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July 12, 2015, 01:13:37 PM |
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Dear Genesis Mining Community.
As some of you may or may not be aware, there have been problems with the Bitcoin blockchain recently where transactions can take a long time to be confirmed.
Some of our customers seem to have suffered from this issue and most of the time it is due to them either paying no transaction fee or a small transaction fee.
Some older Bitcoin wallets or online providers do not allow you to change the amount of the transaction fee but as it is becoming more of an issue we advise you to contact support of your online wallet supplier and ask them what the transaction fee is and if will be possible to change it to a higher amount in the future so that your payments can confirm faster.
If you have an older wallet installed on your PC, where the fee can not be changed and might be set to 0 or 0.0001 or smaller as a transaction fee, then you do run the risk of having your payment not only to us but to any item you purchase with Bitcoin being held up for hours or even days. Check the help file or website of the wallet that you use to see if there is an updated version of it available or an option in the menus where you can change the amount you send.
Also, some users at the moment are not sending us the exact amount when they are sending their Bitcoins to us so sometimes we end up being a bit short. Can you make sure when sending payouts to us it is exactly the same as advertised on the screen after codes etc have been entered.
Please remember also when sending Bitcoin to us, to send it within 15 minutes of you getting your QR code or wallet address onscreen as Bitcoin values will change and if the amount you send does not match the amount on our system then it will not be automatically approved and then has to be done manually by our IT Support team and that is a further delay to you.
Best Regards
Genesis Mining Support.
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majestymage
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July 12, 2015, 01:18:22 PM |
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how can you can expect for us to buy something that roi's probably after the halving of next year? very weak company!
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Bo joe
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July 12, 2015, 10:21:29 PM |
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You people haven't learned yet have you? All cloud mining services are a scam, period. Just another ponzi that will collapse in the near future.
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July 12, 2015, 11:10:12 PM |
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July 13, 2015, 08:21:58 AM |
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As promised please find below a partial list of mining addresses that are used by Genesis Mining.
Thanks for the information. FWIW all those addresses could already be tied to your hot wallet by taint analysis.
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July 13, 2015, 09:19:07 AM |
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majestymage
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July 13, 2015, 12:52:11 PM |
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so what if they actually mine? i better buy btc right now and i will not have to wait 1+ years to roi...and please escuse me but in 1 year halving is on the way so it might just not be profitable at all...how conveniant that they do not say on their site how big is the maintainance fee
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July 13, 2015, 01:11:41 PM |
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so what if they actually mine? i better buy btc right now and i will not have to wait 1+ years to roi...and please escuse me but in 1 year halving is on the way so it might just not be profitable at all...how conveniant that they do not say on their site how big is the maintainance fee Most likely because the fee has changed over time. If you spent more time researching instead of just writing negative posts in your short posting history, then perhaps you would have found this on their site. www.genesis-mining.com/FAQWhat is the maintenance fee? The maintenance fee covers all costs related to mining including, inter-alia: electricity cost cooling maintenance work hosting services It is calculated per MH/s scrypt or per GH/s sha256 and automatically deducted on a daily basis. For the current maintenance fee, please check contract details. I have a feeling that as their fees have decreased over time, they feel it is better to read the latest contract because otherwise you might think the fee is more than it should be. By the way the contract is something you can view before purchasing, infact it is something you should read before purchasing. Contracts are quite important things. They have a twitter page, a facebook page, instead of spending 5 minutes writing here, you could write on those and ask what the daily fee is. Simple really! Ian
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majestymage
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July 13, 2015, 01:24:46 PM |
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you my friend must have some interest on the issue...you did not adrees the main aspect of the problem...it's irrelevant that i'm new here and whatever they provide in the maintainance fee...is too expensive
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July 13, 2015, 01:32:52 PM |
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you my friend must have some interest on the issue...you did not adrees the main aspect of the problem...it's irrelevant that i'm new here and whatever they provide in the maintainance fee...is too expensive
Well just mine at home then if you do not like the fees. I can not because the electricity fees in the country I live in are far too expensive And nobody is forcing you to purchase hashpower with this company, plenty of others to choose from, I myself have contracts at, at least 5 different companies.
