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BlackHalo today and there is such silence in here, whats up with you? Today's volume should blow up the roof...
People waiting to try it first. The price has already moved since a few days back. well it seems all that ppl care about is anonymous ass-coins.... it's also sunday + midsummer. I'm expecting a BIG announcement from MBA regarding BlackHalo & NightTrader - that should do it. I'd expect the market to react extremely bullish accordingly.. or maybe not: the features are not unique to blackcoin as also BTC has bithalo etc. let's hold and see. |
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June 22, 2014, 08:38:26 PM |
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Excellent, this is a good way to fund development! Unfortunately this will take the manipulators out of the equation so the "Inside Traders" (notice the absence of comments from heavy hitters!) will not support it! Right now most development is secret so the people with insider info can greatly benefit. I believe this is the source of the "sell on the news" event, the insider information people selling all of the coin they bought before the release!
In any event your contribution (idea) is excellent and I support it. The heavy hitters in Black Coin will not like to lose power out of their hands.
As a member of "the heavy hitters" I can tell you that you are completely wrong on this one. We would love to have a more community backed development and I think the plans are also to get something like this to the foundation webpage where you can vote and fund things. The reason for much being "secretly" funded so far is more a practical thing. We haven't had any other platforms for funding stuff so far. The conspiracy theories about big holders doing evil stuff is just bogus, we actively HODL and try to get the coin forward. We cant manipulate the price by holding, now for several months. I am sure there are "heavy hitters" that don't care about the coin and only about instaprofits, but they aren't those funding the projects You are absolutely right. I apologize for generalizing this issue, you are probably one of the very few that care. Lets hope that more people get on board and support development as a community initiative rather then a way to get a quick BTC gain via rumors and ninja announcements.BUMP Make some x% of stake for development mandatory. DEVELOPMENT IS NOT OPTIONAL, IT IS A MUST HAVE FOR ANY COIN TO SUCCEED! If you want BC to succeed then all coin holders must contribute to development. If you do not believe in development and the future of BC then don't buy BlackCoin! Please dont let these bastards making the development funding optional.. If there is not development then the 1% stake you dont want to donate for development will be worthless sooner than you think! |
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June 22, 2014, 09:11:18 PM |
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Excellent, this is a good way to fund development! Unfortunately this will take the manipulators out of the equation so the "Inside Traders" (notice the absence of comments from heavy hitters!) will not support it! Right now most development is secret so the people with insider info can greatly benefit. I believe this is the source of the "sell on the news" event, the insider information people selling all of the coin they bought before the release!
In any event your contribution (idea) is excellent and I support it. The heavy hitters in Black Coin will not like to lose power out of their hands.
As a member of "the heavy hitters" I can tell you that you are completely wrong on this one. We would love to have a more community backed development and I think the plans are also to get something like this to the foundation webpage where you can vote and fund things. The reason for much being "secretly" funded so far is more a practical thing. We haven't had any other platforms for funding stuff so far. The conspiracy theories about big holders doing evil stuff is just bogus, we actively HODL and try to get the coin forward. We cant manipulate the price by holding, now for several months. I am sure there are "heavy hitters" that don't care about the coin and only about instaprofits, but they aren't those funding the projects You are absolutely right. I apologize for generalizing this issue, you are probably one of the very few that care. Lets hope that more people get on board and support development as a community initiative rather then a way to get a quick BTC gain via rumors and ninja announcements.BUMP Make some x% of stake for development mandatory. DEVELOPMENT IS NOT OPTIONAL, IT IS A MUST HAVE FOR ANY COIN TO SUCCEED! If you want BC to succeed then all coin holders must contribute to development. If you do not believe in development and the future of BC then don't buy BlackCoin! Please dont let these bastards making the development funding optional.. If there is not development then the 1% stake you dont want to donate for development will be worthless sooner than you think! Yeah lets force the users of a decentralized crypto currency to fund a centralized foundation. Lets close the source, make a relaunch with IPO and premine. Oh and then we probably need to fire rat4 because he surely wouldn't like it. Then lets get rid of this stupid p2p concept, just one central server that handles all transactions and which is controlled by some shady bank. Finally we should make contracts with some government that backs this currency, maybe USD. That's how crypto should work, right? Another crazy idea: Lets stay with the very honest concept rat4 had in mind when he created this project. Let's encourage true believers to participate and develop great software that is not intended to push some SAT conversion rate, but to create an ecosystem that people all over the world can use without trusting central entities and banks. Let's then get companies to build profit oriented products on top of that wonderful technology. Then let's watch back on a fully functional international currency in 20 years and tell everyone that we were part of its creation and that we couldn't be more proud of that since we did it because of the idea and not because we wanted to buy a new car by ripping of some trading noobs. |
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June 22, 2014, 09:56:06 PM
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Excellent, this is a good way to fund development! Unfortunately this will take the manipulators out of the equation so the "Inside Traders" (notice the absence of comments from heavy hitters!) will not support it! Right now most development is secret so the people with insider info can greatly benefit. I believe this is the source of the "sell on the news" event, the insider information people selling all of the coin they bought before the release!
