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[GingerAle]

we have no idea how many outputs that 2000 is made up of. Therefore, its impossible to know whether his transaction of 2000 could go through with only 0.518080413699 xmr available for fees, of which 0.095951323699 is useless dust.

Perhaps he should sweep_dust, and then see how much he has left.

[smooth]

Technical question:

Say I'm sending 2000 xmr someplace.

How come I get errors like this with any mixin other than 0?

[wallet xxxxx]: transfer 2 [xmr send to address here] 2000.4 [payment id]
Error: not enough outputs for specified mixin_count = 2:
output amount = 0.006750010000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.009772250000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.004645490000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.009978569999, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.006642110000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.076933380000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.006983820000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.042614780000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.006233280000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.004649140000, found outputs to mix = 1
output amount = 0.076870580000, found outputs to mix = 1

or even for mixin 1? - Anyone explain?

[wallet xxxxxx]: transfer 1 [xmr send to address here] 2000.4 [payment id]
Error: not enough money to transfer, available only 27.858080413699, transaction
 amount 250.050000000000 = 250.050000000000 + 0.000000000000 (fee)

[wallet xxxxxx]: balance
Balance: 2000.518080413699, unlocked balance: 2000.518080413699, including unlocked dust: 0.095951323699

Now I know if i use mixin of 0 it will work, but why can't I use anything else?

FYI, I'm using Monero 'Hydrogen Helix' (v0.9.1.0-release) on windows x64/win 7 - Thanks!

Edit - is my tx fee too small, I don't know what it should be anymore?

The more complete answer is that enough of your balance consists of dust that that wallet is unable to construct a transaction of the requested size (including the necessary fees) without using the dust. The dust can't be mixed as you specified so the request fails.

The process of constructing transactions is not trivial because the amount needed depends on the fee. If the fee is large it requires adding more inputs which makes the transaction larger which further increases the fees. It is usually able to succeed (which may require splitting it up into multiple pieces, adding further complication), but not if the amount is close to the balance. How close causes problems depends on the details. In short it is usually better to not try to send the entire balance in one transaction.

[dEBRUYNE]

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[owlcatz]

we have no idea how many outputs that 2000 is made up of. Therefore, its impossible to know whether his transaction of 2000 could go through with only 0.518080413699 xmr available for fees, of which 0.095951323699 is useless dust.

Perhaps he should sweep_dust, and then see how much he has left.

Hi, thanks, is there any way to tell  how outputs a balance is made up of? Also, what does sweep_dust do exactly, make it not dust?

The more complete answer is that enough of your balance consists of dust that that wallet is unable to construct a transaction of the requested size (including the necessary fees) without using the dust. The dust can't be mixed as you specified so the request fails.

The process of constructing transactions is not trivial because the amount needed depends on the fee. If the fee is large it requires adding more inputs which makes the transaction larger which further increases the fees. It is usually able to succeed (which may require splitting it up into multiple pieces, adding further complication), but not if the amount is close to the balance. How close causes problems depends on the details. In short it is usually better to not try to send the entire balance in one transaction.

Thank you very much. I was able to send in 3 sets using mixin 0 - first batch of 1k, then 500, then another 500 - So I guess you were all right, I wasn't aware of the dust issue.

Is it safe to assume that in the future, any official GUI wallet or something will account/help with this issue, like coin control etc? I mean, if people can move thousands of bitcoins around without any issue like this, why not Monero someday? Thanks again everyone.

[?chooseusername]

If mymonero goes down there is no way I can access my wallet, right? I tried to use the simple wallet but is not very user-friendly. Are there more options? cheers

[dEBRUYNE]

If mymonero goes down there is no way I can access my wallet, right? I tried to use the simple wallet but is not very user-friendly. Are there more options? cheers

Here is your answer:

is there a problem with mymonero today? when i login i can't see any transaction history or balance ...

