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[greyskies]

Trust me when I say media attention is not really desirable while the "nodes-can-steal-money" issue remains.

You are a sad, sad man.

[zetent]

Trust me when I say media attention is not really desirable while the "nodes-can-steal-money" issue remains.

Atcsecure already said dynamic trust system will prevent bad actors from stealing. Are you more or as qualified as him to present an argument opposing this? If so, let's hear it. Because all I've seen you do is offer up ungrounded "thesis statements" with no supporting arguments.  Not trying to troll, but I'd like to see a solid argument of why you oppose atcsecures method. Until then, nothing you say holds any water.

The thing that makes me wary with this statement is that one could potentially abuse this to get good rep, before deciding to steal. How is this avoided?

[stealth923]

So ATCSecure puts out another test for what 1-2 hours, then when no-one responds he proclaims "Yes its secure and anonymous". Get real....

As others have said put out a real reward to the community 5-10btc and leave it for 1 week and see what happens when you attract the attention of people that do real block-chain analysis. Are you confident enough to risk the death of the coin on it at this point? If not then you obviously have more work to do this this space.

ATC you seem like you are rushing through things saying you are wrapping up Rev1 as "there's not much time" - anonymity is NOT A JOKE, it takes time to get right as the number of attack vectors is HUGE - take the time to listen to the community, have in depth technical discussions....people are screaming around you with red flags and you keep pushing forward with business plans, ATMs and VISA cards etc.

[jasinlee]

That is not what he said, and you are misconstruing what is being said. Try reading the previous pages.

What was pointed out is that the current system disconnects the inputs/outputs. That is the most important step, and has been accomplished already before the rest of the project is done. Thus, it is a success. If you feel this is incorrect, there is a bounty to find a string of tx or even 1 that ties to the original.

[Teka]

[tr8kr]

So ATCSecure puts out another test for what 1-2 hours, then when no-one responds he proclaims "Yes its secure and anonymous". Get real....

As others have said put out a real reward to the community 5-10btc and leave it for 1 week and see what happens when you attract the attention of people that do real block-chain analysis. Are you confident enough to risk the death of the coin on it at this point? If not then you obviously have more work to do this this space.

ATC you seem like you are rushing through things saying you are wrapping up Rev1 as "there's not much time" - anonymity is NOT A JOKE, it takes time to get right as the number of attack vectors is HUGE - take the time to listen to the community, have in depth technical discussions....people are screaming around you with red flags and you keep pushing forward with business plans, ATMs and VISA cards etc.

Go help your dev he need you for pay hirocoin dev fork your masternode.
Have a nice day !

[battbot]

That is not what he said, and you are misconstruing what is being said. Try reading the previous pages.

What was pointed out is that the current system disconnects the inputs/outputs. That is the most important step, and has been accomplished already before the rest of the project is done. Thus, it is a success. If you feel this is incorrect, there is a bounty to find a string of tx or even 1 that ties to the original.

Seriously, it is the same 2-3 DRK trolls always posting FUD.  Just go look at how often / positively they comment on the DRK thread.  And then read their XC posts.  Agenda much?  They take everything out of context and jump on any chance they get to display the harshest criticism towards atcsecure.  It's getting old.

[synechist]

So ATCSecure puts out another test for what 1-2 hours, then when no-one responds he proclaims "Yes its secure and anonymous". Get real....

As others have said put out a real reward to the community 5-10btc and leave it for 1 week and see what happens when you attract the attention of people that do real block-chain analysis. Are you confident enough to risk the death of the coin on it at this point? If not then you obviously have more work to do this this space.

ATC you seem like you are rushing through things saying you are wrapping up Rev1 as "there's not much time" - anonymity is NOT A JOKE, it takes time to get right as the number of attack vectors is HUGE - take the time to listen to the community, have in depth technical discussions....people are screaming around you with red flags and you keep pushing forward with business plans, ATMs and VISA cards etc.

Unless I'm mistaken the idea of a 5-10BTC bounty will probably be implemented in the near future. It's not a matter of ATCSecure rushing through this aspect of development; it's a matter of implementing the coin as specified and then testing it, presumably with brutal thoroughness.

[stealth923]

That is not what he said, and you are misconstruing what is being said. Try reading the previous pages.

What was pointed out is that the current system disconnects the inputs/outputs. That is the most important step, and has been accomplished already before the rest of the project is done. Thus, it is a success. If you feel this is incorrect, there is a bounty to find a string of tx or even 1 that ties to the original.

Are you sure that the current system disconnects the inputs/outputs? Thats the dev's opinion based on his code. Has this been THOROUGHLY tested by people who are skilled enough and would have even have heard of XC? - NO it hasnt. They wouldnt waste their time.

[Teka]

That is not what he said, and you are misconstruing what is being said. Try reading the previous pages.

What was pointed out is that the current system disconnects the inputs/outputs. That is the most important step, and has been accomplished already before the rest of the project is done. Thus, it is a success. If you feel this is incorrect, there is a bounty to find a string of tx or even 1 that ties to the original.

