[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[P3RS3US]

I do agree with Perseus that the comment was baseless because it did not provide a sound argument, even if a valid statement, and in forgoing so, causes him (and, though to a lesser extent, by unavoidable proxy, Monero) diminished credibility.

Thats exactly what he wants you to think... he is using Monero to shut me up, I already showed that I don't care about my perceived credibility so that was next obvious step, if this was IRL I would be sleeping with the fishes tonight, because thats the nature of his people. I'm really sorry (and only) about going offtopic here, I thought he was an obvious troll and people would just ignore.

what a load of waffle. im not trolling, you are.
the only kind of credibility is "perceived credibility".

[vokain]

the only kind of credibility is "perceived credibility".

Of course. We only know as far as we're aware. Are you a fan of Bertrand Russell's two heads argument?

That we have two heads suggests that our perception is the same reality-tunnel that bridges the two together.

From the same book linked,

Obviously, the faster we process information, the more rich and complex our models or glosses — our reality-tunnels — will become. Resistance to new information, however, has a strong neurological foundation in all animals, as indicated by studies of imprinting and conditioning. Most animals, including most domesticated primates (humans) show a truly staggering ability to "ignore" certain kinds of information — that which does not "fit" their imprinted/conditioned reality-tunnel. We generally call this "conservatism" or "stupidity", but it appears in all parts of the political spectrum, and in learned societies as well as in the Ku Klux Klan.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Why dont we rename Monero to Darkcoin now that it is available just for the lols

This genuinely made me laugh

[aerbax]

FYI, I built a stupid little XMR wealth calculator on monerobase.com.  You plug in the amount of XMR into the URL and it'll tell you how much that's worth in fiat (USD/EUR).  I'm sure most people have spreadsheets that do this for them, but if not, this may help.

For example, to calculate 498 XMR:
https://monerobase.com/worth/498

6112 XMR:
https://monerobase.com/worth/6112

[explorer]

As I promised:

My desk top of the week 

[GingerAle]

I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

• PrivacyCash
• PrivacyCoin
• eCash
• eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

Why dont we rename Monero to Darkcoin now that it is available just for the lols

99% of the shitcoins in this forum is doing exactly what you propose. I am glad that monero isnt. Monero as a name is perfect for many reasons and one of them is that it differentiates itself from the rest. Another is that by being in esperanto it is universal.

And i think that people on this forum know what monero does. If they dont it is our job to inform them with serious posts and infographics. In the end, i dont care for people who will choose a coin just because of the name.

Well #1, i was going to save this for the digest, but here it is:

some group is already re-branding with darkcoin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002259.0

oh joy.


#2: re monero name change. Luckily, I doubt this will happen... but I think its important to discuss why it won't happen etc. There's been extensive literature on this (i'm sure david L will step in with a good link or two), but the gist of it is that we're trying to create a new currency. A new way of exchanging value. But because its an advancement of something we already do, there's no need to call it what it does.

Take the case of the automobile. Yes - that term defines what the thing does. Did automobile stick? Sure - we all know what an automobile is, but we call them cars (well this could be my regional bias creeping in here). And the etymology of cars is wheeled vehicle apparently (hooray internet). Or this thought thread could be going way off kilter and im just rambling because my brain is fried because I thought reading the XMR v DRK thread would be entertaining.

The other approach is that bitcoin / crytocurrency is still early in the curve, so there's no precedent yet for names or whats best etc.

This is an old survey, but I doubt things have changed much.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/perianneboring/2014/02/22/bitcoin-basics-for-the-76-percenters-who-dont-have-a-clue-what-it-is/

I mean hell, bitcoin itself is a misnomer (as far as I understand it, and I'm a freshmen at CryptoCurrency University, so someone please school me )... because there are no goddamned coins that move around. its just entries on a ledger. But if you have ownership of an input of 10, i guess you gotta call that 10 something.

Furthermore, bitcoin has already been "kleenexed" or "xeroxed" or "band aid"ed. (If you're outside the US, we call a tissues kleenex because a major brand "kleenex" made a lot of tissues. The company Xerox created the photocopier, and it was such a mindblowing concept that people didn't know what to call it, so Xerox had to come up with "photocopy", but peopled started calling the process "xeroxing"... I forget the name of the phenomenon, but companies actually invest money to STOP this from happening, because eventually the public associates a given thing with a given brand name, regardless of the actual brand.)

