CYRious Technologies - CYR Jackhammer $599 / 1.4TH/s

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

CYRious Technologies is announcing the sale of their 1.4 TH/s Bitcoin Miner the CYR-Jackhammer with a pre-order price reduced to $599.00usd for the first 1,000 machines at which time pre-orders will be stopped and the units will return to their $899.00usd price 1 week prior to shipment for the general public.

The decision to fall into the group of “PRE-ORDER” companies was not an easy one but was settled upon to avoid having to seek crowd funding or venture capital funds.  In order to maximize pre-order efficiency and reward CYR has limited their pre-order batch to only 1,000 units in which they will be offering a $300 discount to reward its customers for help during the funding stage.

With the release of the Jackhammer bitcoin miner, CYR aims to put the hash power back in the hands of civilians and away from the big companies who pre-mine with your hardware for months before they ship. They aim to do this by maximizing production numbers to reduce NRE’s and offering a reduced cost to customers to increase affordability and sales.

The heart of the Jackhammer bitcoin miner is 2 of the 28nm Dozer 700GH/s bitcoin mining asic run by its FPGA control board. It’s compact design and 450w power supply make it energy efficient and easily scaled and its USB 3.0 connectivity makes it easy to keep organized across multiple units with a single USB hub.
CYR will be accepting escrow through The Bitcoin Society for pre-orders from bitcointalk forum members only, at the buyer’s expense. For now you will have to use their standard escrow agreement form until they get one drafted specifically for our use.  All other regular orders can be placed through the website.

We are still seeking a re-seller to cover the EU markets, to inquire please write to admin@CYRminers.com

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Website
Trolling Thread
Escrow Link

I have been asked to issue a notice to customers until the web design team gets back into the office on Monday and updates the website. All orders placed through the website are automatically canceled if they are not funded or paid for within 60 minutes of the time the order is created. As there are often several "testing it out" orders with any hardware company and the web interface runs bitcoin-d in the background and generates a new address for each order, to avoid generating multiple addresses which are never used the backed cancels non funded orders after 1 hour and recycles the address after 72 hours.

Legal disclaimer
**CYR Miners and Cyrious technologies is in no way affiliated with or a division of CYRious Software llc.

Q&A edited out of all the troll banter

Since no one is asking the obvious question, I'll do it.

How do you explain the extremely low price? Are you saying other legitimate manufacturers have insanely high margins? Or do you have a new approach that cuts around 70% of your costs compared to the others?

Thank you Tovandnok,

I will try my best to explain it as well as possible, Firstly, the highest expense of manufacturing your own ASIC hardware are the NRE's (non recurring engineering expenses). When a company runs a small production run < 5,000 units they have to spread those expenses across their production run a good example was the hashfast babyjet, less than 1,000 made & very expensive hardware. So by designing a long haul large production run machine (15,000 in just the first batch ) the NRE cost absorbed per unit is less than $5 were most companies exceed $1,000 per unit on their NRE absorption.

Second, most companies make claims ( like delivery dates ) that they know 100% for sure when they make them they cannot meet. They do this to increase sales but it also comes with a cost of legal fees, knowing these fees are coming, many manufacturers build them into the cost of each machine increasing the CPU ( cost per unit )

Next, several companies rely solely on pre-orders to fund 100% of development, and have to squeeze profit out of hype and production. Having to rely on pre-orders for development they cannot accept escrow in most cases. Which means they have to spend fortunes in advertising, PR, and all that jazz. Also built into the cost of each machine.

Lastly, YES, most companies have HUGE margins built into their hardware, not only in cash profit, but in mining with hardware you paid for, some of them (BFL) for over a month.

CYR employees its own Engineers some of which are interns which lowers NRE cost, also with the large production numbers 15,000 units per batch across dozens of batches the cost gets broken down to next to nothing per unit. CYR funded its own development and is only doing pre-orders to slightly offset the first production batch as initial asic samples ran 1.8 Million over budget due to a core issue. Meaning we can accept escrow on about 70% of our pre-orders, removing the need for the over developed website, hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising, and all the fancy show and glow that the other companies need to do as without doing escrow they need to convince you they are legit before you buy. And lastly CYR is very very very ahead of schedule for their late July 2014 shipping date, so they do not need to figure legal costs into the cost per unit.

I hope that answers your question, and thank you for asking.

Questions:

1Why would you not use a reputable known escrow trusted in this forum?
2Where are the FPGA chips being fabricated / bought from?
3Who designed the FPGA chips?
4Who is currently designing your boards?
5Where will your boards be fabricated?
6How can you account for the lower prices given that board costs run nearly that much as your sales price no matter the chips you use?
7How will these units be cooled?

1: the "most reputable" escrows on this forum are crooks with nothing to lose but a forum reputation in which they can start over with
2: the FPGA's are atmel FPSLIC series
3: atmel
4: they were done in house
5: as with most major components they are manufactured in shenzhen china
6: lower cost is a result of better funds managment and more off the shelf components as well as higher production numbers
7: they have a picture of the cooling unit on the slideshow.
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I will do my best to continue to update the original post with the Q&A relevant to the thread so legitimate interested parties dont have to sort through 100 pages of garbage to find answers.

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[raskul]

SCAM

 

[xstr8guy]

I can't wait for the super-sleuths to tear this one apart!

[alani123]

We're on #99999 Lorem Ipsum Street
Quisque PC 45300
Montreal, Canada

This scam is so cheap.

[raskul]

We're on #99999 Lorem Ipsum Street
Quisque PC 45300
Montreal, Canada

This scam is so cheap.

same address as PBMining. 

[alani123]

same address as PBMining. 

The thing with PBminig is that the don't promise to deliver something physical.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

SCAM

 

Oh yes, a scam which takes escrow. arent you a smart one we have a place for you to conduct your usual antics in the trolling thread , also, for the other "super sleuths" you caught a cached version of an expired menu link page. Common problem with drupal. but keep on sleuthing, your all geniuses.

[raskul]

same address as PBMining. 

The thing with PBminig is that the don't promise to deliver something physical.

true enough. I do actually have 400GH/s on there... if I get stung, it's my own silly fault... but hey, gotta roll with the punches.
 

[raskul]

SCAM

 

Oh yes, a scam which takes escrow. arent you a smart one we have a place for you to conduct your usual antics in the trolling thread , also, for the other "super sleuths" you caught a cached version of an expired menu link page. Common problem with drupal. but keep on sleuthing, your all geniuses.

yeah, somehow, your very humble convincing tactics are *just* not selling it to me. keep talking.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

SCAM

 

Oh yes, a scam which takes escrow. arent you a smart one we have a place for you to conduct your usual antics in the trolling thread , also, for the other "super sleuths" you caught a cached version of an expired menu link page. Common problem with drupal. but keep on sleuthing, your all geniuses.

yeah, somehow, your very humble convincing tactics are *just* not selling it to me. keep talking.

My apologies raskul, this is not a "sales thread" if it were it would be in the marketplace. This is an information thread simply sharing information. If you want to be sold, please contact the admin@cyrminers.com and i believe they can get you in touch with one of the salesmen.

[miter_myles]

lol @ a dedicated trolling thread in the OP...

[jelin1984]

I will buy your whole miners

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

I will buy your whole miners

I'm sorry, i'm not quite sure i understand what your asking. They will be complete when they ship if that is what you were getting at ? The photo's are just an empty case, a prototype from the case MFG.

anyways, can you clarify a little better? if i cannot answer your question i can get you in touch with the people who can.

[miter_myles]

So - where is the (https)SSL protection with my PII when I go to checkout???

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

So - where is the (https)SSL protection with my PII when I go to checkout???

You would have to e-mail admin@cyrminers.com I am not the brains of the operation and not qualified to answer that question, Not that i dont know what an SSL is, i just do not know why it is not showing during checkout. If i had to guess i would say it is because of the bitcoin payment in which no CC number or vital info is given so there is no need for it. But thats just a guess. I was just hired to do a few forums and reddit and stuff and deal with the trolls. for $15 an hour its well worth it. I always got a kick out of trolls anyways, always good for a few laughs. Therefore why i started a dedicated thread just for them, so i dont get in trouble for feeding them on the "conducting business" thread.

Best i could offer is to e-mail them and ask or i can put it down on my list and find out on Monday for you when they are back to work if you would like. Sorry i couldnt be of more help immediately, its after hours and the only reason i am still on the forums / social media / other stuff is because some of the other forums are proving to be quite entertaining at this late hour.

[titomane]

Jajajajaja Someone fall?

[alani123]

So - where is the (https)SSL protection with my PII when I go to checkout???

Their website seems realy fishy overall. It migh be built on a template.

Someone posted the link to the website on reddit, (Propably OP here) http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24k3rg/cyr_announces_14ths_for_599/

There is a whois as a comment. Can't find more info currently. OP needs to do a better job if he wants to gain the community's trust.

[miter_myles]

I would imagine so as the "photos" are kept on a photo bucket account instead of within the actual site/domain

* seems like we have a lot of "companies/operations" sprouting up again.. perhaps it would be wise to break this forum into the "Pre-order/announcement hardware" with all the proper warning and red flag alerts...  and then a "current/shipping now hardware"... just seems like a lot of "fake" clutter

[tzortz]

There is no contact link, huh?

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

So - where is the (https)SSL protection with my PII when I go to checkout???

Their website seems realy fishy overall. It migh be built on a template.

Someone posted the link to the website on reddit, (Propably OP here) http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/24k3rg/cyr_announces_14ths_for_599/

There is a whois as a comment. Can't find more info currently. OP needs to do a better job if he wants to gain the community's trust.

Nope thats not my Reddit thread, although i do have one which is proving to be the most entertaining of the night thus far.

There is no contact link, huh?

I'm not the web guy, but i am sure they will have it all worked out over the next few weeks, not near fast enough for the superhuman members of bitcointalk.org, but i'm sure the rest of the real bitcoin society will be content.

I would imagine so as the "photos" are kept on a photo bucket account instead of within the actual site/domain

* seems like we have a lot of "companies/operations" sprouting up again.. perhaps it would be wise to break this forum into the "Pre-order/announcement hardware" with all the proper warning and red flag alerts...  and then a "current/shipping now hardware"... just seems like a lot of "fake" clutter

There are photos on the website, quite a few actually, i just linked to their slideshow on facebook because its the only slideshow i have access to. As for moving the thread, sure why not, i get paid to answer what questions i can and filter through the troll blather to find legitimate questions and make sure they get in touch with the right people, again for those who missed it in the previous post, this IS NOT A SALES THREAD, henceforth why it is not in the marketplace section. This is more a Q&A thread, with a separate trolling thread for sheer entertainment value.


as for building credibility, again not my job, The heatsink and fan, PSU, and concept art, sure easy to get / fake / steal if one wanted to, but they have pictures of their actual sample case on their website which would have cost a small fortune to have made just to "scam" 1 or 2 people if that was the intent. Its 500% more than the overnight scam sensations have been able to produce when they pop up on this and other forums. So hows about we pipe down with the nonsense and keep it to honest and legit questions so i can assist the people who really have good questions and keep the dumb stuff to the trolling thread. Now that parts are ordered, things are arriving, and a website is under development i am sure over the next week tops the company will handle its only legitimacy issues on its own. In todays meeting there were talks of having a working prototype done in a week to a week and a half and available for live streaming from the shop floor. So save it until then, or dont order until then.

The one thing that 99% of you missed is that they agreed to take escrow through a legit organisation who themselves has good history on this and other forums. Meaning if you have legitimacy issues, you have a way to protect yourself. I dont get paid to sell, and most of you, well thats giving a little too much credit, some of you are smart enough to figure it out. If it were me personally, i WOULDNT order without using escrow myself. People who dont use escrow are asking to get ripped off in most cases, not saying this is one of them, just that escrow was designed for that purpose.

[tzortz]

Where are you located?

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Where are you located?

Finally a valid question. Are you asking me personally where am i at, or where is the company HQ?

[miter_myles]

Where are you located?

Finally a valid question. Are you asking me personally where am i at, or where is the company HQ?

I believe I asked a very valid question regarding SSL... (which you sort of acknowledged passing it off as a non-issue in your opinion)

I don't care if no CC info is being passed on.. regardless.. my PII (personally identifiable information / IE: address, etc) shouldn't be passed without some sort of security...  huge red flag.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Where are you located?

Finally a valid question. Are you asking me personally where am i at, or where is the company HQ?

I believe I asked a very valid question regarding SSL... (which you sort of acknowledged passing it off as a non-issue in your opinion)

I don't care if no CC info is being passed on.. regardless.. my PII (personally identifiable information / IE: address, etc) shouldn't be passed without some sort of security...  huge red flag.

My aplogies, i forgot about your question, i didnt mean to imply it wasnt valid, only that PII such as name, address, phone number is VERY PUBLIC information to anyone with a brain. I would be willing to take a shot at your name being Myles Wagner, and that you work the Miter saw at TrueWood. that you live in Lineville Alabama. I could be wrong, but its not likley. I'm not trying to put you off or anything, only stating my thoughts on what PII is really sensitive and what is not.

But yes, you had a valid question and i appreciate that.

[Syke]

All other regular orders can be placed through the website.

Bingo. There's how they profit from this scam. They're hoping that some people will see the "escrow available" and go ahead and order and pay directly.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

All other regular orders can be placed through the website.

Bingo. There's how they profit from this scam. They're hoping that some people will see the "escrow available" and go ahead and order and pay directly.

Would you feel safer if it was ESCROW ONLY ? 90% of the orders from tonight went through escrow. i didnt think it needed to be spelled out in crayon. Legit or otherwise, YOUR AN IDIOT IF YOU DONT USE ESCROW IF ITS OFFERED. Look at BFL, if people would have / could have used escrow, they would have not lost nearly as much as they did.

+1 for being such a genius Syke, I'm so glad to see there are so many super intelligent people on this forum. You guys should be proud of yourselves...... Keep it to the troll thread....

Now, back to business.

[Unacceptable]

Where are you located?

