[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[atcsecure]

Is it going to be based on XMPP or custom protocols?
What about delays and jitter which would be enormous in multihop P2P and likely leading to unsatisfactory call quality?

From Dan's Linked in page:  https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82

Wireless Consultant
Homeland Security Wireless
January 2005 – June 2009 (4 years 6 months)
Developed Large Scale Mobile Mesh Wireless which supports dynamic connection between multiple Access Points with out packet loss - an Industry First!


I think he knows what he's doing.  

Yep, but that's slightly different thing. Large scale wireless without packet loss is great, but P2P for voice is pretty much different as you deal with peers who could have bad Internet connections, introducing high delays and jitter. It is likely that voice call would be routed via multiple peers for increased security causing delays and jitter multiplication which is killing for real-time apps like voice/video calls.

pushing VoIP over multi-path wireless is very similar [in some ways] as RF conditions on a moving vessel change constantly, thus that "path" could go from steady to unsteady in milliseconds.


There are numerous variables at play and a "dial up" user isn't going to be able to do video with XChat as there will be certain bandwidth requirements.

I do have extensive experience with voice/video over a wide-range of network topologies [wired,wireless and satellite] and appreciate the challenges this task will face.  Part of it comes down the codec's used as well.

Dan

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[CryptoGretzky]

Is it going to be based on XMPP or custom protocols?
What about delays and jitter which would be enormous in multihop P2P and likely leading to unsatisfactory call quality?

From Dan's Linked in page:  https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82

Wireless Consultant
Homeland Security Wireless
January 2005 – June 2009 (4 years 6 months)
Developed Large Scale Mobile Mesh Wireless which supports dynamic connection between multiple Access Points with out packet loss - an Industry First!


I think he knows what he's doing.  

Yep, but that's slightly different thing. Large scale wireless without packet loss is great, but P2P for voice is pretty much different as you deal with peers who could have bad Internet connections, introducing high delays and jitter. It is likely that voice call would be routed via multiple peers for increased security causing delays and jitter multiplication which is killing for real-time apps like voice/video calls.

pushing VoIP over multi-path wireless is very similar [in some ways] as RF conditions on a moving vessel change constantly, thus that "path" could go from steady to unsteady in milliseconds.


There are numerous variables at play and a "dial up" user isn't going to be able to do video with XChat as there will be certain bandwidth requirements.

I do have extensive experience with voice/video over a wide-range of network topologies [wired,wireless and satellite] and appreciate the challenges this task will face.  Part of it comes down the codec's used as well.

Dan

BOOM!  and there you go!

[the_game1224]

pushing VoIP over multi-path wireless is very similar [in some ways] as RF conditions on a moving vessel change constantly, thus that "path" could go from steady to unsteady in milliseconds.


There are numerous variables at play and a "dial up" user isn't going to be able to do video with XChat as there will be certain bandwidth requirements.

I do have extensive experience with voice/video over a wide-range of network topologies [wired,wireless and satellite] and appreciate the challenges this task will face.  Part of it comes down the codec's used as well.

Dan

So you're saying this should be fun for you 

[conradjohnson]

Is it going to be based on XMPP or custom protocols?
What about delays and jitter which would be enormous in multihop P2P and likely leading to unsatisfactory call quality?

From Dan's Linked in page:  https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82

Wireless Consultant
Homeland Security Wireless
January 2005 – June 2009 (4 years 6 months)
Developed Large Scale Mobile Mesh Wireless which supports dynamic connection between multiple Access Points with out packet loss - an Industry First!


I think he knows what he's doing.  

Yep, but that's slightly different thing. Large scale wireless without packet loss is great, but P2P for voice is pretty much different as you deal with peers who could have bad Internet connections, introducing high delays and jitter. It is likely that voice call would be routed via multiple peers for increased security causing delays and jitter multiplication which is killing for real-time apps like voice/video calls.

pushing VoIP over multi-path wireless is very similar [in some ways] as RF conditions on a moving vessel change constantly, thus that "path" could go from steady to unsteady in milliseconds.


There are numerous variables at play and a "dial up" user isn't going to be able to do video with XChat as there will be certain bandwidth requirements.

I do have extensive experience with voice/video over a wide-range of network topologies [wired,wireless and satellite] and appreciate the challenges this task will face.  Part of it comes down the codec's used as well.

