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September 13, 2014, 07:15:21 PM |
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"However, since mixing can only be between nodes that are currently making private payments, this gives rise to two underlying scenarios that could limit this capacity:"
wasn't the first plan that every xc app would be a mixer and that you only could earn transaction fees if there are xxx XC in it?
i can't understand the quoted sentence above because even with the xmixer there might be the problem that there are too few xmixers online at any given time so that transactions could be cancelled.
can someone explain that to me please, the fact why the wallet is now divided into "normal app" + "xmixer".
thank you!
+1. And what also bothers me is that you have to keep your coins online. You don't have to be a XMixer you know? The choice is yours... a) you want to earn fees, leave it 1000 per wallet online and be a XMixer b) you just want to stake, then just unlock wallet once in a while c) you don't give a crap, cold storage offline only |
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Herbix
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September 13, 2014, 07:22:06 PM |
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Ok i've just made my first two private transactions with xc whooohohohoooooooooooooooo.
It worked with 1 and 2 xcs now I will try 5 and let you know if it is working... at the beginning wasn't working with 5
And my mixer seems to be doing something.  After how long that you have set it up? and how many connections do you have? 2 days or so, 27 connections. thank you do you need to transfer the 1000 xcs before or after setting up the mixer? how much payment are you receiving for the moment? Is the wallet unlocked? does it need to be? I transferred after setting up the mixer. It seems to be 0.006505 for my first mixing, for some reason xc block explorer shows different (smaller) balance compared to my XC mixer wallet. Wallet is unlocked as atcsecure said it needs to be unlocked for current release. do we need to unlock the wallet when started with -distmix-autonode? yes in this current release |
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September 13, 2014, 07:22:34 PM |
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Also all In  and proud to setup a xmixer soon |
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cryptico
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September 13, 2014, 07:27:33 PM |
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Ok i've just made my first two private transactions with xc whooohohohoooooooooooooooo.
It worked with 1 and 2 xcs now I will try 5 and let you know if it is working... at the beginning wasn't working with 5
My 5 xc transaction is not failing but not going trough either....it is processing since 30 minutes... anyone got the same? |
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Reese212
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September 13, 2014, 07:37:56 PM |
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"However, since mixing can only be between nodes that are currently making private payments, this gives rise to two underlying scenarios that could limit this capacity:"
wasn't the first plan that every xc app would be a mixer and that you only could earn transaction fees if there are xxx XC in it?
i can't understand the quoted sentence above because even with the xmixer there might be the problem that there are too few xmixers online at any given time so that transactions could be cancelled.
can someone explain that to me please, the fact why the wallet is now divided into "normal app" + "xmixer".
thank you!
+1. And what also bothers me is that you have to keep your coins online. You don't have to be a XMixer you know? The choice is yours... a) you want to earn fees, leave it 1000 per wallet online and be a XMixer b) you just want to stake, then just unlock wallet once in a while c) you don't give a crap, cold storage offline only well ok the choice is mine. but the question still is the same: why do i have the choice? wouldn't it be better if every wallet is forced to be a xmixer to have more nodes and therefore a more decentralised transaction so that the problem described in the pdf "introducing xmixer" won't occur (or in better words: is more likely to not occur)? i'm pretty sure that it has a special reason why the wallet is divided into "normal wallet" + "xmixer". this is what i'm asking :-) |
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tr8kr
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September 13, 2014, 07:43:42 PM |
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"However, since mixing can only be between nodes that are currently making private payments, this gives rise to two underlying scenarios that could limit this capacity:"
wasn't the first plan that every xc app would be a mixer and that you only could earn transaction fees if there are xxx XC in it?
i can't understand the quoted sentence above because even with the xmixer there might be the problem that there are too few xmixers online at any given time so that transactions could be cancelled.
can someone explain that to me please, the fact why the wallet is now divided into "normal app" + "xmixer".
thank you!
