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June 11, 2014, 06:00:21 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.
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June 11, 2014, 06:01:02 PM
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did you find out sender address before evtrmm post the address?

be straightforward

you still believe hes honest
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June 11, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.
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June 11, 2014, 06:01:16 PM
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https://evaltech-my.sharepoint.com/personal/allen_eval-tech_com/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?guestaccesstoken=FUJ7tBTUM8R3KMU2hAwba293Jah2leGT2%2bkg%2fp%2fdFX0%3d&docid=1b12fbf2d34bd495aa8d86071dfff2742

zipped file.
PW protected.
MD5 included

"sendfrommixer" MAIN XV49MnmtTirtZSQ2jtgisvNhNr6DduzCNu 2.2

---FROMADDRESS??


EDIT: Being that there seems to be a conflict on BOTH sides here, I have included an MD5 in a PW protected zipfile that is uploaded to my sharepoint site.



PW for Zip- OutgoingXCTransaction

You have 7 tx.

follow input of http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96074.htm

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?82113.htm


The address he posted doesn't match your "guess".. regardless this was just a 1 off transaction .. we can organize a valid test with bounty


Please do so.  This back and forth is really annoying.
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June 11, 2014, 06:01:44 PM
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The address he posted doesn't match your "guess".. regardless this was just a 1 off transaction .. we can organize a valid test with bounty


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June 11, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened
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June 11, 2014, 06:03:17 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened


plus his guess was wrong.. so enough already

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June 11, 2014, 06:03:34 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.


The developer claims the transactions cant be tracked.  chaeplin claims he can track them.

One is right. One is wrong.  We need to find out which.  Trust the developer is bullshit when the claims are easily verifiable with proof.  The best way to earn trust is to back it up with actual verifiable facts.
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June 11, 2014, 06:04:29 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.


The developer claims the transactions cant be tracked.  chaeplin claims he can track them.

One is right. One is wrong.  We need to find out which.  Trust the developer is bullshit when the claims are easily verifiable with proof.  The best way to earn trust is to back it up with actual verifiable facts.


and he guess'd wrong on this 1 off transaction test..


Plus I didn't see any proof of anything


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June 11, 2014, 06:05:34 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened


plus his guess was wrong.. so enough already

Stop with the bullshit semantics.  that "test" wasnt clearly laid out, and "no you didnt guess right" isnt anything other that you typing words.  

Crypto is full of bullshit claims.  prove up or shut up
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June 11, 2014, 06:06:50 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.


The developer claims the transactions cant be tracked.  chaeplin claims he can track them.

One is right. One is wrong.  We need to find out which.  Trust the developer is bullshit when the claims are easily verifiable with proof.  The best way to earn trust is to back it up with actual verifiable facts.


and he guess'd wrong on this 1 off transaction test..


Plus I didn't see any proof of anything



It wasnt proof of anything. that was my point.  

Set up a test and bounty that will actually prove something
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June 11, 2014, 06:07:10 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened


plus his guess was wrong.. so enough already

Stop with the bullshit semantics.  that "test" wasnt clearly laid out, and "no you didnt guess right" isnt anything other that you typing words.  

Crypto is full of bullshit claims.  prove up or shut up

I don't need to prove anything, in fact I wasn't involved w/ this test at all.. a user posted his side of the transaction and it didn't match Chaeplans guess


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June 11, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
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did you find out sender address before evtrmm post the address?

be straightforward

Yes. XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw is his address.
      XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw is part of account MAIN.
      XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw is change address.

He never sent using XM~~~YuQ.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?XM4f4GbzaCnMphTKitAYMSX8vdkUPrwYuQ.htm

has zero balance.

Code:
Details for Address XM4f4Gbz...
Address XM4f4GbzaCnMphTKitAYMSX8vdkUPrwYuQ
Balance 0.0 XC
Rich List N/A
Guesstimated Wallet none
Received 25.0 XC 1 transactions (1 vins) in 1 transactions (1 vins)
Sent 25.0 XC in 1 transactions (1 vouts)

 
Transactions
Hash Block Date/Time Amount Balance
00e97deb22... 24528 2014-6-4 00:25:47 + 25.0 XC 25.0 XC
79047709d2... 24530 2014-6-4 00:30:46 - 25.0 XC 0.0 XC



http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?96074.htm
->
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?82117.htm
->
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?82115.htm
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http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?82113.htm


I am out.

It's up to you all.
 
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June 11, 2014, 06:08:24 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened


plus his guess was wrong.. so enough already

Stop with the bullshit semantics.  that "test" wasnt clearly laid out, and "no you didnt guess right" isnt anything other that you typing words.  

