[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[evtrmm]

one more per ATC

[brother3]

If someone just wants to answer me via PM, that's fine.

Teka feel free to delete the last page of posts, I am totally ok with it. I was sort of hoping someone would explain to me how Cryptsy (USA) and Mintpal (UK) are getting along just fine as they almost act like "giant nodes" for exchanges in a sense, maybe (I'm not sure if the trail can be lost through an exchange).

If you are such a sissy why get involved in crypto at all? Go sell potatoes.

Made a fortune in that so now he is in Crypto  

[wevus]

Is there a block explorer? Because anyone can just put sending address "Unknown" With a simple method in the wallet.

This on testnet only, you will be able to test it yourself.

No, you don't understand what I'm saying. Without a block explorer for testnet, it's trivial to display "Unknown" in the Transaction Details page.

To fully analyze the transaction to see if it actually is anonymous, you need a block explorer.

If anyone wants to make a testnet block explorer they can, I will message someone right now

Didn't see this.  This is great news.  It's unfortunate that there's so much suspicion floating around.  If this was any other coin the price would be going through the roof right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJQNMqVIug&list=PL0b-TccFsDE64tcsJBtnf3atVhhK0wSaM

[Profetu]

look at posted data, it answers all your questions

Dev, out of everyone here, you know its simple to simply replace the Sent From field to "unknown" with a string.

A block explorer for Testnet is the only way to verify that it functions.
Without it, at the moment, the sent from field could be forged.

Ok, but can you split transactions ?

[Junkey]

is XC and X11 the same coin?

Yes, started as x11 coin.  Now it's just called XC.

[chaeplin]

Testing trust centralized address switch mixer


comment by community

Wow, I can't believe it's actually happening..
Good work....prepare your self's for tonight rally  Grin
Well, this is news.... happy Friday! Smiley


How it woks,  
: want send to b using mixer(trusted).

split amount(2 ~ many times) --> send to mixer address a/random ---> mixer send to b




Look forward to aka Rev 2.

[evtrmm]

im gonna tweet some of these pics.

[Grifftech]

Btw is there a comand to stop staking and get all coins back to the balance?

What do you mean? How did you move your coins out of the Balance? Is that what you need to do to stake??

[mapsi]

Im looking for info on how to stake or any help setting it up. Would one of the fine members of the XC community help me?

[candl]

Let me guess the outcome. "Trusted" community members are going to conclude that the implementation works remarkably well, followed by a bunch of screenshots, tweets and blog posts. Regular Joe however won't get access to any instructions or wallet to verify that himself.

So to prove that this is sketchy let's take evtrmm's screenshot as reference:

one more per ATC
http://bammine.com/images/test4.JPG

launch wallet in testnet
> qtx11coin-qt.exe -testnet

launch debug window after syncing

type

> gettransaction f7fabf4bad77f39ecf833cf4b45eb371d41bf57f49c3ef05113ebf2f268ce73a

it's going to list the transaction info in json

{
  "txid": "f7fabf4bad77f39ecf833cf4b45eb371d41bf57f49c3ef05113ebf2f268ce73a",
  "version": 1,
  "time": 1401474653,
  "locktime": 0,
  "vin": [
    {
      "txid": "d9b24d42f453c360ca48a81903f870eebaacf7e1e8250c10a58b67ea6a39ed5d",
      "vout": 0,
      "scriptSig": {
        "asm": "3046022100bad59b019c4c608b035f1981ee77f2412f897358a505e298754178995518225f02210 0b5d9f86172846052ebd6e554fb5eb66b08ea3ca38a6dac5be6f991adf0a5590501 02b63c16b0e918c690c218494511866c560ba66ed227199334ccac9534e3740706",
        "hex": "493046022100bad59b019c4c608b035f1981ee77f2412f897358a505e298754178995518225f022 100b5d9f86172846052ebd6e554fb5eb66b08ea3ca38a6dac5be6f991adf0a55905012102b63c16 b0e918c690c218494511866c560ba66ed227199334ccac9534e3740706"
      },
      "sequence": 4294967295
    }
  ],
  "vout": [
    {
      "value": 789.170554,
      "n": 0,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 b0921e5ffc3ff824b3e572af580e7e7cc7ee5d9a OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a914b0921e5ffc3ff824b3e572af580e7e7cc7ee5d9a88ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "mwcaGKQNeJGuaan2m1YQHfSoYJQV3ykiu5"
        ]
      }
    },
    {
      "value": 10.508227,
      "n": 1,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 56c688c361d217cb62729f4d5131ce0e712cf2b6 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a91456c688c361d217cb62729f4d5131ce0e712cf2b688ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "moRnEx9drbUXfzmpWUTj2woMkv1mSTbAYD"
        ]
      }
    }
  ],
  "blockhash": "000004f7a1466d9d84b7a9c4ff76b5f02cb4dc1474070ba8c5159e8ea64ebdf1",
  "confirmations": 75,
  "txntime": 1401474619
}