+1. And what also bothers me is that you have to keep your coins online. You don't have to be a XMixer you know? The choice is yours... a) you want to earn fees, leave it 1000 per wallet online and be a XMixer b) you just want to stake, then just unlock wallet once in a while c) you don't give a crap, cold storage offline only well ok the choice is mine. but the question still is the same: why do i have the choice? wouldn't it be better if every wallet is forced to be a xmixer to have more nodes and therefore a more decentralised transaction so that the problem described in the pdf "introducing xmixer" won't occur (or in better words: is more likely to not occur)? i'm pretty sure that it has a special reason why the wallet is divided into "normal wallet" + "xmixer". this is what i'm asking :-) Because with normal xnode wallet you can fall on a situation where there is not enough money in a lonely xnode to mix the transaction ,with a xmixer you are sure that there is some dedicated xnode (xmixer) to handle big transaction on the network that's all |
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September 13, 2014, 07:44:10 PM |
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"However, since mixing can only be between nodes that are currently making private payments, this gives rise to two underlying scenarios that could limit this capacity:"
wasn't the first plan that every xc app would be a mixer and that you only could earn transaction fees if there are xxx XC in it?
i can't understand the quoted sentence above because even with the xmixer there might be the problem that there are too few xmixers online at any given time so that transactions could be cancelled.
can someone explain that to me please, the fact why the wallet is now divided into "normal app" + "xmixer".
thank you!
+1. And what also bothers me is that you have to keep your coins online. You don't have to be a XMixer you know? The choice is yours... a) you want to earn fees, leave it 1000 per wallet online and be a XMixer b) you just want to stake, then just unlock wallet once in a while c) you don't give a crap, cold storage offline only well ok the choice is mine. but the question still is the same: why do i have the choice? wouldn't it be better if every wallet is forced to be a xmixer to have more nodes and therefore a more decentralised transaction so that the problem described in the pdf "introducing xmixer" won't occur (or in better words: is more likely to not occur)? i'm pretty sure that it has a special reason why the wallet is divided into "normal wallet" + "xmixer". this is what i'm asking :-) When your wallet is functioning as a Xmixer, the coin's move around quite fast. This resets your coin age, eg: no more staking. Your coins, your choice |
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Herbix
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September 13, 2014, 07:57:03 PM |
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Ok i've just made my first two private transactions with xc whooohohohoooooooooooooooo.
It worked with 1 and 2 xcs now I will try 5 and let you know if it is working... at the beginning wasn't working with 5
And my mixer seems to be doing something. After how long that you have set it up? and how many connections do you have? 2 days or so, 27 connections. thank you do you need to transfer the 1000 xcs before or after setting up the mixer? how much payment are you receiving for the moment? Is the wallet unlocked? does it need to be? I transferred after setting up the mixer. It seems to be 0.006505 for my first mixing, for some reason xc block explorer shows different (smaller) balance compared to my XC mixer wallet. Wallet is unlocked as atcsecure said it needs to be unlocked for current release. Ah, mixed coins created new addresses in my wallet so that's why block explorer doesn't see the correct balance  And it seems that this test release doesn't pay anything for mixing yet, actually it seems that mixing dropped my balance with -0.00001 XC. |
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cryptico
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September 13, 2014, 08:03:20 PM |
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Ok i've just made my first two private transactions with xc whooohohohoooooooooooooooo.
It worked with 1 and 2 xcs now I will try 5 and let you know if it is working... at the beginning wasn't working with 5
And my mixer seems to be doing something. After how long that you have set it up? and how many connections do you have? 2 days or so, 27 connections. thank you do you need to transfer the 1000 xcs before or after setting up the mixer? how much payment are you receiving for the moment? Is the wallet unlocked? does it need to be? I transferred after setting up the mixer. It seems to be 0.006505 for my first mixing, for some reason xc block explorer shows different (smaller) balance compared to my XC mixer wallet. Wallet is unlocked as atcsecure said it needs to be unlocked for current release. Ah, mixed coins created new addresses in my wallet so that's why block explorer doesn't see the correct balance And it seems that this test release doesn't pay anything for mixing yet, actually it seems that mixing dropped my balance with -0.00001 XC. My 5 XC transaction is still sucked at processing after one hour.. |
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Herbix
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September 13, 2014, 08:10:50 PM |
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My 5 XC transaction is still sucked at processing after one hour..
