[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[Forbet]

What is happening with this coin right now? I'm never seen the price this low. I want to invest but why are people selling?

Monero, Boolberry and Bytecoin are being dumped for Stealthcoin. It doesn't have the bloat.

[dEBRUYNE]

Ok, stopped right out of the gate!  Downloaded wallet from "http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x64.latest.zip" and it is infected and not with false positives we are used to seeing.

VirusTotal shows the following infections in this wallet..........

1.  Hacktool.Win64.Agent.ALn
2.  not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win64.Agent.x
3.  Trj/Chgt.F

Funny it said the file was previously scanned and was completely clean, I told it to rescan and this is what it came up with.  Not risking this one being fake.

Holy crap......just scanned the CPU miner and it is LOADED as well.  I am sure many are false positives but this was found to have over 21 viruses, numerous Trojans.

With all the crap out there these days, this is enough to scare me off this coin.  I am used to seeing some false positives here and there due to miners but this is too steep for my risk levels.

Any devs got a command on this? Probably just FUD'ing, but would be okay for lurkers to read a statement about this.

[jwinterm]

What is happening with this coin right now? I'm never seen the price this low. I want to invest but why are people selling?

Monero, Boolberry and Bytecoin are being dumped for Stealthcoin. It doesn't have the bloat.

Stealthcoin also doesn't have functioning anonymous transactions, thus it doesn't have bloat. Funny how that works.

[IMJim]

Ok, stopped right out of the gate!  Downloaded wallet from "http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x64.latest.zip" and it is infected and not with false positives we are used to seeing.

VirusTotal shows the following infections in this wallet..........

1.  Hacktool.Win64.Agent.ALn
2.  not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win64.Agent.x
3.  Trj/Chgt.F

Funny it said the file was previously scanned and was completely clean, I told it to rescan and this is what it came up with.  Not risking this one being fake.

Holy crap......just scanned the CPU miner and it is LOADED as well.  I am sure many are false positives but this was found to have over 21 viruses, numerous Trojans.

With all the crap out there these days, this is enough to scare me off this coin.  I am used to seeing some false positives here and there due to miners but this is too steep for my risk levels.

Any devs got a command on this? Probably just FUD'ing, but would be okay for lurkers to read a statement about this.

No man, honestly not fudding at all.  Monero caught my interest today in an IRC chat and I had real interest to try and mine it.  First was surprised at what all was needed to setup for mining, is a bit overwhelming at first glance but decide I would give it a try anyways.

I then went to guide and downloaded the referenced files, as I always do I checked them on VirusTotal.  NEVER have I seen so many positives before and many not referring to bitcoin miners that we all know are false positives.  What I saw after scanning both files was enough to scare me off man, that is all.......no fud intended.  Not the way I roll!

[smooth]

Ok, stopped right out of the gate!  Downloaded wallet from "http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x64.latest.zip" and it is infected and not with false positives we are used to seeing.

VirusTotal shows the following infections in this wallet..........

1.  Hacktool.Win64.Agent.ALn
2.  not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win64.Agent.x
3.  Trj/Chgt.F

Funny it said the file was previously scanned and was completely clean, I told it to rescan and this is what it came up with.  Not risking this one being fake.

Holy crap......just scanned the CPU miner and it is LOADED as well.  I am sure many are false positives but this was found to have over 21 viruses, numerous Trojans.

With all the crap out there these days, this is enough to scare me off this coin.  I am used to seeing some false positives here and there due to miners but this is too steep for my risk levels.

Any devs got a command on this? Probably just FUD'ing, but would be okay for lurkers to read a statement about this.

No man, honestly not fudding at all.  Monero caught my interest today in an IRC chat and I had real interest to try and mine it.  First was surprised at what all was needed to setup for mining, is a bit overwhelming at first glance but decide I would give it a try anyways.

I then went to guide and downloaded the referenced files, as I always do I checked them on VirusTotal.  NEVER have I seen so many positives before and many not referring to bitcoin miners that we all know are false positives.  What I saw after scanning both files was enough to scare me off man, that is all.......no fud intended.  Not the way I roll!