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July 13, 2015, 02:03:48 PM |
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you my friend must have some interest on the issue...you did not adrees the main aspect of the problem...it's irrelevant that i'm new here and whatever they provide in the maintainance fee...is too expensive
Well just mine at home then if you do not like the fees. I can not because the electricity fees in the country I live in are far too expensive And nobody is forcing you to purchase hashpower with this company, plenty of others to choose from, I myself have contracts at, at least 5 different companies. Here in Holland you pay 0.245 euro cent for 1 kilowatt. If you use lot more that normal you need to pay even extra. So mining here would be extreme painfully process, thanks to Genesis Mining can can still mine. And remember i made roi some time ago. Each day is a profit day now
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July 14, 2015, 06:27:25 AM |
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What I am surprised is that even though the majority of people here post real problems in this thread, 600 days ROI, really expensive, some updates about X11 which they promised, etc, GM stuff has never even tried to discuss these issues which shows they do not really care and they consider the community to be sheep to take advantage of.
Very nice tactics. GM Marko, if I were you, I would at least try to compete with Hashnest.
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July 14, 2015, 11:17:39 AM Last edit: July 14, 2015, 11:56:11 AM by julian071 |
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I'm amazed about the amount of negativity by some people here. The last year has seen most cloudmining operations to be utter scams. Genesis is one of the few that isn't. It seems logical to me that because they are a legit, viable operation, they cannot pay out the profits that the ponzi schemes did - or at least, what they paid out before they ran off with their user's money. That said, I find the rewards just fine. They are much better then e.g. with Zeushash. They are also MUCH better then you would get with a bank or other investment vessels.
But more importantly, if you believe there are better investments, by all means invest in those but spare us the bitching and moaning please. It's simply annoying to read and adds nothing.
Other issues that are mentioned above have been discussed, just click back a page.
Edit: looking at the banner and the post history of crazyivan, could this negative post be inspired by the wish to direct people to another ponzi scam?
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Zeta0S
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July 14, 2015, 02:06:01 PM |
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What I am surprised... some updates about X11 which they promised. Very nice tactics. GM Marko, if I were you, I would at least try to compete with Hashnest.
Simple, X11 coins dropped huge in price, thats why there is no X11 mining available
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tokingtoking
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July 14, 2015, 02:31:02 PM |
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why people skeptical?...just take it or leave it.
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July 14, 2015, 04:19:51 PM |
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I'm amazed about the amount of negativity by some people here. The last year has seen most cloudmining operations to be utter scams. Genesis is one of the few that isn't. It seems logical to me that because they are a legit, viable operation, they cannot pay out the profits that the ponzi schemes did - or at least, what they paid out before they ran off with their user's money. That said, I find the rewards just fine. They are much better then e.g. with Zeushash. They are also MUCH better then you would get with a bank or other investment vessels.
But more importantly, if you believe there are better investments, by all means invest in those but spare us the bitching and moaning please. It's simply annoying to read and adds nothing.
Other issues that are mentioned above have been discussed, just click back a page.
Edit: looking at the banner and the post history of crazyivan, could this negative post be inspired by the wish to direct people to another ponzi scam?
This negative post is inspired by the fact I ve been trying hard for the last year to find A SINGLE PERSON on this forum who has reached ROI with Genesis Mining. Again, A SINGLE PERSON. Have you reached ROI and can you provide evidence of that? Anyone else? If there s no single person who has reached ROI with them, this means this service takes money from their clients and provides next to nothing. True, they are not ponzi, but they are a nice cloud which takes advantage of newbies to take their money and give them very little back. What is the purpose of Genesis Mining if you cannot make money on their cloud? To take money from other people? Ha? As long this is the case, I will post wherever I want and whenever I want, simply to warn people about the level of service they provide. About my banner, I ll show you 200 people who reached ROI with DMD Diamond, especially since the price went up 100% about a week ago and everyone else who s been holding this coin automatically reached ROI. So pls, do share any proof about services I endorse being scam or unprofitable, pls do. Services you endorse, on the other hand, are not scam but they are obviously EXTREMELY unprofitable. I m sure they have at least 20k clients and NOT A SINGLE person reached ROI. Brilliant service, let s all give them our money.
