[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[primer-]

Primer- is more a fan of Andreas Antonopoulos and wants David to be like him. As he said multiple times on our IRC.
But i prefer our David - he doesn't spread Mac Malware: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/433080081179611136

David would not know how to turn a Mac on

[5w00p]

Primer- is more a fan of Andreas Antonopoulos and wants David to be like him. As he said multiple times on our IRC.
But i prefer our David - he doesn't spread Mac Malware: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/433080081179611136

David would not know how to turn a Mac on

because he is hetero.

[binaryFate]

re: freebazaar, this point is so old its getting old. Those that donated get private updates. Also, during the fundraising, there was no cheerleading from the core dev team. I remember being excited about it. I don't have the time to fish and find the posts (maybe Dr. Bookmarks will have them handy). Is it not happening as swiftly as people would like? Probably. But yah know what else has the same problem? Everything in the world thats worth a damn.

Could someone involved in the project (donator) and in the know provide any kind of update on Freebazaar?

No one has mentioned anything at all about it publicly.  If donators have been asked to keep quiet about progress thats fine but please let us know that is the case.

I checked and nowhere Atrides asked to keep this private, so here you are:

Code:

== Wed, Jan 14 ==

Atrides: So here short squeeze of thoughts about payments within FreeBazaar to discuss: 
Payments: 1) Direct Payments 2) Payment via Escrow 
Escrow: Free multiple choice of options, determined per-transaction: 
- simple BTC/XMR escrow (for XMR without miltisig) 
- To reduce exchange rate risk USD-stabilized escrow (with convert on exchanges/Nubits/BitUSD/use Bitreserve. That will be explained by Escrow-service. Payments in any currency(BTC/USD) for both seller and buyer.


== Thu, Jan 15 ==
Atrides: I take some time to learn the code and set steps priorities for actual to do. I will inform you next days


== Wed, Jan 21 ==
binaryFate: How is it going? Once you get more familiar with the code base, can you give us a general estimate of the time needed for each further step?
Atrides: Hi guys, I'll offer details this weekend


== Tue, Jan 27 ==
Atrides: Hi guys, I have readed docs and code. 
So see one problem - core team of OpenBazaar works very slow. Last commit in dev-repo was two weeks ago. A lot of pull requests with ready code are pinding since october...bad. So I think our commits will be delayed for a long time. Without integration into OpenBazaar we can make it quicker, but within we have already prepared publicity, recognition.


== Wed, Jan 28 ==
binaryFate: I guess you can just work on a branch and keep going even if they don't merge changes back quickly


== Thu, Feb 5 ==
binaryFate: Is anything happening? Are you working on it or not at the moment?


== Sat, Feb 7 ==
Atrides: Hi, yes, I'm working. sadly I cannot work full time because I have collected less, so I must take other projects too


== Sun, Feb 15 ==
Atrides: I'm mostly working on some projects at the same time. bazaar is very important to me, but at the moment is not a priority. I promized to finished, and I will do that, sorry I cann't say on what days exactly I can work. last two weeks I was extremly busy, with no chance to do something else. Your money are not moved from my wallet I didn't sell them and won't do this till monero will rise many times because of bazaar. Next days I push some of commits to github what already done.


== Tue, Feb 17 ==
Atrides: First initial commit, added monero as alternative coin, other commits during this week after tests

    
== Tue, Mar 3 ==
REDACTED: How is progress? Any new commits?
Atrides: Yes, two days ago, some commits. This week I'll do the rest.


== Wed, Mar 11 ==
Atrides: I have asked developers of OpenBazaar that our patches may be implemented. In original OB Bitcoin is hardcoded overall.


== Wed, Mar 18 ==
Atrides: Hm...still no answer from Devs
Atrides: I pushed new commit. Communications with local monero Wallet and directly payment


== Sun, Mar 29 ==
Atrides: Good(?) news from dev of OpenBazaar, they can implement other coins if external dev make patches.