In any event your contribution (idea) is excellent and I support it. The heavy hitters in Black Coin will not like to lose power out of their hands.
As a member of "the heavy hitters" I can tell you that you are completely wrong on this one. We would love to have a more community backed development and I think the plans are also to get something like this to the foundation webpage where you can vote and fund things. The reason for much being "secretly" funded so far is more a practical thing. We haven't had any other platforms for funding stuff so far. The conspiracy theories about big holders doing evil stuff is just bogus, we actively HODL and try to get the coin forward. We cant manipulate the price by holding, now for several months. I am sure there are "heavy hitters" that don't care about the coin and only about instaprofits, but they aren't those funding the projects You are absolutely right. I apologize for generalizing this issue, you are probably one of the very few that care. Lets hope that more people get on board and support development as a community initiative rather then a way to get a quick BTC gain via rumors and ninja announcements.BUMP Make some x% of stake for development mandatory. DEVELOPMENT IS NOT OPTIONAL, IT IS A MUST HAVE FOR ANY COIN TO SUCCEED! If you want BC to succeed then all coin holders must contribute to development. If you do not believe in development and the future of BC then don't buy BlackCoin! Please dont let these bastards making the development funding optional.. If there is not development then the 1% stake you dont want to donate for development will be worthless sooner than you think! Yeah lets force the users of a decentralized crypto currency to fund a centralized foundation. Lets close the source, make a relaunch with IPO and premine. Oh and then we probably need to fire rat4 because he surely wouldn't like it. Then lets get rid of this stupid p2p concept, just one central server that handles all transactions and which is controlled by some shady bank. Finally we should make contracts with some government that backs this currency, maybe USD. That's how crypto should work, right? Another crazy idea: Lets stay with the very honest concept rat4 had in mind when he created this project. Let's encourage true believers to participate and develop great software that is not intended to push some SAT conversion rate, but to create an ecosystem that people all over the world can use without trusting central entities and banks. Let's then get companies to build profit oriented products on top of that wonderful technology. Then let's watch back on a fully functional international currency in 20 years and tell everyone that we were part of its creation and that we couldn't be more proud of that since we did it because of the idea and not because we wanted to buy a new car by ripping of some trading noobs. I am not technically oriented but I was reading about XC and CACH joining forces to develop PoBC. (Proof of BlockChain) Some people claim that it is better than POS so I hope we keep our eyes open and head into the future with an open mind. Here are some of the interesting post I found: PoBC will help with mass adoption .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg7451922#msg7451922PoBC will help adapting to change and increase privacy... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg7450438#msg7450438PoBC required two coins to share and strengthen the block-chain and allow collaboration from blockchains that can share information... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg7449336#msg7449336As I said above I am not technical savvy about this but this type of shared blockchain implementation can strengthen both coins and allows for cooperation where the end result 1+1 > 2 Again I dont claim that this information above is fact or hype; I claim that development must continue and if you buy into BC you should be willing to give some or all of the 1% POS for development. |
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June 22, 2014, 10:01:55 PM |
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Yeah lets force the users of a decentralized crypto currency to fund a centralized foundation....