Finally a valid question. Are you asking me personally where am i at, or where is the company HQ?

I believe I asked a very valid question regarding SSL... (which you sort of acknowledged passing it off as a non-issue in your opinion)

I don't care if no CC info is being passed on.. regardless.. my PII (personally identifiable information / IE: address, etc) shouldn't be passed without some sort of security...  huge red flag.

My aplogies, i forgot about your question, i didnt mean to imply it wasnt valid, only that PII such as name, address, phone number is VERY PUBLIC information to anyone with a brain. I would be willing to take a shot at your name being Myles Wagner, and that you work the Miter saw at TrueWood. that you live in Lineville Alabama. I could be wrong, but its not likley. I'm not trying to put you off or anything, only stating my thoughts on what PII is really sensitive and what is not.

But yes, you had a valid question and i appreciate that.

So much for protecting identies....way to give out possible personal info.... The info may be publically obtainable,but that should have been done in a PM to him 

I'll be watching & reading to see how your ASIC's develop.Good luck!!

[Syke]

Would you feel safer if it was ESCROW ONLY ?

Yes.

90% of the orders from tonight went through escrow.

So your scam was profitable today.

+1 for being such a genius Syke, I'm so glad to see there are so many super intelligent people on this forum. You guys should be proud of yourselves...... Keep it to the troll thread....

Oh, we're just getting started.

Registrar URL: http://www.melbourneit.com.au

Ah, so you're an Australian company?

Registrant Street: 19 California St
Registrant City: San Francisco

No, wait, you're based in downtown SF. Strange, I don't remember a building at 19 California St. Why don't you post a photo of your building?

Registrant Phone: +1.8669420494

That's a Yahoo Customer Service phone line. Now Yahoo is building bitcoin miners?

PING cyrminers.com (208.131.151.181) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from slmp-550-119.slc.westdc.net (208.131.151.181): icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=22.7 ms

And your server is hosted in Utah.

So where is your company? You do have a real company don't you?

[seriouscoin]

OP, i wish you a horrible death. What a fcking disgrace of humanity.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Since no one is asking the obvious question, I'll do it.

How do you explain the extremely low price? Are you saying other legitimate manufacturers have insanely high margins? Or do you have a new approach that cuts around 70% of your costs compared to the others?

Thank you Tovandnok,

I will try my best to explain it as well as possible, Firstly, the highest expense of manufacturing your own ASIC hardware are the NRE's (non recurring engineering expenses). When a company runs a small production run < 5,000 units they have to spread those expenses across their production run a good example was the hashfast babyjet, less than 1,000 made & very expensive hardware. So by designing a long haul large production run machine (15,000 in just the first batch ) the NRE cost absorbed per unit is less than $5 were most companies exceed $1,000 per unit on their NRE absorption.

Second, most companies make claims ( like delivery dates ) that they know 100% for sure when they make them they cannot meet. They do this to increase sales but it also comes with a cost of legal fees, knowing these fees are coming, many manufacturers build them into the cost of each machine increasing the CPU ( cost per unit )

Next, several companies rely solely on pre-orders to fund 100% of development, and have to squeeze profit out of hype and production. Having to rely on pre-orders for development they cannot accept escrow in most cases. Which means they have to spend fortunes in advertising, PR, and all that jazz. Also built into the cost of each machine.

Lastly, YES, most companies have HUGE margins built into their hardware, not only in cash profit, but in mining with hardware you paid for, some of them (BFL) for over a month.

CYR employees its own Engineers some of which are interns which lowers NRE cost, also with the large production numbers 15,000 units per batch across dozens of batches the cost gets broken down to next to nothing per unit. CYR funded its own development and is only doing pre-orders to slightly offset the first production batch as initial asic samples ran 1.8 Million over budget due to a core issue. Meaning we can accept escrow on about 70% of our pre-orders, removing the need for the over developed website, hundreds of thousands of dollars on advertising, and all the fancy show and glow that the other companies need to do as without doing escrow they need to convince you they are legit before you buy. And lastly CYR is very very very ahead of schedule for their late July 2014 shipping date, so they do not need to figure legal costs into the cost per unit.

I hope that answers your question, and thank you for asking.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Would you feel safer if it was ESCROW ONLY ?

Yes.

90% of the orders from tonight went through escrow.

So your scam was profitable today.

+1 for being such a genius Syke, I'm so glad to see there are so many super intelligent people on this forum. You guys should be proud of yourselves...... Keep it to the troll thread....

Oh, we're just getting started.

Registrar URL: http://www.melbourneit.com.au

Ah, so you're an Australian company?

Registrant Street: 19 California St
Registrant City: San Francisco

No, wait, you're based in downtown SF. Strange, I don't remember a building at 19 California St. Why don't you post a photo of your building?

Registrant Phone: +1.8669420494

That's a Yahoo Customer Service phone line. Now Yahoo is building bitcoin miners?

PING cyrminers.com (208.131.151.181) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from slmp-550-119.slc.westdc.net (208.131.151.181): icmp_req=1 ttl=51 time=22.7 ms

And your server is hosted in Utah.

So where is your company? You do have a real company don't you?

Ok, i can sum this up quite quickly,

1: we will not force people into escrow fees if they do not want to use escrow
2: You and the other 3 idiots are the only ones still screaming scam. But yep they were profitable today.
3: by all means, keep going then. I find you amusing.
4: Boy your smart. Melbourn IT is a domain Registrar. one of the largest on the planet. based in Australia. Do you know how to interpret WHO.is info? Oh wait your a genius.
5: I got a better one, why dont you go take a photo and show there is not a building at 19 California street in silicone valley your the one making aqusations
6: Yahoo is a re-seller of domains for Melbourn IT. surprise their phone number is listed.

7, 8, 9, & 10

I was trying to remain respectful but you make it hard, so let me just end with, you are an ABSOLUTE idiot, and you have ZERO idea what you are babbling about. You have NOTHING what so ever besides accusations which are as useful as nipples on a bull. If your aim was to show how much you lack in intelligence, you have succeeded i dont care how many posts you have so take it to the troll thread where you belong.

Now, back to the legitimate questions and business.

[seriouscoin]

Oh you want legitimate question? let me play with you little piece of shit.

Who are your teams? list them with their real name and title. Also give me a real physical location of your "company" so i can come to kick your fcking little ass.

[edgar]

phonie x's mate aussie nobody.. 'payonix pete' ala payonix fame among others

theyre 'really' close mates so expect attitude.

he hasnt 'turned coat' like phonie is trying to do as of late.

both vermin, love the scam life

[seriouscoin]

Host Connection: USB 3.0 required

What a piece of work there.....

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Oh you want legitimate question? let me play with you little piece of shit.

Who are your teams? list them with their real name and title. Also give me a real physical location of your "company" so i can come to kick your fcking little ass.

Seriouscoin, get lost, look at your post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54366;sa=showPosts) hundreds and hundreds of posts nothing more than you being a troll and frankly an asshat.

Cointerra, you think we're all idiots?

Fck off pls, you scammed ppl enough. There are tons of ppl who are waiting for their refund and you came on here pretending you're open for communication. How about refund their god damn money you piece of shit.

OP. welcome to my ignore dumb fck.

You are totally right, today the mining is handled only by a few mining networks, that should not suppose a problem as long those networks are not able to falsify BTC (at least I think so, but... Is it possible for a mining pool to validate fake transactions?). On the other hand there is another problem related with that: The Rogue pools.

Pools that only think in money, what will happen in 2050 by the time when the maximum BTC will be reached? If there is no profit for validating a transaction. Why would a miner spend his computing power (with all its related costs) for nothing?

Stop posting and start reading noob, so much BS in one post.

I have to say, i think you are the biggest POS on this forum i have ever seen and the writing is on the wall. so beyond just pointing out the obvious above. i am done with you now.

[ChuckBuck]

I'd like to order 10 of these.

Please post the BTC address to send to.  

[seriouscoin]

Oh you want legitimate question? let me play with you little piece of shit.

Who are your teams? list them with their real name and title. Also give me a real physical location of your "company" so i can come to kick your fcking little ass.

Seriouscoin, get lost, look at your post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54366;sa=showPosts) hundreds and hundreds of posts nothing more than you being a troll and frankly an asshat.

Cointerra, you think we're all idiots?

Fck off pls, you scammed ppl enough. There are tons of ppl who are waiting for their refund and you came on here pretending you're open for communication. How about refund their god damn money you piece of shit.

Way to doge "legitimate questions"

Let me guess............ because you cant answer them.

I hate scammers and thieves, the worst sin of all. Like i said, i wish you and your whole family have horrible death.

In fact i think this is your second account. After being fcked in the ass, you decided why not join them?

Your poor attempt is a joke, punk ass.

[daddyfatsax]

Who are you accepting as escrow?

[seriouscoin]

Who are you accepting as escrow?

Do you realize accepting escrow has 2 advantages?

1) some idiots will purchase without using escrow : Profit

2) your money is tight up to buy other miners. Effectively delaying difficulty increase. I bet this POS is a miner himself, possibly got fcked multiple times by BFL and HashFast.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

I'd like to order 10 of these.

Please post the BTC address to send to.  

Hi Chuck,

i dont handle sales and do not have payment addresses for CYR. If you are looking for escrow, click on the link in the original post. The Bitcoin Society is handling escrow for CYR. If you want to go direct order then you can do it through the website.

On a personal note i always recommend escrow when available.

[Syke]

5: I got a better one, why dont you go take a photo and show there is not a building at 19 California street in silicone valley your the one making aqusations

Sure thing. The building on the right is Wells Fargo at 1 California. The tree on the left is 19 California.

http://s18.postimg.org/qfwsztdll/image.png



P.S. If you're going to call someone an "ABSOLUTE idiot", you might want to figure out what the difference between "silicone" and "silicon", the difference between "you're" and "your", and how to spell "accusations".

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

5: I got a better one, why dont you go take a photo and show there is not a building at 19 California street in silicone valley your the one making aqusations

Sure thing. The building on the right is Wells Fargo at 1 California. The tree on the left is 19 California.

http://s18.postimg.org/qfwsztdll/image.png

http://s18.postimg.org/qfwsztdll/image.png

P.S. If you're going to call someone an "ABSOLUTE idiot", you might want to figure out what the difference between "silicone" and "silicon", the difference between "you're" and "your", and how to spell "accusations".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA your not eve on the right block of California St.

[cr4sh0verride]

I'm not sure what you expected when you got here..

There are plenty of people on these forums that have been through it all and around again
They are akin to all of the scams/dodgy dealings that go on around these parts of town

You only have to take a look at what a company like Spondoolies is doing and put all the following into perspective

1. You're offering a product that blows everything on the market currently out of the water.. not even by a small amount.. by a factor of almost 4/1. This would almost be the equivalent of an unknown CPU maker popping up selling a 64core 12GHZ processor.. Yet the information provided on the actual machine is sketchy at best..To achieve these sort of numbers you would need to be at 20nm manufacturing or below.. I mean AMD and NVidia aren't even there yet!

2. Just in the first 3 pages of posts your mannerism have come across and complete unprofessional. You're going to get sceptical people questioning your product and to retaliate already as you have not something a person in a company with this sort of technology would do

3. Transparency especially in Bitcoin is paramount to success. Every question you dodge is another tick in the sceptics check-list.

To be honest it doesn't even matter about all of this.. the fantastic claims of your product is the biggest red flag hurdle you will need to overcome
Prove your hardware works, post videos/screenshots of it working with time/date stamps, allow Escrow from Trusted forum members and send review units to Trusted forum members..

Until you can do this it doesn't matter where you're located.. how bad your spelling is ... I won't use the word scam I'm going to say you have an illegitimate product

[s1gs3gv]

$599 is about what a 1.4TH machine needs to sell for if the customer is going to get a decent ROI

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

$599 is about what a 1.4TH machine needs to sell for if the customer is going to get a decent ROI

Finally someone who gets it.

But since its the first company in the history of bitcoin to be fair with its customers, it must be a scam right?

anyways, i have to go handle daddy duties for the night before my wife burns my computers. i'll handle all legitimate questions again tomorrow, and maybe feed a few more trolls for kicks and giggles.

[Syke]

anyways, i have to go handle daddy duties for the night before my wife burns my computers. i'll handle all legitimate questions again tomorrow, and maybe feed a few more trolls for kicks and giggles.

Very simple question. Where is your company?

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

anyways, i have to go handle daddy duties for the night before my wife burns my computers. i'll handle all legitimate questions again tomorrow, and maybe feed a few more trolls for kicks and giggles.

Very simple question. Where is your company?

Scroll up, we covered this already. You will now be ignored on this thread, wasting my time and the time of everyone else trying to find answers who has to read through pages of crap from the troll factory.

[Syke]

Very simple question. Where is your company?

Scroll up, we covered this already. You will now be ignored on this thread, wasting my time and the time of everyone else trying to find answers who has to read through pages of crap from the troll factory.

I don't see it answered. Please quote where you answered the question.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Ahh, the old just slipping in 'im a family man and therefore trustworthy' ruse.

immediately followed by rabid nonsense.

"daddy duties can wait, dammit"

an infant eats and shits on their own schedule its not about family anything its about responsibility and has nothing to do with any of this, we have already established that you and the other few trolls who found a place to hide from real life for the night are not here to order hardware  or anything more than speculate for that matter. so kindly remove yourself from the discussion so real customers with real questions can get answers.

[bit_wizard]

What about a prototype? Photos, technical specs, sample units, YouTube video?
I've played this game before, prove to me that I should spend my money on this company.
Please and thank you.

[seriouscoin]

Ahh, the old just slipping in 'im a family man and therefore trustworthy' ruse.

immediately followed by rabid nonsense.

"daddy duties can wait, dammit"

an infant eats and shits on their own schedule its not about family anything its about responsibility and has nothing to do with any of this, we have already established that you and the other few trolls who found a place to hide from real life for the night are not here to order hardware  or anything more than speculate for that matter. so kindly remove yourself from the discussion so real customers with real questions can get answers.

