[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[sickpig]

 It seems that ring sig (and this particular case also zero knowledge proof) is something that really appeals researchers from all over the world:

One-out-of-Many Proofs: Or How to Leak a Secret and Spend a Coin
Jens Groth and Markulf Kohlweiss
https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/764
https://www.benthamsgaze.org/2015/04/23/one-out-of-many-proofs-or-how-to-leak-a-secret-and-spend-a-coin/

I’m going to EUROCRYPT 2015 to present a new zero-knowledge proof that I’ve developed together with Markulf Kohlweiss from Microsoft Research. Zero-knowledge proofs enable you to demonstrate that a particular statement is true without revealing anything else than the fact it is true. In our case the statements are one-out-of-many statements, intuitively that out of a number of items one of them has a special property, and we greatly reduce the size of the proofs compared to previous works in the area. Two applications where one-out-of-many proofs come in handy are ring signatures and Zerocoin.

[cAPSLOCK]

I wonder how much of the transient fickle voice in Monero threads represents the whole picture.  And don't get me wrong.  I am not badmouthing those who are selling.  It's their money.  Who am I to tell them what to do with it.  And I am not just talking about the bears.

It seems the emotional tides roll in and out so much with relatively small (in crypto terms) price movements...  10-20% one way or the other and suddenly people are talking about buying yachts, or staging funerals depending on the direction.  Others think these people are trying to manipulate the markets... I don't really buy this.  Maybe so, but they don't seem very good at it.  I follow their claimed trades and they tend to be on the losing end if they are telling the truth.

But I feel like for every 1 of these very vocal personalities there are X people like me.  Not terribly concerned with price.  Interested on being on the front end of a +EV bet from an "investment" standpoint willing to lose most of it, and also interested in the unique technology behind the cryptonight leader.  And desirous to help in some small way to serve the community.

What do you think X is in that equation??

[kenji]

Time to sell all xmr? ;'(((((

Yes i would say so
Today i have sold my last xmr.
Sorry guys, but i think we are still in a downtrend

[aminorex]

...staging funerals...

too late

[G2M]

...staging funerals...

too late

HAHAHA

oh god the comments!

"And she said: Are you glad to see me or is that just rigor mortis?"

[getrichdietryin]

guys dos monero have GUI wallet or just simple wallet

[DaveyJones]

guys dos monero have GUI wallet or just simple wallet

Not an official by the core devs... but people say the MoneroX GUI is pretty good

[Shrikez]

guys dos monero have GUI wallet or just simple wallet

You can check out the currently available wallets here How to choose a Monero wallet

[GTO911]

Yes i would say so
Today i have sold my last xmr.
Sorry guys, but i think we are still in a downtrend

What is a downtrend? When people like you keep selling it goes down, very simple, Dont say its just a downtrend

[DirtyUniverse]

Time to sell all xmr? ;'(((((

Yes i would say so
Today i have sold my last xmr.
Sorry guys, but i think we are still in a downtrend

I wait price up 3k 2.9k then sell

[owlcatz]

Yes i would say so
Today i have sold my last xmr.
Sorry guys, but i think we are still in a downtrend

What is a downtrend? When people like you keep selling it goes down, very simple, Dont say its just a downtrend

As someone who's been watching this coin closely for quite some time (almost a year?), I can say It rises and falls (within .30 cents+/-) now and again, but to me it's a lot like BTC back in the early days - If your not in it long, you probably don't want to deal with the "price-stress" as I call it sometimes. Sure, you can make money off the highs, and lose on the lows, it's like any other coin, but it's not like a real p&d coin to me. it' too slow in movement usually. You need to have a lot of patience for XMR.

Personally, I think it has a lot going for it, that's why I stick with it to be honest.

[GingerAle]

Yes i would say so
Today i have sold my last xmr.
Sorry guys, but i think we are still in a downtrend

What is a downtrend? When people like you keep selling it goes down, very simple, Dont say its just a downtrend

As someone who's been watching this coin closely for quite some time (almost a year?), I can say It rises and falls (within .30 cents+/-) now and again, but to me it's a lot like BTC back in the early days - If your not in it long, you probably don't want to deal with the "price-stress" as I call it sometimes. Sure, you can make money off the highs, and lose on the lows, it's like any other coin, but it's not like a real p&d coin to me. it' too slow in movement usually. You need to have a lot of patience for XMR.

Personally, I think it has a lot going for it, that's why I stick with it to be honest.

i'd hope it was no more than a year! then you'd have pre-launch coin watching abilities!

re: price stress - thats why I worked with onemorexmr to create buymonero.net . The boy buys a little every day.