I'm not aware of any actual contamination of the binaries, and almost certainly it is just false positives.

If you're really concerned, download the source and compile it yourself. I never download binaries myself.

[dEBRUYNE]

What is happening with this coin right now? I'm never seen the price this low. I want to invest but why are people selling?

Monero, Boolberry and Bytecoin are being dumped for Stealthcoin. It doesn't have the bloat.

1. Who says people are dumping? Could also be miners just selling to keep up with their cost (because of the high inflation rate monero has).

2. Would you rather have bloating and be truly anonymous or the other way around?

[IMJim]

Thanks guys, but I would have NO idea how to compile anything.

I understand the likelihood of false positives, but again I am seeing WAY too many to be comfortable with as well as virus names I am not accustomed to seeing in wallets and miners.  Just not worth the risk for me without knowing for certain they are in fact clean.

Is all good though, I can partake by trading......was interested really in giving my CPU something to mine but I trade everyday as well so I will just take that route with Monero for now.

Thanks to all for your replies and my apologies if my inquiries came across as potential fud!

[jwinterm]

Thanks guys, but I would have NO idea how to compile anything.

I understand the likelihood of false positives, but again I am seeing WAY too many to be comfortable with as well as virus names I am not accustomed to seeing in wallets and miners.  Just not worth the risk for me without knowing for certain they are in fact clean.

Is all good though, I can partake by trading......was interested really in giving my CPU something to mine but I trade everyday as well so I will just take that route with Monero for now.

Thanks to all for your replies and my apologies if my inquiries came across as potential fud!

There are several pools (I'm pretty sure dwarfpool and minexmr are among them) where you can mine and send directly to an exchange. Then you don't need to run daemon or simplewallet, you can just run cpuminer or whatever. 

[RentaMouse]

Thanks guys, but I would have NO idea how to compile anything.

I understand the likelihood of false positives, but again I am seeing WAY too many to be comfortable with as well as virus names I am not accustomed to seeing in wallets and miners.  Just not worth the risk for me without knowing for certain they are in fact clean.

Is all good though, I can partake by trading......was interested really in giving my CPU something to mine but I trade everyday as well so I will just take that route with Monero for now.

Thanks to all for your replies and my apologies if my inquiries came across as potential fud!

I havent checked it myself but the binaries on monero.cc are maintained by the devteam so I would be surprised if they were infested.

May I suggest the reason you are not accustomed to seeing those virus names is because this is a Cryptonote coin and not a Bitcoin clone so the codebase is fundamentally different - there are certainly Monero botnet mining trojans out there and the miner code they use is an adaptation of the standard XMR miners. Their signatures will be different from Scrypt etc miners so the virus names will be different.

All the same I'm not going to tell anyone to install anything they arent happy about so hopefully one of the devs can confirm the files are ok and the checksums to validate the downloads.

[owlcatz]

What is happening with this coin right now? I'm never seen the price this low. I want to invest but why are people selling?

Monero, Boolberry and Bytecoin are being dumped for Stealthcoin. It doesn't have the bloat.

1. Who says people are dumping? Could also be miners just selling to keep up with their cost (because of the high inflation rate monero has).

2. Would you rather have bloating and be truly anonymous or the other way around?

i'd call it panic selling myself, but hey, just my opinion....

btw - smooth, taco, flufffy... some shill on poloniex's trollbox is claiming that you all "Worship" cryptozoidberg,  spreading fud and about how BBR is better, and that he's the "Best anon dev" on the planet and that you guys worship him... can you touch on your overall feelings about the lone BBR dev at all? I don't see why both coins cannot peacefully co-exist, but the fud is annoying. thanks again.   

[owlcatz]

coin miners often get false positives, in this case the bitmonerod.exe also a miner. Bitcoin and it's Minerd mining client also get false positives.

most AV's will call out minerd - why? cuz it's a "potential" botnet application. ... simple/normal stuff, have it all the time!...

