merc84
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November 22, 2015, 12:02:47 PM |
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Are we still on target for 25th?
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waecrum
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November 22, 2015, 01:31:12 PM |
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Is there a way to have an armv7 build (Odroid, Raspberry Pi 2) for the next release?
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macorcina
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November 22, 2015, 03:43:23 PM |
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.
If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.
Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets
Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway. All this part of discussion start about expiration time of trust key. Now trust key expire in 24 hour, if you read few pages behind, you will see all opinions about 3 day, 7 day expiration time. I offered different point of view, and suggestion..... After all, in future we will see results ..... mathematically, in numbers, number of running wallets, and other numbers
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AliMan
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November 22, 2015, 04:45:47 PM |
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.
If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.
Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets
Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway. Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms).
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merc84
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November 22, 2015, 08:32:45 PM |
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.
If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.
Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets
Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway. Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms). Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards.
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irwanjabryg
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November 23, 2015, 07:42:42 AM |
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.
If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.
Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets
Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway. Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms). Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards. There is no trade for two days back, Is The project is still running
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merc84
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November 23, 2015, 09:13:32 AM |
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If you read back just a few posts you would know the project is still very much alive and well.
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merc84
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November 23, 2015, 09:29:48 PM |
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.
If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.
Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets
Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway. Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms). Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards. I've not tested a 280X, although I have one, but I would guess it'll do more than 60MH/s with some OC, but that's just a guess. 7950 at stock boost core clock (1000/1500) will do 43.63MH/s, though, with better code. 280x does 46 mh/s @ 1100/1250 with current miner.
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merc84
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November 24, 2015, 09:55:11 AM Last edit: November 24, 2015, 10:46:46 AM by merc84 |
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Yes i have 5x 280x rig, and tbh i haven't run the miner recently i'll just fire it up and check exact speed.
Edit: Its more like 42.3Mh/s per 280x
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merc84
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November 24, 2015, 01:28:44 PM |
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Yes i have 5x 280x rig, and tbh i haven't run the miner recently i'll just fire it up and check exact speed.
Edit: Its more like 42.3Mh/s per 280x
Are you using the official miner from the Niro site? I tested it and got half that. Yes I'm using skminer v1.2 with catalyst 15.7 dll's.
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merc84
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November 24, 2015, 08:40:11 PM |
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Honestly can't remember if its default.
"algorithm" : "sk1024_djm", "gpu-engine" : "1100", "gpu-memclock" : "1250", "gpu-shaders" : "2048", "gpu-threads" : "1", "gpu-vddc" : "0", "gpu-powertune" : "0", "intensity" : "22", "xintensity" : "0", "rawintensity" : "0", "thread-concurrency" : "8192", "lookup-gap" : "2", "worksize" : "256",
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Supercomputing
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November 24, 2015, 09:19:36 PM |
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Miner version: 1.2 (cleaned up to compile and run on Linux) OS: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Driver: 14.9 GPU: R9 280X (stock)
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511517 39.5 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511517 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:00 39.5 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511517 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:11 39.6 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511517 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:22
[Block Nonce = 989773809] 00000000035f7878e09d8e2c442be919182bf0f6caed9b14e2ef1252e40b6925f30bfed7aa6c70\ e444fba536bd560b643886ca5a83fe35d453367bfc1c0c687cee6d815eeab873cfea8acdd2b887\ 9560e8b8fa81c1339c1bff614ac7113abdac2085c684582845cfca6728eb848709e7d77411e141\ a6126122709105b5da1cda
******* BLOCK with 38 Leading Zero Bits FOUND *******
...Preparing for Block Submission...
Submitting Block... [MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network. [MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511518 39.3 MH/s | 1 Blks ACC=1 REJ=0 | Height = 511518 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:34 39.3 MH/s | 1 Blks ACC=1 REJ=0 | Height = 511518 | Diff = 37 0-bits | 00:29:45
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merc84
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November 24, 2015, 09:37:16 PM |
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Honestly can't remember if its default.