Your "infant" will die soon anyway... so why not take 1 min to answer straight questions?


I guess you got a sucker that sent you money and decided thats good enough....

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

What about a prototype? Photos, technical specs, sample units, YouTube video?
I've played this game before, prove to me that I should spend my money on this company.
Please and thank you.

Sure thing bit wizard, It will be about a week and a half until a finished prototype is assembled, but for now you can view what pics there are through the link on the original post. They update that slideshow as they add more photos to their site. Tech specs are on the website as well. I am not sure what you mean by sample units but if you clarify i can work on that for you, and as for a youtube video they will do one better, as soon as the prototype is up and working full speed there will be live streaming on the website.

Also i dont know if you caught it in the original post but they will accept escrow too if you want to contact the escrow company the link is on the original post. I was told that they would be commenting on this thread but have not seen them yet.

[seriouscoin]

This is the tech spec OP is preferring to :  

Specifications:

Maximum mining rate: 1.6 TH/s (with upgraded cooling)

Factory mining rate: 1.4 TH/s

Power: 12v @ 450 watts

Chips: 2 X CYR "DOZER" 700GH/s Asics

Size: 6.25" wide by 13" long by 3" high

Host Connection: USB 3.0 required

LOL i can think of some one that can beat you..... TOM! (the fat fck from New York - anyone remember him? )

Are you him?

[seriouscoin]

Date Registered:    May 02, 2014, 07:21:28 PM

Took you this long to make a second account huh?

[The Bitcoin Society]

Hi all, sorry were late to the party.

First let me say, Seriouscoin you should be ashamed of yourself and your childish rude behavior especially talking about a mans child dying. You sir are a disgrace to the people of this forum.

Second, i just wanted to drop in and confirm that we have been, and are handling escrow for Cyrious Technologies and their miner sales.

To streamline the process as a result of a large influx in escrow requests we have made a semi pre-filled escrow agreement for you to fill out which can be found here:

http://www.thebitcoinsociety.org/BEACYR.pdf

Simply fill out the form and mail it to admin@thebitcoinsociety.org , we will e-mail you back the signed form with the payment address and amount where you can send the funds to.

Please do not write us inquiring about the Jackhammer miner, we are merely the escrow agent and do not have the information you are looking for. We are legally bound by an NDA that we cannot discuss anything that we saw, see, read, or hear in our dealings with Cyrious Technologies.

Thank you,

[Bicknellski]

Questions:

Why would you not use a reputable known escrow trusted in this forum?
Where are the FPGA chips being fabricated / bought from?
Who designed the FPGA chips?
Who is currently designing your boards?
Where will your boards be fabricated?
How can you account for the lower prices given that board costs run nearly that much as your sales price no matter the chips you use?
How will these units be cooled?

[cr4sh0verride]

Childish behaviour aside I think if this company is willing to accept Escrow
Then there would be no harm in engaging the most trustworthy members of this forums to complete those duties

There would be no reason not to do this unless their were ulterior motives
Especially when the Escrow that is offered through a site that I hazard a guess most people here have never heard of.. has only been registered for a few months and yet has archive links to 2012
The site is also poorly constructed with very little information, no legal documentation and no content

I said it before but I'll say it more succinctly now

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.. none of which has come to light and my guess is probably never will
Always happy to be proven wrong though

*edit* very pertinent questions from the post above as well*

[Bicknellski]

They should provide an identified and known escrow form this community anything less is worthy of ridicule and even then a proper escrow will resolve whether or not their claims are REAL or not before they would even take on this client. Spondoolies is a good example of how it should be done. Send out some working units to reputable people then start selling the product directly. It really begs the question why anyone comes here and gives this sort of presentation.

1. We will build X in the future and sell it at a really low price.
2. Trust us with this unknown escrow.

You don't get any passes in Bitcointalk even when you actually have a working product. No one is going to let anything slide especially when you are promising something that doesn't exist. See BFL Monarch for example.

[Syke]

Please do not write us inquiring about the Jackhammer miner, we are merely the escrow agent and do not have the information you are looking for. We are legally bound by an NDA that we cannot discuss anything that we saw, see, read, or hear in our dealings with Cyrious Technologies.

Who are you?

[dogie]

"Do not have the information"... "The information is under NDA"

[Syke]

Registrant Street: 19 California St
Registrant City: San Francisco

No, wait, you're based in downtown SF. Strange, I don't remember a building at 19 California St. Why don't you post a photo of your building?

5: I got a better one, why dont you go take a photo and show there is not a building at 19 California street in silicone valley your the one making aqusations

Don't take my word for it:

USPS Address Lookup

You entered:

19 CALIFORNIA ST
SAN FRANCISCO CA

The address you provided is not recognized by the US Postal Service as an address we serve. Mail sent to this address may be returned.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Questions:

1Why would you not use a reputable known escrow trusted in this forum?
2Where are the FPGA chips being fabricated / bought from?
3Who designed the FPGA chips?
4Who is currently designing your boards?
5Where will your boards be fabricated?
6How can you account for the lower prices given that board costs run nearly that much as your sales price no matter the chips you use?
7How will these units be cooled?

1: the "most reputable" escrows on this forum are crooks with nothing to lose but a forum reputation in which they can start over with
2: the FPGA's are atmel FPSLIC series
3: atmel
4: they were done in house
5: as with most major components they are manufactured in shenzhen china
6: lower cost is a result of better funds managment and more off the shelf components as well as higher production numbers
7: they have a picture of the cooling unit on the slideshow.

[cr4sh0verride]

1. That's a dodging of the question. To suggest that people with the most amount of trust on this forum have built up that trust that whole time
For the purpose of one day where there is an offer that's too good to refuse they can accept Escrow and run away with our money.. I'm sorry but no that's a poor excuse

2 + 3 + 4 = Ok what's the name of the lead engineer on the project. We should be able to see some of the details of that person. They should have some public presence on projects they've worked on before. You don't just pull people off the street for things like this

5. Where in China? What factory?

7. A stock picture of a cooling fan.. I think he was after a more in-depth answer instead of just pointing to a picture and saying LOOK!

[dogie]

What DCDC power converters did you use? I'm looking for model numbers. If you don't know, ask your technical guy - he will know because he would have spent weeks tearing his hair out over them.

[Starlightbreaker]

so how many idiots have fallen to this scam?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

[goldar]

Where are you located?

Finally a valid question. Are you asking me personally where am i at, or where is the company HQ?

Oh come on man...
U know, he is not asking where you are at.

[Bicknellski]

Questions:

1Why would you not use a reputable known escrow trusted in this forum?
2Where are the FPGA chips being fabricated / bought from?
3Who designed the FPGA chips?
4Who is currently designing your boards?
5Where will your boards be fabricated?
6How can you account for the lower prices given that board costs run nearly that much as your sales price no matter the chips you use?
7How will these units be cooled?

1: the "most reputable" escrows on this forum are crooks with nothing to lose but a forum reputation in which they can start over with
2: the FPGA's are atmel FPSLIC series
3: atmel
4: they were done in house
5: as with most major components they are manufactured in shenzhen china
6: lower cost is a result of better funds managment and more off the shelf components as well as higher production numbers
7: they have a picture of the cooling unit on the slideshow.

Ok you lost me there... at #1.

Good luck with that. I don't play with people simply trashing others reputations without any real discussion of who is and isn't reputable. Ignoring you and your "escrow".

Avoid this like the plague people. When you start trashing EVERYONE who is an escrow here in these forums then I suggest this guy doesn't understand what is happening here in Bitcointalk. He doesn't even name a single trustworthy escrow from this forum? Seriously? I guess the millions that are pushed back and forth monthly with little or no problems is not something he wants to admit? Seriously run don't walk away from this deal.

And if we turn that logic back on himself and this shady escrow he could just as easily be the crooks with nothing to lose but a pseudonym that currently has 0 reputation they both can and probably have numerous times started over with a variation on this scam.

[raskul]

may i just add the most obvious - to the mix;

$599 / 1.4TH/s
The profit margin from design to manufacture, will be at least MINUS (that's -)$500

i apologies if I have the need to make this lettering big, for the benefit of the OP, who clearly doesn't have a fucking clue.

[david123]

Usually, I don't post in topics like this. But this is the most obvious scam I've seen for some time
I just hope they don't find any "customers"..

[goldar]

I'm not sure what you expected when you got here..

There are plenty of people on these forums that have been through it all and around again
They are akin to all of the scams/dodgy dealings that go on around these parts of town

You only have to take a look at what a company like Spondoolies is doing and put all the following into perspective

1. You're offering a product that blows everything on the market currently out of the water.. not even by a small amount.. by a factor of almost 4/1. This would almost be the equivalent of an unknown CPU maker popping up selling a 64core 12GHZ processor.. Yet the information provided on the actual machine is sketchy at best..To achieve these sort of numbers you would need to be at 20nm manufacturing or below.. I mean AMD and NVidia aren't even there yet!

2. Just in the first 3 pages of posts your mannerism have come across and complete unprofessional. You're going to get sceptical people questioning your product and to retaliate already as you have not something a person in a company with this sort of technology would do

3. Transparency especially in Bitcoin is paramount to success. Every question you dodge is another tick in the sceptics check-list.

To be honest it doesn't even matter about all of this.. the fantastic claims of your product is the biggest red flag hurdle you will need to overcome
Prove your hardware works, post videos/screenshots of it working with time/date stamps, allow Escrow from Trusted forum members and send review units to Trusted forum members..

Until you can do this it doesn't matter where you're located.. how bad your spelling is ... I won't use the word scam I'm going to say you have an illegitimate product

Mr. Johnny, sir here is a legit request,, Plz respond to this and we all be good here.

[y_boonstra]

those heatsinks are not cappable of dissapating the ammount of heat the chips produce (200 W)

[peterepeat]

that heatsink would be lucky to move 5W

[kano]

Well ... if it's real, send me one, I'll evaluate it and find out why on earth it has to be USB3.0 and then post anything anyone wants to know about it.

What software are you using ...

It's not far away right? You're not asking for pre-order money months before they are going to be ready right?
You mentioned a prototype within the next 2 weeks - so no one will be waiting for long right?

However, I'd be surprised if it is real.
Prove me wrong

[s1gs3gv]

The Atmel FPSLIC devices ( http://www.atmel.com/products/other/field_programmable_gate_array/default.aspx ) are FPGAs, not ASICs. They are 5-50K gate, 25 mhs clock rate devices which come in 3.3 and 5 volt versions.

A 40K/25mhs Atmel FPGA retails @ Mouser for $26.25 in 144 quantity (http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=atmel+FPSLIC) , no doubt much cheaper by the thousands from Atmel.

FPGA devices are suitable for quick turnaround designs when the NRE associated with ASIC development is not available.

I have no clue  how many would be needed to implement a 1.4TH system, nor how much power the system would require but my guess is a LOT and more than a few hundred watts L)L

By comparison, FWIW, here are Spondoolies' public figures for their 'Rockerbox' ASIC in the SP30:
  Voltage                                      0.63 V
  Total Engines                              193
  Max frequency at TT corner           984 MHz
  Performance                               190 GHs
  Power                                        66 W
  Power/performance                      0.35 W/GHs


Perhaps Mr Walker can explain the discrepancy between the Atmel FPGA performance and their published CYRious system performance/power figures  ?

Or, alternatively, just fess up to an entertaining troll of trolls.

[novello]

I really don't like the way in which new companies are attacked by members of the forum, but in your case they are more than justified. Your facts and figures don't make any sense:

You say you have already got prototypes coming this week. Now even in a MPW wafer run, given the power dissipation of your chip -extrapolated from the power supply size you quoted - it must be about 20mm on a side. For that size of prototype in MPW/28nm you would be paying close on 500k$, to get maybe 25 chips, not to mention the cost of design and since you're not an existing large customer, you would have to go through a foundry's agent design centre, another 400k$ or so. As you don't have your own mask set, you need to buy other MPW wafers to get your chips at a current cost of about $16k each to get additional lots 25 untested chips which might yield 20, or $800k each, $1600 for 2 chips for your miner. To get your full mask set you'll have to spend another $1.5 million dollars, and that gets you on wafers worth of chips, maybe yielding 90 best case.

So the money you are asking for is nowhere near enough.

To add insult to already injuring my intelligence, you publish a picture of what looks like a VGA chipset cooler and expect any engineer to accept that this tiny device could cool a chip dissipating 170+ watts?

Do I need to go on here and embarass you further - I have about another page worth of technical stuff - or are you going to stop this nonsense?

[bit_wizard]

What about a prototype? Photos, technical specs, sample units, YouTube video?
I've played this game before, prove to me that I should spend my money on this company.
Please and thank you.

Sure thing bit wizard, It will be about a week and a half until a finished prototype is assembled, but for now you can view what pics there are through the link on the original post. They update that slideshow as they add more photos to their site. Tech specs are on the website as well. I am not sure what you mean by sample units but if you clarify i can work on that for you, and as for a youtube video they will do one better, as soon as the prototype is up and working full speed there will be live streaming on the website.

Also i dont know if you caught it in the original post but they will accept escrow too if you want to contact the escrow company the link is on the original post. I was told that they would be commenting on this thread but have not seen them yet.

Thanks for your reply. In my opinion a prototype should have came first before asking for pre order money.
I have viewed and read everything on this topic before making my comments, and most are still valid. The pics that are in the OP are a "renderful" but don't provide any proof in my eyes. No photos of the inside components besides a possible photoshoped chip, no factory photos, no team photos. The tech specs given are not accurate or complete compared to other companies. By sample units I meant by sending a working sample unit to me or a trusted member on the forum to write a review. You would be surprised how much that can prove.
A streaming video of the machine is a start, but that can easily be forged.

Cheers

[bclcjunkie]

pathetic scam attempt by lazy ass clowns that failed miserably... also stay away from the escrow website, it looks as shady as these scammers. if they want to prove they are real then they should take Kano's offer and send him a unit.

