[350 GH/s] "Eligius" (experimental) pool: almost feeless PPS, hoppers welcome

[zoro]

i think it is 1 or 2 blocks per day! that is my impression

[1715019056]

1715019056

[jarly]

We need more people to join :-/

Also, are you planning on implementing the threshold signed message thingy?

[Luke-Jr]

Also, are you planning on implementing the threshold signed message thingy?

When there's a final standard for it (eg, merged to mainline git), probably. That way you can set your minimum payout by signing a command with your payout address.

In case anyone else noticed and is confused by it, we had an orphan block today.

[gmaxwell]

Another idea I had, was to put it back to paying out tiny coins again, but also accepting transactions using those coins at no fee. The two problems with this plan would be: 1) the clients will still think they need to pay a fee unless you hack them, and 2) it leaves less space in our blocks for normal with-fee transactions. Currently undecided. It also wouldn't be very easy to write.

How about…

Keep a queue of pool miners that need to be paid (say, balance >0.01 at the end of this block) ordered by how much they're owed.

First add miners who are owed more than 2 BTC to the block you're working on. Then add transactions ordered by profit. Then add miners owed less than 2 BTC until there is no room left.  Alternatively,  treat the payments as transactions having a transaction fee equal to 1/100th of what they are owed and just rank them with the normal transactions. I guess you'll need to to do a little fancy footwork for computing the size of the generated transaction.

In this way people will get paid out as fast as possible when the volume of paying transactions is low, and slower when it is high. This would reduce the number of paying transactions the pool must forgo in order to pay mining wages, though I suppose there aren't any currently .

You could make this more attractive by changing the payouts to include the fees, since then any slowness in the payout would be directly related to increased income for the miners— and just increase your average pool payment per second a bit to compensate.

[cosurgi]

OK, I hope that your pool is going to be stable, and I joined again.

Also I hope that you eliminated all possible ways of cheating on other pool users:
- disconnecting after 50% (or such) shares, till block, were contributed
- submitting the same share multiple times

and perhaps others, that I forgot about.

[foxmulder]

Slightly more informative ...

Code:

#!/usr/bin/perl

use JSON;
use LWP::Simple;
use Data::Dumper;

my $acc = $1;
my $data = decode_json(get('http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/pool/balances.json'))->{$acc};
my $speed = decode_json(get('http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/pool/hashrate.php?addr='.$acc));

printf "oldest: %4d-%02d-%02d %02d:%02d:%02d\n",
    sub { $_[5]+1900, $_[4]+1, @_[3,2,1] }->(localtime($data->{oldest}));
printf "newest: %4d-%02d-%02d %02d:%02d:%02d\n",
    sub { $_[5]+1900, $_[4]+1, @_[3,2,1] }->(localtime($data->{newest}));

printf "User shares: %d\n", $speed->{'shares'};
printf("Balance: %.12f\n", ( ($data->{balance})*1e-8 ));
printf "User speed: %8.4f GHash/sec (%.6f MHash/sec)\n", $speed->{'hashrate'} * 1e-9, $speed->{'hashrate'} * 1e-6;

my($total) = get('http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/pool/hashrate.txt');
$total =~ s/\n//g;
printf "Pool speed: %8.4f GHash/sec\n", $total * 1e-9;

I've got this :

#./luke.pl my_addr
oldest: 1970-01-01 07:00:00
newest: 1970-01-01 07:00:00
User shares: 1254
Balance: 0.000000000000
User speed:  17.9530 GHash/sec (17952.963297 MHash/sec)
Pool speed:  17.9243 GHash/sec

any clues why it pointed the wrong time and cannot retrieve my details ?, i have installed json-perl and libio-all-lwp-perl.

[Edit]

Editing $acc var to reflect my address is working fine.

[Grinder]

any clues why it pointed the wrong time and cannot retrieve my details ?, i have installed json-perl and libio-all-lwp-perl.

The parameter can't be read with
my $acc = $1;
it needs to be
my $acc = shift;
or
my $acc = $ARGV[0];

[netxshare]

I thought I would just let everyone know I added support for luke's pool to my windows sidebar gadget you can check out the forum post if you want to use it.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7071.0

[aahzmundus]

Thx netxshare, I appreciate you adding this feature as looking up this info was a little bit of a hassle for me before!