"algorithm" : "sk1024_djm", "gpu-engine" : "1100", "gpu-memclock" : "1250", "gpu-shaders" : "2048", "gpu-threads" : "1", "gpu-vddc" : "0", "gpu-powertune" : "0", "intensity" : "22", "xintensity" : "0", "rawintensity" : "0", "thread-concurrency" : "8192", "lookup-gap" : "2", "worksize" : "256",
Close enough to it. I don't get it. Unless you have 290X cards. Definitely 280x
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merc84
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November 24, 2015, 10:31:11 PM |
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Looks good cant wait to try it
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Supercomputing
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November 24, 2015, 10:49:32 PM |
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@Wolf0 Downloaded from: https://github.com/BitSlapper/SKMinerApart from fixing a few bugs and adding some debugging code, I’ve only made a one line change to the OpenCL (sk1024_djm.cl) kernel code. It would take a few hours to optimize the OpenCL kernel (using CodeXL) to reduce the VGPRs usage thereby increasing the occupancy. But since you’ve already done so and your miner is significantly faster, would you mind sharing your code?
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SecretsCoin
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November 24, 2015, 11:39:22 PM |
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@The existing system already strikes a balance between large and small holders by restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet is allowed to create.
If you implement more aggressive curve for this sistem ( restricting the number of consecutive pos blocks a single wallet), then in result you will reach breakpoint to stimulate the corresponding number of 24hour runing wallets.
Major problem of pos, compared to mining is that POS is more reward for rich, and small or nothing for small, this is reason why all pos coins suffer, insufficiently willing people to run wallets
Viz already discussed increasing the restriction on consecutive blocks just a few days ago. However it does not seem unfair those who invest more get greater returns thats just how life works. What i mean to say is your reward is proportional to ur investment how is that a "major problem"? I also fail to see how pos reward is somehow different from mining reward as the "rich" can easily afford more/better mining hardware anyway. Mining reward is a different ball game, For a farm, may be. But even with having a couple of decent GPUs, NIRO's miner has always been the bottleneck for the green team, not really the hardware, so the 'rich' concept wouldn't make sense in this case (except for the already mentioned, farms). Even with the under optimized nvidia miner a gtx 970 is 50mh/s + which is slightly faster than r9 280x @ 46mh/s +/- considering the power efficiency of mawell the difference is not that great. Having said that it will be great to see more optimized miners for both amd and nvidia cards. I've not tested a 280X, although I have one, but I would guess it'll do more than 60MH/s with some OC, but that's just a guess. 7950 at stock boost core clock (1000/1500) will do 43.63MH/s, though, with better code. 280x does 46 mh/s @ 1100/1250 with current miner. what;s about others?
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Supercomputing
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November 24, 2015, 11:43:41 PM |
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@Wolf0 Downloaded from: https://github.com/BitSlapper/SKMinerApart from fixing a few bugs and adding some debugging code, I’ve only made a one line change to the OpenCL (sk1024_djm.cl) kernel code. It would take a few hours to optimize the OpenCL kernel (using CodeXL) to reduce the VGPRs usage thereby increasing the occupancy. But since you’ve already done so and your miner is significantly faster, would you mind sharing your code? Perhaps when the miner I'm working on for Viz is released. In the meantime, I'll show you my CodeXL analysis for Tahiti if you show me yours for the one you have. I didn't optimize the existing kernel, really, I rewrote it, but it's surprising that such a small edit would do so well. Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jotw7xgp2re8qwi/Nov-24-2015_17-24-21.zip?dl=0
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Supercomputing
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November 25, 2015, 01:33:47 AM |
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Since you've shown me your code as well, I'll show you mine - but I want your opinion on it. I think it's more clear, clean, and concise than the original: https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/sk1024_djm.clAwesome, I will take a look at it sometime tonight or tomorrow and report back.
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Supercomputing
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November 25, 2015, 01:56:53 AM |
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@Wolf0
Miner version: 1.2 (with Wolf0 OpenCL kernel) OS: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Driver: 14.9 GPU: R9 280X (stock)
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511975 60.8 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:06:29 60.8 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:06:40 60.9 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:06:51 60.9 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:02 61.0 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:13 61.0 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:24 61.0 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:35 61.1 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:46 61.1 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511975 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:07:57 [MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511976 61.1 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511976 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:08:08 61.2 MH/s | 0 Blks ACC=0 REJ=0 | Height = 511976 | Diff = 36 0-bits | 00:08:19 [MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 511977
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nara1892
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November 25, 2015, 02:39:23 AM Last edit: November 25, 2015, 02:50:04 AM by nara1892 |
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waiting for wallet and add on polo
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