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April 25, 2014, 07:21:32 AM
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later integrate GHOST if problems surrounding centralization arise.  It's not the end of the world.

GHOST does not address centralization, in fact it may make centralization worse. That said, having essentially instant transactions is at least a really important and relevant differentiator that might be worth a try, if we have the talent and resources on this team to implement it.

If not, then a new coin with instant transactions and privacy (and a good launch...) could be a real winner.

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April 25, 2014, 07:24:39 AM
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ninja launch with new algo

meh...

If by ninja-launch you mean pre-announced, sure. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.0


I don't know what to tell you smooth.  Yes, the situation is not ideal, but tonight we're at 315k on the network.

The miners are speaking.

Bytecoin is at 1.7 million now. The miners are speaking but what are they saying exactly?


Hard to say. Both are at all time highs, which can only be good for CN.
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April 25, 2014, 07:39:17 AM
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ninja launch with new algo

meh...

Coin was launched with an Ann.  Anyone had opportunity.  Maybe somewhat ninja but still fair launch consider other coin launches.

I understand your meaning but launch was a fair as any coin.

Not just new algo, different protocol.  CryptoNote protocol.  Comparison to Apple/Microsoft =  Bitcoin protocol/CryptoNotes protocol.

https://cryptonote.org/  

  • Untraceable Payments
  • Unlinkable transactions
  • Double-spending proof
  • Blockchain analysis resistance
  • Egalitarian proof of work
  • Adaptive parameters

CryptoNotes protocol provides a much more anonymous cryptocurrency than the BitCoin protocol.  

Most coins are just clones of BitCoin or it's derivatives.  Monero is moving forward towards more anonymity using the CryptoNotes protocol and is differentiating itself from the plethora of new coins by using the CryptoNotes protocol.  Will it be successful?  We will have to wait and see.  One thing is certain.  Monero is breaking new ground by bringing a new coin using a different protocol to the cryptocurrency world.  Only time will tell how successful Monero will be but everyone benefits from choices.  Bringing a new coin using a different protocol than the BitCoin protocol is a good thing for the cryptocommunity.  It's not just another coin with another color for it's name.  It's a new coin based on a different protocol entirely.


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April 25, 2014, 07:40:22 AM
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later integrate GHOST if problems surrounding centralization arise.  It's not the end of the world.

GHOST does not address centralization, in fact it may make centralization worse. That said, having essentially instant transactions is at least a really important and relevant differentiator that might be worth a try, if we have the talent and resources on this team to implement it.

If not, then a new coin with instant transactions and privacy (and a good launch...) could be a real winner.



It's good that you are on the team.  You have much to offer future of coin or any coin.  Smiley


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April 25, 2014, 07:42:40 AM
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ninja launch with new algo

meh...

What are you even talking about?

1. Not a new algorithm (essentially the same as Bytecoin)

2. Not a ninja launch (was preannounced, was delayed to get Windows binaries ready, etc.)

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April 25, 2014, 07:47:52 AM
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Do not start daemon/wallet on different port.

Reboot computer.  Start bitmonerod from command line.  Let sync. "important to let finish syncing"  start wallet from command line and type start_mining from within wallet.

I know it more complicated than other coin for now.  Devs are working on GUI to make simple and easy from Windows.  It's new coin working out issues like any other.  It is different from other coins.  Issues will be resolved in short time.  Give try and inform on status.  Happy mining Smiley  

Edit:

After bitmonerod sync, type "save" in window to write blockchain to hard drive.  When closing bitmonerod type exit in window to write latest block information to hard drive.  Does not write autmatically.  It is important to wait until bitmonerod sync before start mining.  You will see message like:

You are now synchronized with the network. You may now start simplewallet.

Please note, that the blockchain will be saved only after you quit the daemon wi
th "exit" command or if you use "save" command.
Otherwise, you will possibly need to synchronize the blockchain again.


Then ready to mine.  Let know if this fixes issue.  
 

Actually coming from Unix/Linux I don't mind command line applications, but at least the documentation should be correct and the script posted in the Windows tutorial does NOT work.

Doing everything by hand (like in the Linux tutorial) works, so thanks for your help.

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Last edit: April 25, 2014, 08:04:27 AM by mickey_miner
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Do not start daemon/wallet on different port.

Reboot computer.  Start bitmonerod from command line.  Let sync. "important to let finish syncing"  start wallet from command line and type start_mining from within wallet.

I know it more complicated than other coin for now.  Devs are working on GUI to make simple and easy from Windows.  It's new coin working out issues like any other.  It is different from other coins.  Issues will be resolved in short time.  Give try and inform on status.  Happy mining Smiley  

Edit:

After bitmonerod sync, type "save" in window to write blockchain to hard drive.  When closing bitmonerod type exit in window to write latest block information to hard drive.  Does not write autmatically.  It is important to wait until bitmonerod sync before start mining.  You will see message like:

You are now synchronized with the network. You may now start simplewallet.

Please note, that the blockchain will be saved only after you quit the daemon wi
th "exit" command or if you use "save" command.
Otherwise, you will possibly need to synchronize the blockchain again.


Then ready to mine.  Let know if this fixes issue.  
 

Actually coming from Unix/Linux I don't mind command line applications, but at least the documentation should be correct and the script posted in the Windows tutorial does NOT work.