== Tue, Apr 7 ==
binaryFate: 
1) What is the state of the Monero freebazar branch? Is it fully functional? If not, what is missing and what is the ETA for it? 
2) Why not release the Monero freebazar code even if it's not merged mainstream by official openbazaar devs? If it's working let's release it, merge can come later. 

[wpalczynski]

re: freebazaar, this point is so old its getting old. Those that donated get private updates. Also, during the fundraising, there was no cheerleading from the core dev team. I remember being excited about it. I don't have the time to fish and find the posts (maybe Dr. Bookmarks will have them handy). Is it not happening as swiftly as people would like? Probably. But yah know what else has the same problem? Everything in the world thats worth a damn.

Could someone involved in the project (donator) and in the know provide any kind of update on Freebazaar?

No one has mentioned anything at all about it publicly.  If donators have been asked to keep quiet about progress thats fine but please let us know that is the case.

I checked and nowhere Atrides asked to keep this private, so here you are:

Code:

== Wed, Jan 14 ==

Atrides: So here short squeeze of thoughts about payments within FreeBazaar to discuss: 
Payments: 1) Direct Payments 2) Payment via Escrow 
Escrow: Free multiple choice of options, determined per-transaction: 
- simple BTC/XMR escrow (for XMR without miltisig) 
- To reduce exchange rate risk USD-stabilized escrow (with convert on exchanges/Nubits/BitUSD/use Bitreserve. That will be explained by Escrow-service. Payments in any currency(BTC/USD) for both seller and buyer.


== Thu, Jan 15 ==
Atrides: I take some time to learn the code and set steps priorities for actual to do. I will inform you next days


== Wed, Jan 21 ==
binaryFate: How is it going? Once you get more familiar with the code base, can you give us a general estimate of the time needed for each further step?
Atrides: Hi guys, I'll offer details this weekend


== Tue, Jan 27 ==
Atrides: Hi guys, I have readed docs and code. 
So see one problem - core team of OpenBazaar works very slow. Last commit in dev-repo was two weeks ago. A lot of pull requests with ready code are pinding since october...bad. So I think our commits will be delayed for a long time. Without integration into OpenBazaar we can make it quicker, but within we have already prepared publicity, recognition.


== Wed, Jan 28 ==
binaryFate: I guess you can just work on a branch and keep going even if they don't merge changes back quickly


== Thu, Feb 5 ==
binaryFate: Is anything happening? Are you working on it or not at the moment?


== Sat, Feb 7 ==
Atrides: Hi, yes, I'm working. sadly I cannot work full time because I have collected less, so I must take other projects too


== Sun, Feb 15 ==
Atrides: I'm mostly working on some projects at the same time. bazaar is very important to me, but at the moment is not a priority. I promized to finished, and I will do that, sorry I cann't say on what days exactly I can work. last two weeks I was extremly busy, with no chance to do something else. Your money are not moved from my wallet I didn't sell them and won't do this till monero will rise many times because of bazaar. Next days I push some of commits to github what already done.


== Tue, Feb 17 ==
Atrides: First initial commit, added monero as alternative coin, other commits during this week after tests

    
== Tue, Mar 3 ==
REDACTED: How is progress? Any new commits?
Atrides: Yes, two days ago, some commits. This week I'll do the rest.


== Wed, Mar 11 ==
Atrides: I have asked developers of OpenBazaar that our patches may be implemented. In original OB Bitcoin is hardcoded overall.


== Wed, Mar 18 ==
Atrides: Hm...still no answer from Devs
Atrides: I pushed new commit. Communications with local monero Wallet and directly payment


== Sun, Mar 29 ==
Atrides: Good(?) news from dev of OpenBazaar, they can implement other coins if external dev make patches.


== Tue, Apr 7 ==
binaryFate: 
1) What is the state of the Monero freebazar branch? Is it fully functional? If not, what is missing and what is the ETA for it? 
2) Why not release the Monero freebazar code even if it's not merged mainstream by official openbazaar devs? If it's working let's release it, merge can come later. 

Thanks.

[coinits]

An online gaming community is looking to embed new cryptos into their games. This looks like an opportunity for XMR. Someone from the DEV team should make contact. They are reaching out. I know that they reached out to BURST.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011127.msg10969685#msg10969685

NOTE: I did not vet them. I am assuming this is legit!

