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July 16, 2014, 09:59:34 PM |
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SquidsIn
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July 16, 2014, 10:06:25 PM |
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I would like to make the NUD community aware of the convenience branch of the oldest known NUD git repository: https://github.com/nudnud/nud-unofficial/tree/convenience. First patch: Making sure that addresses always begin with "N". Motivation: In more professional altcoins, different starting characters usually mean different address types. So, having sometimes "M" and sometimes "N" for NUD addresses seems confusing. Please note that unlike the code released by the user NUD, the convenience branch is developed carefully, making sure that users don't run into surprises like an invalidated genesis block (which can happen when running code advertised by NUD). So, as long as the master branch (based on NUD's releases) remains stable, the convenience branch is currently fully compatible. Lol, so what is this? a takeover? I think that probably qualifies for most useless wallet update ever. Incidentally, what is a "professional altcoin"?
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kalisto
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July 16, 2014, 10:12:40 PM Last edit: July 16, 2014, 10:29:01 PM by kalisto |
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I would like to make the NUD community aware of the convenience branch of the oldest known NUD git repository: https://github.com/nudnud/nud-unofficial/tree/convenience. First patch: Making sure that addresses always begin with "N". Motivation: In more professional altcoins, different starting characters usually mean different address types. So, having sometimes "M" and sometimes "N" for NUD addresses seems confusing. Please note that unlike the code released by the user NUD, the convenience branch is developed carefully, making sure that users don't run into surprises like an invalidated genesis block (which can happen when running code advertised by NUD). So, as long as the master branch (based on NUD's releases) remains stable, the convenience branch is currently fully compatible. Lol, so what is this? a takeover? I think that probably qualifies for most useless wallet update ever. Incidentally, what is a "professional altcoin"? No its not a takeover. Just a patch to make sure when a new address is generated it starts with a N. If accepted by the NUD dev it can be merged into the main branch. The last sentence is a bit weird but their is no harm as far as i can see, doldgigger just want to help fixing some less important things. A "professional altcoin" is a coin that gets community involvement by people that know how to code and help a dev with active development ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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zikomoto
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July 16, 2014, 10:33:19 PM |
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is there any pool , and also some rigs to rent to mine this , or there's something i might need to know ?
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July 17, 2014, 12:46:01 AM |
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is there any pool , and also some rigs to rent to mine this , or there's something i might need to know ?
CPU coin current! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 17, 2014, 12:50:58 AM |
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is there any pool , and also some rigs to rent to mine this , or there's something i might need to know ?
CPU coin current! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) do we need a specific miner or just the wallet , please help i've never done that before , also i'm on linux
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July 17, 2014, 12:53:07 AM |
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is there any pool , and also some rigs to rent to mine this , or there's something i might need to know ?
CPU coin current! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) do we need a specific miner or just the wallet , please help i've never done that before , also i'm on linux Just the wallet!
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July 17, 2014, 01:07:39 AM |
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is there any pool , and also some rigs to rent to mine this , or there's something i might need to know ?
amazon aws instances. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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zikomoto
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July 17, 2014, 01:07:56 AM |
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is there any pool , and also some rigs to rent to mine this , or there's something i might need to know ?
CPU coin current! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) do we need a specific miner or just the wallet , please help i've never done that before , also i'm on linux Just the wallet! thank's now i installed the wallet in a vps with 4 processors to test it , what's the command line ?
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zikomoto
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July 17, 2014, 01:32:47 AM |
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daemon won't sync , i'm not using tor just clearnet and i added all nodes in dnsseed in net.cpp to be sure plus the website ip , anyone having the same problem ?
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July 17, 2014, 01:36:20 AM |
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is there any pool , and also some rigs to rent to mine this , or there's something i might need to know ?
amazon aws instances. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) No pool. No cpu miner. Hopefully OP will release a stratum hash or cpu miner mod at some point or this coin will be stuck in the wallet till whenever.
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July 17, 2014, 02:21:11 AM |
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daemon won't sync , i'm not using tor just clearnet and i added all nodes in dnsseed in net.cpp to be sure plus the website ip , anyone having the same problem ?