I just tested 5 XC private transaction, it went through successfully in 3 minutes with 12 active connections. |
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cryptico
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September 13, 2014, 08:12:18 PM |
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My 5 XC transaction is still sucked at processing after one hour..
I just tested 5 XC private transaction, it went through successfully in 3 minutes with 12 active connections. I can send one and 2 xcs no prob.. not 5... how many coins do you have in the wallet? |
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Artoodeetoo
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September 13, 2014, 08:16:05 PM |
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Is the era of cheap xc coming to an end?
The era of expensive xc is just beginning...
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DASH #DashDC #DashIntoDigitalCash
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Reese212
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September 13, 2014, 08:25:01 PM |
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well ok the choice is mine.
but the question still is the same: why do i have the choice? wouldn't it be better if every wallet is forced to be a xmixer to have more nodes and therefore a more decentralised transaction so that the problem described in the pdf "introducing xmixer" won't occur (or in better words: is more likely to not occur)?
i'm pretty sure that it has a special reason why the wallet is divided into "normal wallet" + "xmixer". this is what i'm asking :-)
Because with normal xnode wallet you can fall on a situation where there is not enough money in a lonely xnode to mix the transaction ,with a xmixer you are sure that there is some dedicated xnode (xmixer) to handle big transaction on the network that's all Ah ok i see, that makes sense. Thank you! I thought that, if that would happen, the app knows that the amount inside is too small and will communicate with other apps and split the whole transaction amount in another way. Thanks for explaining! |
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Herbix
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September 13, 2014, 08:26:59 PM |
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My 5 XC transaction is still sucked at processing after one hour..
I just tested 5 XC private transaction, it went through successfully in 3 minutes with 12 active connections. I can send one and 2 xcs no prob.. not 5... how many coins do you have in the wallet? 100 XC. Have you tried enabling coin control? Settings -> Options -> Display -> Display coin control features (experts only!) Then you should see Coin control features on your Send tab. Click inputs and select one with more than 5 XC and try again. I sent private transaction back to my wallet and the coins mysteriously disappeared from block explorer balance |
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Reese212
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September 13, 2014, 08:29:54 PM |
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well ok the choice is mine.
but the question still is the same: why do i have the choice? wouldn't it be better if every wallet is forced to be a xmixer to have more nodes and therefore a more decentralised transaction so that the problem described in the pdf "introducing xmixer" won't occur (or in better words: is more likely to not occur)?
i'm pretty sure that it has a special reason why the wallet is divided into "normal wallet" + "xmixer". this is what i'm asking :-)
When your wallet is functioning as a Xmixer, the coin's move around quite fast. This resets your coin age, eg: no more staking. Your coins, your choice Thank you too for explaining! That, of course, also makes sense to me. I forgot that this was discussed in the beginning of XC, the plan was that the formerly 550XC for being a node (or nowadays a xmixer) can't stake but that the transaction fees would be the same or maybe more than if you had your coins staking. Well and this xmixer-feature is the technical solution. Sometimes I need a bit longer to get things right in my head.... Thank you! |
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cryptico
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September 13, 2014, 08:33:51 PM |
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My 5 XC transaction is still sucked at processing after one hour..
I just tested 5 XC private transaction, it went through successfully in 3 minutes with 12 active connections. I can send one and 2 xcs no prob.. not 5... how many coins do you have in the wallet? 100 XC. Have you tried enabling coin control? Settings -> Options -> Display -> Display coin control features (experts only!) Then you should see Coin control features on your Send tab. Click inputs and select one with more than 5 XC and try again. I sent private transaction back to my wallet and the coins mysteriously disappeared from block explorer balance Yes I had coin control active in my wallet but did not try that i'll try it now. |
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mr_random
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September 13, 2014, 08:49:34 PM |
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Teka (OP)
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September 13, 2014, 08:50:41 PM |
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CryptoGretzky
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September 13, 2014, 08:52:34 PM |
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Scary how Cryptsy can't even handle simple things like this for so long. |
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tr8kr
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September 13, 2014, 08:54:15 PM |
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