As you can see you can clearly see the values and addresses, so all the wallet does is replacing the sent from text field as 'unknown' in the GUI ... genius really.
With a proper block explorer one could hop around, otherwise it's inconvinient so most people won't even verify it in the wallet.

[Propulsion]

Let me guess the outcome. "Trusted" community members are going to conclude that the implementation works remarkably well, followed by a bunch of screenshots, tweets and blog posts. Regular Joe however won't get access to any instructions or wallet to verify that himself.

So to prove that this is sketchy let's take evtrmm's screenshot as reference:

one more per ATC

launch wallet in testnet
> qtx11coin-qt.exe -testnet

launch debug window after syncing

type

> gettransaction f7fabf4bad77f39ecf833cf4b45eb371d41bf57f49c3ef05113ebf2f268ce73a

it's going to list the transaction info in json

{
  "txid": "f7fabf4bad77f39ecf833cf4b45eb371d41bf57f49c3ef05113ebf2f268ce73a",
  "version": 1,
  "time": 1401474653,
  "locktime": 0,
  "vin": [
    {
      "txid": "d9b24d42f453c360ca48a81903f870eebaacf7e1e8250c10a58b67ea6a39ed5d",
      "vout": 0,
      "scriptSig": {
        "asm": "3046022100bad59b019c4c608b035f1981ee77f2412f897358a505e298754178995518225f02210 0b5d9f86172846052ebd6e554fb5eb66b08ea3ca38a6dac5be6f991adf0a5590501 02b63c16b0e918c690c218494511866c560ba66ed227199334ccac9534e3740706",
        "hex": "493046022100bad59b019c4c608b035f1981ee77f2412f897358a505e298754178995518225f022 100b5d9f86172846052ebd6e554fb5eb66b08ea3ca38a6dac5be6f991adf0a55905012102b63c16 b0e918c690c218494511866c560ba66ed227199334ccac9534e3740706"
      },
      "sequence": 4294967295
    }
  ],
  "vout": [
    {
      "value": 789.170554,
      "n": 0,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 b0921e5ffc3ff824b3e572af580e7e7cc7ee5d9a OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a914b0921e5ffc3ff824b3e572af580e7e7cc7ee5d9a88ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "mwcaGKQNeJGuaan2m1YQHfSoYJQV3ykiu5"
        ]
      }
    },
    {
      "value": 10.508227,
      "n": 1,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 56c688c361d217cb62729f4d5131ce0e712cf2b6 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a91456c688c361d217cb62729f4d5131ce0e712cf2b688ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "moRnEx9drbUXfzmpWUTj2woMkv1mSTbAYD"
        ]
      }
    }
  ],
  "blockhash": "000004f7a1466d9d84b7a9c4ff76b5f02cb4dc1474070ba8c5159e8ea64ebdf1",
  "confirmations": 75,
  "txntime": 1401474619
}

As you can see you can clearly see the values and addresses, so all the wallet does is replacing the sent from text field as 'unknown' in the GUI ... genius really.
With a proper block explorer one could hop around, otherwise it's inconvinient so most people won't even verify it in the wallet.

That's why I'm asking for a testnet block explorer!
For that exact concern. Thank you for bringing it to everyone's attention.

[insanedumps]

sooo lets do it , bring explorer and we are going to be fixed with that

[chaeplin]

> gettransaction f7fabf4bad77f39ecf833cf4b45eb371d41bf57f49c3ef05113ebf2f268ce73a

Is this right mixer txid ?

Looks like normal one..

He sent 22.

Tx splitted to 11.49 + 10.50.

Hmm - 2x fee.

[ballzdeep]

HOw about you guys open the hood on ur darksend instead of beeing here ?

[DarshUX]

Let me guess the outcome. "Trusted" community members are going to conclude that the implementation works remarkably well, followed by a bunch of screenshots, tweets and blog posts. Regular Joe however won't get access to any instructions or wallet to verify that himself.