"addr" : "203.195.238.155:7333", "addr" : "195.154.217.171:7333", "addr" : "62.210.217.242:7333", "addr" : "116.27.95.150:7333", "addr" : "46.72.85.41:7333", "addr" : "60.179.54.173:7333"
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zikomoto
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July 17, 2014, 02:53:43 AM |
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daemon won't sync , i'm not using tor just clearnet and i added all nodes in dnsseed in net.cpp to be sure plus the website ip , anyone having the same problem ?
"addr" : "203.195.238.155:7333", "addr" : "195.154.217.171:7333", "addr" : "62.210.217.242:7333", "addr" : "116.27.95.150:7333", "addr" : "46.72.85.41:7333", "addr" : "60.179.54.173:7333" Thank you , it worked but seems like i'm on a wrong block wallet is showing 13449 and still going
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July 17, 2014, 03:24:21 AM |
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Why First Anonymous at the title? 50 reward/block? Why use a thief as the logo ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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kalisto
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July 17, 2014, 08:32:56 AM |
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Why First Anonymous at the title? 50 reward/block? Why use a thief as the logo ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) click here, yes, click hereAs you read through those links you see NUD's anonimity works on 2 levels, network level (by using tor) and blockchain level (by using delegates). Try find a coin that also does this ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Second; Maybe Edison was a thief but his idea's on money brought us Bitcoin 5 years ago. You can read it in the second link.
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doldgigger
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July 17, 2014, 11:14:04 AM |
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Well, considering that you probably also hold some NUD, I understand that you may think that it is best to mute me so no one looking into this thread will become aware of the scams that were ran using NUD. But a good altcoin doesn't need such tactics. We can work together to create an altcoin community which is actually perceived as a benefit by all involved parties, with no exchanges being scammed, no one noticing that his coins are gone, etc.
It is not rocket science to run a coin in a reasonable way. But it requires the dedication to actually do so.
No one is denying the fact that scams were ran on NUD by scrypt miners exploiting a bug in the early release, thus it was decided upon that the "scammers" will be rewarded 10% of their scrypt mined coins for their contirbution to the network for revealing the bug. If you don't think that the decision was just you can freely open your own thread and start a fork, I very much doubt that you'd get a lot of followers that are willing to sabotage the well-being of the network in exchange for their unjustly mined NUD. The decision was made in such a manner as to upset the least miners, had we not reduced the fraudulently mined coins to 10% people would claim that I abused the bug to mine coins for myself (e.g. a premine). Well, who saw the code first, and could actually schedule a 7-day scrypt mining operation? It was you. Everybode else had to wait for the release. So, I doubt any smart person would be deceived by the rude wording you use for the scrypt miners whose success was enabled by the software you released. Reducing the premine to 10% does not change this. But this topic is really boring. What I find more interesting than deciding about how much reduction a premine needs in order to look less suspicious are things like the altcoin exchange scamming scheme seen on this thread. No doubt a smart move in order to secure some tiny profit, but I am somewhat sceptical if it will benefit the altcoin world. Where there is original innovation there will always be bugs present, if you don't like that you might want to invest into some clonecoin.
Some innovators rather invest in decent skills, which buys them a community which doesn't have to run buggy software. What? Who could schedule a 7-day scrypt mining operation? Uhhhh.......anyone with a few bucks for an ASIC or a few fractions of a BTC to rent some mining power? You aren't making sense. Looks like some people were lucky finding it out early. But the only party which could schedule the operation would be the dev and his team, because at the point the coin was released, there was the "bcrypt" fake advertisement. The scrypt bug was discovered very quickly after the coin was launched, it was no big secret. Can you please point me toward anyone who still says they never got their 10% from after the blockchain reset? How does angering a bunch of miners, cutting the coin count to 10% (which would include the coins that the dev supposedly secretly mined using a bug that wasn't even secret?), and actively discouraging NUD from being trading on an exchange be profitable at all? Either NUD is legit, or the dev is guilty of running the most convoluted scam ever conceived in crypto.