Crypto is full of bullshit claims.  prove up or shut up

I don't need to prove anything, in fact I wasn't involved w/ this test at all.. a user posted his side of the transaction and didn't match Chaeplans guess



Do you agree that the technology should be able to prove it does what the developer claims that it does?
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June 11, 2014, 06:08:35 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.


The developer claims the transactions cant be tracked.  chaeplin claims he can track them.

One is right. One is wrong.  We need to find out which.  Trust the developer is bullshit when the claims are easily verifiable with proof.  The best way to earn trust is to back it up with actual verifiable facts.

he never proved it , NEVER. We need to find out shit. we need to decide which coin we buy and live with it. thats all WE need to do. this coin has the most responsive dev and as a reward he gets constantly questioned like no other i ever seen. If you value Chaps opinion so much pay him for the prove of link and post it here or leave and ask him for investment advice. hint: DRK
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June 11, 2014, 06:09:26 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened


plus his guess was wrong.. so enough already

Stop with the bullshit semantics.  that "test" wasnt clearly laid out, and "no you didnt guess right" isnt anything other that you typing words.  

Crypto is full of bullshit claims.  prove up or shut up
The dev has set a clearly defined test for Chaeplin.

Now Chaeplin goes silent cos he knows the dev has set a test which cannot be cheated.

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June 11, 2014, 06:09:32 PM
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did you find out sender address before evtrmm post the address?

be straightforward

Yes. XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw is his address.
      XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw is part of account MAIN.
      XQaYnWevqYVfg7j75qr2YR38R3xbb5xjyw is change address.

He never sent using XM~~~YuQ.

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/address.dws?XM4f4GbzaCnMphTKitAYMSX8vdkUPrwYuQ.htm

has zero balance.

Code:
Details for Address XM4f4Gbz...
Address XM4f4GbzaCnMphTKitAYMSX8vdkUPrwYuQ
Balance 0.0 XC
Rich List N/A
Guesstimated Wallet none
Received 25.0 XC 1 transactions (1 vins) in 1 transactions (1 vins)
Sent 25.0 XC in 1 transactions (1 vouts)

 
Transactions
Hash Block Date/Time Amount Balance
00e97deb22... 24528 2014-6-4 00:25:47 + 25.0 XC 25.0 XC
79047709d2... 24530 2014-6-4 00:30:46 - 25.0 XC 0.0 XC


I am out.

It's up to you all.
 

This is why this needs to be verified.  Some dude lying about the sending address isnt proof.
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June 11, 2014, 06:09:37 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!

Not really.  No other coin is publicly testing.

we don't even have rev2 yet, atc always made clear that atm it was about proving a link and it never happened


plus his guess was wrong.. so enough already

Stop with the bullshit semantics.  that "test" wasnt clearly laid out, and "no you didnt guess right" isnt anything other that you typing words.  

Crypto is full of bullshit claims.  prove up or shut up

I don't need to prove anything, in fact I wasn't involved w/ this test at all.. a user posted his side of the transaction and didn't match Chaeplans guess



Do you agree that the technology should be able to prove it does what the developer claims that it does?


I think Chaeplan has proved that for us..

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June 11, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.


The developer claims the transactions cant be tracked.  chaeplin claims he can track them.

One is right. One is wrong.  We need to find out which.  Trust the developer is bullshit when the claims are easily verifiable with proof.  The best way to earn trust is to back it up with actual verifiable facts.

You seem to go round all the anon coins leaving FUD, really productive...

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June 11, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
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I think it is time for atcsecure to back his claims with a real BTC bounty.

I understand some of the nuance of the technology (by no means am I an expert), but I know semantic games when I see them.  Lay out a verifiable challenge, and see if chaeplin can deliver.  

Stop with all of this "that is only part of the answer" bullshit.  Set up a very concise challenge and see.

Anyone here should be demanding the same!
No, do not agree. Trust the Dev, he delivered so far and is at the moment the only one who knows his code well enough. Patients, that test will be there one day & Chaeplin is not the only one that needs to check it.


The developer claims the transactions cant be tracked.  chaeplin claims he can track them.

One is right. One is wrong.  We need to find out which.  Trust the developer is bullshit when the claims are easily verifiable with proof.  The best way to earn trust is to back it up with actual verifiable facts.

he never proved it , NEVER. We need to find out shit. we need to decide which coin we buy and live with it. thats all WE need to do. this coin has the most responsive dev and as a reward he gets constantly questioned like no other i ever seen. If you value Chaps opinion so much pay him for the prove of link and post it here or leave and ask him for investment advice. hint: DRK
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