The original proposal from Xblade was to have the community voting on how to use the development. This should take a way the power from the Fundation and give it the common people. |
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June 22, 2014, 10:25:53 PM |
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There is nothing more constant than change... if BC does not evolve.. it will fade away. DEVELOPMENT IS A MUST.I am not technically oriented but I was reading about XC and CACH joining forces to develop PoBC. (Proof of BlockChain) Some people claim that it is better than POS so I hope we keep our eyes open and head into the future with an open mind. Here are some of the interesting post I found: PoBC will help with mass adoption .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg7451922#msg7451922PoBC will help adapting to change and increase privacy... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg7450438#msg7450438PoBC required two coins to share and strengthen the block-chain and allow collaboration from blockchains that can share information. As I said above I am not technical savvy about this but this type of shared blockchain implementation can strengthen both coins and allows for cooperation where the end result 1+1 > 2 Again I dont claim that this information above is fact or hype; I claim that development must continue and if you buy into BC you should be willing to give some or all of the 1% POS for development. Here is the OP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575013.0Roughly speaking the author suggests that a valid block header requires two hashes, the first is normal PoW and the second depends on a particular block in the blockchain history which is selected through some part (e.g. the last 32 bits) of the hash generated by PoW. The whole idea is an anti ASIC idea, since ASICs usually don't have the required amount of memory to store the blockchain completely and therefore to access it in an efficient way. So it is yet another attempt to make an ASIC proof PoW mining algorithm. Good idea though, however there are incredibly smart people in the ASIC development area who might find a way to solve this. btw, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575013.msg6275522#msg6275522 <--- this is exactly what is wrong with cryptos nowadays. Sometimes I wish all these coins wouldn't be worth anything like a couple of years ago, then people would probably cooperate much more instead of attempting to make money out of every tiny idea they have. |
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June 22, 2014, 10:47:18 PM |
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The reason why this stuff caught my attention is because it seem like a way to sum forces between different Block-Chains. For example if XC does anon well, and then another block-chain does messaging, and another does TOR, and another does POS, then could each coin share its stregths and merge these chain streghts into one wallet with POS, Anon, Mesagging? In this way each dev maintains its chain to its best abilities and all of the cooperation benefits all.
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June 22, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
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June 22, 2014, 11:17:06 PM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it  |
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June 22, 2014, 11:25:44 PM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it guessing rzr ninja launch today on mintpal. people going for the quick buck. it definitely is getting old, but we always go up. |
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June 23, 2014, 12:14:16 AM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it who cares? we all know `it will pump` |
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June 23, 2014, 12:39:37 AM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it Blackcoin is the only coin I know that doesn't move on rumors or news... But, it will one day... |
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June 23, 2014, 01:08:55 AM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it Blackcoin is the only coin I know that doesn't move on rumors or news... But, it will one day... I know it needs to move but in a way it is also kind of good it doesn't skyrocket on rumors or announcements...a lot of times it's pump and dumps coordinated with news so really a coin ends up back down where it started. Hope we move up some and stay up though once we can actually try out 2.0 or blackhalo and it proves itself, reflected in value not a rumor. |
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June 23, 2014, 01:23:19 AM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it Blackcoin is the only coin I know that doesn't move on rumors or news... But, it will one day... I know it needs to move but in a way it is also kind of good it doesn't skyrocket on rumors or announcements...a lot of times it's pump and dumps coordinated with news so really a coin ends up back down where it started. Hope we move up some and stay up though once we can actually try out 2.0 or blackhalo and it proves itself, reflected in value not a rumor. Mass adaptation of smart contracts can help ext and other stuff for real use. But this is not something that will rocket you in one day its slow process get people to use those features. So BC 20-25k is today BC flor area like many other coins without REAL point of use we are mainly field for speculations at the end. But today cryptomarket is quite BIG so it will be harder and harder for any coin. |
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June 23, 2014, 01:47:13 AM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it Blackcoin is the only coin I know that doesn't move on rumors or news... But, it will one day... I know it needs to move but in a way it is also kind of good it doesn't skyrocket on rumors or announcements...a lot of times it's pump and dumps coordinated with news so really a coin ends up back down where it started. Hope we move up some and stay up though once we can actually try out 2.0 or blackhalo and it proves itself, reflected in value not a rumor. Mass adaptation of smart contracts can help ext and other stuff for real use. But this is not something that will rocket you in one day its slow process get people to use those features. So BC 20-25k is today BC flor area like many other coins without REAL point of use we are mainly field for speculations at the end. But today cryptomarket is quite BIG so it will be harder and harder for any coin. Exactly. I think it's a good thing real features and not rumors of features are what makes the price and value rise because it will sustain. A sharp rise now potentially signals a pump and subsequent dump. It may be more difficult like you said, with all the new coins out, but true value will hold as they are implemented while scams and pump and dump coins will fade away. Cream always rises to the top, as they say!  |
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June 23, 2014, 02:05:43 AM |
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Sellers be aware.
