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May 31, 2014, 02:30:16 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

They try kill it, and when XC is down, they still dont stop, thats who they are...

Alot of people are still unaware of the fact that XC has already deployed Annon Trans, I have been hitting other new Alt coin pages spreading the word.

Another thing is DRK is an established name, Give it time people will start figuring it out, and the price will explode. I am doing my best to spread the word,,, without any FuD against DRK.

Teka shall contact media to justify what we have reached so far. and all pressures we have taken from fuds and dev finally prove his competence.
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May 31, 2014, 02:33:44 PM
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wouldn't it be a good idea to twitter the proof of anon YouTube Video? this one: http://youtu.be/_uTgnZAFuNU
i'm in love with a Marketing Girl, so sorry for that :-D

Done
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May 31, 2014, 02:35:48 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Xc was subjected to powerful fud by powerful people that can move markets. DRK has not received that level of personal attack by the community. The equivalent would be if the bitcoin foundation started tweeting that DRK is risky and useless.

Xc still stands, buyers will be rewarded.

Are you kidding? A huge part of the xc community kept attacking darkcoin on the forums and on Twitter on every occasion  they got for the past week.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
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May 31, 2014, 02:37:08 PM
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hey all,
I won't say this is off topic as I feel it pertains to both sides.

First, let me say that we hold DRK as well as XC.  Just a lot more XC since we mined it from day 1. 

I am glad the garbage over the last couple days has subsided, as there was never a need for it in the first place.  I have also said this in the XC thread and on Twitter.

I promote the idea that our communities work together and support each other and move on to even bigger things, not for only our fanboy coin, but also for the crypto world in general.  The Coindesk article made both sides look like idiots. 

Both of these coins have great promise, and there are real world applications for both.  It may be true that DRK is further along than XC, but DRK has also been around for much longer.  Kind of like an older brother.

Let's do our best to promote cryptos in general, support innovation, and stop making the community look like a bunch of teenage girls.

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May 31, 2014, 02:37:18 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Xc was subjected to powerful fud by powerful people that can move markets. DRK has not received that level of personal attack by the community. The equivalent would be if the bitcoin foundation started tweeting that DRK is risky and useless.

Xc still stands, buyers will be rewarded.
Nicely said. Anonymity is what the people want, XC is brand new, and everything so far promised, has been delivered. I think everyone in this thread, regardless of their current investments or preferences, is aware that XC is currently undervalued. The price could take off at any moment, as it did before the clash of the twittans.

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May 31, 2014, 02:37:58 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Xc was subjected to powerful fud by powerful people that can move markets. DRK has not received that level of personal attack by the community. The equivalent would be if the bitcoin foundation started tweeting that DRK is risky and useless.

Xc still stands, buyers will be rewarded.

Are you kidding? A huge part of the xc community kept attacking darkcoin on the forums and on Twitter on every occasion  they got for the past week.

No, are you kidding? Xc community is not powerful. That's like a 5 year old punching his dad. DRK has way more ability to damage xc with fud. Go and cry that a child hit you, then beat him with a metal pole bully
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May 31, 2014, 02:38:54 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

I know right. But I also remember that DRK was underpriced for a few weeks before rocketing upwards. The truth and facts will slowly spread. We are in a privileged position right now because we can accumulate these coins whilst they are still underpriced.

Other things to consider:

- the xnode technology of XC is apparently DoS resistant. The DRK dev admits denial of service attacks on the master nodes is a problem that is difficult to resolve.
- The xnode cluster solution is also truly decentralised, no "masternode" or supernode required to communicate Xnodes to clients.
- The traffic is encrypted

^ All of these are just in the first release. Consider that DRK has taken months of consistent development to reach it's current position, we are just starting  Cool
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May 31, 2014, 02:41:32 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

Xc was subjected to powerful fud by powerful people that can move markets. DRK has not received that level of personal attack by the community. The equivalent would be if the bitcoin foundation started tweeting that DRK is risky and useless.

Xc still stands, buyers will be rewarded.