So to prove that this is sketchy let's take evtrmm's screenshot as reference:

one more per ATC
http://bammine.com/images/test4.JPG

launch wallet in testnet
> qtx11coin-qt.exe -testnet

launch debug window after syncing

type

> gettransaction f7fabf4bad77f39ecf833cf4b45eb371d41bf57f49c3ef05113ebf2f268ce73a

it's going to list the transaction info in json

{
  "txid": "f7fabf4bad77f39ecf833cf4b45eb371d41bf57f49c3ef05113ebf2f268ce73a",
  "version": 1,
  "time": 1401474653,
  "locktime": 0,
  "vin": [
    {
      "txid": "d9b24d42f453c360ca48a81903f870eebaacf7e1e8250c10a58b67ea6a39ed5d",
      "vout": 0,
      "scriptSig": {
        "asm": "3046022100bad59b019c4c608b035f1981ee77f2412f897358a505e298754178995518225f02210 0b5d9f86172846052ebd6e554fb5eb66b08ea3ca38a6dac5be6f991adf0a5590501 02b63c16b0e918c690c218494511866c560ba66ed227199334ccac9534e3740706",
        "hex": "493046022100bad59b019c4c608b035f1981ee77f2412f897358a505e298754178995518225f022 100b5d9f86172846052ebd6e554fb5eb66b08ea3ca38a6dac5be6f991adf0a55905012102b63c16 b0e918c690c218494511866c560ba66ed227199334ccac9534e3740706"
      },
      "sequence": 4294967295
    }
  ],
  "vout": [
    {
      "value": 789.170554,
      "n": 0,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 b0921e5ffc3ff824b3e572af580e7e7cc7ee5d9a OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a914b0921e5ffc3ff824b3e572af580e7e7cc7ee5d9a88ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "mwcaGKQNeJGuaan2m1YQHfSoYJQV3ykiu5"
        ]
      }
    },
    {
      "value": 10.508227,
      "n": 1,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "OP_DUP OP_HASH160 56c688c361d217cb62729f4d5131ce0e712cf2b6 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG",
        "hex": "76a91456c688c361d217cb62729f4d5131ce0e712cf2b688ac",
        "reqSigs": 1,
        "type": "pubkeyhash",
        "addresses": [
          "moRnEx9drbUXfzmpWUTj2woMkv1mSTbAYD"
        ]
      }
    }
  ],
  "blockhash": "000004f7a1466d9d84b7a9c4ff76b5f02cb4dc1474070ba8c5159e8ea64ebdf1",
  "confirmations": 75,
  "txntime": 1401474619
}

As you can see you can clearly see the values and addresses, so all the wallet does is replacing the sent from text field as 'unknown' in the GUI ... genius really.
With a proper block explorer one could hop around, otherwise it's inconvinient so most people won't even verify it in the wallet.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.  Unless the dev has a reply to this it does seem somewhat fishy.  Nothing against the dev or the XC coin team, but you must understand that people have been burned many times.  I'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt for now.  I'll sell a portion of my holdings now and wait this out.

(Minor crash incoming please don't start panic-ing)

[Grifftech]

How much time does it take to make a testnet block explorer?  Make a bounty and get it going if it shuts people up.  Let's just do it.

Agreed. But you know what will happen next? "UH we need to see the code for the Block Explorer, we think it is manipulating the results"

[JakeThePanda]

How much time does it take to make a testnet block explorer?  Make a bounty and get it going if it shuts people up.  Let's just do it.

Agreed. But you know what will happen next? "UH we need to see the code for the Block Explorer, we think it is manipulating the results"

Let's get a bunch of candidates the community can trust and let's bring it to a vote on someone to do a trusted test.

[dbstmddhks]

what's going on?

[roede94105]

How much time does it take to make a testnet block explorer?  Make a bounty and get it going if it shuts people up.  Let's just do it.

Agreed. But you know what will happen next? "UH we need to see the code for the Block Explorer, we think it is manipulating the results"

Let's get a bunch of candidates the community can trust and let's bring it to a vote on someone to do a trusted test.

Well isn't it released soon anyway? Thought I read the dev say that it would have bugs but would be released

So we'll see for ourselves

[evtrmm]

first thing, we all know this is not a finished product.  period.  it has been stated as such.  

Now the question of making a decentralized anon wallet was in question, so I give you:



I did not initiate this transaction, yet I saw it come through on my laptop here.

no matter what is said, The fact is that the developer is still here, he continues working on the project, and we are FAR from finished.  

Troll on.