[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[JakeThePanda]

Sorry, but I agree with this until we have a fucking white paper or something explaining our tech. I'm sick of hearing that XC is way ahead in terms of the tech... HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS TRUE? WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTATION OR PROOF?

Start using your heads, my god.

Since when did a whitepaper replace actual working software as proof of solid technology?  Whitepaper's were originally used as a marketing piece to promote products, not as scientific proof of working technology.

You want a whitepaper?  I'll write you a whitepaper explaining how I'm going to use my ass as an engine to shoot myself to the moon and live to tell about it.

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[hoertest]

I know that its all hot air atm. good luck to anyone trying to ride the pump. i don't have the balls anymore  .

one more thing. I'm all for giving value and recieving value type of actions in this crypto community. Tell me where is the value keycoin devs is giving to XC in exchange for Dans time except that one line thank you so far?

The point is that Dan's review is the value given to XC.

- it establishes Dan's reputation in the community

- it demonstrates his spirit of mutual respect and goodwill

- it further solidifies XC's reputation as a real, legit project

- it gets Key members interested in XC.


Best move ever on Dan's part.

Guess you talked him into it. You are way to invested in this whole mutual generosity Dalai lama of Business thing. I'm all for respect but its to much, and yes i would like to see some more effort from key devs personally.

And after all he has accomplished you consider this his best move ever ? Your priorities are off

I had nothing whatsoever to do with that review. I heard about it when the rest of you did. Dan did it entirely of his own volition. So there goes that theory.

Secondly, though I'm not personally that into the Dalai Lama, if you're using him as an exemplar of ethical conduct then yes, it's damn well correct that we should be ethically exemplary. It's a HUGE competitive advantage.

If you disagree, that's fine with me. I'm not interested in enforcing compliance of belief.

But can you just drop this issue now? You've been simply repeating yourself for a few pages.

ok i stop with it. we don't have to agree on everything. 90 % is fine  

PS. RW-scott u totally misunderstood my post. I'm 100% shure we have the best tech.

[The-C-Word]

Cryptonator still had XC listed as X11 coin. I emailed them about the name change and they updated within a few hours  .

[synechist]

Hoertest, generosity is a virtue, and virtues have long-term and short-term benefits. There's absolutely no need to be less than virtuous, ever.

There is little doubt in my mind that Dan's review will be beneficial to all parties, and mostly to XC.

You showed public interest in cloak some days ago. look where cloak is now and how beneficial it was to us. ....

Where is cloak now? It has nothing special really, just a pump and dump related to the hype taking place into the trade...
There is too much centralization there...and cheap fancy developments...

cloaksend? a mere 3-4 hours php script

http://www.cloaksend.com/api/cloaks/CBnkPKapz8U2FKc7EQSeCcSZ3qPD82XpGp/C5qKmSjW1K1CiADtnMHMPBjQWybHQ9S8ce/50.0

onemarket? another centralized king-of-website, integrated into the WALLET...


Anyway, I'm happy for a thing related to cloak right now, which is seeing that mintpal has not lost the trust yet, and there is still volume on the exchange...

I know that its all hot air atm. good luck to anyone trying to ride the pump. i don't have the balls anymore  .

one more thing. I'm all for giving value and recieving value type of actions in this crypto community. Tell me where is the value keycoin devs is giving to XC in exchange for Dans time except that one line thank you so far?

Sorry, but I agree with this until we have a fucking white paper or something explaining our tech. I'm sick of hearing that XC is way ahead in terms of the tech... HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS TRUE? WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTATION OR PROOF?

Start using your heads, my god.

Wake up angry?

For one, how about the fact that no one has cracked XC's anonymity? And people have TRIED HARD.

Two, REV1 has been open sourced in good faith to show that there is indeed real development here.  And even though REV1 was excellent, it's still like comparing a Honda Civic to a Pagani Zonda with what we have now.

Three, XChat uses the same multi-path approach as transacting XCurrency, to ensure fast and secure communications.  This is nearing completion to be fully implemented into the app.

If you can't see the positives, sell me your coinnnnsssssss....

Yes, a white paper (by which I mean a proper scholarly presentation of XC's tech) is due for Rev 3. If you look up my post history you'll see why I think it's important not to release one before Rev 3.

For now, we're doing just fine with real live working tech, and multiple explanatory texts like the OP and press releases. ;-)

[prospect]

Sorry, but I agree with this until we have a fucking white paper or something explaining our tech. I'm sick of hearing that XC is way ahead in terms of the tech... HOW DO WE KNOW THIS IS TRUE? WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTATION OR PROOF?

Start using your heads, my god.

Well, since you can not read c++ code, i can tell you that it is real. I am a developer and a network engineer, XC is real and probably have the most solid base to build upon among all cryptos (except nxt perhaps, but it have existed for 8 months now). Agree with a more solid description though.

[oblox]

You want a whitepaper?  I'll write you a whitepaper explaining how I'm going to use my ass as an engine to shoot myself to the moon and live to tell about it.

I'd invest in that shit. Pun intended.

[policymaker]

I said I love drama, it stirs volume.


12 hours and 1 peer review later, XC price up 10% . I think ill just try swing trading now. Hell, its not like I cry my eyes out at every single XC I lose. Or do I?