Are you sure that the current system disconnects the inputs/outputs? Thats the dev's opinion based on his code. Has this been THOROUGHLY tested by people who are skilled enough and would have even have heard of XC? - NO it hasnt. They wouldnt waste their time.

Thanks for the feedback, it has been noted.

[studio1one]

So ATCSecure puts out another test for what 1-2 hours, then when no-one responds he proclaims "Yes its secure and anonymous". Get real....

As others have said put out a real reward to the community 5-10btc and leave it for 1 week and see what happens when you attract the attention of people that do real block-chain analysis. Are you confident enough to risk the death of the coin on it at this point? If not then you obviously have more work to do this this space.

ATC you seem like you are rushing through things saying you are wrapping up Rev1 as "there's not much time" - anonymity is NOT A JOKE, it takes time to get right as the number of attack vectors is HUGE - take the time to listen to the community, have in depth technical discussions....people are screaming around you with red flags and you keep pushing forward with business plans, ATMs and VISA cards etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

You have never been involved in a development project in your life. When you work on a project you have milestones, when a milestone is achieved you move onto the next stage.

Milestone 1 -- obfuscate inputs and outputs. This is done, it doesn't mean the the anno transaction code is finished, it means the first stage is done and finished and the second stage can be moved onto.

No one is suggesting it is not still possible to link transactions. They are suggesting that a direct link between input and output is not possible. This has been queried for days now and no one has been able to.

Sure Chaeplin either recognised the mixer code on the blockchain

or

was able to trace the transactions back through amount and time due to lack of activity on each block

No one denies that. At this stage, for a reason, tx can be traced back to the sender

That reason is not a direct link on the block chain between transactions.

The developer has clearly stated that the current milestone was not uncrackable anonymity but to remove any direct blockchain link between input and output

This has been done.

Now he is moving on to the second stage of further obfuscating the way the mix works, by using multiple paths and varied splits of mix amounts.


You need to quit the trolling and grow a brain. You'll feel better for it.

[policymaker]

To post something that matters, im trying to get some xc to bittrex its painfully slow, been witing more than 30 min. 2/6 conf... is it normal ?

[synechist]

Milestone 1 -- obfuscate inputs and outputs. This is done, it doesn't mean the the anno transaction code is finished, it means the first stage is done and finished and the second stage can be moved onto.

No one is suggesting it is not still possible to link transactions. They are suggesting that a direct link between input and output is not possible. This has been queried for days now and no one has been able to.

Sure Chaeplin either recognised the mixer code on the blockchain

or

was able to trace the transactions back through amount and time due to lack of activity on each block

No one denies that. At this stage, for a reason, tx can be traced back to the sender

That reason is not a direct link on the block chain between transactions.

The developer has clearly stated that the current milestone was not uncrackable anonymity but to remove any direct blockchain link between input and output

This has been done.

Now he is moving on to the second stage of further obfuscating the way the mix works, by using multiple paths and varied splits of mix amounts.

+1. Solid summary. Trolls please make an attempt to avoid misrepresenting it.

[battbot]

That would defeat the purpose of "the troll." Their sole objective is to present a misrepresentation.

[BrewCrewFan]

Lutz at darkcoin trolls FUdding in another coins topic. To me that means one thing, they are worried about market share .

[synechist]

That would defeat the purpose of "the troll." Their sole objective is to present a misrepresentation.

Ah well. I live in hope that trollishness can be exorcised by addressing them in good faith.

[adhitthana]

Lutz at darkcoin trolls FUdding in another coins topic. To me that means one thing, they are worried about market share .

What they don't understand is that by making so many enemies, if DRK has a problem some people are likely to return the favour.
Not that the trolls have any real association with DRK community

[battbot]

Honestly, I see the price fall as a blessing.  The general public (aka the masses) has no idea the significance / progress that atcsecure is making with this coin and its anon tech.  There will soon come a day when no amount of troll FUD can hold back the price.  Use this as an opportunity to stock up.  

[CryptoGretzky]

Honestly, I see the price fall as a blessing.  The general public (aka the masses) has no idea the significance / progress that atcsecure is making with this coin and its anon tech.  There will soon come a day when no amount of troll FUD can hold back the price.  Use this as an opportunity to stock up.  

+1

I have taken this opportunity to really load up on more XC... Think I added another 10k XC last night thanks to the drop into the 130k area.

[AlexGR]

Trust me when I say media attention is not really desirable while the "nodes-can-steal-money" issue remains.

Atcsecure already said dynamic trust system will prevent bad actors from stealing. Are you more or as qualified as him to present an argument opposing this? If so, let's hear it. Because all I've seen you do is offer up ungrounded "thesis statements" with no supporting arguments.  Not trying to troll, but I'd like to see a solid argument of why you oppose atcsecures method. Until then, nothing you say holds any water.

Operative word: will.

Which means, as it is right now, with nodes being able to steal money, you don't want much attention because it can instantly snap the other way around to ...negative attention. Let's see the fix first...