[s1gs3gv]

Do I need to go on here and embarass you further - I have about another page worth of technical stuff - or are you going to stop this nonsense?

JBW stated that they are using Atmel FPGA chips, Your comments apply to ASIC fabrication.
However, there is a clear discrepancy between FPGA performance and the claimed system performance/power figures

[novello]

There's no FPGA on the planet that could achieve more than 4GH/sec.

[s1gs3gv]

There's no FPGA on the planet that could achieve more than 4GH/sec.

Especially one that runs at 25MH/sec and has 40K gates total L)L

[Meech]

I admit were all drawn to the specs. but fantasy #'s are just fantasy for a small no name company.  The power consumption to hashrate is twice as efficient then any well known company.  Explain how this is possible.  I do believe in giving cheap/affordable hash power to the consumers are what a small company needs to stand out and beat out the larger competition but more info is needed for us to trust your claims. 

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

You trolling fools did get the part that the FPGA's are just the controller board not the actual hashing chips correct? Of course not, your just a bunch of backyard tinkerers who think they have engineering degrees.

As for my "attacks" on your forum's so called escrows, look at the caliber of people who lurk on this forum, i can count the number of respectable, honest, trustworthy people on this forum on one hand and not a one of them has anything to lose as they hide behind a computer and run a half assed business. The Bitcoin Society was able to put up cash in escrow with the companies legal counsel as a guarantee of service as well as provide legal documents showing that they have registered to legally conduct an escrow business.

If you want one of your oh so trustworthy escrows to escrow the deals. then get them to fork up the collateral or purchase insurance to back the deal, get them to incorporate as a legal corporate entity, get them to file with the US Treasury and IRS, get them to pretty much put their entire future on the line with the threat of full legal recourse including but not limited to forfeiture of all of their assets, your pathetic "forum" escrows handle a few hundred to a few thousand dollar deals in which the monthly income far exceeds what they would make to duck and run. hundreds of thousands of dollars is 20 years salary what they make being escrows to the people of this forum and well worth running off with. So until one of them pony's up, incorporates, registers, purchases a bond and insurance or surrenders collateral. This is the end of the discussion on your forums "oh so trustworthy" <---- (that was sarcasm) escrow people.

In the end, what all makes it worth it is when our customers from this forum include comments with their orders through the website reassuring us that the usual suspects trolling on this thread do nothing but that all day long and that the other half of this forum take everything they say with a grain of salt as the trolls have been ranting for so long about the same things with every thread that they have no credibility any more, and that we need not worry because most of them are already on automatic ignore by half the forum so nobody sees what they write anyways.

And now the best part, someone with REAL credibility, not just on this forum but in real life has come forth and pretty much offered to do my job for me in exchange for one of the prototypes when the company is done with them. So i am just going to kick my feet up now, scan through for legit questions and watch the orders continue to roll in despite all the idiots littering the thread. 47 units sold last night despite the website not being finished, despite the trolls, and despite the personal attacks on my daughter by a flaming homo. The management is happy, our customers are happy that someone finally stops trying to get rich selling overpriced hardware that will never ROI, soon someone else is going to be doing my job for me, and i am going to make my bonus.

Still worth it, especially in the end when all you trolls are sitting there with egg on your face while everyone else is hashing with an ROI.  

[david123]

With the way you answer, you really give the impression that you are a professional businessman. Thumbs up

[bit_wizard]

With the way you answer, you really give the impression that you are a professional businessman. Thumbs up

Bump.

[s1gs3gv]

You trolling fools did get the part that the FPGA's are just the controller board not the actual hashing chips correct? Of course not, your just a bunch of backyard tinkerers who think they have engineering degrees.

Charming … absolutely no doubt in my mind now …

Where did you say you got *your* PhD in computer science now ?

[Meech]

With the way you answer, you really give the impression that you are a professional businessman. Thumbs up

+1
Obviously he hasn't read the beatings on the forum of any new company promising the world until they have more info to share.

[Syke]

The Bitcoin Society was able to put up cash in escrow with the companies legal counsel as a guarantee of service as well as provide legal documents showing that they have registered to legally conduct an escrow business.

Speaking of legally conducting a business, where is your legal registration?

[s1gs3gv]

I wonder if Cyrious Software Inc. ( http://www.cyrious.com/ ) know anything about Cyrious Technologies ?

L)L

[Meech]

For the orders you have received, what percent are through the website compared to escrow at this time?

[novello]

You trolling fools did get the part that the FPGA's are just the controller board not the actual hashing chips correct? Of course not, your just a bunch of backyard tinkerers who think they have engineering degrees.

No, the problem is that some of us do have Degrees, Masters and PhD's, design chips for a living and can spot an amateur fraudster like you a mile away, did you really imagine you were going to get away with this rubbish? You didn't even try to get the technology description right let alone your device specifications.

It gave many of us a good laugh though. Have to thank you for that, try a lot harder next time.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Professionalism is not an acceptable business practice on this forum. When teaching a first grade class you bring crayons and colored pencils not algebra books and trigonometry. When weeding through the childish aggressive mentality of forum trolls, you bring a torch to burn the bridge they hide under not cupcakes and flowers.

I never claimed to have a PhD in computer science, they already had people for that. My sole job purpose is an independent contractor for web relations, my ability to effectively weed through the trolls or keep them pre-occupied in one location so that the rest of the business may be conducted in normal fashion is why i was hired. That and my contract just expired from another ASIC miner company as they began shipping Friday and my services were no longer needed.  

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

For the orders you have received, what percent are through the website compared to escrow at this time?

About 90% are through escrow at the moment is what i have been told. I dont have access to those systems so i can only go based off the reports when they are mailed out.

[Meech]

For the orders you have received, what percent are through the website compared to escrow at this time?

About 90% are through escrow at the moment is what i have been told. I dont have access to those systems so i can only go based off the reports when they are mailed out.

Thank you for your answer, are refunds available if you dont ship after July?  If so you may have another customer soon.

[dogie]

Professionalism is not an acceptable business practice on this forum. When teaching a first grade class you bring crayons and colored pencils not algebra books and trigonometry. When weeding through the childish aggressive mentality of forum trolls, you bring a torch to burn the bridge they hide under not cupcakes and flowers.

I never claimed to have a PhD in computer science, they already had people for that. My sole job purpose is an independent contractor for web relations, my ability to effectively weed through the trolls or keep them pre-occupied in one location so that the rest of the business may be conducted in normal fashion is why i was hired. That and my contract just expired from another ASIC miner company as they began shipping Friday and my services were no longer needed. 

Who was the previous company?

[Gator-hex]

You won't be able to dissipate 450W of heat in a tiny router sized box like this guys..



.. or with a heatsink and fan this size, WTF!  

[ChuckBuck]

You won't be able to dissipate 450W of heat in a tiny router sized box like this guys!



 

Stop trolling Gator!  You speak too much sense.  

Nobody likes a know it all.  

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

For the orders you have received, what percent are through the website compared to escrow at this time?

About 90% are through escrow at the moment is what i have been told. I dont have access to those systems so i can only go based off the reports when they are mailed out.

Thank you for your answer, are refunds available if you dont ship after July?  If so you may have another customer soon.

I have reviewed the escrow agreement from the bitcoin society and it has the final ship date as July 31st 2014, so if they do not ship by that day the escrow is automatically refunded by defult. I have an e-mail in to the bosses about refunds if you order directly through the website and should have an answer for you soon. Most of this stuff will be listed on the website this week i'm sure. Their website is still under development and wasnt officially going to launch until next friday, i just jumped the gun to prove to them i was worth the money so i can get a good review when my contract is up here.

[xjack]

You masterfully dodged the Melbourne question.  Please explain why BOTH the sales site and escrow site use the same registrar and DNS entries?

Seriously - you were too fucking lazy to use a different registrar and DNS for both the sales site and escrow site?  

But wait, there's MORE!!!  Both sites resolve to 208.131.151.181.  You were too fucking stupid to put the sites on different servers.


Domain Name:THEBITCOINSOCIETY.ORG
Domain ID: D170733291-LROR
Creation Date: 2014-01-20T21:06:28Z
Updated Date: 2014-01-20T21:39:30Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2019-01-20T21:06:28Z
Sponsoring Registrar:Melbourne IT, Ltd (R52-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 13
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited
Registrant ID:C139024500314215
Registrant Name:Bitcoin Society
Registrant Organization:Private Registration US
Registrant Street: PO Box 61359
Registrant City:Sunnyvale
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94088
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.5105952002
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:Email Masking Image@myprivateregistration.com
Admin ID:C139024500314216
Admin Name:Admin PrivateRegContact
Admin Organization:Private Reg US
Admin Street: PO Box 61359
Admin City:Sunnyvale
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:94088
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.5105952002
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:Email Masking Image@myprivateregistration.com
Tech ID:C139024500314218
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Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +61.386242300
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
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[cr4sh0verride]

He has dodged every single legitimate question that has been posed.
A moderator needs to lock this thread now and stop threads about this product being posted in this forum.

If anyone gives any money or BTC to this person, anyone relating to cyrminers/cyrtechnologies etc or thebitcoinsociety they will lose it
If there's is not enough evidence in this thread of that then I don't know what amount will

The OP will continue to try to lure unsuspecting victims that don't read through the entire thread and I just won't let it happen

Also if the OP has any shred of decency he will leave now and if he is serious about his product he will come back when he has demonstrable evidence of its existence.
If you need capital go start a Kickstater fund

[descarte]

1.6TH, 28nm that is so small and consumes so little power... unbelievable.

sorry, what you have is space science technology at that price. Good try, but the bitcoin community has matured beyond pre-order already.

What bitcoin needs now is stability, we don't want anymore scamming bad news in the press. Please retract your website or advertise only when you do really have the product. do the whole world a favor pleaseeeeee.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

You masterfully dodged the Melbourne question.  Please explain why BOTH the sales site and escrow site use the same registrar and DNS entries?

Seriously - you were too fucking lazy to use a different registrar and DNS for both the sales site and escrow site?  

But wait, there's MORE!!!  Both sites resolve to 208.131.151.181.  You were too fucking stupid to put the sites on different servers.


Domain Name:THEBITCOINSOCIETY.ORG
Domain ID: D170733291-LROR
Creation Date: 2014-01-20T21:06:28Z
Updated Date: 2014-01-20T21:39:30Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2019-01-20T21:06:28Z
Sponsoring Registrar:Melbourne IT, Ltd (R52-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 13
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited
Registrant ID:C139024500314215
Registrant Name:Bitcoin Society
Registrant Organization:Private Registration US
Registrant Street: PO Box 61359
Registrant City:Sunnyvale
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94088
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Registrant Phone:+1.5105952002
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Domain Name: cyrminers.com
Registry Domain ID: 1855245481_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
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I'm sorry, is it suppose to be shocking that 2 companies can use the single largest domain registrar and hosting companies on the planet? that would be like me being shocked that my neighbor and i both own Fords. 80% of all domains registered come from either Melbourne IT or GoDaddy, and over 60% of all managed paid hosting services come from hosting services incorporated which operates under dozens of different names AN hosting, Midphase, etc.

Quick everybody run, there are companies who repetitively use the most cost effective options for their web services. For that matter, STOP USING BITCOINTALK.ORG because they use private internet access which is the same VPN that 90% of the companies who pop up with scams on this forum. or as anybody who has accidentally stumbled across bitcoinforum.com's webpage quickly learns that at least half of the scams that show up on this forum are administered by the leadership of this form. Resolving to the same DNS is one thing, Resolving to the same IP means websites are hosting on the same server, same block, same node, same drives for that matter.

Now please get over yourselves and please, keep trolling, it has turned out to be better for business than i originally anticipated, as i have seen in many a customer comment that is forwarded to me after they order.

" thanks for hanging in there Johnny and answering my questions, dont let the trolls on bitcointalk get to you, they do it to everyone "

Your welcome.... My real name isnt Johnny though. Just a name i use as its my favorite drink.

" Those guys spend countless days harping about ROI to every manufacturer who posts what they are selling, then one finally takes care of us and they attack him, thanks for the deal and thank you for being one of the few who accepts escrow"

You too are welcome, but it wasnt me, i just handle web relations i have nothing to do with any development, sales, or anything beyond the web presence.

"Glad i found this before i invested in hashfast, They too have a board that can fit into a cigar box with a similar asic and power consumption, but they want twice the money, keep up the good work, and forget about the disbelievers on bitcoinforum "

They were forgotten about before they ever typed one letter, i even went so far as to give them their own home to shit talk in, but they are to stupid to use it. I bet their not potty trained yet either.

" A+ guys, and good job on having escrow in place, to be honest i wouldn't have ordered if there wasn't an escrow option. Keep feeding the trolls, your thread on bitcointalk has been good for some hard laughs this past day. "

I had nothing to do with the escrow, but i will surely keep feeding the trolls for you all. Feel free to feed them yourselves too, seems to be good for business.


So, in all actuality, i guess i might owe the trolls some profit sharing from my bonus, you guys have made my job a ton easier and gotten me almost 1/3 the way to my bonus in less than one day. Except the one who took a pop shot at my newborn daughter. you can still suck a bag of dicks. You get nothing.

[Biffa]

Quick everybody run, there are companies who repetitively use the most cost effective options for their web services. For that matter, STOP USING BITCOINTALK.ORG because they use private internet access which is the same VPN that 90% of the companies who pop up with scams on this forum. or as anybody who has accidentally stumbled across bitcoinforum.com's webpage quickly learns that at least half of the scams that show up on this forum are administered by the leadership of this form. Resolving to the same DNS is one thing, Resolving to the same IP means websites are hosting on the same server, same block, same node, same drives for that matter.

So, in all actuality, i guess i might owe the trolls some profit sharing from my bonus, you guys have made my job a ton easier and gotten me almost 1/3 the way to my bonus in less than one day. Except the one who took a pop shot at my newborn daughter. you can still suck a bag of dicks. You get nothing.

Icebreaker is that you again?

Seriously, if you detest it so much here why post here?