[ssmc2]

The stars are aligned and all the pieces are falling into place my friends. The next 2 months are going to XC's phoenix moment. I'm excited as hell.  

[illodin]

For one, how about the fact that no one has cracked XC's anonymity? And people have TRIED HARD.

This is one of the fallacies I see often. Take it from one of the brightest minds you can find on these forums (he is rather harsh here, but he was irritated from having to talk to intellectually challenged   ):

Nobody's gamed it yet

Proof? Evidence?

Anybody can blow any nonsense words out their arse. Cryptographers understand that until you do cryptanalysis, you don't fucking know.

[synechist]

For one, how about the fact that no one has cracked XC's anonymity? And people have TRIED HARD.

This is one of the fallacies I see often. Take it from one of the brightest minds you can find on these forums (he is rather harsh here, but he was irritated from having to talk to intellectually challenged  ):

Nobody's gamed it yet

Proof? Evidence?

Anybody can blow any nonsense words out their arse. Cryptographers understand that until you do cryptanalysis, you don't fucking know.

You're correct insofar as XC is not complete and expert consultations and public testing (for a big bounty) have not yet commenced. This, along with our making the code public, will "bulletproof" XC.

But I think what was meant is that anyone who's tested the mixer so far has failed to probably break XC's anonymity.

(Subsequently, XC's got trustless mixing, and further features are being implemented too which compound privacy and security.)

[oblox]

I do think the fixes for sending private transactions (still no luck on my end) and the unlock for staking only need to be priority fixes (can still send coins even if it's set for staking only).

EDIT: And I wouldn't object to troubleshooting with Dan over webex (teamviewer perhaps) incase he isn't able to replicate the issue I am having (that way he can see that my firewall and router settings are properly setup).

[Artoodeetoo]

The OP looks sweet now.

[synechist]

***The XC Daily Update***


Hello all

Time to tell the secret...

Dan noted last night that XChat will be bundled into an updated TOR Stick.






On its own XChat is:

- based on the Xnode protocol, which is the foundation of XC's nodes.

- As it stands, XChat is a true P2P protocol, with no third parties/servers, making it very hard to attack.

- XChat is encrypted from end-to-end, so no-one can snoop on your messages.



But when combined with the TOR Stick:

- Your XChat app is inside the TOR cloud. This means no exit nodes will be used, so packet sniffers can't find your IP.

- As such, although TOR is normally vulnerable to packet sniffers, it isn't for XChat.

- Also, because XChat is true P2P, it's also not subject to the other TOR vulnerability, man-in-the-middle attacks.

- The TOR Stick is its own operating system; it leaves no trace on your computer once your remove it. (This is a little bit like Tails). So when you're done chatting to someone, nobody will be able to locate and steal your information.


As a result, XChat in the TOR Stick represents a landmark moment in messaging: true privacy.


The TOR Stick, with the latest XChat, will be available for download on Thur next week.

[PowderMonkey]

Excellent Update

I assume that XChat will remain stand-alone for now until REV2.5? Or will it be inside the app?

[synechist]

Excellent Update

I assume the XChat will remain stand-alone for now until REV2.5? Or will it be inside the app?

Yes XChat and privacy mode transactions will be merged in Rev 2.5.

[PowderMonkey]

Excellent Update

I assume the XChat will remain stand-alone for now until REV2.5? Or will it be inside the app?

Yes XChat and privacy mode transactions will be merged in Rev 2.5.

Awesome, that's what I was thinking.

[conradjohnson]

Excellent Update

I assume the XChat will remain stand-alone for now until REV2.5? Or will it be inside the app?

Yes XChat and privacy mode transactions will be merged in Rev 2.5.

Awesome, that's what I was thinking.

Please, please put a utility on that to run updates on wallet releases...

Nice work.

[the_game1224]

***The XC Daily Update***


Hello all

Time to tell the secret...

Dan noted last night that XChat will be bundled into an updated TOR Stick.






On its own XChat is:

- based on the Xnode protocol, which is the foundation of XC's nodes.

- As it stands, XChat is a true P2P protocol, with no third parties/servers, making it very hard to attack.

- XChat is encrypted from end-to-end, so no-one can snoop on your messages.



But when combined with the TOR Stick:

- Your XChat app is inside the TOR cloud. This means no exit nodes will be used, so packet sniffers can't find your IP.

- As such, although TOR is normally vulnerable to packet sniffers, it isn't for XChat.

- Also, because XChat is true P2P, it's also not subject to the other TOR vulnerability, man-in-the-middle attacks.

- The TOR Stick is its own operating system; it leaves no trace on your computer once your remove it. (This is a little bit like Tails). So when you're done chatting to someone, nobody will be able to locate and steal your information.


As a result, XChat in the TOR Stick represents a landmark moment in messaging: true privacy.


The TOR Stick, with the latest XChat, will be available for download on Thur next week.

[synechist]

Please, please put a utility on that to run updates on wallet releases...

Nice work.

Yes, that's an important feature for usability. It's in the pipeline, but it's a feature for Rev 3 (or maybe later). We're getting the foundation done first.

[SpringfieldM1A]

Is there an ETA when the TOR sticks will be available for shipping? (sorry if this has been answered already, couldn't find it)