[illodin]

I'd bet that BFX started accepting DRK after possibly some underhanded negotiation convinced BFX that accepting DRK would posture BFX as the leading premier exchange of the fancy newfangled anonymous coin of the future, supported by certain DRK whales' (ahem, Otoh) assurances to make the market.

Moncada [masternode] openly stated in via thread that dark is on bitfinex only because of him. He further said he knows big names and can make dark reach places

Sounds bullish imo. Any project would benefit from people who can make things happen.

[HYPERfuture]

Anyone want to see XMR integrated into Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, so that it can be won by people playing CSGO and CS 1.6 on our servers?

Learn more here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011127.msg10969685#msg10969685

Hope to hear from you! Someone recommended I reach out to the Monero community with my proposal.

[vokain]

I'd bet that BFX started accepting DRK after possibly some underhanded negotiation convinced BFX that accepting DRK would posture BFX as the leading premier exchange of the fancy newfangled anonymous coin of the future, supported by certain DRK whales' (ahem, Otoh) assurances to make the market.

Moncada [masternode] openly stated in via thread that dark is on bitfinex only because of him. He further said he knows big names and can make dark reach places

Sounds bullish imo. Any project would benefit from people who can make things happen.

It definitely was, and an excellent move on their part. On BFX's part I'm sure they got good commissions, but now, the picture doesn't seem as clear.

[magico]

Hi monerians!

First of all I don't like "primer-"s trolling. And I don't want to support him.

But it is something strange for me with "dwarfpool".
In my late 2014 mining experince I've checked several xmr mining pools.
And guess the pool with lowest profit.... Yes, it was "dwarfpool".
(Before XMR I mined other coins at "dwarfpool" and it was great.)

I don't know how it's going right now, and don't want to support trolling.
But I recommend not to use "dwarfpool".
Better check other pools. (And it is better for the whole monero network)

(And it's only my opinion.)

[dEBRUYNE]

On another note...

Atrides, dwarfpool owner, is every scammers wet dream, here's why :

He operates the second largest pool, dwarfpool. Current hash rate 3.3MH/s.
The only pool that DOES NOT publish full block history! I've asked him to make this data available and was told every time to f..off. so I've scraped his "Last 30 blocks" page every 1 hour and have been doing it for some time now.

His efficiency for the last 2000 blocks is 81% !
No other pool has such low efficiency, feel free to check them all, both big and small, botnet-friendly and private. Such bad efficiency can only lead to one conclusion - HE IS SIPHONING!

Now take a look at https://github.com/freebazaar?tab=activity
Back in January Atrides asked the community for 10k XMR in donations to begin work on an openbazaar fork. Devs were quick to give support and asked the community to donate as much as possible. When someone suggested that the coins be kept in an escrow Atrides refused and the devs made no attempt to force the escrow or even suggest the donators do their own due diligence.

Move your hash elsewhere people!@#
I also expect the community to demand asnwers and a deadline from this professional scammer.

ugh. someone should really develop a pay per post forum software. This FUD cleanup is getting exhausting.

re: dwarfpool accusation, I have no idea. Based on your other "research" related to monero, my gut is to not trust anything you post.

re: freebazaar, this point is so old its getting old. Those that donated get private updates. Also, during the fundraising, there was no cheerleading from the core dev team. I remember being excited about it. I don't have the time to fish and find the posts (maybe Dr. Bookmarks will have them handy). Is it not happening as swiftly as people would like? Probably. But yah know what else has the same problem? Everything in the world thats worth a damn.

Discussion starts around here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg9994963#msg9994963

[vokain]

On another note...

Atrides, dwarfpool owner, is every scammers wet dream, here's why :

He operates the second largest pool, dwarfpool. Current hash rate 3.3MH/s.
The only pool that DOES NOT publish full block history! I've asked him to make this data available and was told every time to f..off. so I've scraped his "Last 30 blocks" page every 1 hour and have been doing it for some time now.

