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July 02, 2014, 07:49:26 AM |
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BTW, here are the genesis block stakeholder accounts for your perusal while we get some sleep ........................... TOTAL FIMK 666'280'000Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC Blockchain.info 191 donations, 225.5324219 BTC DGEX.com 240 donators, 307.50564270 BTC
So 666280000/533.0380646 = 1'249'967 FIMK/ BTCWhy my 1 BTC stake received only 624984 FIMK ? Am I missing something? FIM-XJXA-VCLN-4BWL-2SGAB 313000000 Krypto Fin Basic income reserve account This account is out of IPO.
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tobeaj2mer01
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Angel investor.
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July 02, 2014, 08:39:09 AM |
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So disappointed, I missed this coin IPO, I will buy some when it hits exchange.
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Sirx: SQyHJdSRPk5WyvQ5rJpwDUHrLVSvK2ffFa
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 02, 2014, 08:52:43 AM |
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FIMK is in the air. Downloadable browser wallet https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.0x/fim-0.2.0x.zipWeb wallet will be up soon. We have open sourced the FIMKrypto software, which is obtainable at https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/Krypto Fin is a nonprofit association that aims to progress the adoption and usage of cryptocurrencies worldwide. We welcome competent developers to join us in making FIMK the strongest community based cryptocurrency. The association is equipped to pay serious bounties and will strive to establish partnership deals with programmers worldwide to make FIMK's aspiration to a leading p2p system position the reality. Forging may continue on association's account still for a while and occasionally after that. All block rewards received to the association's accounts or related accounts during the beginning phase will be distributed to initial stakeholders on pro rata basis according to details published later. Head developer will come in to explain the technical requirements for private mining during the launch and until now.
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tobeaj2meraa
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July 02, 2014, 09:17:07 AM |
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FIMK is in the air. Downloadable browser wallet https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.0x/fim-0.2.0x.zipWeb wallet will be up soon. We have open sourced the FIMKrypto software, which is obtainable at https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/Krypto Fin is a nonprofit association that aims to progress the adoption and usage of cryptocurrencies worldwide. We welcome competent developers to join us in making FIMK the strongest community based cryptocurrency. The association is equipped to pay serious bounties and will strive to establish partnership deals with programmers worldwide to make FIMK's aspiration to a leading p2p system position the reality. Forging may continue on association's account still for a while and occasionally after that. All block rewards received to the association's accounts or related accounts during the beginning phase will be distributed to initial stakeholders on pro rata basis according to details published later. Head developer will come in to explain the technical requirements for private mining during the launch and until now. How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?
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FimKrypto
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July 02, 2014, 09:20:50 AM |
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I understand there was some confusion on why the organization account has been forging the first few hundred blocks. In hindsight a better approach would have been to enable block rewards only after a few thousand blocks, but we can't go back now. To be honest I never expected the IPO to be so successful. But I'm happy I was wrong The reasons that we wanted to forge blocks before releasing to the public are: 1. In case of a problem we could take it down and make adjustments. 2. And most importantly, the block chain is in not as secure at an extremely low blockheight as it is later on. So sorry for the confusion, it's live now everyone can forge if they like. I'm sure the organization and the community will work out a way what to do with the amount that was forged.
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 02, 2014, 09:23:03 AM |
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So 666280000/533.0380646 = 1'249'967 FIMK/BTC
Why my 1BTC stake received only 624984 FIMK ? Am I missing something?
Yes, initial distribution was always 333 140 000 FIMK. Another 333 140 000 lot consisting of the basic income funds and organization's funds to be used for the community & block bonuses was added to the genesis block for technical reasons as described here: http://fimk.fi/en/info.htm
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quiglag
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July 02, 2014, 09:24:19 AM |
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Well, I am up and forging, now I sleep. Send me FIM to get your Public Key.
FIM-HFXM-BUEQ-K8WV-AB3TA
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FimKrypto
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July 02, 2014, 09:27:42 AM |
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Check all notification messages like... You're about to send over 10000 NXT... I will post any I find! Guaranteed Balance: 0 NXTGood one. It must have slipped through the cracks. To be clear there is no hidden module in the FIM client that allows you to send NXT from thin air. Btw. We have an issue tracker over at https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/issues
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 02, 2014, 09:45:39 AM |
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How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886There is an annoying technical requirement to make an outgoing transaction somewhere before you can forge (do that before block 1440). FIMKrypto organization account is FIM-M3YE-7Q2G-JEZS-HPHK4.
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mellorbo
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July 02, 2014, 09:56:11 AM |
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how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 02, 2014, 10:01:37 AM |
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how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction before they can forge.
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onlinepro
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July 02, 2014, 10:04:51 AM |
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Okay, my wallet is "forging" now. What does it mean? Do I get some coins for it? How much?
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qqfcwr
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July 02, 2014, 10:08:09 AM |
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FimKrypto
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July 02, 2014, 10:10:38 AM |
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Okay, my wallet is "forging" now. What does it mean? Do I get some coins for it? How much?
There is a block reward of 200 FIM. You'll get it as soon as you'll forge a block. How many blocks you'll forge depends on your stake. Not sure. Try reloading your browser.
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mellorbo
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July 02, 2014, 10:11:15 AM |
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how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction before they can forge. i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks?
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onlinepro
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July 02, 2014, 10:13:05 AM |
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Okay, my wallet is "forging" now. What does it mean? Do I get some coins for it? How much?
There is a block reward of 200 FIM. You'll get it as soon as you'll forge a block. How many blocks you'll forge depends on your stake. Okay, sounds good I hope I can get some coins soon.
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kikeda
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Available Now!
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July 02, 2014, 10:23:35 AM |
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how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction before they can forge. i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks? same here guess we have to wait for 1440 more blocks
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mellorbo
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July 02, 2014, 10:25:35 AM |
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how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction before they can forge. i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks? same here guess we have to wait for 1440 more blocks yea kinda sucks tbh since we was advised to change accounts, so really all dgex investors have been penalized via investing via this method
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Eliphaz Fimk (OP)
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July 02, 2014, 10:30:12 AM |
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POS and the FIMK extra reward aren't like Bitcoin-clones POW where you receive massively more rewards if you forge early. I think this aspect may twist the perception of many. The difficulty doesn't rise. You'll be able to forge about just as effectively half a day or half a year from now. Only the slow increase in adoption and knowledge of forging affect the efficiency of your forging opportunity.
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FimKrypto
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July 02, 2014, 10:30:49 AM |
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how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction before they can forge. i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks? same here guess we have to wait for 1440 more blocks To be clear.. If you're a stakeholder you can forge before block 2880 (basically immediately) after you make an outgoing transaction. If you use the JSON API you can even forge without making a transaction first. I guess they force you to do a transaction in the NXT client since it's safer to do so. If you're not a stakeholder then yes you must wait 1440 blocks (which is half a day because of the 30 sec block time)
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