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Author Topic: [ANN] FIMK: 2.5G POS, extra block rewards, messaging, asset colors, p2p shopping  (Read 175932 times)
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July 09, 2014, 12:30:08 AM
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Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

I seriously doubt any big stakeholder would waste time doing this.  If you really wanted to, then you could find a way to distribute to smaller stakeholders.

I was talking about skewed distribution in general, and why won't it work.
If we are still talking about the 10k rewards, I honestly don't care, and I don't even know why we are talking about it this much. It worth 0.03 BTC currently, less than 20 bucks.


lol. 20 bucks today can easily become 10,000 USD tomorrow in the crypto world.  Everyone knows this.

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July 09, 2014, 07:26:30 AM
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Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

I seriously doubt any big stakeholder would waste time doing this.  If you really wanted to, then you could find a way to distribute to smaller stakeholders.

I was talking about skewed distribution in general, and why won't it work.
If we are still talking about the 10k rewards, I honestly don't care, and I don't even know why we are talking about it this much. It worth 0.03 BTC currently, less than 20 bucks.


lol. 20 bucks today can easily become 10,000 USD tomorrow in the crypto world.  Everyone knows this.

The only way to successfully distribute coins evenly to people is to have those people uniquely identified. Without a central authority, or without the mass cooperation of every single person involved, people will always be able to game the system. It's not even about effort, it's about ability. This makes any attempt to reward smaller stakeholders futile. 

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July 09, 2014, 08:58:31 AM
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And aliases can still not be created right?
They can, just use the correct format of the account number (update readme falsely speaks of accepting both formats - coders are like that).

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Is Fimk Ry devs forging with the unreleased fimk balances as well ?

No.

This makes any attempt to reward smaller stakeholders futile. 
On this part I agree and would leave the minor issue of bonus rewards behind now. The rewards are given so rarely that random variance takes care of it. Unfortunately for the first reward randomness had a good one on us, resulting in a lot of wasted energy for the community in an attempt to solve an issue of little significance.

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July 09, 2014, 09:50:57 AM
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FIMK has been No.7 in bter voting. Maybe we can soon exchange FIMK on bter.

https://bter.com/voting
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July 09, 2014, 09:58:13 AM
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FIMK has been No.7 in bter voting. Maybe we can soon exchange FIMK on bter.

https://bter.com/voting

Already No. 5  Grin Hopefully we'll see more exchanges trading FIMK.
Forging blocks are quite funny and what i have understood, devs are creating new Exchange for FIMK and it will launch soon!

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July 09, 2014, 12:45:21 PM
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FIMK has been No.7 in bter voting. Maybe we can soon exchange FIMK on bter.

https://bter.com/voting

Already No. 5  Grin Hopefully we'll see more exchanges trading FIMK.
Forging blocks are quite funny and what i have understood, devs are creating new Exchange for FIMK and it will launch soon!
Will bter need a permission to list FIM or can the devs decide about that?
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July 09, 2014, 01:44:07 PM
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I purchased my FIMK via dgex.com and I've now downloaded the browser web wallet; so next step presumably is to go to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/, click on Returning User?, enter the passphrase for my FIMK account, as set out in my dgex.com back office, wait for the blockchain to download and start forging.

Is that it or have I missed a step?

Thought I should check first.

TIA  Smiley
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July 09, 2014, 01:49:44 PM
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how to distrubution?i want to know,lol
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July 09, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
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So FIMK is list in Coinmarketcap and coinmarketcap shows now, change of 1h and 7 days, and all coins in one list, low volume list is closed^^

Second i have a  newbie question, excuse my bad english xD
 The question : When i´am logged out of my account and my pc is don`t running, i can forge. How this works ?
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July 09, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
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So FIMK is list in Coinmarketcap and coinmarketcap shows now, change of 1h and 7 days, and all coins in one list, low volume list is closed^^

Second i have a  newbie question, excuse my bad english xD
 The question : When i´am logged out of my account and my pc is don`t running, i can forge. How this works ?
If you are using wallet on fimk.fi website, even if you logging out the 'server part' is still running (keeping your passphrase in memory). But up-time and security are not guaranteed.
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July 09, 2014, 02:29:53 PM
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So FIMK is list in Coinmarketcap and coinmarketcap shows now, change of 1h and 7 days, and all coins in one list, low volume list is closed^^

There is an efforts underway to provide coinmarketcap.com with the missing details to have FIMK listed properly.

Second i have a  newbie question, excuse my bad english xD
 The question : When i´am logged out of my account and my pc is don`t running, i can forge. How this works ?

You can forge when logged out of your account, but you will have to have a FIMK client (NRS) running which is connected to the internet, e.g. a VPS or Raspberry PI or similar.
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July 09, 2014, 02:44:52 PM
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And when my pc is in sleep modus, this connection works ? Because i forged 3 blocks in this time^^
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July 09, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
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And when my pc is in sleep modus, this connection works ? Because i forged 3 blocks in this time^^
If you are using fimk.fi wallet - yes. But there is no connection. Server part is just running and forging by itself using your passphrase.
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July 09, 2014, 03:05:59 PM
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no, fim nrs runs over localhost:**** , these is no online, or i miss understand that ^^
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July 09, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
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no, fim nrs runs over localhost:**** , these is no online, or i miss understand that ^^
If it runs on localhost, it will not be forging when you computer is in a sleep mode.
But it will, if you just log out from the client, and keep server part running.
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July 09, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
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OK, thanks for info^^
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July 09, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
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I purchased my FIMK via dgex.com and I've now downloaded the browser web wallet; so next step presumably is to go to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/, click on Returning User?, enter the passphrase for my FIMK account, as set out in my dgex.com back office, wait for the blockchain to download and start forging.

Is that it or have I missed a step?

Thought I should check first.

TIA  Smiley

You should download and run the wallet on your own machine. You seem to say you did that. I would trust the web wallet is forging for me.

If you downloaded the wallet and ran that run.bat you should browse to localhost:7886 and login. You should see your wallet. From there you can "logout" and keep the wallet running on your PC and you will be forging.
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July 09, 2014, 04:50:46 PM
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thanks - I downloaded the wallet, ran the bat file, waited for the console to show that the FIM server had started successfully and then as you suggested browsed to localhost:7886 to log in but got a Problem loading page message. I then  browsed to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
put in my passphrase as per the info on the FIMK stakeholder donation escrow page in my dgex.com account and instead of the FIM  account number assigned to me got a new account with zero balance in it.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong here but don't know what - any further help much appreciated . thanks
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July 09, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
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thanks - I downloaded the wallet, ran the bat file, waited for the console to show that the FIM server had started successfully and then as you suggested browsed to localhost:7886 to log in but got a Problem loading page message. I then  browsed to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
put in my passphrase as per the info on the FIMK stakeholder donation escrow page in my dgex.com account and instead of the FIM  account number assigned to me got a new account with zero balance in it.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong here but don't know what - any further help much appreciated . thanks

did you remember to add a space (spacebar) after your passphrase?

EDIT:  the spacebar pertains only to the DGEX generated passphrases

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July 09, 2014, 05:04:22 PM
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thanks - I downloaded the wallet, ran the bat file, waited for the console to show that the FIM server had started successfully and then as you suggested browsed to localhost:7886 to log in but got a Problem loading page message. I then  browsed to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
put in my passphrase as per the info on the FIMK stakeholder donation escrow page in my dgex.com account and instead of the FIM  account number assigned to me got a new account with zero balance in it.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong here but don't know what - any further help much appreciated . thanks
Are you adding a space to your dgex passphrase?
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