Are you kidding? A huge part of the xc community kept attacking darkcoin on the forums and on Twitter on every occasion  they got for the past week.

MLK quote "I have a dream".. That dream is for both XC and DRK to combine forces. That would be huge and could possibly threaten BTC.

I sold 90% of my DRK, it had nothing to do with the Fud, but I felt and still fell XC is a much better investment at this time. The childish games, and greed are hurting both Coins.

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May 31, 2014, 02:46:01 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

I know right. But I also remember that DRK was underpriced for a few weeks before rocketing upwards. The truth and facts will slowly spread. We are in a privileged position right now because we can accumulate these coins whilst they are still underpriced.

Other things to consider:

- the xnode technology of XC is apparently DoS resistant. The DRK dev admits denial of service attacks on the master nodes is a problem that is difficult to resolve.
- The xnode cluster solution is also truly decentralised, no "masternode" or supernode required to communicate Xnodes to clients.
- The traffic is encrypted

^ All of these are just in the first release. Consider that DRK has taken months of consistent development to reach it's current position, we are just starting  Cool

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May 31, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

I know right. But I also remember that DRK was underpriced for a few weeks before rocketing upwards. The truth and facts will slowly spread. We are in a privileged position right now because we can accumulate these coins whilst they are still underpriced.

Other things to consider:

- the xnode technology of XC is apparently DoS resistant. The DRK dev admits denial of service attacks on the master nodes is a problem that is difficult to resolve.
- The xnode cluster solution is also truly decentralised, no "masternode" or supernode required to communicate Xnodes to clients.
- The traffic is encrypted

^ All of these are just in the first release. Consider that DRK has taken months of consistent development to reach it's current position, we are just starting  Cool
Taking a moment to think about what the Dev has accomplished is really mind blowing, I think it is safe to say XC has the very best Dev in all the ALt world.

What a truly gifted human being. Also feel his team is extraordinary as well, and of course our community is pretty damn good too!

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May 31, 2014, 02:52:32 PM
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Can someone offer some sound advice to a fellow XC brethren?

Should I buy a gpu that hashes around 4 MHS X11 or an asic 1.5 Mhs scrypt miner? Both are about the same price.

Thank you for any input on this

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May 31, 2014, 02:53:39 PM
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Can someone offer some sound advice to a fellow XC brethren?

Should I buy a gpu that hashes around 4 MHS X11 or an asic 1.5 Mhs scrypt miner? Both are about the same price.

Thank you for any input on this

Id take the GPU... Smiley

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May 31, 2014, 02:54:00 PM
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So much anger in this thread. Anyone who feels that their investment is threatened, should adjust appropriately for maximum comfiness. XC is still relatively cheap after all, and it's not backing down. At every turn, it has reaped the satisfaction of defeating every scrutiny, every test and every dump. Anon tx is where it's at, and XC is at the forefront, yet it's price still reflects the FUD. It won't for long.
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May 31, 2014, 02:57:02 PM
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what's with the drop on volumes these days? why is bc going back up? they are leeching our trading volume! Angry
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May 31, 2014, 02:58:44 PM
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Can someone offer some sound advice to a fellow XC brethren?

Should I buy a gpu that hashes around 4 MHS X11 or an asic 1.5 Mhs scrypt miner? Both are about the same price.

Thank you for any input on this

i guess the Advantage of an asic is the less power consumption (even less than running your gpu with x11 algo) right? you Need to create an excelfile to calculate the power consumption, helps to decide.
on the other Hand your gpu has a warranty and can be replaced quite fast (when gridseed showed up there were only couple months warranty and replacing them means shipping them worldwide) and a gpu has a value even if the whole cryptocoin Thing dies tomorrow.
hope that helps. i would buy the gpu.

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May 31, 2014, 02:59:58 PM
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https://twitter.com/AphexTwin4ever/status/472754192411811840    Wink
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May 31, 2014, 03:05:41 PM
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Good to see some price stability.. A base around this level would be welcome, also a much more reasonable debate..