Indeed - looks like the Galera cluster is getting hammered by a DoS, which is causing deadlocks for legitimate users. I'm busy filtering it out and it should be fine within the next 10-15 minutes.

cool, thanks fluffy (for a moment I thought the worst ... cryptsy'ed)

Even if MM disappeared we still wouldn't be able to spend your coins, and you'd be able to recover them either through some other service or directly through a modified simplewallet:)

Are there more options? cheers

All client options are here:

https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

In addition, you could generate a (cold) paper wallet using MoneroAddress:

https://moneroaddress.org/

It's simply a port of:

https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/

[?chooseusername]

If mymonero goes down there is no way I can access my wallet, right? I tried to use the simple wallet but is not very user-friendly. Are there more options? cheers

Here is your answer:

is there a problem with mymonero today? when i login i can't see any transaction history or balance ...

Indeed - looks like the Galera cluster is getting hammered by a DoS, which is causing deadlocks for legitimate users. I'm busy filtering it out and it should be fine within the next 10-15 minutes.

cool, thanks fluffy (for a moment I thought the worst ... cryptsy'ed)

Even if MM disappeared we still wouldn't be able to spend your coins, and you'd be able to recover them either through some other service or directly through a modified simplewallet:)

Are there more options? cheers

All client options are here:

https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

In addition, you could generate a (cold) paper wallet using MoneroAddress:

https://moneroaddress.org/

It's simply a port of:

https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/

Thanks, any idea if there is a mobile wallet coming up for Monero?

[dEBRUYNE]

Thanks, any idea if there is a mobile wallet coming up for Monero?

There is this one already:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498

[Hueristic]

Thanks, any idea if there is a mobile wallet coming up for Monero?

There is this one already:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498&hl=nl

This needs to be in English. Especially the comments for 1 star.

[dEBRUYNE]

Thanks, any idea if there is a mobile wallet coming up for Monero?

There is this one already:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498&hl=nl

This needs to be in English. Especially the comments for 1 star.

Fixed the link.

[ArticMine]

Thanks, any idea if there is a mobile wallet coming up for Monero?

There is this one already:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498&hl=nl

This needs to be in English. Especially the comments for 1 star.

Fixed the link.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498 Stripping the &hl=nl from the URL changes the language

[langfangzishang]

4 days ago I saved money to poloniex, 10 times in 9913.5 XMR. results with poloniex multiple e-mail

was informed that the coin is lost, the other did not receive. But my wallet XMR is 0.
At that time I used the v0.8.8.6 version of the wallet. After poloniex customer service told me to

replace the latest version of the wallet and re update all blocks using the most original private key.

I replace the poloniex customer service request for the v0-9-1-0 to re update all blocks and use the

most original private key. It's a pity that the coin in the purse still hasn't found it.
My local wallet address is:

45yUtgirL3XZgWMsZB21rWPjpsYbv8VPRAeKPs4fyNjE7ZYUAG1sYqxhhNAAE1rSECJdkQ8ibuYYsSF 75cBJ84ke7qiFsSb
Poloniex wallet address is: address:

47sghzufGhJJDQEbScMCwVBimTuq6L5JiRixD8VeGbpjCTA12noXmi4ZyBZLc99e66NtnKff34fHsGR oyZk3ES1s1V4QVcB

Deposit
ID: f6d774b39050b44974e268c2912e5a75456ce0fa01622f84a0b740500e072e91 Payment
Here are the block records and wallet logs I traded. Please help me, thank you very much!

Balance: 9913.500000000000

Deposit:100   2016-Feb-17 20:54:54.487911
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/b14318595393a6971ddd9de9e441d5a2853130b02f77beec5128ede399c2eb60
Balance: 9813.460000000000

Deposit:1000  2016-Feb-17 2016-Feb-17 20:55:36.707325
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/1d682e58006a288683c7efa29b840d2eb60098e75fe34d9654d556b95cbb3e0c
Balance: 8813.360000000000

Deposit:1000  2016-Feb-17 20:57:01.267162
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/03786ece67df7c1a05b84f90444466211fbcefb5f99048f2c4048be6a9f5d363
Balance: 7813.243333333334