Of course, this doesn't fully prevent me from wondering what the price is on a day to day basis. Just negates the whole "well, shoulda bought yesterday" or "shouldn't have bought yesterday" feeling.

[nioc]

I wonder how much of the transient fickle voice in Monero threads represents the whole picture.  And don't get me wrong.  I am not badmouthing those who are selling.  It's their money.  Who am I to tell them what to do with it.  And I am not just talking about the bears.

It seems the emotional tides roll in and out so much with relatively small (in crypto terms) price movements...  10-20% one way or the other and suddenly people are talking about buying yachts, or staging funerals depending on the direction.  Others think these people are trying to manipulate the markets... I don't really buy this.  Maybe so, but they don't seem very good at it.  I follow their claimed trades and they tend to be on the losing end if they are telling the truth.

But I feel like for every 1 of these very vocal personalities there are X people like me.  Not terribly concerned with price.  Interested on being on the front end of a +EV bet from an "investment" standpoint willing to lose most of it, and also interested in the unique technology behind the cryptonight leader.  And desirous to help in some small way to serve the community.

What do you think X is in that equation??

X=10  (Based on not much)

Time to sell all xmr? ;'(((((

Yes i would say so
Today i have sold my last xmr.
Sorry guys, but i think we are still in a downtrend

Right on cue

The last XMR I bought was today.  Have never had more.


Dear Devs,
When might the drooling masses like me who use windows expect the DB?  As there is little I can do to help I have once again donated a little something this past week.

[GreekBitcoin]

I wonder, in order to have osCommerce plugin for monero like bitcoin has all we need is the viewkey thing?

[oblox]

Dear Devs,
When might the drooling masses like me who use windows expect the DB?  As there is little I can do to help I have once again donated a little something this past week.

It's technically available right now with it merged into master if you want to build it yourself. Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck getting an already synced blockchain to convert (whether exporting and importing or running the converter, all on an octacore, 16gb ddr3 tower).

[nioc]

TY oblox but what part of drooling masses don't you understand?

Has anybody actually built the windows version?

I am looking forward to running a node again.

[jwinterm]

TY oblox but what part of drooling masses don't you understand?

Has anybody actually built the windows version?

I am looking forward to running a node again.

I built the windows db version and got it synced a few months ago, seemed to work without a hitch for me.

[oblox]

TY oblox but what part of drooling masses don't you understand?

Has anybody actually built the windows version?

I am looking forward to running a node again.

I've built it, just no luck converting an already synced up blockchain. I really don't want to bite the bullet and do it from genesis again but may have to. Come to think of it, fuck it, I'm just going to leave it run.

[smooth]

TY oblox but what part of drooling masses don't you understand?

Has anybody actually built the windows version?

I am looking forward to running a node again.

I've built it, just no luck converting an already synced up blockchain. I really don't want to bite the bullet and do it from genesis again but may have to. Come to think of it, fuck it, I'm just going to leave it run.

If you can't get the converter or import+export to work, another option is to sync your new node from your old node using --add-exclusive-node. That is somewhat faster and obviously uses little to no external bandwidth. This can even be done on the same computer if you make sure to use different ports and different data directories.

[oblox]

TY oblox but what part of drooling masses don't you understand?

Has anybody actually built the windows version?

I am looking forward to running a node again.

I've built it, just no luck converting an already synced up blockchain. I really don't want to bite the bullet and do it from genesis again but may have to. Come to think of it, fuck it, I'm just going to leave it run.

If you can't get the converter or import+export to work, another option is to sync your new node from your old node using --add-exclusive-node. That is somewhat faster and obviously uses little to no external bandwidth. This can even be done on the same computer if you make sure to use different ports and different data directories.

Care to elaborate on the appropriate setup?

For all intensive purposes, the synced node is running on local ip 192.168.1.71 with an --rpc-bind-ip 0.0.0.0 argument (for linux box running a wallet connecting to the remote node for refreshes--connects fine to 192.168.1.71:18080). Datadir is default so I launch with:

bitmonero --rpc-bind-ip 0.0.0.0

Trying to test the new build for the database with a datadir in D:\bitmonero. Launching the second daemon, I am using:

bitmonerod --data-dir D:\Monero\ --rpc-bind-port 18085 --add-exclusive-node 192.168.1.71:18080

This just causes the same block to continuing syncing, block 2201. Any other arguments missing from either setup?