Have a good weekend all.

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May 31, 2014, 03:07:57 PM
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So much anger in this thread. Anyone who feels that their investment is threatened, should adjust appropriately for maximum comfiness. XC is still relatively cheap after all, and it's not backing down. At every turn, it has reaped the satisfaction of defeating every scrutiny, every test and every dump. Anon tx is where it's at, and XC is at the forefront, yet it's price still reflects the FUD. It won't for long.
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Also, the people most understand that XC went from .00000001 to .0049 Basically in a couple of weeks... After a Historic rise, you will have a great fall. This made a lot of people a ton of money, so some are taking profits.

 Look at the RICH; those people on the list are not selling. That should tell you something! This coin is solid.

I have 70K shares and I have not sold 1 for the first time in my Alt experience. Trust me, I bought the last 13K with 50BTC out of my own pocket at over .003! Why? Because I believe in our DEV!

That fact that .002 is the new base is awesome. Getting ready for the next rise!  Grin
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May 31, 2014, 03:08:31 PM
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Can someone offer some sound advice to a fellow XC brethren?

Should I buy a gpu that hashes around 4 MHS X11 or an asic 1.5 Mhs scrypt miner? Both are about the same price.

Thank you for any input on this
What GPU are you talking about and at what price?

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May 31, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
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So I guess I don't really understand how one Twitter post by someone on the DRK team that isn't even true can cause XC to crash, yet DRK is CONFIRMING that they're technology isn't working right, and they might not be able to get it fixed fully until July?  Yet DRK's price continues to rise and XC's doesn't, even though our anon is working.  Just doesn't make sense.

I know right. But I also remember that DRK was underpriced for a few weeks before rocketing upwards. The truth and facts will slowly spread. We are in a privileged position right now because we can accumulate these coins whilst they are still underpriced.

Other things to consider:

- the xnode technology of XC is apparently DoS resistant. The DRK dev admits denial of service attacks on the master nodes is a problem that is difficult to resolve.
- The xnode cluster solution is also truly decentralised, no "masternode" or supernode required to communicate Xnodes to clients.
- The traffic is encrypted

^ All of these are just in the first release. Consider that DRK has taken months of consistent development to reach it's current position, we are just starting  Cool

with also Blockchain2.0 under development.

Let's go to 0.01 Grin

we will reach 0.01 or higher in few weeks,
after we launched the distributed and decentralized Anonymous network on XC coin.




this is only the beginning.

Yes, with Blockchain2.0 under development, everything will be charming in the near future.


some quick start on Bitcoin blockchain2.0:

Bitcoin 2.0: Unleash The Sidechains
“Cryptocurrencies will create a fifth protocol layer powering the next generation of the Internet,” says Naval Ravikant. “Our 2014 fund will be built during the blockchain cycle,”concurs Fred Wilson. And Andreessen Horowitz have very visibly doubled down

“Cryptocurrencies will create a fifth protocol layer powering the next generation of the Internet,” says Naval Ravikant. “Our 2014 fund will be built during the blockchain cycle,”concurs Fred Wilson. And Andreessen Horowitz have very visibly doubled down on Bitcoin.

Even if you don’t believe in Bitcoin as a currency, and I’ll grant there’s plenty to be skeptical about, you should be thinking: huh, a lot of extremely smart and successful people think that its underlying technology is a pretty big deal. But as I wrote myself just a few weeks ago, there’s a big difference between blockchain technology and Bitcoin itself, right?

…Maybe not.

A brief technical refresher: “blockchains” are the distributed-consensus technology introduced to the world by the mysterious Satoshi Nakamoto, wherein a peer-to-peer network is used to codify and cryptographically verify transactions, without any central authority. What’s more, transactions can be orchestrated by programmable contracts.

Bitcoin is both the first and most successful blockchain application, but there are many, many other “cryptocurrencies,” known as “altcoins.” What’s more, there are numerous other, non-currency applications being built on new blockchains, notably Namecoin andEthereum, and several proposals for expanding and evolving Bitcoin itself, eg ZeroCoin,MasterCoin, Colored Coins, etc.