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July 14, 2015, 05:04:52 PM Last edit: July 14, 2015, 05:23:35 PM by IanFoxley |
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I'm amazed about the amount of negativity by some people here. The last year has seen most cloudmining operations to be utter scams. Genesis is one of the few that isn't. It seems logical to me that because they are a legit, viable operation, they cannot pay out the profits that the ponzi schemes did - or at least, what they paid out before they ran off with their user's money. That said, I find the rewards just fine. They are much better then e.g. with Zeushash. They are also MUCH better then you would get with a bank or other investment vessels.
But more importantly, if you believe there are better investments, by all means invest in those but spare us the bitching and moaning please. It's simply annoying to read and adds nothing.
Other issues that are mentioned above have been discussed, just click back a page.
Edit: looking at the banner and the post history of crazyivan, could this negative post be inspired by the wish to direct people to another ponzi scam?
This negative post is inspired by the fact I ve been trying hard for the last year to find A SINGLE PERSON on this forum who has reached ROI with Genesis Mining. Again, A SINGLE PERSON. Have you reached ROI and can you provide evidence of that? Anyone else? If there s no single person who has reached ROI with them, this means this service takes money from their clients and provides next to nothing. True, they are not ponzi, but they are a nice cloud which takes advantage of newbies to take their money and give them very little back. What is the purpose of Genesis Mining if you cannot make money on their cloud? To take money from other people? Ha? As long this is the case, I will post wherever I want and whenever I want, simply to warn people about the level of service they provide. About my banner, I ll show you 200 people who reached ROI with DMD Diamond, especially since the price went up 100% about a week ago and everyone else who s been holding this coin automatically reached ROI. So pls, do share any proof about services I endorse being scam or unprofitable, pls do. Services you endorse, on the other hand, are not scam but they are obviously EXTREMELY unprofitable. I m sure they have at least 20k clients and NOT A SINGLE person reached ROI. Brilliant service, let s all give them our money. Hey Ivan, I think Julian was mainly writing about the posts here recently in general, not just yours. ---Julian, If Crazyivan wants to help promote the advantages of having POS (point of stake coins) and it's benefits then what is the issue? This is what I see mainly in his post history. I think POS is good in many ways and if Ivan wants to let everyone know this, i do not really know what the issue is. Regarding ROI I did write recently that if anyone has been mining Litecoin over time especially with Scrypt 1 year contracts then they might have reached ROI mining Litecoin especially if they sold a few days ago when Litecoin was reaching 7-8 USD each. Even now it is still at 4. If they purchased their contracts in August for example, they could still be mining a nice amount of Litecoin each day all due to the fact that the mining difficulty of Litecoin started dropping quite alot in January and February. Not every GM customer will come here and read this post but I am pretty sure there must be some people out there who must have made ROI. Perhaps they might let you know sometime Ivan. I have reached ROI a long time ago but as I told you, this was with the help of referral hashpower too. But if you are interested, I did do some comparison videos as you will no doubt know from September with 10GH/s SHA 256 and 1 MH/s Scrypt. The Scrypt got converted to 1GH/s hashpower in February which really reduced the amount I get back each day but even so, my original contracts cost 0.056 BTC in total and right now I have 0.04189957 BTC back. This is over 75 percent back since September so yes it has taken a long time but I still think it will be less than 600 days as we are not even up to a year yet. The wallet address that I use for my Youtube videos is 18zUcPAXgPPSiU8r6m7mQqfkrcKRcAEEdi so feel free to take a look as every payout mentioned on the videos and also up to today are there for all to see. Here is the address used when I paid for the contracts https://blockchain.info/address/1N8egacjonfZoXxJfHptYAc5V4JPk95X4gAs you can see 0.056 BTC was sent. If the Lifetime Scrypt contracts and Scrypt mining in general had not gone the way it had, it is pretty possible that i would have made ROI by now on these contracts. Ian
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July 14, 2015, 07:57:32 PM |
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I'm amazed about the amount of negativity by some people here. The last year has seen most cloudmining operations to be utter scams. Genesis is one of the few that isn't. It seems logical to me that because they are a legit, viable operation, they cannot pay out the profits that the ponzi schemes did - or at least, what they paid out before they ran off with their user's money. That said, I find the rewards just fine. They are much better then e.g. with Zeushash. They are also MUCH better then you would get with a bank or other investment vessels.