Doing everything by hand (like in the Linux tutorial) works, so thanks for your help.



So you have working?  If so thats good.  I am glad to help.  Good luck mining! Smiley

Windows tutorial will be changed to make easier to understand and be successful mining.

Edit:

Devs are working on Windows GUI that will make mining easier for Windows users that don't have command line experience.  This should be available soon but I cannot give definite time frame.  Mac GUI should be released shortly after.  Things are happening and updates will be forthcoming.  Thanks for your interest in Monero.  Many people are working hard to bring this coin to everyone and make strong for the future.


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April 25, 2014, 08:11:40 AM
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So you have working?  If so thats good.  I am glad to help.  Good luck mining! Smiley

Yep, around 6.9 hashrate with 7 threads on my Intel i7 testbox while the system is still very usable.
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Actually coming from Unix/Linux I don't mind command line applications, but at least the documentation should be correct and the script posted in the Windows tutorial does NOT work.

Doing everything by hand (like in the Linux tutorial) works, so thanks for your help.


Actually, all that batch file does is open the terminals with the arguments so that's probably not it. I've had the same issue (daemon closes instantly, wallet complains that it can't connect to daemon) and it turned out to be corrupted blockchain data (checked the logs). I fixed it by deleting the blockchain and resyncing.

I'd like to know if the Windows .bat script does/doesn't work for others, though. It's fine for me on 7.
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Actually coming from Unix/Linux I don't mind command line applications, but at least the documentation should be correct and the script posted in the Windows tutorial does NOT work.

Doing everything by hand (like in the Linux tutorial) works, so thanks for your help.


Actually, all that batch file does is open the terminals with the arguments so that's probably not it. I've had the same issue (daemon closes instantly, wallet complains that it can't connect to daemon) and it turned out to be corrupted blockchain data (checked the logs). I fixed it by deleting the blockchain and resyncing.

I'd like to know if the Windows .bat script does/doesn't work for others, though. It's fine for me on 7.

I would give input but I not use the .bat script.  Did everything from command line like I explained to crowning.  I will test the .bat script and let know the outcome.


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April 25, 2014, 09:48:30 AM
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Code:
2014-Apr-25 05:42:20.905804 [miner 0]Found block for difficulty: 321744
2014-Apr-25 05:42:23.223802 [P2P9]----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 10550
id: <2a92334bd83ba607907373150640d90dcdcf0622082defc7b7fb32db975acfa8>
PoW: <c0afed3424a688cef255d9366fc153d886675bd4984837912007f0ff88210000>
difficulty: 321744
hashrate: 1.4211
hashrate: 1.4211
hashrate: 1.4737
2014-Apr-25 05:42:34.356612 [P2P2]###### REORGANIZE on height: 10550 of 10550 with cum_difficulty 1787632048
 alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty 1787953665
2014-Apr-25 05:42:37.387165 [P2P2]----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 10550
id: <2f651e584033e09be5fc0c9810e140dd204d010645f5dcdf619c7bbfa76a1da7>
PoW: <7dd2ed82497142dba548b71fc561d5013acc72d0ace3f5480616aa63d32c0000>
difficulty: 321744
2014-Apr-25 05:42:37.387375 [P2P2]REORGANIZE SUCCESS! on height: 10550, new blockchain size: 10552
Did I find a block?

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April 25, 2014, 09:53:00 AM
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HI, any1 know how to mine with multiple pc on a same wallet?

i tried this guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=544715.msg6242645#msg6242645 and still confusing what to do.

some1 care to explain further? i'm not a computer professional  Cheesy
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April 25, 2014, 09:55:31 AM
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Nice the idea of esperanto language
Which will be the total amount of coins?
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April 25, 2014, 09:57:30 AM
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HI, any1 know how to mine with multiple pc on a same wallet?

i tried this guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=544715.msg6242645#msg6242645 and still confusing what to do.

some1 care to explain further? i'm not a computer professional  Cheesy
I would also like to know this, but preferably not have to download blockchain on the mining computers, just have them connect to a host. Is this possible?

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April 25, 2014, 10:12:54 AM
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Nice the idea of esperanto language
Which will be the total amount of coins?

A little over 18 million.
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April 25, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
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HI, any1 know how to mine with multiple pc on a same wallet?

i tried this guide https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=544715.msg6242645#msg6242645 and still confusing what to do.

some1 care to explain further? i'm not a computer professional  Cheesy
I would also like to know this, but preferably not have to download blockchain on the mining computers, just have them connect to a host. Is this possible?

In the daemon (not wallet) type:
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start_mining <address> <number of threads>

You don't need to launch the wallet on these other computers and definitely don't do start_mining through the wallet terminal.

The daemon will download the blockchain, though. To have what you're talking about (something like cgminer), we need to use simpleminer, which is an included executable. However, there's no pool yet so it's not yet usable.
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April 25, 2014, 10:45:22 AM
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Exchange MRO for BCN directly here.

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April 25, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
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This one looks damn intresting and I'm already totally into it! But I'm affraid an installation process might be a little too complicated for people used to "windows" stuff. Anyway, great stuff, mates!
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April 25, 2014, 11:27:26 AM
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WTB MRO


Message myself your offers. Unless you are reputable or are willing to send first, escrow!
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April 25, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
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Oh, there's a thread there already.
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