Deposit:1000  2016-Feb-17 20:58:50.637418
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/a2fb98555c359ebde2cf5a9c6ab22602a2ac30e57f64b1c0a2f0233090f0fa86
Balance: 6813.163333333334

Deposit:1000 2016-Feb-17 21:02:41.635630
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/dbe51a797852d15f3a200e92928ad1e04cca18e6d34ddffaa2b04f35f2ba7cf9
Balance: 5813.113838383840

Deposit:2000 2016-Feb-17 21:02:59.853672
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/63a629fe318f7c3a1b9bb5bed970586e4a0be6db8e01571717d4103ec8da1465
Balance: 3813.063838383840

Deposit:2000 2016-Feb-17 21:04:28.012714
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/b200010c08b01243a42749a5100b32039dde84c3b6f889566e3075c423d6a45b
Balance: 1813.013838383840

Deposit:778 2016-Feb-17 21:07:34
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/b04484d4892212abef79251c1bbc07ac7a9f79d368226063917bb9c593d943fd
Balance: 1034.953535353532

Deposit:1034 2016-Feb-17 21:15:45.880486
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/aa557fc49a9b4da2b10cae8f891de6ffa7eec9d9b568f1a7b75236ed7a88bb32
Balance: 0.930000000000

Deposit:0.93 2016-Feb-17 21:27:30.170769 Read command
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/033ecf9b39bf2aee98ee20ac298a835134e0f7095dea5c3729fe8542ada179aa
Balance: 0.000000000000

100+1000+1000+1000+1000+2000+2000+778+1034+0.93=9912.93
Total deposit:9912.93

[?chooseusername]

Thanks, any idea if there is a mobile wallet coming up for Monero?

There is this one already:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498&hl=nl

This needs to be in English. Especially the comments for 1 star.

Fixed the link.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498 Stripping the &hl=nl from the URL changes the language

Doesn't seem to be very reliable...

[?chooseusername]

how do you send XMR from your offline wallet? https://moneroaddress.org. is the seed compatible?

[novag]

Good post from reddit!

Awesome thank you! I havent been in Monero long but I have noticed that the XMR community is very high quality. Tons of very knowledgeable people, long term focus, not just trying to pump or market some crap and make money off of noobs.

[dEBRUYNE]

Thanks, any idea if there is a mobile wallet coming up for Monero?

There is this one already:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498&hl=nl

This needs to be in English. Especially the comments for 1 star.

Fixed the link.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ionicframework.monerowallet116498 Stripping the &hl=nl from the URL changes the language

Doesn't seem to be very reliable...

It's basically a fork of MyMonero.

[dEBRUYNE]

how do you send XMR from your offline wallet? https://moneroaddress.org. is the seed compatible?

[1] Paper wallets are usually used to simply store coins. They aren't convenient to send transactions. You can recover/restore your wallet with the mnemonic seed provided by Moneroaddress.

[2] The seed is compatible with both simplewallet and MyMonero. Thus, you can use both to restore/recover your wallet.

[dEBRUYNE]

4 days ago I saved money to poloniex, 10 times in 9913.5 XMR. results with poloniex multiple e-mail

was informed that the coin is lost, the other did not receive. But my wallet XMR is 0.
At that time I used the v0.8.8.6 version of the wallet. After poloniex customer service told me to

replace the latest version of the wallet and re update all blocks using the most original private key.

I replace the poloniex customer service request for the v0-9-1-0 to re update all blocks and use the

most original private key. It's a pity that the coin in the purse still hasn't found it.
My local wallet address is:

45yUtgirL3XZgWMsZB21rWPjpsYbv8VPRAeKPs4fyNjE7ZYUAG1sYqxhhNAAE1rSECJdkQ8ibuYYsSF 75cBJ84ke7qiFsSb
Poloniex wallet address is: address:

47sghzufGhJJDQEbScMCwVBimTuq6L5JiRixD8VeGbpjCTA12noXmi4ZyBZLc99e66NtnKff34fHsGR oyZk3ES1s1V4QVcB

Deposit
ID: f6d774b39050b44974e268c2912e5a75456ce0fa01622f84a0b740500e072e91 Payment
Here are the block records and wallet logs I traded. Please help me, thank you very much!