[dEBRUYNE]

What is happening with this coin right now? I'm never seen the price this low. I want to invest but why are people selling?

Monero, Boolberry and Bytecoin are being dumped for Stealthcoin. It doesn't have the bloat.

1. Who says people are dumping? Could also be miners just selling to keep up with their cost (because of the high inflation rate monero has).

2. Would you rather have bloating and be truly anonymous or the other way around?

i'd call it panic selling myself, but hey, just my opinion....

btw - smooth, taco, flufffy... some shill on poloniex's trollbox is claiming that you all "Worship" cryptozoidberg,  spreading fud and about how BBR is better, and that he's the "Best anon dev" on the planet and that you guys worship him... can you touch on your overall feelings about the lone BBR dev at all? I don't see why both coins cannot peacefully co-exist, but the fud is annoying. thanks again.   

Probably just a bit of both, but that's common in a downtrend, same for panic buying in an uptrend.

Btw: don't forget to vote here! http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html

[Njall]

btw - smooth, taco, flufffy... some shill on poloniex's trollbox is claiming that you all "Worship" cryptozoidberg,  spreading fud and about how BBR is better, and that he's the "Best anon dev" on the planet and that you guys worship him... can you touch on your overall feelings about the lone BBR dev at all? I don't see why both coins cannot peacefully co-exist, but the fud is annoying. thanks again.   

Install a Poloniex addon to mute people, from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776060.msg8746634#msg8746634

[owlcatz]

btw - smooth, taco, flufffy... some shill on poloniex's trollbox is claiming that you all "Worship" cryptozoidberg,  spreading fud and about how BBR is better, and that he's the "Best anon dev" on the planet and that you guys worship him... can you touch on your overall feelings about the lone BBR dev at all? I don't see why both coins cannot peacefully co-exist, but the fud is annoying. thanks again.   

Install a Poloniex addon to mute people, from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776060.msg8746634#msg8746634

Thanks, but i just left it for a while, i don't need to ignore people on the trollbox, i was just looking for the truth, as he says xmr devs "Bow" to cryptozoidberg, which i don't believe... thanks!

[smooth]

What is happening with this coin right now? I'm never seen the price this low. I want to invest but why are people selling?

Monero, Boolberry and Bytecoin are being dumped for Stealthcoin. It doesn't have the bloat.

1. Who says people are dumping? Could also be miners just selling to keep up with their cost (because of the high inflation rate monero has).

2. Would you rather have bloating and be truly anonymous or the other way around?

i'd call it panic selling myself, but hey, just my opinion....

btw - smooth, taco, flufffy... some shill on poloniex's trollbox is claiming that you all "Worship" cryptozoidberg,  spreading fud and about how BBR is better, and that he's the "Best anon dev" on the planet and that you guys worship him... can you touch on your overall feelings about the lone BBR dev at all? I don't see why both coins cannot peacefully co-exist, but the fud is annoying. thanks again.   

My feelings are it is called the trollbox for a reason.

As for your question, crypto_zoidberg seems like a reasonable enough guy to me. I've exchanged messages with him on various occasions. I don't worship him or anyone else, but I don't have anything bad to say about him either.

[nioc]

btw - smooth, taco, flufffy... some shill on poloniex's trollbox is claiming that you all "Worship" cryptozoidberg,  spreading fud and about how BBR is better, and that he's the "Best anon dev" on the planet and that you guys worship him... can you touch on your overall feelings about the lone BBR dev at all? I don't see why both coins cannot peacefully co-exist, but the fud is annoying. thanks again.   

Install a Poloniex addon to mute people, from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776060.msg8746634#msg8746634

Thanks, but i just left it for a while, i don't need to ignore people on the trollbox, i was just looking for the truth, as he says xmr devs "Bow" to cryptozoidberg, which i don't believe... thanks!

Are you serious?  I was there and I don't think anyone would take him seriously.  At least he was polite.

I just checked and he is still at it.  I wonder how many hours he is going to keep this up LOL


OK back on topic.  We are waiting for soon.  That is all.

[AdamWhite]

Thanks guys, but I would have NO idea how to compile anything.