Actually I hope lots of people buy your stuff instead of from the companies who actually have product out there, means less competition for my mining dollar.

Keep it up Johnny.. you're doing a damn fine job.

[seriouscoin]

Now please get over yourselves and please, keep trolling, it has turned out to be better for business than i originally anticipated, as i have seen in many a customer comment that is forwarded to me after they order.


So, in all actuality, i guess i might owe the trolls some profit sharing from my bonus, you guys have made my job a ton easier and gotten me almost 1/3 the way to my bonus in less than one day. Except the one who took a pop shot at my newborn daughter. you can still suck a bag of dicks. You get nothing.

Hahaha.... you're either Inaba himself or trying to copy him.

Whatever you are, trash like you isnt allowed to reproduce. Your "daughter" will get torn off by a pitbull and live a horrible life. Hows that?

[Stevbenson]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

[seriouscoin]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Just imagine whatever cooling system you like because thats all there is, imagination.

[Zelek Uther]

The best way for a new company to gain credibility is to send out free review units to a few trusted forum members.  Even one or two would be enough.

For example, the newest legitimate company to launch was Spondoolies-Tech, this is how they did it:

Reviews by Bitcoin industry leaders and Bitcointalk community respected members
The SP10 samples are being shipped these days to following partial list of respected community members for the reviews:
•   Jeff Garzik
•   Gregory Maxwell
•   Ron Gross
•   dogie
•   ShadesOfMarble
•   MineForeman
•   Israeli Bitcoin Embassy

If you were to pick just two, I'd recommend dogie and MineForeman.  They both provide detailed and useful reviews.

Just so you understand: all new companies have to go under the hammer.  If they are legit, they weather the storm, and some of the most vocal and non-trusting people end up being their biggest supporter.  Check out the start of the Spondoolies thread - the very first forum member to post questions is RoadStress, check out his (rightly) skeptical tone:

Who bought your March units? We want to see live units from some forum members.

Also we want to see live demo of your units. Your movie contains only static images. Point a miner at Eligius and post the address and/or post a video showing the miner and the unit running. It only takes 1 min.

Edit: What payment methods do you accept? Only Bitcoin right?

Spondoolies proved themselves with review units, and a successful delivery of their first SP10 batch.  RoadStress ended up being a big Spondoolies supporter, and organised a Group Buy which sold at least $1.7 million of Spond hardware (386 SP30 units, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575499.0).

So relax, keep it professional, deliver miners, and your biggest "trolls" might well become your biggest customers.

On the other hand, if you are running a scam, then you won't last for more than a few weeks here.  We've seen it all before... really, we have.  

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Hi Stevbenson,

You are correct the heatsink / fan on their slideshow is NOT for the asics, it is for the control board. The picture makes it look even bigger than it really is, that thing is tiny, like barley a few inches tiny. If i remember correctly the sample heat-sinks for the ASIC boards will be in this week and will be added to the photo roll and on the updates on their blog. From the sketch-ups i have seen the cooling system is a large radiator and fans unit that lines almost the entire case with a few blades also exposed on the bottom of the case itself. I will see if i can get the 3d models for you and send them to you in a PM sometime early this week like Monday or Tuesday, they have tons of 3d renders of most every component but they were trying to stay away from posting them all and stick to actual pictures of components to avoid all the "ooooo look at a 3d render scam" propaganda.  

If there is anything else i can help you with please feel free to PM me, it seems to be the preferred method of communication of people with honest inquiry's and will save you from having to scroll through the 20 pages of blather i am sure this thread will fill up with in the next few days just to find the answer to your questions.

[seriouscoin]

The best way for a new company to gain credibility is to send out free review units to a few trusted forum members.  Even one or two would be enough.

For example, the newest legitimate company to launch was Spondoolies-Tech, this is how they did it:

Reviews by Bitcoin industry leaders and Bitcointalk community respected members
The SP10 samples are being shipped these days to following partial list of respected community members for the reviews:
•   Jeff Garzik
•   Gregory Maxwell
•   Ron Gross
•   dogie
•   ShadesOfMarble
•   MineForeman
•   Israeli Bitcoin Embassy

If you were to pick just two, I'd recommend dogie and MineForeman.  They both provide detailed and useful reviews.

Just so you understand: all new companies have to go under the hammer.  If they are legit, they weather the storm, and some of the most vocal and non-trusting people end up being their biggest supporter.  Check out the start of the Spondoolies thread - the very first forum member to post questions is RoadStress, check out his (rightly) skeptical tone:

Who bought your March units? We want to see live units from some forum members.

Also we want to see live demo of your units. Your movie contains only static images. Point a miner at Eligius and post the address and/or post a video showing the miner and the unit running. It only takes 1 min.

Edit: What payment methods do you accept? Only Bitcoin right?

Spondoolies proved themselves with review units, and a successful delivery of their first SP10 batch.  RoadStress ended up being a big Spondoolies supporter, and organised a Group Buy which sold at least $1.7 million of Spond hardware (386 SP30 units, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575499.0).

So relax, keep it professional, deliver miners, and your biggest "trolls" might well become your biggest customers.

On the other hand, if you are running a scam, then you won't last for more than a few weeks here.  We've seen it all before... really, we have.  

Terrible comparison, SPT comes with full technical specs, pics of a prototype and an demo video. Look at all their replies, they never doged a single questions, always answered respectfully without calling forum this forum that. Why? because they're legit.

These fckers are the worst scammers i've seen. Only idiots, and i mean completely retarded person would fall for it.

LOL at those fake comments from "customers" ....

[Meech]

+1   Yes a test miner to a Hero Member would be great for your business, and your bonus.... it's proven true in the past.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

The best way for a new company to gain credibility is to send out free review units to a few trusted forum members.  Even one or two would be enough.

For example, the newest legitimate company to launch was Spondoolies-Tech, this is how they did it:

Reviews by Bitcoin industry leaders and Bitcointalk community respected members
The SP10 samples are being shipped these days to following partial list of respected community members for the reviews:
•   Jeff Garzik
•   Gregory Maxwell
•   Ron Gross
•   dogie
•   ShadesOfMarble
•   MineForeman
•   Israeli Bitcoin Embassy

If you were to pick just two, I'd recommend dogie and MineForeman.  They both provide detailed and useful reviews.

Just so you understand: all new companies have to go under the hammer.  If they are legit, they weather the storm, and some of the most vocal and non-trusting people end up being their biggest supporter.  Check out the start of the Spondoolies thread - the very first forum member to post questions is RoadStress, check out his (rightly) skeptical tone:

Who bought your March units? We want to see live units from some forum members.

Also we want to see live demo of your units. Your movie contains only static images. Point a miner at Eligius and post the address and/or post a video showing the miner and the unit running. It only takes 1 min.

Edit: What payment methods do you accept? Only Bitcoin right?

Spondoolies proved themselves with review units, and a successful delivery of their first SP10 batch.  RoadStress ended up being a big Spondoolies supporter, and organised a Group Buy which sold at least $1.7 million of Spond hardware (386 SP30 units, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575499.0).

So relax, keep it professional, deliver miners, and your biggest "trolls" might well become your biggest customers.

On the other hand, if you are running a scam, then you won't last for more than a few weeks here.  We've seen it all before... really, we have.  

Hey, thanks Zelek, and your 10 million percent right on the money. I have already got approval to get a prototype unit sent to Dogie and the management will be working with him this week to make that happen, I just wasnt blasting that all over the thread because the trolling has proven to be rather good for business so i wanted to let it ride out for a while longer.

As one of our customers put it, "Those who have the bitcoin, buy, those who dont trust it but have the bitcoin, use the escrow service, Those who are too broke to order one anyways, Troll because its the only way they can be active in the bitcoin community. Look on the bright side, it keeps your thread at the top of the list most all day long without you having to bump it so legit customers can find it easily."

[seriouscoin]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Hi Stevbenson,
..........
From the sketch-ups i have seen the cooling system is a large radiator and fans unit that lines almost the entire case with a few blades also exposed on the bottom of the case itself.  

Sure look like it  
HAHAH idiot did you forget your pic?

[Stevbenson]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Hi Stevbenson,

You are correct the heatsink / fan on their slideshow is NOT for the asics, it is for the control board. The picture makes it look even bigger than it really is, that thing is tiny, like barley a few inches tiny. If i remember correctly the sample heat-sinks for the ASIC boards will be in this week and will be added to the photo roll and on the updates on their blog. From the sketch-ups i have seen the cooling system is a large radiator and fans unit that lines almost the entire case with a few blades also exposed on the bottom of the case itself. I will see if i can get the 3d models for you and send them to you in a PM sometime early this week like Monday or Tuesday, they have tons of 3d renders of most every component but they were trying to stay away from posting them all and stick to actual pictures of components to avoid all the "ooooo look at a 3d render scam" propaganda.  

If there is anything else i can help you with please feel free to PM me, it seems to be the preferred method of communication of people with honest inquiry's and will save you from having to scroll through the 20 pages of blather i am sure this thread will fill up with in the next few days just to find the answer to your questions.

Thankyou for your reply, I will prefer to ask questions in the thread in case othershave the same questions.

I think cooling your asics will be the toughest part for your design, when you say a "large radiator with blades" I get the picture the of metal blades being used as the heat conductors to the radiator? Indicating that is is not liquid cooled.

Is this right? No liquid cooling?

[s1gs3gv]

# traceroute cyrminers.com

9  ae2.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net (64.125.27.81)  37.289 ms  19.540 ms  14.926 ms
10  ae3.cr2.iah1.us.above.net (64.125.21.138)  27.009 ms  21.761 ms  27.270 ms
11  ae2.cr2.lax112.us.above.net (64.125.25.53)  54.656 ms  50.494 ms  62.352 ms
12  ae2.mpr1.slc1.us.above.net (64.125.30.137)  67.995 ms  66.296 ms  71.926 ms
13  208.184.34.150.ipyx-068416-003-zyo.above.net (208.184.34.150)  77.265 ms  71.894 ms  76.989 ms
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16  slmp-550-119.slc.westdc.net (208.131.151.181)  70.863 ms  72.805 ms  74.898 ms

# traceroute thebitcoinsociety.org

9  ae2.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net (64.125.27.81)  13.144 ms  18.537 ms  16.010 ms
10  ae3.cr2.iah1.us.above.net (64.125.21.138)  23.264 ms  45.224 ms  26.738 ms
11  ae2.cr2.lax112.us.above.net (64.125.25.53)  56.774 ms  51.936 ms  53.443 ms
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13  208.184.34.150.ipyx-068416-003-zyo.above.net (208.184.34.150)  76.620 ms  69.764 ms  68.296 ms
14  206.130.126.26.west-datacenter.net (206.130.126.26)  77.791 ms  67.828 ms  70.489 ms
15  206.130.126.69.west-datacenter.net (206.130.126.69)  73.277 ms  68.798 ms  71.476 ms
16  slmp-550-119.slc.westdc.net (208.131.151.181)  68.952 ms  72.890 ms  71.178 ms

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Hi Stevbenson,

You are correct the heatsink / fan on their slideshow is NOT for the asics, it is for the control board. The picture makes it look even bigger than it really is, that thing is tiny, like barley a few inches tiny. If i remember correctly the sample heat-sinks for the ASIC boards will be in this week and will be added to the photo roll and on the updates on their blog. From the sketch-ups i have seen the cooling system is a large radiator and fans unit that lines almost the entire case with a few blades also exposed on the bottom of the case itself. I will see if i can get the 3d models for you and send them to you in a PM sometime early this week like Monday or Tuesday, they have tons of 3d renders of most every component but they were trying to stay away from posting them all and stick to actual pictures of components to avoid all the "ooooo look at a 3d render scam" propaganda.  

If there is anything else i can help you with please feel free to PM me, it seems to be the preferred method of communication of people with honest inquiry's and will save you from having to scroll through the 20 pages of blather i am sure this thread will fill up with in the next few days just to find the answer to your questions.

Thankyou for your reply, I will prefer to ask questions in the thread in case othershave the same questions.

I think cooling your asics will be the toughest part for your design, when you say a "large radiator with blades" I get the picture the of metal blades being used as the heat conductors to the radiator? Indicating that is is not liquid cooled.

Is this right? No liquid cooling?

Correct, at this time their thermal testing algorithms do not show the need for liquid cooling, that is not to say that when the prototype heat-sinks arrive and are tested with a working unit that the design might not change to incorporate liquid cooling.

You are also correct that cooling was one of the biggest engineering obsticles in such a high power but small size unit, that and powering the unit itself.

[seriouscoin]

BOOM, your scammy thread got moved .

How do you like that huh piece of shit?

[cr4sh0verride]

Please stop it.

You're only making the situation worse

You noticed how he only responds to comments that are either direct insults or questions that don't give away the illegitimacy of it.
You're making him the victim which indirectly gives legitimacy to his claims

The time frames he has provided will be the time frame of it's demise
I and every other honest person on this forum can only hope they read through the thread and make a very easy rational decision on it

Also if anyone else finds this doing the rounds in other places link them back here as well

BOOM, your scammy thread got moved .

How do you like that huh piece of shit?

[cr4sh0verride]

This just links back to a common Web Hosting service

http://www.westhost.com/datacenter.html

No doubt the argument will be the likelihood of having two companies using the same web hosting not being outside the realm of possibility
Which is true but is circumstantial evidence..

All we need is demonstrable evidence this product exists and meets the claims.. that's it
I take it the OP understands what the word demonstrable means as well?

To quote Judge Judy.. “If it doesn't make sense, it's usually not true.”

