[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[DirtyUniverse]

Why monero price low? I think its not stable price.

[QuantumQrack]

Why monero price low? I think its not stable price.

Stable cryptocurrency prices = bad.  (unless there is one pegged to USD for example)

[Kevin77]

Why monero price low? I think its not stable price.

Stable cryptocurrency prices = bad.  (unless there is one pegged to USD for example)

Stable or increasing price may help adoption.
We may need better marketing...

[fluffypony]

Why monero price low? I think its not stable price.

Stable cryptocurrency prices = bad.  (unless there is one pegged to USD for example)

Stable or increasing price may help adoption.
We may need better marketing...

Considering BTC is at ¹/₅^th of its ATH they probably need better marketing more than we do;)

Seriously, though, adoption comes with maturity. We're a baby - just a year old - and there are many amazing projects by members of the community that are just getting going. From a core team perspective...we're not marketers, and we have no skill in that space, so you won't see us burning time and energy on an AdWords campaign. Of course, as the Forum Funding System draws closer to completion it's a good time to remember that marketing and all these other peripheral projects will soon be able to be pitched and funded through that.

[fluffypony]

Wow. That fraction actually worked! I'm like an ASCII-art king!

:-P

[GingerAle]

An interesting use for a private cryptocurrency (Monero) is election fundraising.

essentially, anyone in the world can influence the upcoming US 2016 election.

[Deviant1]

I've been watching XMR for a while and I'm very impressed with its resilience. Seems to me that it is going to be around for the long haul.

Price is down a bit so I am looking to buy in soon 

[Anon136]

An interesting use for a private cryptocurrency (Monero) is election fundraising.

essentially, anyone in the world can influence the upcoming US 2016 election.

hillary likes

[BlockaFett]

Can anyone explain, at this time, why is the Monero lead dev working to get HitBTC delisted from CoinMarketCap?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg11163682#msg11163682

[sphericon]

Can anyone explain, at this time, why is the Monero lead dev working to get HitBTC delisted from CoinMarketCap?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg11163682#msg11163682

Probably because of the ample evidence he has provided that they are not 100% legit?

[BlockaFett]

Can anyone explain, at this time, why is the Monero lead dev working to get HitBTC delisted from CoinMarketCap?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg11163682#msg11163682

Probably because of the ample evidence he has provided that they are not 100% legit?

But the timing is weird, why is this the priority?  With Smooth on the Bytecoin forum saying it is an 'abject fraud' and Fluffy trying to get Bytecoin's only real exchange delisted from coinmarketcap, on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on coinmarketcap, this doesn't look suspiciously like an attempt by the devs to make Monero's numbers look better, and extremely unethical if so?

[bigj]

Can anyone explain, at this time, why is the Monero lead dev working to get HitBTC delisted from CoinMarketCap?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg11163682#msg11163682

Probably because of the ample evidence he has provided that they are not 100% legit?

But the timing is weird, why is this the priority?  With Smooth on the Bytecoin forum saying it is an 'abject fraud' and Fluffy trying to get Bytecoin's only real exchange delisted from coinmarketcap, on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on coinmarketcap, this doesn't look suspiciously like an attempt by the devs to make Monero's numbers look better, and extremely unethical if so?

IMO: It is rather 'unethical' to still have Bytecoin listed and traded. Any decent exchange should terminate all activities around scam coins - such as BCN. The same of course applies to coinmarketcap, etc.

[Anon136]

what do you guys think of the idea of using monero + mesh nets + open source smart phones to empower prisoners and prison economies. it could be an awesome test case. i2p is a decent stop gap measure but it will never be sufficient for our needs in the long run. trying to emulate a decentralized node based infrastructure on top of existing infrastructure will always have exploitable weaknesses. The only way to get truly dos resistant and reliably anonymous network interactions will be on parallel physical infrastructure. If we could figure out how to beat the fascists on a micro scale in the prison environment than maybe we could think about scaling up to the whole world.  

just some thoughts. im open to the possibility that im crazy.

[Globb0]

Will you need to get put in prison for the testing phase?   

[Anon136]

Will you need to get put in prison for the testing phase?   

Hopefully we could find some volunteers who are already in prison

[pa]

Will you need to get put in prison for the testing phase?   