Balance: 9913.500000000000

Deposit:100   2016-Feb-17 20:54:54.487911
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/b14318595393a6971ddd9de9e441d5a2853130b02f77beec5128ede399c2eb60
Balance: 9813.460000000000

Deposit:1000  2016-Feb-17 2016-Feb-17 20:55:36.707325
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/1d682e58006a288683c7efa29b840d2eb60098e75fe34d9654d556b95cbb3e0c
Balance: 8813.360000000000

Deposit:1000  2016-Feb-17 20:57:01.267162
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/03786ece67df7c1a05b84f90444466211fbcefb5f99048f2c4048be6a9f5d363
Balance: 7813.243333333334

Deposit:1000  2016-Feb-17 20:58:50.637418
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/a2fb98555c359ebde2cf5a9c6ab22602a2ac30e57f64b1c0a2f0233090f0fa86
Balance: 6813.163333333334

Deposit:1000 2016-Feb-17 21:02:41.635630
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/dbe51a797852d15f3a200e92928ad1e04cca18e6d34ddffaa2b04f35f2ba7cf9
Balance: 5813.113838383840

Deposit:2000 2016-Feb-17 21:02:59.853672
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/63a629fe318f7c3a1b9bb5bed970586e4a0be6db8e01571717d4103ec8da1465
Balance: 3813.063838383840

Deposit:2000 2016-Feb-17 21:04:28.012714
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/b200010c08b01243a42749a5100b32039dde84c3b6f889566e3075c423d6a45b
Balance: 1813.013838383840

Deposit:778 2016-Feb-17 21:07:34
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/b04484d4892212abef79251c1bbc07ac7a9f79d368226063917bb9c593d943fd
Balance: 1034.953535353532

Deposit:1034 2016-Feb-17 21:15:45.880486
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/aa557fc49a9b4da2b10cae8f891de6ffa7eec9d9b568f1a7b75236ed7a88bb32
Balance: 0.930000000000

Deposit:0.93 2016-Feb-17 21:27:30.170769 Read command
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/033ecf9b39bf2aee98ee20ac298a835134e0f7095dea5c3729fe8542ada179aa
Balance: 0.000000000000

100+1000+1000+1000+1000+2000+2000+778+1034+0.93=9912.93
Total deposit:9912.93

It seems like you forgot to include a payment ID in your transactions. See for example the first transaction -> http://moneroblocks.info/search/b14318595393a6971ddd9de9e441d5a2853130b02f77beec5128ede399c2eb60

Also, I am not entirely sure but I think poloniex is running the latest version.

EDIT: I checked the rest of your transactions, you forgot to include payment ID in each one of them. This is the problem. Contact Poloniex as soon as possible! Just ask them which additional information they need from you to verify the transactions are yours. Perhaps you need to provide them with additional information such that you can prove that the transactions are yours.

[fluffypony]

It seems like you forgot to include a payment ID in your transactions. See for example the first transaction -> http://moneroblocks.info/search/b14318595393a6971ddd9de9e441d5a2853130b02f77beec5128ede399c2eb60

Also, I am not entirely sure but I think poloniex is running the latest version.

Agreed - none of those transactions have payment IDs.

[bitebits]

4 days ago I saved money to poloniex, 10 times in 9913.5 XMR. [...]

was informed that the coin is lost, the other did not receive. But my wallet XMR is 0.

Did you use the Payment ID as well for the transfer to Poloniex? Since there is a warning in the deposit section:

You MUST send your deposit using the unique Payment ID below. Failure to do so may result in the loss of your deposit.

If not I assume Poloniex still received your transfer, but the balance is not automatically linked to your account.


EDIT: too slow. You dEBRUYNE and fluffypony are amazing, thanks for the effortless support.