# traceroute cyrminers.com

9  ae2.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net (64.125.27.81)  37.289 ms  19.540 ms  14.926 ms
10  ae3.cr2.iah1.us.above.net (64.125.21.138)  27.009 ms  21.761 ms  27.270 ms
11  ae2.cr2.lax112.us.above.net (64.125.25.53)  54.656 ms  50.494 ms  62.352 ms
12  ae2.mpr1.slc1.us.above.net (64.125.30.137)  67.995 ms  66.296 ms  71.926 ms
13  208.184.34.150.ipyx-068416-003-zyo.above.net (208.184.34.150)  77.265 ms  71.894 ms  76.989 ms
14  206.130.126.26.west-datacenter.net (206.130.126.26)  72.716 ms  71.686 ms  68.447 ms
15  206.130.126.69.west-datacenter.net (206.130.126.69)  68.799 ms  77.778 ms  69.060 ms
16  slmp-550-119.slc.westdc.net (208.131.151.181)  70.863 ms  72.805 ms  74.898 ms

# traceroute thebitcoinsociety.org

9  ae2.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net (64.125.27.81)  13.144 ms  18.537 ms  16.010 ms
10  ae3.cr2.iah1.us.above.net (64.125.21.138)  23.264 ms  45.224 ms  26.738 ms
11  ae2.cr2.lax112.us.above.net (64.125.25.53)  56.774 ms  51.936 ms  53.443 ms
12  ae2.mpr1.slc1.us.above.net (64.125.30.137)  70.916 ms  70.706 ms  67.170 ms
13  208.184.34.150.ipyx-068416-003-zyo.above.net (208.184.34.150)  76.620 ms  69.764 ms  68.296 ms
14  206.130.126.26.west-datacenter.net (206.130.126.26)  77.791 ms  67.828 ms  70.489 ms
15  206.130.126.69.west-datacenter.net (206.130.126.69)  73.277 ms  68.798 ms  71.476 ms
16  slmp-550-119.slc.westdc.net (208.131.151.181)  68.952 ms  72.890 ms  71.178 ms

[maxman190]

LOL I just had to fucking post here. This scam is just too hilarious. The specs on the "Jackhammer" is 2 x CYR "DOZER" chips that runs 700GH each, ROFL. I'm new to ASIC hardware, but I sure as hell know that there is no single chip that can run 700GH. Also, "Size: 6.25" wide by 13" long by 3" high"... LOL! It's smaller than an antminer s1! Yet, somehow the sketch of the Jackhammer is nowhere near those dimensions besides it being 3" high. I also like the fact how OP thinks posting fake pics would erase everyone's doubts. Post video of hardware and hashing rates, otherwise GTFO.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

LOL I just had to fucking post here. This scam is just too hilarious. The specs on the "Jackhammer" is 2 x CYR "DOZER" chips that runs 700GH each, ROFL. I'm new to ASIC hardware, but I sure as hell know that there is no single chip that can run 700GH. Also, "Size: 6.25" wide by 13" long by 3" high"... LOL! It's smaller than an antminer s1! Yet, somehow the sketch of the Jackhammer is nowhere near those dimensions besides it being 3" high. I also like the fact how OP thinks posting fake pics would erase everyone's doubts. Post video of hardware and hashing rates, otherwise GTFO.

Umm, Hashfast has chips doing over 800 there mate, and video will be coming soon. Also i remember a time not but 2 months ago when everyone was screaming that an 11 GH/s usb stick was IMPOSSIBLE, yet now i myself have bought over 30 of them in the past month. Come back in a few weeks and remind me of this post please so i can make a special video personalized just for you but then i want a public apology. i think that sounds like a VERY fair deal as you really have nothing to lose but a few minutes of time in a few weeks.

[maxman190]

LOL I just had to fucking post here. This scam is just too hilarious. The specs on the "Jackhammer" is 2 x CYR "DOZER" chips that runs 700GH each, ROFL. I'm new to ASIC hardware, but I sure as hell know that there is no single chip that can run 700GH. Also, "Size: 6.25" wide by 13" long by 3" high"... LOL! It's smaller than an antminer s1! Yet, somehow the sketch of the Jackhammer is nowhere near those dimensions besides it being 3" high. I also like the fact how OP thinks posting fake pics would erase everyone's doubts. Post video of hardware and hashing rates, otherwise GTFO.

Umm, Hashfast has chips doing over 800 there mate, and video will be coming soon. Also i remember a time not but 2 months ago when everyone was screaming that an 11 GH/s usb stick was IMPOSSIBLE, yet now i myself have bought over 30 of them in the past month. Come back in a few weeks and remind me of this post please so i can make a special video personalized just for you but then i want a public apology. i think that sounds like a VERY fair deal as you really have nothing to lose but a few minutes of time in a few weeks.

Lol, when did I say it was impossible? 2 months ago, it would probably of been impossible at that current time because there were none out. I have no doubt there will be higher hashrate in the future, but I'm talking about right NOW. I just checked hashfast and there are 800GH chips of 4 dies, BUT! It's .65 watt per GH, 800x.65 = 520 watts. You're claiming that your "Jackhammer" does 1.4THs with only 450w power which would make it around .31 watt per GH.

Also, the hashfast is 800GHs PER board, putting on a heatsink would easily make it 3" high already, yet somehow you're claiming to be able to fit 1.4THs in a small form factor? Get real.

[Stevbenson]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Hi Stevbenson,

You are correct the heatsink / fan on their slideshow is NOT for the asics, it is for the control board. The picture makes it look even bigger than it really is, that thing is tiny, like barley a few inches tiny. If i remember correctly the sample heat-sinks for the ASIC boards will be in this week and will be added to the photo roll and on the updates on their blog. From the sketch-ups i have seen the cooling system is a large radiator and fans unit that lines almost the entire case with a few blades also exposed on the bottom of the case itself. I will see if i can get the 3d models for you and send them to you in a PM sometime early this week like Monday or Tuesday, they have tons of 3d renders of most every component but they were trying to stay away from posting them all and stick to actual pictures of components to avoid all the "ooooo look at a 3d render scam" propaganda.  

If there is anything else i can help you with please feel free to PM me, it seems to be the preferred method of communication of people with honest inquiry's and will save you from having to scroll through the 20 pages of blather i am sure this thread will fill up with in the next few days just to find the answer to your questions.

Thankyou for your reply, I will prefer to ask questions in the thread in case othershave the same questions.

I think cooling your asics will be the toughest part for your design, when you say a "large radiator with blades" I get the picture the of metal blades being used as the heat conductors to the radiator? Indicating that is is not liquid cooled.

Is this right? No liquid cooling?

Correct, at this time their thermal testing algorithms do not show the need for liquid cooling, that is not to say that when the prototype heat-sinks arrive and are tested with a working unit that the design might not change to incorporate liquid cooling.

You are also correct that cooling was one of the biggest engineering obsticles in such a high power but small size unit, that and powering the unit itself.

I believe you that your simulations don't predict the need for liquid cooling but I would be perhaps questioning some of the assumptions in your model.

It seems to me that when I look at other ASIC miners out there it's a pretty simple design trait that determines weather it needs liquid cooling or not. This is the number of ASICs.

For example, look at the Bitmain/Spondoolies products they consist of hundreds of small ASICs and thus can get away with heatsinks and air cooling as the heat is spread out over the whole board. If you look at designs where one or two larger ASICs are used such as Cointerra, Hashfast ect these requied water cooling as the heat density is much greater in these designs.

TBH it looks like your design will probably need water cooling, I get that your chips are more efficiect then say cointerra/hashfast but we can still compare, I will use the cointerra box as an example as I know the specs of the top of my head. It uses 4 ASIC @ 2000W for 1.6Th/s lets sat the ASICS use ~70% of the energy this means each chip uses 350W, requires liquid cooling. Now your machine has 2 ASIC @ 450 for 1.4Th/s making the same assumptions you have 160W per chip...

Only half the power density of the cointerra chip... Interestingly the cointerra design was ment to use less energy than it does by a pretty big margin and they still designed it with liquid cooling originally.

Another design that was ment to be low power and not need water cooling is the fabled BFL 'Monarch', who knows what the specs will be when they finally release it but this suffered from the same design flaw as your machine. Very small case, and only two ASICs ment to use 350W for 6000Gh/s same assumptions as above means ~120W per chip (even less than yours) and they have since found that this needs water cooling on the ASICs.
 
I think not designing liquid cooling for the get go is a big mistake... Just like it was for BFL.

If your design does need liquid cooling this will add a big expense for you in terms of cooling systems and larger cases. And possibly delay your product significantly, tbh this is my major concern.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Hi Stevbenson,

You are correct the heatsink / fan on their slideshow is NOT for the asics, it is for the control board. The picture makes it look even bigger than it really is, that thing is tiny, like barley a few inches tiny. If i remember correctly the sample heat-sinks for the ASIC boards will be in this week and will be added to the photo roll and on the updates on their blog. From the sketch-ups i have seen the cooling system is a large radiator and fans unit that lines almost the entire case with a few blades also exposed on the bottom of the case itself. I will see if i can get the 3d models for you and send them to you in a PM sometime early this week like Monday or Tuesday, they have tons of 3d renders of most every component but they were trying to stay away from posting them all and stick to actual pictures of components to avoid all the "ooooo look at a 3d render scam" propaganda.  

If there is anything else i can help you with please feel free to PM me, it seems to be the preferred method of communication of people with honest inquiry's and will save you from having to scroll through the 20 pages of blather i am sure this thread will fill up with in the next few days just to find the answer to your questions.

Thankyou for your reply, I will prefer to ask questions in the thread in case othershave the same questions.

I think cooling your asics will be the toughest part for your design, when you say a "large radiator with blades" I get the picture the of metal blades being used as the heat conductors to the radiator? Indicating that is is not liquid cooled.

Is this right? No liquid cooling?

Correct, at this time their thermal testing algorithms do not show the need for liquid cooling, that is not to say that when the prototype heat-sinks arrive and are tested with a working unit that the design might not change to incorporate liquid cooling.

You are also correct that cooling was one of the biggest engineering obsticles in such a high power but small size unit, that and powering the unit itself.

I believe you that your simulations don't predict the need for liquid cooling but I would be perhaps questioning some of the assumptions in your model.

It seems to me that when I look at other ASIC miners out there it's a pretty simple design trait that determines weather it needs liquid cooling or not. This is the number of ASICs.

For example, look at the Bitmain/Spondoolies products they consist of hundreds of small ASICs and thus can get away with heatsinks and air cooling as the heat is spread out over the whole board. If you look at designs where one or two larger ASICs are used such as Cointerra, Hashfast ect these requied water cooling as the heat density is much greater in these designs.

TBH it looks like your design will probably need water cooling, I get that your chips are more efficiect then say cointerra/hashfast but we can still compare, I will use the cointerra box as an example as I know the specs of the top of my head. It uses 4 ASIC @ 2000W for 1.6Th/s lets sat the ASICS use ~70% of the energy this means each chip uses 350W, requires liquid cooling. Now your machine has 2 ASIC @ 450 for 1.4Th/s making the same assumptions you have 160W per chip...

Only half the power density of the cointerra chip... Interestingly the cointerra design was ment to use less energy than it does by a pretty big margin and they still designed it with liquid cooling originally.

Another design that was ment to be low power and not need water cooling is the fabled BFL 'Monarch', who knows what the specs will be when they finally release it but this suffered from the same design flaw as your machine. Very small case, and only two ASICs ment to use 350W for 6000Gh/s same assumptions as above means ~120W per chip (even less than yours) and they have since found that this needs water cooling on the ASICs.
 
I think not designing liquid cooling for the get go is a big mistake... Just like it was for BFL.

If your design does need liquid cooling this will add a big expense for you in terms of cooling systems and larger cases. And possibly delay your product significantly, tbh this is my major concern.

A valid concern, $599 is only the introductory type price. normal production units will be $899, Water cooling could very well be needed, but dealing in such high volumes cost is not much of a concern for any component as CYR has contracts which bind them to a very large production number which brings their cost down a drastic amount on almost everything. Its like HP and e-machines (gateway) HP computers have a higher cost even though they are a large brand due to volumes per run. E-machines has huge contracts with wal-mart, woolworth and several other big box stores and produces 4 times the units as HP does with only a few models. So e-machines have a lower cost.

If delivery date and refund are your concerns then contact The Bitcoin Society to get clarity on the terms of the escrow agreement. It seems almost everyone who has ordered thus far used escrow with the exception of a select few.

[xjack]

I'm sorry, is it suppose to be shocking that 2 companies can use the single largest domain registrar and hosting companies on the planet? that would be like me being shocked that my neighbor and i both own Fords. 80% of all domains registered come from either Melbourne IT or GoDaddy, and over 60% of all managed paid hosting services come from hosting services incorporated which operates under dozens of different names AN hosting, Midphase, etc.

Quick everybody run, there are companies who repetitively use the most cost effective options for their web services. For that matter, STOP USING BITCOINTALK.ORG because they use private internet access which is the same VPN that 90% of the companies who pop up with scams on this forum. or as anybody who has accidentally stumbled across bitcoinforum.com's webpage quickly learns that at least half of the scams that show up on this forum are administered by the leadership of this form. Resolving to the same DNS is one thing, Resolving to the same IP means websites are hosting on the same server, same block, same node, same drives for that matter.

Your domain reg argument is wrong.  Cite a source.  GoDaddy owns over 30% of the market, they aren't part of this discussion.  Melbourne retains far less than 10%.  

Hosting Services inc operates under 7 names, not a dozen.  As for bitcointalk and VPN, as well as scams - you have no proof of administrators facilitating more than half of the scams.

The odds are tiny, you're just spewing ambiguous statements.  Anyway, I'm done getting reverse trolled.

Ignoring this thread, if you actually deliver a spec miner, I'll apologize.

Until then, you're the one who can go suck a bag of dicks.

[Stevbenson]

What is the cooling system for the ASIC's? There is a picture of a small heat sink/fan on your website but surely this is not for the ASIC?

Hi Stevbenson,

You are correct the heatsink / fan on their slideshow is NOT for the asics, it is for the control board. The picture makes it look even bigger than it really is, that thing is tiny, like barley a few inches tiny. If i remember correctly the sample heat-sinks for the ASIC boards will be in this week and will be added to the photo roll and on the updates on their blog. From the sketch-ups i have seen the cooling system is a large radiator and fans unit that lines almost the entire case with a few blades also exposed on the bottom of the case itself. I will see if i can get the 3d models for you and send them to you in a PM sometime early this week like Monday or Tuesday, they have tons of 3d renders of most every component but they were trying to stay away from posting them all and stick to actual pictures of components to avoid all the "ooooo look at a 3d render scam" propaganda.  

