely form of currencies to be used we added an other value of the coins. the coin is not only valued as a BTC value but now you could trade it for LLC shares
We can take the karmashareLLC mainstream and grow in network with it. By doing that , we give additional values to karmacoin. the more we push our LLC to be profitable the more people would want to get karmacoin and invest them into the shares.
We have removed the binding shackles from the BTC traders and miners and we are adding more dynamic to the karmacoin. We removed the power of miner/traders to control the coin value and added a new factor,the shares.
What is easier to evolve : karmacoin as a cryptocurencie or karmcoin's blockchain utility to create shares?
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April 23, 2014, 06:54:03 PM |
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Helping release tension in our crypto-world, I will present you soon my new project : It is called KarmaCarrot... Few minutes more to wait and I show it here and on our reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Karmashares
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April 23, 2014, 06:55:06 PM |
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"I don't think we're asking you to put your trust in us..."
I gotta call you out on that line of horseshit. The basic idea behind "give us your money and we will pay you back money" is based on the first half trusting the second half, Asking people to put trust in you is EXACTLY, to the letter, what you are doing.
If you do not want to trust it is your choice. No one will ask you directly nor make any kind of pressure for you to invest. Kosmot is not specifically asking anyone to trust him or any other member. Doesn't have to directly ask anyone for it to still be an issue of trust. I don't need to restate what I wrote, because the language is clear. He is damned well asking for people to put trust in him.
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