I understand the likelihood of false positives, but again I am seeing WAY too many to be comfortable with as well as virus names I am not accustomed to seeing in wallets and miners.  Just not worth the risk for me without knowing for certain they are in fact clean.

Is all good though, I can partake by trading......was interested really in giving my CPU something to mine but I trade everyday as well so I will just take that route with Monero for now.

Thanks to all for your replies and my apologies if my inquiries came across as potential fud!

If you're still wanting to mine give minergate.com a try.. i'm using it to mine xmr and mcn on one pc and it works well!

[owlcatz]

My feelings are it is called the trollbox for a reason.

As for your question, crypto_zoidberg seems like a reasonable enough guy to me. I've exchanged messages with him on various occasions. I don't worship him or anyone else, but I don't have anything bad to say about him either.

I was going to say the exact same thing but I didn't because I'm sure the normal ppl have the same feelings towards his stuff, you just confirmed.

Cool thanks guys.. damn trolls be a trollin.. it's just weird this guy  seems so polite as you say, but continues to dish out nothing but fud or whatever you wanna call it, for literally, HOURs on end, despite everyone telling him he's bs.

And yes, i know it's the troll box for a reason, but i go there daily and have not run into anyone on there quite like this guy/gal/moron, he has zero to offer than "Xmr devs just suck, CZ is god/saviour/anon satoshi" etc.. LMFAO!!!

peace out!

[smooth]

My feelings are it is called the trollbox for a reason.

As for your question, crypto_zoidberg seems like a reasonable enough guy to me. I've exchanged messages with him on various occasions. I don't worship him or anyone else, but I don't have anything bad to say about him either.

I was going to say the exact same thing but I didn't because I'm sure the normal ppl have the same feelings towards his stuff, you just confirmed.

Cool thanks guys.. damn trolls be a trollin.. it's just weird this guy  seems so polite as you say, but continues to dish out nothing but fud or whatever you wanna call it, for literally, HOURs on end, despite everyone telling him he's bs.

And yes, i know it's the troll box for a reason, but i go there daily and have not run into anyone on there quite like this guy/gal/moron, he has zero to offer than "Xmr devs just suck, CZ is god/saviour/anon satoshi" etc.. LMFAO!!!

peace out!

It does seem to me the attacks and trolls have picked up lately. I don''t know why exactly. In that past that has coincided with big price rises, but that's not the case this time. Shrug.

[Njall]

Ok, stopped right out of the gate!  Downloaded wallet from "http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x64.latest.zip" and it is infected and not with false positives we are used to seeing.

VirusTotal shows the following infections in this wallet..........

1.  Hacktool.Win64.Agent.ALn
2.  not-a-virus:RiskTool.Win64.Agent.x
3.  Trj/Chgt.F

Funny it said the file was previously scanned and was completely clean, I told it to rescan and this is what it came up with.  Not risking this one being fake.

Holy crap......just scanned the CPU miner and it is LOADED as well.  I am sure many are false positives but this was found to have over 21 viruses, numerous Trojans.

With all the crap out there these days, this is enough to scare me off this coin.  I am used to seeing some false positives here and there due to miners but this is too steep for my risk levels.

Any devs got a command on this? Probably just FUD'ing, but would be okay for lurkers to read a statement about this.

No man, honestly not fudding at all.  Monero caught my interest today in an IRC chat and I had real interest to try and mine it.  First was surprised at what all was needed to setup for mining, is a bit overwhelming at first glance but decide I would give it a try anyways.

I then went to guide and downloaded the referenced files, as I always do I checked them on VirusTotal.  NEVER have I seen so many positives before and many not referring to bitcoin miners that we all know are false positives.  What I saw after scanning both files was enough to scare me off man, that is all.......no fud intended.  Not the way I roll!

I'm not aware of any actual contamination of the binaries, and almost certainly it is just false positives.

If you're really concerned, download the source and compile it yourself. I never download binaries myself.

Ack, only valid way of doing it. Thank you Snowden for opening our eyes!