My point is, I read a Gizmo article that went something along the lines of "A bitcoin - specifically, Litecoin, ...." It had to do with that uTorrent sneaky addon app that was a litecoin miner or something.

So according to the 75% of people that have no idea what bitcoin is, monero is a bitcoin.

I think I lost myself. time for bed.

[Hueristic]

As I promised:

My desk top of the week 

This is Perfect!

[ArticMine]

I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

• PrivacyCash
• PrivacyCoin
• eCash
• eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

No any re-brand. Monero is a phenomenal brand name precisely because it connotes money, cash, currency in a multitude of languages.

[antw081]

FYI, I built a stupid little XMR wealth calculator on monerobase.com.  You plug in the amount of XMR into the URL and it'll tell you how much that's worth in fiat (USD/EUR).  I'm sure most people have spreadsheets that do this for them, but if not, this may help.

For example, to calculate 498 XMR:
https://monerobase.com/worth/498

Nice work. I'm bookmarking this. Sent a little tip your way  . 

[Brilliantrocket]

No any re-brand. Monero is a phenomenal brand name precisely because it connotes money, cash, currency in a multitude of languages.

I actually think Monero has the best name of any cryptocurrency. The association with money is immediate and, as you said, carries over to many languages.

[smooth]

There will be no rename in the foreseeable future

[aerbax]

FYI, I built a stupid little XMR wealth calculator on monerobase.com.  You plug in the amount of XMR into the URL and it'll tell you how much that's worth in fiat (USD/EUR).  I'm sure most people have spreadsheets that do this for them, but if not, this may help.

For example, to calculate 498 XMR:
https://monerobase.com/worth/498

Nice work. I'm bookmarking this. Sent a little tip your way  . 

Hey, thank you!  That's very kind, and appreciated.

[Anon136]

There will be no rename in the foreseeable future

What if we all just unanimously decide to call it flarb instead of monero? Whatcha gunna to do about it? Huh?

[fluffypony]

I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Many of the most recognisable brands in the world don't have descriptive names, and are awash in a sea of competition. "Apple" makes computers, "Nike" makes sportswear, "Amazon" sells stuff online, "Ford" makes cars, "Verizon" is mobile phone service provider. Even amongst software projects "Firefox" is a browser, "Skype" is for video calling, "Dash" is for offline software development documentation search, "Eclipse" is an IDE.

If everything had a descriptive brand name you'd use your "SlickComputers" laptop to buy a pair of "AwesomeSneakers" shoes from "OnlineRetailer" before hopping in my "AmericanCars" truck and making a call using the "LargePhoneNetwork" network. Then when I'm on my computer I can fire up "OpenSourceBrowser" before using "VideoCaller" to check-in with my wife, all while the convenient "DarkDocumentation" system helps me code in "CodeWriterEnvironment".

[Johnny Mnemonic]

There will be no rename in the foreseeable future

What if we all just unanimously decide to call it flarb instead of monero? Whatcha gunna to do about it? Huh?

That's the spirit! If you don't like the name, then come up with something better and get everyone to start using it. But I agree, I doubt that will happen any time soon, if ever.


BRB, registering flarb.org

[fluffypony]

There will be no rename in the foreseeable future

What if we all just unanimously decide to call it flarb instead of monero? Whatcha gunna to do about it? Huh?

DarkFlarb

[Shrikez]

There will be no rename in the foreseeable future

What if we all just unanimously decide to call it flarb instead of monero? Whatcha gunna to do about it? Huh?

DarkFlarb

You made me spit my precious coffee!

DarkFlarb - Can buy fearless!

ok rebranding done.

[dewdeded]

I am a Marketing professional and I say no rebranding. The (brand) name is great.

[macsga]

Monero as a brand name is fine, why should we rebrand it? Besides there's a whole lot of infrastructure behind it right now... and... Pardon my ignorance, but WTF is "flarb"?  

Edit: Nevermind. Just Googled it: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flarb
It was (far) worse than what I expected

[GingerAle]

Monero as a brand name is fine, why should we rebrand it? Besides there's a whole lot of infrastructure behind it right now... and... Pardon my ignorance, but WTF is "flarb"? 

Its a new flarb-centric coin that allows you to flarb flarbingly well