But more importantly, if you believe there are better investments, by all means invest in those but spare us the bitching and moaning please. It's simply annoying to read and adds nothing.
Other issues that are mentioned above have been discussed, just click back a page.
Edit: looking at the banner and the post history of crazyivan, could this negative post be inspired by the wish to direct people to another ponzi scam?
This negative post is inspired by the fact I ve been trying hard for the last year to find A SINGLE PERSON on this forum who has reached ROI with Genesis Mining. Again, A SINGLE PERSON. Have you reached ROI and can you provide evidence of that? Anyone else? If there s no single person who has reached ROI with them, this means this service takes money from their clients and provides next to nothing. True, they are not ponzi, but they are a nice cloud which takes advantage of newbies to take their money and give them very little back. What is the purpose of Genesis Mining if you cannot make money on their cloud? To take money from other people? Ha? As long this is the case, I will post wherever I want and whenever I want, simply to warn people about the level of service they provide. About my banner, I ll show you 200 people who reached ROI with DMD Diamond, especially since the price went up 100% about a week ago and everyone else who s been holding this coin automatically reached ROI. So pls, do share any proof about services I endorse being scam or unprofitable, pls do. Services you endorse, on the other hand, are not scam but they are obviously EXTREMELY unprofitable. I m sure they have at least 20k clients and NOT A SINGLE person reached ROI. Brilliant service, let s all give them our money. Hey Ivan, I think Julian was mainly writing about the posts here recently in general, not just yours. ---Julian, If Crazyivan wants to help promote the advantages of having POS (point of stake coins) and it's benefits then what is the issue? This is what I see mainly in his post history. I think POS is good in many ways and if Ivan wants to let everyone know this, i do not really know what the issue is. Regarding ROI I did write recently that if anyone has been mining Litecoin over time especially with Scrypt 1 year contracts then they might have reached ROI mining Litecoin especially if they sold a few days ago when Litecoin was reaching 7-8 USD each. Even now it is still at 4. If they purchased their contracts in August for example, they could still be mining a nice amount of Litecoin each day all due to the fact that the mining difficulty of Litecoin started dropping quite alot in January and February. Not every GM customer will come here and read this post but I am pretty sure there must be some people out there who must have made ROI. Perhaps they might let you know sometime Ivan. I have reached ROI a long time ago but as I told you, this was with the help of referral hashpower too. But if you are interested, I did do some comparison videos as you will no doubt know from September with 10GH/s SHA 256 and 1 MH/s Scrypt. The Scrypt got converted to 1GH/s hashpower in February which really reduced the amount I get back each day but even so, my original contracts cost 0.056 BTC in total and right now I have 0.04189957 BTC back. This is over 75 percent back since September so yes it has taken a long time but I still think it will be less than 600 days as we are not even up to a year yet. The wallet address that I use for my Youtube videos is 18zUcPAXgPPSiU8r6m7mQqfkrcKRcAEEdi so feel free to take a look as every payout mentioned on the videos and also up to today are there for all to see. Here is the address used when I paid for the contracts https://blockchain.info/address/1N8egacjonfZoXxJfHptYAc5V4JPk95X4gAs you can see 0.056 BTC was sent. If the Lifetime Scrypt contracts and Scrypt mining in general had not gone the way it had, it is pretty possible that i would have made ROI by now on these contracts. Ian He did mention my nick in his post so he was writing about my posts as well. I do respect your work and tons of data about cloud mining companies you have provided so I ll stay away this time but I still believe Genesis Mining clients are wasting their money.
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July 14, 2015, 08:05:40 PM |
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I'm amazed about the amount of negativity by some people here. The last year has seen most cloudmining operations to be utter scams. Genesis is one of the few that isn't. It seems logical to me that because they are a legit, viable operation, they cannot pay out the profits that the ponzi schemes did - or at least, what they paid out before they ran off with their user's money. That said, I find the rewards just fine. They are much better then e.g. with Zeushash. They are also MUCH better then you would get with a bank or other investment vessels.