Well, did you follow what happened to cryptcoin? After seeing this, even highly convoluted altcoin scams don't look too far-fetched anymore. These things happen. But it's nothing to whine about. NUD still has some interesting technology included, so we should all work together to make the coin a bit more legit than a "well, we can't prove it through the blockchain because we deleted it, but no one complains about missing coins anymore". If you have seen how aggressive some people on this forum are towards people who want to look a bit deeper into potential fishyness, it is pretty obvious that a "no one complains about missing coins anymore" statement is worth nothing. A small fraction of the community (probably those who made the greatest profit early) probably scared away many interested user through their "shut up if you lost coins" attitude. In my opinion, a lot of users contributed to the coin early on, and even putting off one early contributor is a pity. Also, I find it boring to discuss about legit or not. Blockchain crypto allows us to create transparency, so every user can see what the coin is about. Think about it: What is more trustworthy towards a new user? A coin where the blockchain clearly shows an scrypt and a bcrypt phase (wouldn't be the first coin which had multiple phases)? Or a coin where the forum advertises an attitude of "we call everyone who asks about the pre-mine a faggot"? The bottom line being: Even if the 10% decision was a good one (which I doubt, even though it would be profitable for me since I did not engage in the scrypt phase), any decent developer could have incorporated it in the blockchain, creating hard source-code- and blockchain-based evidence, rather than some warm words on a forum. The irony is everyone was too busy bitching and moaning about all the NUD they lost after the blockchain reset to realize that CPU mining was piss easy. I solo mined more NUD with 3 desktop CPUs and 1 laptop in the week after the reset than I did BEFORE the blockchain reset with scrypt mining.
Indeed ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . As said, the actions of the dev led to more NUD for me because I did not mine scrypt. But I'm not an opportunist. I think the merit of cryptocurrencies is that they allow us to create consensus over a community. And some of the early actions were rather bad for having more than some early stakeholders to trust in the coin.
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July 17, 2014, 11:22:30 AM |
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the coin logo looks like serious...
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doldgigger
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July 17, 2014, 11:32:29 AM |
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I would like to make the NUD community aware of the convenience branch of the oldest known NUD git repository: https://github.com/nudnud/nud-unofficial/tree/convenience. First patch: Making sure that addresses always begin with "N". Motivation: In more professional altcoins, different starting characters usually mean different address types. So, having sometimes "M" and sometimes "N" for NUD addresses seems confusing. Please note that unlike the code released by the user NUD, the convenience branch is developed carefully, making sure that users don't run into surprises like an invalidated genesis block (which can happen when running code advertised by NUD). So, as long as the master branch (based on NUD's releases) remains stable, the convenience branch is currently fully compatible. Lol, so what is this? a takeover? What do you mean by that? Have you seen how many people contribute to Bitcoin? All takeovers? I guess you may want to sit down and read a bit in order to grasp the basics of open source software and cryptocurrencies... I think that probably qualifies for most useless wallet update ever.
As you might have read (or not...), the branch was named "convenience", not "extremely useful". But let's talk again in a few weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if I see this fix (or future fixes) in some release on nud.fi... But let's be fair. Can you point me to the last fix you contributed, so I can evaluate its usefulness? Incidentally, what is a "professional altcoin"?
In my opinion, altcoin professionalism can be seen if there are some maintenance skills there, so people can afford to adopt the altcoin in their services without having to fear hardforks and blockchain restarts every week or two. And in order to achieve this, a healthy dev community is necessary. Not long ago, there was only one source for NUD fixes, and they were often controversial because they were rather disruptive (don't want to roll it all up again, read it up on the early pages of the thread). But people hardly had a choice. When people have a choice, they can decide themselves which updates create problems for them and which do not.
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kalisto
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July 17, 2014, 11:43:35 AM Last edit: July 17, 2014, 11:56:14 AM by kalisto |
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I've read your last post a little wrong doldgigger so excuse me for deleting it. I think you make some fair points indeed. The bscrypt fix with 10% wasnt the most elegant one but atleast all tx id's are recorded in this topic and you can check my block explorer for the distribution started by the dev. edit: even when the first 500 blocks where used as a premine (25,000 coins) it would result in a premine of 0.1% and we all know most coins are distributed to people involved in mining this coin from the start. No worries from my side ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 17, 2014, 03:18:02 PM |
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I have not mined since the initial day of release.
Just tried to update wallet to version 0.0.0.4 When I run the wallet-qt I get "Incorrect or no genesis block found. Wrong datatdir for network?"
I downloaded from NUD site from OP.
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If you are going to leave your BTC on an exchange please send it to this address instead 1GH3ub3UUHbU5qDJW5u3E9jZ96ZEmzaXtG, I will at least use the money better than someone who steals it from the exchange. Thanks ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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