If there is anything else i can help you with please feel free to PM me, it seems to be the preferred method of communication of people with honest inquiry's and will save you from having to scroll through the 20 pages of blather i am sure this thread will fill up with in the next few days just to find the answer to your questions.

Thankyou for your reply, I will prefer to ask questions in the thread in case othershave the same questions.

I think cooling your asics will be the toughest part for your design, when you say a "large radiator with blades" I get the picture the of metal blades being used as the heat conductors to the radiator? Indicating that is is not liquid cooled.

Is this right? No liquid cooling?

Correct, at this time their thermal testing algorithms do not show the need for liquid cooling, that is not to say that when the prototype heat-sinks arrive and are tested with a working unit that the design might not change to incorporate liquid cooling.

You are also correct that cooling was one of the biggest engineering obsticles in such a high power but small size unit, that and powering the unit itself.

I believe you that your simulations don't predict the need for liquid cooling but I would be perhaps questioning some of the assumptions in your model.

It seems to me that when I look at other ASIC miners out there it's a pretty simple design trait that determines weather it needs liquid cooling or not. This is the number of ASICs.

For example, look at the Bitmain/Spondoolies products they consist of hundreds of small ASICs and thus can get away with heatsinks and air cooling as the heat is spread out over the whole board. If you look at designs where one or two larger ASICs are used such as Cointerra, Hashfast ect these requied water cooling as the heat density is much greater in these designs.

TBH it looks like your design will probably need water cooling, I get that your chips are more efficiect then say cointerra/hashfast but we can still compare, I will use the cointerra box as an example as I know the specs of the top of my head. It uses 4 ASIC @ 2000W for 1.6Th/s lets sat the ASICS use ~70% of the energy this means each chip uses 350W, requires liquid cooling. Now your machine has 2 ASIC @ 450 for 1.4Th/s making the same assumptions you have 160W per chip...

Only half the power density of the cointerra chip... Interestingly the cointerra design was ment to use less energy than it does by a pretty big margin and they still designed it with liquid cooling originally.

Another design that was ment to be low power and not need water cooling is the fabled BFL 'Monarch', who knows what the specs will be when they finally release it but this suffered from the same design flaw as your machine. Very small case, and only two ASICs ment to use 350W for 6000Gh/s same assumptions as above means ~120W per chip (even less than yours) and they have since found that this needs water cooling on the ASICs.
 
I think not designing liquid cooling for the get go is a big mistake... Just like it was for BFL.

If your design does need liquid cooling this will add a big expense for you in terms of cooling systems and larger cases. And possibly delay your product significantly, tbh this is my major concern.

A valid concern, $599 is only the introductory type price. normal production units will be $899, Water cooling could very well be needed, but dealing in such high volumes cost is not much of a concern for any component as CYR has contracts which bind them to a very large production number which brings their cost down a drastic amount on almost everything. Its like HP and e-machines (gateway) HP computers have a higher cost even though they are a large brand due to volumes per run. E-machines has huge contracts with wal-mart, woolworth and several other big box stores and produces 4 times the units as HP does with only a few models. So e-machines have a lower cost.

If delivery date and refund are your concerns then contact The Bitcoin Society to get clarity on the terms of the escrow agreement. It seems almost everyone who has ordered thus far used escrow with the exception of a select few.

I am glad you agree it is a valid concern.

Email sent to 'The Bitcoin Society' I await their reply.

I must say though I don't really see any difference between giving you my money and giving them my money. The whole point of escrow is to use a trusted third party. I currently have no trust in 'The Bitcoin Society' for a few reasons.

-I have never heard of them before.
-They give no information as to who they are on their website or any of their posting here.
-Their website has only been active it seems since this year...only two posts in their blog...very sparse website

TBH it could be a one man operation... I mean I could make a website with that amount of content in my spare time since January...

Why should I trust them with my money more than you?

[armin22]

wanna see where this goes

[ChuckBuck]

wanna see where this goes

Me too, but only for comic relief. 

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

I am glad you agree it is a valid concern.

Email sent to 'The Bitcoin Society' I await their reply.

I must say though I don't really see any difference between giving you my money and giving them my money. The whole point of escrow is to use a trusted third party. I currently have no trust in 'The Bitcoin Society' for a few reasons.

-I have never heard of them before.
-They give no information as to who they are on their website or any of their posting here.
-Their website has only been active it seems since this year...only two posts in their blog...very sparse website

TBH it could be a one man operation... I mean I could make a website with that amount of content in my spare time since January...

Why should I trust them with my money more than you?

I cannot really answer that question for you Stevbenson, i am not asking you to trust "me" with your money, and although i had heard of the bitcoin society before, i have only used them as an escrow once so i dont have a ton of experience with them. I wish i had a better answer for you, but in all fairness that question is kind of like a loaded gun. I can speak on behalf of CYR, i am there at least 3 times a week and know most everyone there but I have only been told that The Bitcoin Society is handling escrow and do not know much more about them than my own 1 time personal experience. So i dont feel that i can rightfully "promote" their services. Although this is a second account which will be disposed of when my contract is up i still cannot blow smoke about a company i dont know much about. So the best i can really offer is that i used them one time, and things went ok.

Sorry i couldnt offer more

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

I have been asked to issue a notice to customers until the web design team gets back into the office on Monday and updates the website. All orders placed through the website are automatically canceled if they are not funded or paid for within 60 minutes of the time the order is created. As there are often several "testing it out" orders with any hardware company and the web interface runs bitcoin-d in the background and generates a new address for each order, to avoid generating multiple addresses which are never used the backed cancels non funded orders after 1 hour and recycles the address after 72 hours. If you wait more than one hour to send payment you will be required to place a new order through the system

[Meech]

I have been asked to issue a notice to customers until the web design team gets back into the office on Monday and updates the website. All orders placed through the website are automatically canceled if they are not funded or paid for within 60 minutes of the time the order is created. As there are often several "testing it out" orders with any hardware company and the web interface runs bitcoin-d in the background and generates a new address for each order, to avoid generating multiple addresses which are never used the backed cancels non funded orders after 1 hour and recycles the address after 72 hours. If you wait more than one hour to send payment you will be required to place a new order through the system

That's understandable had the same issue at another new "established" site but was acceptable because they were quick to refund my btc and kept  in contact through email.  Anyone who has ordered, any info on their customer service.  I'm closing my eyes and clicking my heels three times hoping for the best. 

[Meech]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and BFG. Their website is very premature and is not officially launching until next this coming Friday so the bulk of information is still not published. I pushed to start web relations early with the stance that a good share of customers dont care how fancy the website looks for a week while the developers finish. Which proved right as they have received now over 100 orders between escrow orders and direct web orders.

The drivers will be made available long before shipping begins, they operate like most other usb miners where you can connect several to a usb 3.0 hub and each is assigned a COM port.

The driver repository will be made available to developers who are developing software's which do not operate BFG or CG in the background, Much like most new hardware platforms i dont think it will be very long after shipping that drivers are made compatible for most every software host program.

The choice to go with USB in place of Ethernet was for ease of use, you can ask Dogie, 80% of the issues he helps people with in setup are people who cannot get their routers, modems or network switches configured to work with their hardware. As where USB is rather plug and play.

Step one: install driver
Step two: plug in hardware
Step three: start software and run hardware.

The one thing that is 100% for certain is that it will HAVE TO BE A USB 3.0 port or hub as every early simulated test shows a high % of share loss on 2.0 specs. it was explained to me a little better in a more technical fashion but all i really remembered was that it has to be 3.0 because 2.0 will not work.

[Meech]

Thanks, awaiting more info on refund policy if any.  Hopefully early next week.

[cr4sh0verride]

A quick Google search of your product shows that the only reference to your product have been in this forum.
There are no other reference anywhere on the Internet before this date

https://www.google.com.au/#q=%22CYR+Jackhammer%22

So what you mean to tell us is that since your initial post of May 2nd.. There have been 100 people from this forum that have paid actual money or BTC for this device in lieu of the copious amounts of unanswered legitimate questions posed?

And to contrast those numbers against reputable group buy here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575499.0 which..

a.) Is completely transparent in regards to all it's transactions
b.) Has legitimate information and working prototypes of it's hardware
c.) has support of the majority of forum members

Which ran from April 18th to May 4th and got 386 parties to purchase their product
If you Google Spondoolies they have references all over the Internet and not just in these forums

Like I said for the sake of humanity itself now stop this.. Leave and come back when you have working prototypes
You're digging your own grave

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Thanks, awaiting more info on refund policy if any.  Hopefully early next week.

I will make sure and keep you in the loop as soon as i get clarification from management. I got clarification from The Bitcoin Society on their Escrow Policy, By defult if miners do not ship my July 31st then your BTC is automatically returned, If at any time after your order you request a refund before shipping, you can be refunded your coins lesser the 1% escrow fee ( a small price to pay for the added security of escrow either way )

As for direct orders through the website, i am not 100% for sure yet on how they will handle refunds so i do not want to speculate.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

A quick Google search of your product shows that the only reference to your product have been in this forum.
There are no other reference anywhere on the Internet before this date

https://www.google.com.au/#q=%22CYR+Jackhammer%22

So what you mean to tell us is that since your initial post of May 2nd.. There have been 100 people from this forum that have paid actual money or BTC for this device in lieu of the copious amounts of unanswered legitimate questions posed?

And to contrast those numbers against reputable group buy here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575499.0 which..

a.) Is completely transparent in regards to all it's transactions
b.) Has legitimate information and working prototypes of it's hardware
c.) has support of the majority of forum members

Which ran from April 18th to May 4th and got 386 parties to purchase their product
If you Google Spondoolies they have references all over the Internet and not just in these forums

Like I said for the sake of humanity itself now stop this.. Leave and come back when you have working prototypes
You're digging your own grave

Crash, thanks for the advise, but with the "copious" number of orders coming from here, 2 other forums and reddit since my announcing the product starting friday night the only thing i am digging is my way into hitting my bonus in the first week of web relations, so i will continue on, through the trolling and whatever else and as each week goes by i will just be able to add a few more "i told you weeks ago you were an idiot" statements to my daily writings. In the mean time, as long as there are idiotic trolls, the thread stays near the top so i do not have to stay up around the clock to ensure its positioning.

Web presence started friday night, and not every website gets indexed and visited by googlebot as frequently as bitcointalk, probably why it has not shown more in google yet.

[cr4sh0verride]

The correct spelling of the word is advice
It also wasn't advice it was a question

The copious reference was to the unanswered questions not to the amount of orders from this forum
If you're going to paraphrase me at least keep it in the same context

That's fine then
Provide a link to all the references you have created to this product. I'm sure when we look through them all we can at least find a percentage of users that are interested. A fair number would be 30% of people publicly would mention they were interested in this deal and are going ahead with it

30% of 100 is 30 people.. nice round number
We'll all wait here while you do that shall we?

Crash, thanks for the advise, but with the "copious" number of orders coming from here, 2 other forums and reddit since my announcing the product starting friday night the only thing i am digging is my way into hitting my bonus in the first week of web relations, so i will continue on, through the trolling and whatever else and as each week goes by i will just be able to add a few more "i told you weeks ago you were an idiot" statements to my daily writings. In the mean time, as long as there are idiotic trolls, the thread stays near the top so i do not have to stay up around the clock to ensure its positioning.

Web presence started friday night, and not every website gets indexed and visited by googlebot as frequently as bitcointalk, probably why it has not shown more in google yet.

[kano]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and ...

Right, so I take you ignoring my exact question about this to mean that's bullshit ...

[cr4sh0verride]

An entire search on Reddit for the term "Cyrious" brings up one video from 2011

http://www.reddit.com/search?q=%22cyrious%22&restrict_sr=off&sort=relevance&t=all

The term "cyr" from this week has 3 unrelated references

http://www.reddit.com/search?q=%22cyr%22&sort=relevance&restrict_sr=off&t=week

Every other term related to this has turned up nothing..

So there is one of two possibilities here

1. I'm searching for the wrong terms and haven't found anything (or you misspelled your own product name)
2. You're lying about it being on Reddit

Which one is it?

Also as a side note if you're happy that all the "trolls" such as myself bumping the thread.. then why do you feel the need to petition the mods to delete posts? Are you going to deny that as well?

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and ...

Right, so I take you ignoring my exact question about this to mean that's bullshit ...

Kano, i dont see a question there. I answered the question about not being stand alone, which was not even your question it was meech's. So if you have a question, ask it instead of complaining that its not answered when you never asked.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

It seems a few missed the previous post as there have been a lot of e-mails about this again today.

I have been asked to issue a notice to customers until the web design team gets back into the office on Monday and updates the website. All orders placed through the website are automatically canceled if they are not funded or paid for within 60 minutes of the time the order is created. As there are often several "testing it out" orders with any hardware company and the web interface runs bitcoin-d in the background and generates a new address for each order, to avoid generating multiple addresses which are never used the backed cancels non funded orders after 1 hour and recycles the address after 72 hours. If you wait more than one hour to send payment you will be required to place a new order through the system

[cr4sh0verride]

Still waiting on all the links from the other places this has been advertised..

In fact it doesn't really matter
This thread has been relegated to a much less frequently visit sub forum

You can move along now it's over

Well done to all the rational and responsible people for making that happen 

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Still waiting on all the links from the other places this has been advertised..

In fact it doesn't really matter
This thread has been relegated to a much less frequently visit sub forum

You can move along now it's over

Well done to all the rational and responsible people for making that happen 

It dosnt matter where the thread is, really dosnt, but as long as you think you got it all figured out. beyond that, starting a new thread will take 30 seconds when its needed. Just waiting until they get the videos and whatnot. So this is me not giving a shit.