But more importantly, if you believe there are better investments, by all means invest in those but spare us the bitching and moaning please. It's simply annoying to read and adds nothing.
Other issues that are mentioned above have been discussed, just click back a page.
Edit: looking at the banner and the post history of crazyivan, could this negative post be inspired by the wish to direct people to another ponzi scam?
This negative post is inspired by the fact I ve been trying hard for the last year to find A SINGLE PERSON on this forum who has reached ROI with Genesis Mining. Again, A SINGLE PERSON. Have you reached ROI and can you provide evidence of that? Anyone else? If there s no single person who has reached ROI with them, this means this service takes money from their clients and provides next to nothing. True, they are not ponzi, but they are a nice cloud which takes advantage of newbies to take their money and give them very little back. What is the purpose of Genesis Mining if you cannot make money on their cloud? To take money from other people? Ha? As long this is the case, I will post wherever I want and whenever I want, simply to warn people about the level of service they provide. About my banner, I ll show you 200 people who reached ROI with DMD Diamond, especially since the price went up 100% about a week ago and everyone else who s been holding this coin automatically reached ROI. So pls, do share any proof about services I endorse being scam or unprofitable, pls do. Services you endorse, on the other hand, are not scam but they are obviously EXTREMELY unprofitable. I m sure they have at least 20k clients and NOT A SINGLE person reached ROI. Brilliant service, let s all give them our money. Hey Ivan, I think Julian was mainly writing about the posts here recently in general, not just yours. ---Julian, If Crazyivan wants to help promote the advantages of having POS (point of stake coins) and it's benefits then what is the issue? This is what I see mainly in his post history. I think POS is good in many ways and if Ivan wants to let everyone know this, i do not really know what the issue is. Regarding ROI I did write recently that if anyone has been mining Litecoin over time especially with Scrypt 1 year contracts then they might have reached ROI mining Litecoin especially if they sold a few days ago when Litecoin was reaching 7-8 USD each. Even now it is still at 4. If they purchased their contracts in August for example, they could still be mining a nice amount of Litecoin each day all due to the fact that the mining difficulty of Litecoin started dropping quite alot in January and February. Not every GM customer will come here and read this post but I am pretty sure there must be some people out there who must have made ROI. Perhaps they might let you know sometime Ivan. I have reached ROI a long time ago but as I told you, this was with the help of referral hashpower too. But if you are interested, I did do some comparison videos as you will no doubt know from September with 10GH/s SHA 256 and 1 MH/s Scrypt. The Scrypt got converted to 1GH/s hashpower in February which really reduced the amount I get back each day but even so, my original contracts cost 0.056 BTC in total and right now I have 0.04189957 BTC back. This is over 75 percent back since September so yes it has taken a long time but I still think it will be less than 600 days as we are not even up to a year yet. The wallet address that I use for my Youtube videos is 18zUcPAXgPPSiU8r6m7mQqfkrcKRcAEEdi so feel free to take a look as every payout mentioned on the videos and also up to today are there for all to see. Here is the address used when I paid for the contracts https://blockchain.info/address/1N8egacjonfZoXxJfHptYAc5V4JPk95X4gAs you can see 0.056 BTC was sent. If the Lifetime Scrypt contracts and Scrypt mining in general had not gone the way it had, it is pretty possible that i would have made ROI by now on these contracts. Ian He did mention my nick in his post so he was writing about my posts as well. I do respect your work and tons of data about cloud mining companies you have provided so I ll stay away this time but I still believe Genesis Mining clients are wasting their money. Well it is up to you about staying away but I always enjoy reading your posts in other places so just keep up the good work and helping to get people to take a look at POS coins etc and I respect your opinions too Perhaps on day 599 I can tell you I reached ROI a day early or something haha Its going to be interesting to see
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July 14, 2015, 08:13:09 PM |
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He did mention my nick in his post so he was writing about my posts as well.
Yes, which is why I wrote what I did about that too Ian
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