I suspect that BlackHalo Public Beta will be available after XMR starts trading on MP so if you sell BC to buy XMR you might be left out of a BC pump.
But then again the "sell on the news event" could take BC down to 19K or lower... everything is possible in crypto.
In case you are wondering, I don't have any insider information and I am still holding BC.
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June 23, 2014, 02:37:08 AM |
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why is the price still so low with all these good news? really don't get it Blackcoin is the only coin I know that doesn't move on rumors or news... But, it will one day... I know it needs to move but in a way it is also kind of good it doesn't skyrocket on rumors or announcements...a lot of times it's pump and dumps coordinated with news so really a coin ends up back down where it started. Hope we move up some and stay up though once we can actually try out 2.0 or blackhalo and it proves itself, reflected in value not a rumor. Mass adaptation of smart contracts can help ext and other stuff for real use. But this is not something that will rocket you in one day its slow process get people to use those features. So BC 20-25k is today BC flor area like many other coins without REAL point of use we are mainly field for speculations at the end. But today cryptomarket is quite BIG so it will be harder and harder for any coin. Exactly. I think it's a good thing real features and not rumors of features are what makes the price and value rise because it will sustain. A sharp rise now potentially signals a pump and subsequent dump. It may be more difficult like you said, with all the new coins out, but true value will hold as they are implemented while scams and pump and dump coins will fade away. Cream always rises to the top, as they say! I like my coffee Black like my coin... |
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June 23, 2014, 03:16:56 AM |
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Excellent, this is a good way to fund development! Unfortunately this will take the manipulators out of the equation so the "Inside Traders" (notice the absence of comments from heavy hitters!) will not support it! Right now most development is secret so the people with insider info can greatly benefit. I believe this is the source of the "sell on the news" event, the insider information people selling all of the coin they bought before the release!
In any event your contribution (idea) is excellent and I support it. The heavy hitters in Black Coin will not like to lose power out of their hands.
As a member of "the heavy hitters" I can tell you that you are completely wrong on this one. We would love to have a more community backed development and I think the plans are also to get something like this to the foundation webpage where you can vote and fund things. The reason for much being "secretly" funded so far is more a practical thing. We haven't had any other platforms for funding stuff so far. The conspiracy theories about big holders doing evil stuff is just bogus, we actively HODL and try to get the coin forward. We cant manipulate the price by holding, now for several months. I am sure there are "heavy hitters" that don't care about the coin and only about instaprofits, but they aren't those funding the projects You are absolutely right. I apologize for generalizing this issue, you are probably one of the very few that care. Lets hope that more people get on board and support development as a community initiative rather then a way to get a quick BTC gain via rumors and ninja announcements.BUMP Make some x% of stake for development mandatory. DEVELOPMENT IS NOT OPTIONAL, IT IS A MUST HAVE FOR ANY COIN TO SUCCEED! If you want BC to succeed then all coin holders must contribute to development. If you do not believe in development and the future of BC then don't buy BlackCoin! Please dont let these bastards making the development funding optional.. If there is not development then the 1% stake you dont want to donate for development will be worthless sooner than you think! this has distinguishing feature,I am ery interested in, nice future for sure. |
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June 23, 2014, 04:14:06 AM
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Please dont let these bastards making the development funding optional.. If there is not development then the 1% stake you dont want to donate for development will be worthless sooner than you think!
1. Who are "these bastards"? Were you not the guy who did not want personal attacks? 2. How do you force people to stake at all? 3. This would actually even be worse than premine because of an (in theory) infinite amount of coins going to a central "authority". You say people who do not want to donate their 1% should not hold BC. Maybe people who do nothing towards the coin other than bitching around when it does not rise should not hold BC as well. By the way, i had a brief chat with rat4 and he does not like the idea of having this feature in the official wallet too much (security concerns). I will try to look into this myself and maybe create a concept how it could be done efficiently and safe since i do not share his concerns, however it is not as simple as the lot of you will think it is. SIMPLE IS TO SIMPLY DONATE SOME BC/FIAT W/O BEING FORCED TO DO SO. Buy-black, a serious suggestion from me: The best you could do for this coin is to never post again since it is nothing but bullshit for weeks now. |
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