Hopefully we could find some volunteers who are already in prison

As TPTB continue their schemes, all of humanity will soon find itself in a prison economy.

[BlockaFett]

Can anyone explain, at this time, why is the Monero lead dev working to get HitBTC delisted from CoinMarketCap?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.msg11163682#msg11163682

Probably because of the ample evidence he has provided that they are not 100% legit?

But the timing is weird, why is this the priority?  With Smooth on the Bytecoin forum saying it is an 'abject fraud' and Fluffy trying to get Bytecoin's only real exchange delisted from coinmarketcap, on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on coinmarketcap, this doesn't look suspiciously like an attempt by the devs to make Monero's numbers look better, and extremely unethical if so?

IMO: It is rather 'unethical' to still have Bytecoin listed and traded. Any decent exchange should terminate all activities around scam coins - such as BCN. The same of course applies to coinmarketcap, etc.

Just FYI but if Fluffy's campaign to remove Bytecoin's only real exchange from CoinMarketCap succeeds, that will also "memory-hole" 10% of Monero volume:



How to justify that, collateral damage?

[fluffypony]

How to justify that, collateral damage?

No, if the Monero volume is fake (and I suspect it is) then it must still go. It's even more reason to remove it, in fact, as it would be unconscionable to let it skew Monero's trade volume with fake trades.

[BlockaFett]

How to justify that, collateral damage?

No, if the Monero volume is fake (and I suspect it is) then it must still go. It's even more reason to remove it, in fact, as it would be unconscionable to let it skew Monero's trade volume with fake trades.

OK.  So now you and Smooth seem to be fighting on 3 fronts - Dash 'instamine scam', Bytecoin 'abject fraud', HitBTC 'fake volume scam', and the reason is because it would be 'unconscionable' for you not to do so.

How is your actual development on Monero going, is any innovation happening, such as what?  What happened to the PayBee site, is there a release date?  How do you find the time between all this other activity, and how did you come to the decision that the Monero dev's should be so active 'fighting scam's when in most coins the devs are just trying to innovate and grow adoption in the market?  

And lastly how come the scams that you bust always seem to have some competitive aspect with Monero, is that because you don't want Anon users to be scammed?

[fluffypony]

OK.  So now you and Smooth seem to be fighting on 3 fronts - Dash 'instamine scam', Bytecoin 'abject fraud', HitBTC 'fake volume scam', and the reason is because it would be 'unconscionable' for you not to do so.

How is your actual development on Monero going, is any innovation happening, such as what?

It's going just fine, in the last month we've had 230 commits (I'm only responsible for 42 of those), with 39 491 new lines of code.

What happened to the PayBee site, is there a release date?

It's still ongoing, and yes there is. The staff and my co-founders know the release date.

How do you find the time between all this other activity

A very supportive and beautiful wife, the luxury of being able to spend a large portion of my time on projects of my choosing, and really good coffee.

and how did you come to the decision that the Monero dev's should be so active 'fighting scam's when in most coins the devs are just trying to innovate and grow adoption in the market?

I don't control anyone. I don't tell Tom Winget what games he should play, or any of the Monero Research Lab researchers where they must have supper. What smooth does, what the rest of the core team do, what any of the Monero contributors do, is entirely up to them. Nobody "came to a decision" about any course of action, we've just independently identified obvious scams and spoken out about it. If I was a scammer I'd expect people to do the same; thus when I've been accused of being a scammer I've been able to defend myself.

And lastly how come the scams that you bust always seem to have some competitive aspect with Monero, is that because you don't want Anon users to be scammed?

Nonsense - I've called out everything from the Seedcoin fund nonsense to the Alpha Technologies scam to the insanity of Brock Pierce titling himself as "the godfather of Bitcoin" when he's done absolutely nothing. I went to the Bitcoin Africa conference last week, and called out every single idiotic presenter shilling their product when they should've been talking on their topic (the exception being Lorien Gamaroff's presentation on smart grids, who was excellent overall and intuitively "got" the issues with consumer education and mixed consumer messages for BTC, as well as Erik Wilgenhof Plante who gave a very clear and well-researched talk on the state of BTC regulations around the globe).