Dan

BOOM!  and there you go!

Dan, consider, from a business perspective, if these calls and video calls do take bandwith on the networks, perhaps consider a charge fee for their usage?  XC used as tokens within the app and rewarded to the relaying nodes.   Drive up demand for XC.  

[Queeq]

All right, thanks, would be interesting to see how it goes. I don't know if there are any kind of P2P VoIP available at all. Must be pretty challenging task.

Are you going to use XMPP standards or something of other kind? XMPP could be useful as it would allow to build additional services like file transfer, multi-user chat, etc. pretty fast.

[atcsecure]

pushing VoIP over multi-path wireless is very similar [in some ways] as RF conditions on a moving vessel change constantly, thus that "path" could go from steady to unsteady in milliseconds.


There are numerous variables at play and a "dial up" user isn't going to be able to do video with XChat as there will be certain bandwidth requirements.

I do have extensive experience with voice/video over a wide-range of network topologies [wired,wireless and satellite] and appreciate the challenges this task will face.  Part of it comes down the codec's used as well.

Dan

So you're saying this should be fun for you 

Yes - I always love a challenge.. although sleep is good too :-)

[JakeThePanda]

pushing VoIP over multi-path wireless is very similar [in some ways] as RF conditions on a moving vessel change constantly, thus that "path" could go from steady to unsteady in milliseconds.


There are numerous variables at play and a "dial up" user isn't going to be able to do video with XChat as there will be certain bandwidth requirements.

I do have extensive experience with voice/video over a wide-range of network topologies [wired,wireless and satellite] and appreciate the challenges this task will face.  Part of it comes down the codec's used as well.

Dan

So you're saying this should be fun for you  

Yes - I always love a challenge.. although sleep is good  too :-)

But the premine!  Haha, just kidding.

My money...I give it to you.  My wife...she good, take her too.

[CTRLX]

Is it going to be based on XMPP or custom protocols?
What about delays and jitter which would be enormous in multihop P2P and likely leading to unsatisfactory call quality?

From Dan's Linked in page:  https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82

Wireless Consultant
Homeland Security Wireless
January 2005 – June 2009 (4 years 6 months)
Developed Large Scale Mobile Mesh Wireless which supports dynamic connection between multiple Access Points with out packet loss - an Industry First!


I think he knows what he's doing.  

Yep, but that's slightly different thing. Large scale wireless without packet loss is great, but P2P for voice is pretty much different as you deal with peers who could have bad Internet connections, introducing high delays and jitter. It is likely that voice call would be routed via multiple peers for increased security causing delays and jitter multiplication which is killing for real-time apps like voice/video calls.

Totally realistic approach, but then again better have him working on it than some anonymous dev... Team has already announced a lot of exciting collaborations, we can only imagine what might be happening in the background, perhaps if some big player joins this and provides the resources I feel the team can achieve anything, they have already delivered so much. I am desperately trying to trade my way up.

This ^^

Not that mesh network and p2p voice/video calling are the same thing.  But, with his previous experience in the mobile field, I have all the confidence in the world that he knows what he is dealing with and has already thought about the complexity of the problem at hand.

This is not like some unknown dev came out and suddenly announce that they are going to produce a decentralized skype with absolutely no previous background, but at least a dev that has been there before in the field.

+1 many coins have "announced" they will feature voice chat and video chat but they all failed because of incompetent development. That is why XC will reign supreme. Man I am stoked for the future of this coin.

[kyma]

Mac wallet with XChat update should be available later today!!!!

Very Much looking forward to this!!

[G-Bert]

Just want to say great work to the whole team, especially Dan! Good news just keeps on coming!!

 

[atcsecure]

Dan, consider, from a business perspective, if these calls and video calls do take bandwith on the networks, perhaps consider a charge fee for their usage?  XC used as tokens within the app and rewarded to the relaying nodes.   Drive up demand for XC.  

Yes this is being considered.

[Teka]

Is it going to be based on XMPP or custom protocols?
What about delays and jitter which would be enormous in multihop P2P and likely leading to unsatisfactory call quality?

From Dan's Linked in page:  https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82

Wireless Consultant
Homeland Security Wireless
January 2005 – June 2009 (4 years 6 months)
Developed Large Scale Mobile Mesh Wireless which supports dynamic connection between multiple Access Points with out packet loss - an Industry First!