I realize this all sounds like abstruse hair-splitting to those not yet mentally invested in cryptocurrencies; but as Ravikant put it at TC Disrupt seven months ago:

…so, continuing that metaphor, imagine for a moment that it’s 1995 and you’re just beginning to notice that, over the last year or two, those weird crusty techies who sit in the corner have all started talking excitedly about “HTTP” and “HTML” and “cookies” … which apparently power this thing called the “web.”

So. We’ve got Bitcoin and its blockchain; and we’ve got scores if not hundreds of other blockchains, powering various altcoins and Namecoin and (soon) Ethereum et al. But blockchains, like social networks, benefit from a network effect. The most popular becomes the most resilient, the most powerful, the most valuable; and Bitcoin’s blockchain is, by far, the big dog today. These two facts have provoked a certain amount of anti-altcoin vitriol.

On the other hand, other blockchains are where most of the interesting innovation is happening. Namecoin as a DNS replacement; Ethereum as a generic platform for any kind of blockchain technology; hopefully some kind of blockchain replacement for X.509 certificates;SolarCoin for solar power; Dogecoin for those of us who love absurdism for its own sake; etc etc etc. The Bitcoin blockchain, despite/because of the megawatts of power poured into it, has grown sluggish and slow to change, a victim of its own success, which impedes the pace of innovation…

…or so I thought, until I met with Austin Hill and Adam Back. Hill is the former founder and CEO of Zero-Knowledge Systems, a multi-million-dollar startup that was a good 15-20 years ahead of its time; Back is the inventor of the Hashcash algorithm which powers Bitcoin. They have considerable credibility, in other words — and they’re building a stealth “Blockchain 2.0″ startup, based in part on the notion of “sidechains.”

Sidechains are new blockchains which are backed by Bitcoins, via Bitcoin contracts, just as dollars and pounds used to be backed by cold hard gold. You could in principle have thousands of sidechains “pegged” to Bitcoin, all with different characteristics and purposes … and all of them taking advantage of the scarcity and resilience guaranteed by the main Bitcoin blockchain, which in turn could iterate to implement experimental sidechain features once they have been tried and tested.

If sidechains take off, though — which will require some changes to the core Bitcoin protocol— this probably bodes ill for the existing altcoins. Not surprisingly, the proposal has attracted a fair amount of skepticism, not least from Vitalik Buterin, the chief scientist of Ethereum, who argues that sidechains require not just protocol changes but “the permission and active assistance of 50% of all Bitcoin mining pool operators.”

Why should you care? Two main reasons. One: because if Ravikant, Wilson, Andreessen, Hill, Back, etc. are correct, then in the long run, blockchain-backed cryptocurrencies could become the substrate of entire economies. Hill says: “I want to build a blockchain that could support a nation-state putting its national currency and phasing out paper dollars.”

Or, as A16Z’s Balaji Srinivasan describes a different-but-similarly-ambitious notion:

Two: because, as Hill said to me,

Never mind “don’t be evil”; we want to build a company that actually can’t be evil.

…by which he means, an organization which is limited by contractual obligations built into and enforced by its blockchain(s).

The distributed nature of Bitcoin has caused people to speculate about autonomous corporations powered by blockchains, which sounds like a creepy Kafka-meets-Gibson notion if I ever heard one. On the other hand, a company which committed to behaving in a particular way, not with a mere promise, but with an enforceable and cryptographically ironclad contract, might be much worthier of the public’s trust than your standard amoral corporation.

This is, of course, all highly speculative verging on cloud-cuckoo-land until people actually start shipping code which turns these notions into reality. What interests me most about sidechains is that, if implemented, they might bring that day closer, by aiding and accelerating the entire ecosystem of blockchain innovation. And I’m awfully curious about what Hill and Back still have up their sleeve (no, they didn’t tell me.) Interesting times indeed.

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