His efficiency for the last 2000 blocks is 81% !
No other pool has such low efficiency, feel free to check them all, both big and small, botnet-friendly and private. Such bad efficiency can only lead to one conclusion - HE IS SIPHONING!

Now take a look at https://github.com/freebazaar?tab=activity
Back in January Atrides asked the community for 10k XMR in donations to begin work on an openbazaar fork. Devs were quick to give support and asked the community to donate as much as possible. When someone suggested that the coins be kept in an escrow Atrides refused and the devs made no attempt to force the escrow or even suggest the donators do their own due diligence.

Move your hash elsewhere people!@#
I also expect the community to demand asnwers and a deadline from this professional scammer.

ugh. someone should really develop a pay per post forum software. This FUD cleanup is getting exhausting.

re: dwarfpool accusation, I have no idea. Based on your other "research" related to monero, my gut is to not trust anything you post.

re: freebazaar, this point is so old its getting old. Those that donated get private updates. Also, during the fundraising, there was no cheerleading from the core dev team. I remember being excited about it. I don't have the time to fish and find the posts (maybe Dr. Bookmarks will have them handy). Is it not happening as swiftly as people would like? Probably. But yah know what else has the same problem? Everything in the world thats worth a damn.

Discussion starts around here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg9994963#msg9994963

Reading that immediately set off huge alarms for me. Most notably re: asking for donations without any mention of actual costs (10k moneroj for what, exactly?), and using urgency to leverage fear as a lure for donations.  

I hope for the best.

Whois lookup for dwarfpool.com is not reassuring.

[From Above]

Primer- is more a fan of Andreas Antonopoulos and wants David to be like him. As he said multiple times on our IRC.
But i prefer our David - he doesn't spread Mac Malware: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/433080081179611136

David would not know how to turn a Mac on

because he is hetero.

thx for clarifying that 5w00p, i was not so sure when watched his talk first
he has very interesting voice .  and more interesting accént  .

[dEBRUYNE]

Listen the interview with our core dev Fluffypony on LetsTalkBitcoin:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/ltb-e202-understanding-monero

Anon136, this is what you were asking for right?  

[cAPSLOCK]

Listen to our core dev Fluffypony on LetsTalkBitcoin:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/ltb-e202-understanding-monero

Anon136, this is what you were asking for right?  

Very nice.  I look forward to listening.  That's good exposure.

[5w00p]

Primer- is more a fan of Andreas Antonopoulos and wants David to be like him. As he said multiple times on our IRC.
But i prefer our David - he doesn't spread Mac Malware: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/433080081179611136

David would not know how to turn a Mac on

because he is hetero.

thx for clarifying that 5w00p, i was not so sure when watched his talk first
he has very interesting voice .  and more interesting accént  .

I actually have no idea. And it is of no concern to me. And I have never listened to him talk.

I was just being facetious in response to a flippant series of comments about a Dev who seems legit to me.

[tacotime]

David is core development team, but he's not really a programmer. He tends to handle PR and the like.

[opennux]

David showed me the email conversation and I can thus vouch for him, so what you're stating is utter bullshit. Why would he even lie about this?

Watch your language.

Fuck off

In my opinion you add nothing to this coin or community.

That's in my head ALL the time. 

[binaryFate]

Listen the interview with our core dev Fluffypony on LetsTalkBitcoin:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/ltb-e202-understanding-monero

Nice interview! Very pedagogic, I'll recommend it to anybody interested about Monero, it covers pretty much everything

[medusa13]

Listen the interview with our core dev Fluffypony on LetsTalkBitcoin:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/ltb-e202-understanding-monero

Anon136, this is what you were asking for right?  

yery good fluffy! super informative.
i enjoyed listening to it, well structured

[Its About Sharing]

Listen the interview with our core dev Fluffypony on LetsTalkBitcoin:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/ltb-e202-understanding-monero

Anon136, this is what you were asking for right?  

Not sure about Anon136 but I asked for this in the last 2 weeks!
Great news and the effort is appreciated.
Downloading now.

Hopefully this just helps to get a bit more of the truth out there.

IAS