I think he knows what he's doing.  

Yep, but that's slightly different thing. Large scale wireless without packet loss is great, but P2P for voice is pretty much different as you deal with peers who could have bad Internet connections, introducing high delays and jitter. It is likely that voice call would be routed via multiple peers for increased security causing delays and jitter multiplication which is killing for real-time apps like voice/video calls.

Totally realistic approach, but then again better have him working on it than some anonymous dev... Team has already announced a lot of exciting collaborations, we can only imagine what might be happening in the background, perhaps if some big player joins this and provides the resources I feel the team can achieve anything, they have already delivered so much. I am desperately trying to trade my way up.

This ^^

Not that mesh network and p2p voice/video calling are the same thing.  But, with his previous experience in the mobile field, I have all the confidence in the world that he knows what he is dealing with and has already thought about the complexity of the problem at hand.

This is not like some unknown dev came out and suddenly announce that they are going to produce a decentralized skype with absolutely no previous background, but at least a dev that has been there before in the field.

+1 many coins have "announced" they will feature voice chat and video chat but they all failed because of incompetent development. That is why XC will reign supreme. Man I am stoked for the future of this coin.

The thing that you all are forgetting is Dan is more than happy to bring in help if needed, we already have multiple expert coders lead by Dan.

[conradjohnson]

Dan, consider, from a business perspective, if these calls and video calls do take bandwith on the networks, perhaps consider a charge fee for their usage?  XC used as tokens within the app and rewarded to the relaying nodes.   Drive up demand for XC.  

Yes this is being considered.

Roger that.  Putting on spacesuit. 

[atcsecure]

Dan, consider, from a business perspective, if these calls and video calls do take bandwith on the networks, perhaps consider a charge fee for their usage?  XC used as tokens within the app and rewarded to the relaying nodes.   Drive up demand for XC.  

Yes this is being considered.

Roger that.  Putting on spacesuit. 

I should be more clear, as considered doesn't really imply that it is a key part of the vision, which it is.  This is what XNode is all about

[bitcoin carpenter]

Great news team!!

Thanks for doing such good work. Mindblowing as always

New to this whole anonymous coin world, but after reading through dark, cloak, monero,  and xc, I've decided to buy some xc.

I was gonna wait until zero came around, but it looks like you have something here.

Cheers

[Artoodeetoo]

Good job with this new feature, I have bought some XC as I expect the price will go up to at least 200K.

Holding CLOAK and XC, I think these 2 are the best alts at the moment. Both very innovative.

Now spread the word mate, you are joining a very exciting club.. Things are moving at quite a pace and Imo this coin has no rivals it is that far ahead.

[the_game1224]

***The XC Daily Update***


Hello all

It's been confirmed by the developers that XChat will include voice calling in post-Rev 3 editions, and video calling further into the future.

So basically we have a decentralised, private, Skype.

Here's to the future!

Good lord!  Feel like my head is about to explode.

So you are telling me when this is all completed we could install the XCurrency App on our phone run an XNode automatically while staking at the same time and have private Skype functionality?!?!?

Yes, that is what they are telling you.

AFK while I sell my house...

Precisely.

XC's design has had mobile platforms in mind from the outset.

Wanted to bump this with my post bolded just because I can't get over how big this is.

[conradjohnson]

Dan, consider, from a business perspective, if these calls and video calls do take bandwith on the networks, perhaps consider a charge fee for their usage?  XC used as tokens within the app and rewarded to the relaying nodes.   Drive up demand for XC.  

Yes this is being considered.

Roger that.  Putting on spacesuit. 

I should be more clear, as considered doesn't really imply that it is a key part of the vision, which it is.  This is what XNode is all about

Tweet THAT @xcurrency.

[policymaker]

Great news team!!

Thanks for doing such good work. Mindblowing as always

New to this whole anonymous coin world, but after reading through dark, cloak, monero,  and xc, I've decided to buy some xc.

I was gonna wait until zero came around, but it looks like you have something here.

Cheers

ty for your vote of confidence, its been a long ride already, and its not ending soon!

[the_game1224]

Great news team!!

Thanks for doing such good work. Mindblowing as always

New to this whole anonymous coin world, but after reading through dark, cloak, monero,  and xc, I've decided to buy some xc.

I was gonna wait until zero came around, but it looks like you have something here.

Cheers

Welcome!!