[cr4sh0verride]

Still waiting on those links....

Also on a forum where it specifically highlights words that you spell incorrectly
You misspelled doesn't twice.. in the space of 6 words.. so it's more than likely it not a simple error that's how you think the word is spelled.

If I were part of a company that had invested millions of dollars into a product I wouldn't hire someone that couldn't spell let alone brag about his great marketing strategy of "letting the trolls advertise for him" and brag about how he doesn't care either way because he is getting a "bonus" for his work

It's just all fun and games now but surely you can't be "cyrious"..
Ahh what a delicious pun!

[kano]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and ...

Right, so I take you ignoring my exact question about this to mean that's bullshit ...

Kano, i dont see a question there. I answered the question about not being stand alone, which was not even your question it was meech's. So if you have a question, ask it instead of complaining that its not answered when you never asked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593573.msg6522216#msg6522216

[raskul]

anyone received their jackass yet?

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and ...

Right, so I take you ignoring my exact question about this to mean that's bullshit ...

Kano, i dont see a question there. I answered the question about not being stand alone, which was not even your question it was meech's. So if you have a question, ask it instead of complaining that its not answered when you never asked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593573.msg6522216#msg6522216

Yeah kano, thats not going to happen. Arrangements are already being made with Dogie to get a unit for review so he can make a setup thread for them. He has much more credibility and has worked with several other companies.

[ChuckBuck]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and ...

Right, so I take you ignoring my exact question about this to mean that's bullshit ...

Kano, i dont see a question there. I answered the question about not being stand alone, which was not even your question it was meech's. So if you have a question, ask it instead of complaining that its not answered when you never asked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593573.msg6522216#msg6522216

Yeah kano, thats not going to happen. Arrangements are already being made with Dogie to get a unit for review so he can make a setup thread for them. He has much more credibility and has worked with several other companies.

Wait, are you trying to say Dogie(no offense) has more credibility than the CGminer developer, Kano?

[starsoccer9]

Ill try to not laugh to hard at what is clearly a scam.

The fact that you came up with 600$ for 1.4 terahashes sounds very cheap.Then you post that the unit will be use 450 watts or about 3.1 Gh per watt. When you can show clear power usage and clear videos of the unit hashing away then I would consider buying one.

If you are willing to be reasonable I will offer to review a unit. I will take a unboxing video and video plugging in and start up. I will pay full/regular price and simply request a real escrow site/user. This mean a real escrow service and not one that started up in the last 4 months and updated there public info about a month and a half ago,
Domain ID: D170733291-LROR
Creation Date: 2014-01-20T21:06:28Z
Updated Date: 2014-03-22T03:47:06Z

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and ...

Right, so I take you ignoring my exact question about this to mean that's bullshit ...

Kano, i dont see a question there. I answered the question about not being stand alone, which was not even your question it was meech's. So if you have a question, ask it instead of complaining that its not answered when you never asked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593573.msg6522216#msg6522216

Yeah kano, thats not going to happen. Arrangements are already being made with Dogie to get a unit for review so he can make a setup thread for them. He has much more credibility and has worked with several other companies.

Wait, are you trying to say Dogie(no offense) has more credibility than the CGminer developer, Kano?

No, what i am saying is that Dogie has more documented history of working with companies successfully and helping handle some of the load with simple technical support issues through his setup guides and that he has 1,000% more experience in this particular field so his credibility in this instance goes much further than Kanos. This is a hardware launch, not a software integration. If we were launching a new software which in some how improved miner functionality then Kano would be the guy. But that is not the case here.

[kano]

Anyone know the connectivity?  It's not a standalone miner?  It needs to be connected to a host computer via usb 3.0 port.

No, not a stand alone miner, drivers will be made available and support CG and ...

Right, so I take you ignoring my exact question about this to mean that's bullshit ...

Kano, i dont see a question there. I answered the question about not being stand alone, which was not even your question it was meech's. So if you have a question, ask it instead of complaining that its not answered when you never asked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593573.msg6522216#msg6522216

Yeah kano, thats not going to happen. Arrangements are already being made with Dogie to get a unit for review so he can make a setup thread for them. He has much more credibility and has worked with several other companies.

Heh funny about that bolded red part above

Seriously, I do no expect anyone to get any hardware from you like the bullshit specs stated.
Size, power, GH/s, cooling ... it's all a load of crap.
A pre-payment for a device 'supposedly' 2 months away with specs that are in fairy land with the unicorns

I'll say it again
Prove me wrong

[cr4sh0verride]

Still waiting on that list.....4th time I've requested it now

Must be getting quite long with all the advertising you've been doing elsewhere?

How many pre-orders now? 200?

You should post some more testimonials of people as well

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Still waiting on that list.....4th time I've requested it now

Must be getting quite long with all the advertising you've been doing elsewhere?

How many pre-orders now? 200?

You should post some more testimonials of people as well

Have better things to do than to compile a list of links to places where we have topics as that does not sell machines. Maybe next weekend when things are not busy and i just need some entertainment from trolls just to get a rise out of you.

[cr4sh0verride]

Just one link from Reddit...

Will take you 5 secs to open the page and post the link

Post the link or you were lying about it being on Reddit

Which is it?

Crash, thanks for the advise, but with the "copious" number of orders coming from here, 2 other forums and reddit since my announcing the product starting friday night the only thing i am digging is my way into hitting my bonus in the first week of web relations, so i will continue on, through the trolling and whatever else and as each week goes by i will just be able to add a few more "i told you weeks ago you were an idiot" statements to my daily writings. In the mean time, as long as there are idiotic trolls, the thread stays near the top so i do not have to stay up around the clock to ensure its positioning.

Web presence started friday night, and not every website gets indexed and visited by googlebot as frequently as bitcointalk, probably why it has not shown more in google yet.

[cr4sh0verride]

You know what.. I don't care it's not there I've already looked

I was just giving you the opportunity to confess that it wasn't

I think there has been enough work to expose this as an illegitimate proposal so no further comment is required

It's really sad that for whatever reason in your life it's come down to a point where you've made a decision to take advantage of other people
There are plenty of things in the world you can witness that restore your faith in humanity but this certainly isn't one of them

It's funny though how we have evolved to a point where there is no evolutionary pressure to remove people that take advantage of the fairness in a social structure
The ability to be able to work together to achieve a goal is one of the factors that got us to where we are today.. yet just imagine if someone like you existed a few thousand years ago
You would be ostracised from the main group, have to fend for yourself with a much lower chance of survival and your genes would eventually die out

I suppose you can say that rational and reasonable people are the evolutionary pressure of this thread .. Nature works in brilliant ways

[Meech]

To help put things to rest about your company and product another company "Zeus" is allowing one of the forum members to visit their company and take pictures and video of their product.  I know you might not be quite ready for something like this but it could get good publicity allowing for a ordinary persons view.  Just a thought, but more pics on your site might help with sales.  Waiting for your site to be updated and more info on refund policy if any.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

To help put things to rest about your company and product another company "Zeus" is allowing one of the forum members to visit their company and take pictures and video of their product.  I know you might not be quite ready for something like this but it could get good publicity allowing for a ordinary persons view.  Just a thought, but more pics on your site might help with sales.  Waiting for your site to be updated and more info on refund policy if any.

Hey meech, good point, but i think when Dogie gets a miner and runs his setup / review thread it will take care of most of that, granted the trolls will still troll, they will just find something else to troll about since legitimacy wont be a possible target. Trolls just troll its what they do because they have no money to activly participate in 90% of aspects of BTC.  The official launch of the website is set for this Friday so most of what you are looking for should be up by the weekend i believe.

[maxman190]

Can we get a confirmation from Dogie that he actually did contact this scammer?

[dogie]

Can we get a confirmation from Dogie that he actually did contact this scammer?

Confirmed, lets see what happens.

[maxman190]

Can we get a confirmation from Dogie that he actually did contact this scammer?

Confirmed, lets see what happens.

Did he give an estimate as to when he'll send you the hardware? I'm still thinking that he'll just say the post office lost the package or delivered it somewhere else.

[Meech]

Can we get a confirmation from Dogie that he actually did contact this scammer?

Confirmed, lets see what happens.

Did they mention any kind of time frame for this to happen - anxious to know how this plays out!

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

Just a quick update. We have brought on our first US & UK re-seller, TheCoinMiners. They will not be selling during the pre-order period, but will begin taking orders and selling once we start shipping units.

Welcome to the team guys

[cr4sh0verride]

I honestly can't believe you came back.. this was almost on page 4 and heading towards oblivion where it belongs

Firstly "We have brought on our first US & UK re-seller" doesn't make sense.
The grammar is terrible and you used the wrong word

Secondly you could have at least registered with another domain service this time.. Yet no.. same one again..registered only 4 days ago
Is that what you've been doing for the last week? Making this website? Making all the pretty pictures and signing up for a free shopping cart?
What went through your mind when you put in the graphic that says "Over 700 satisfied customers"

Do you really think people are that retarded?

Just crawl back to whatever hole you came out of and stay their please

Just a quick update. We have brought on our first US & UK re-seller, TheCoinMiners. They will not be selling during the pre-order period, but will begin taking orders and selling once we start shipping units.

Welcome to the team guys

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

I honestly can't believe you came back.. this was almost on page 4 and heading towards oblivion where it belongs

Firstly "We have brought on our first US & UK re-seller" doesn't make sense.
The grammar is terrible and you used the wrong word

Secondly you could have at least registered with another domain service this time.. Yet no.. same one again..registered only 4 days ago
Is that what you've been doing for the last week? Making this website? Making all the pretty pictures and signing up for a free shopping cart?
What went through your mind when you put in the graphic that says "Over 700 satisfied customers"

Do you really think people are that retarded?

Just crawl back to whatever hole you came out of and stay their please

Just a quick update. We have brought on our first US & UK re-seller, TheCoinMiners. They will not be selling during the pre-order period, but will begin taking orders and selling once we start shipping units.

Welcome to the team guys

Glad you are an English major, & again glad you think you got it all figured out. Please keep on outsmarting yourself. Over 800 machines of the 1,000 available for pre-order in less than 2 weeks, but as long as you got it all figured out all is well. Please feel free to continue to not order, they dont want business from idiots like you anyways.

[cr4sh0verride]

Every single post you make is riddled with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors.

A 4th grader would be more adept at the English language than you.. let alone an English major

Not but a few days ago I made a fake order on your website to see how you were trying to fraudulently sell an illegitimate product
This was order number 46 as per the screenshot. The order was made at a time you said you had over 300 orders.. so between the last 3-4 days you will have everyone believe that there has been
800 - 46 = 754 pre-orders of this machine from advertising in this forum exclusively
In a thread that hasn't been touch in over a week that got almost to Page 4.. in one of the lesser active subforums



People that fraudulently take money from other people are akin to criminals that deserve sentences  of 10 years or more

The most retarded things are
A. You keep persisting with it
B. It's not even an intelligent fraud.. Whoever you're working with you could have sat down with for a day and just wrote everything you think it would make it look that way and at least try to change it

It's not surprising though

[mailmansDOG]

CYR should better show some more believable proof rather than some bad quality pictures of a black box that could be anything if they want people to trust them.

If the unit they that are being talked here is already created/currently being created they could just post it here to convince everyone but instead we see a huge trollfest.

Until they have a decent update they should be considered a SCAM.

[Johnny Bitcoin Walker]

CYR should better show some more believable proof rather than some bad quality pictures of a black box that could be anything if they want people to trust them.

If the unit they that are being talked here is already created/currently being created they could just post it here to convince everyone but instead we see a huge trollfest.

Until they have a decent update they should be considered a SCAM.

Hey, trolling is fun, and around this forum, a large part of doing business. The BFL and Cointerra threads are some of the largest trollfests on this forum or for that matter on the entire world wide web. The pre-order sales should be wrapping up in less than 48 hours at the pre-designated 1,000 unit mark. So for now you can consider it what you want, i myself couldn't care less. I got my bonus, i did what i was contracted to do. and the company got what it wanted.

Nuff said.

[cr4sh0verride]

I'm pretty sure this guy has some form of mental retardation..

Not only did he also register this new site only a few days ago
He also did it with exactly the same hosting provider as the other two sites..

And on this new one he's ripped off every single picture on the site from the Internet
Choose any of the pictures on that site and if you use Chrome you can show similar images
One came from an obscure German Ebay type site over a year ago

I think you're stupid enough to register them all under the same account as well

And as soon as anyone says the word scam it triggers his "troll alert".. dear lord the BFL and Cointerra  are the biggest troll threads on the WORLD WIDE WEB!!
The trolls per capita on these are astronomical.. oh the humanity!
Now watch with my awesome logic skills make a comparison to their threads in relation to my own...
1. All have massive amounts of trolls
2. Cointerra and BFL actually have devices that people are actually using
3. Therefore my devices are real

Oh also no worries guys.. I got my bonus I don't care now I don't care what happens.. I only created all these free sites in a few days
Even if I get a few stupid people to buy something I've made more than I came with

"Nuff said." Are you a prepubescent teenager?

I've done enough now no one in this thread is going to be a victim of this fraud.. If I see it anywhere on the Internet as well I'll point it back here

One piece of final advice though.. Don't procreate any further.. humanity would be better off

[DimensionsOfHell]

No updates, no nothing for a while. Guess this was all bullshit.

[tzortz]

Of course it was , from the start.

[MrWDunne]

Wait, you mean the guy who uploaded a picture of a plain black box and heatsink and called it an ASIC wasn't genuine.

Holy shit, who can you trust any more.

[tzortz]

Knc maybe? They say will ship Neptunes.

[ChuckBuck]

Dangit I almost pulled the trigger for 10 of these bad boys. .... NOT!   

[tzortz]

That is not even a joke!      

[Meech]

Wish it were real but if it sounds too good to be true it typically is!  Damm

[kano]

What? you didn't click on their web site ... that no longer works?
http://www.cyrminers.com/

[MrWDunne]

This whole project wasn't very cyrious