[Veldy]

I just wanted to let you know guys that this pool works very good for me. I am getting exactly the expected amounts.

None are still confirmed. but it's OK. I would like to know how invalid blocks get handled.

Also, I think that if all of us, who have external IP, connect our clients to his pool to receive newly found blocks we will a bit decrease the chance of invalid blocks - because solved blocks will spread faster in p2p network.

luke, is it enough to "-addnode pool.bitcoin.dashjr.org" upon our bitcoind start? or "-addnode 173.242.112.53" ?

You don't need an external IP if you are connected to broadband behind a router (your router already has the external IP).  The latest bitcoin client (and thus bitcoind) supports uPNP, so if your router supports it, turn it on.  My client currently has 64 connections.  Otherwise, you have to forward port 8333 to the machine your client (or bitcoind daemon) is running on to get more than 8 connections [and to be actively part of the P2P network].

[wumpus]

Just switched here from Slush's miner

[Xer]

Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 09:52:45, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 09:52:52, long poll: new block 000038296ef22dd6
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 09:52:52, long poll: new block 000038296ef22dd6
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 09:55:21, long poll: new block 00002cbbed3655b0
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 09:55:24, long poll: new block 00002cbbed3655b0
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 09:59:37, long poll: new block 0000665c47d2c95a
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 09:59:37, long poll: new block 0000665c47d2c95a
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:03:40, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:03:41, long poll: new block 0000851c59975ed5
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:03:41, long poll: new block 0000851c59975ed5
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:05:41, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:05:43, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:06:44, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:08:46, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:08:46, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:09:46, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:09:47, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:09:47, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:10:38, long poll: new block 00003dee6feac479
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:10:41, long poll: new block 00003dee6feac479
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:17:14, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:17:17, long poll: new block 000005cdf4cce15c
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:17:17, long poll: new block 000005cdf4cce15c
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:18:31, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:23:34, long poll: new block 000009c7a8c83b56
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:23:34, long poll: new block 000009c7a8c83b56
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:24:30, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:26:06, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:29:25, long poll: new block 000077f3ac07a6cd
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:29:25, long poll: new block 000077f3ac07a6cd
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:31:23, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:31:24, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:32:24, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:38:29, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:41:38, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:45:38, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:47:02, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:47:03, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:49:31, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 10:55:27, long poll: new block 00000b9a443e4b31
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:55:27, long poll: new block 00000b9a443e4b31
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:00:08, long poll: new block 0000472862cdf745
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:00:08, long poll: new block 0000472862cdf745
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:03:46, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:03:47, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:03:52, long poll: new block 00008d7940f92c49
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:03:52, long poll: new block 00008d7940f92c49
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:04:50, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:07:52, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:09:24, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:09:24, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:09:27, long poll: new block 000023e70f6bf0a4
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:09:27, long poll: new block 000023e70f6bf0a4
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:14:34, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:14:35, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:14:35, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:17:39, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:19:53, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:19:54, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:20:01, long poll: new block 000022e98973e76f
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:20:01, long poll: new block 000022e98973e76f
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:21:21, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:24:24, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:26:25, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:26:25, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:26:25, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:26:26, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:30:13, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:30:13, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:30:15, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:30:16, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:30:18, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:30:19, long poll: new block 00005712c78801e8
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:30:22, long poll: new block 00005712c78801e8
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:31:19, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:33:52, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:33:53, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:34:52, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:34:53, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:34:53, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:38:30, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:38:32, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:41:04, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:41:05, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:43:06, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:50:42, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:55:14, long poll: new block 00000086c33efc03
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 11:55:14, long poll: new block 00000086c33efc03
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 11:57:12, warning: job finished, miner is idle
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 12:00:20, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 6950": 08/05/2011 12:00:20, warning: job finished, miner is idle

Are you now also under ddos luke-jr?

[Pieter Wuille]

No problems here, during the past 10 hours, I had only 0.77% stale/invalid shares.

[Luke-Jr]

Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 09:52:45, Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC
Listener for "EL 5850": 08/05/2011 10:05:41, warning: job finished, miner is idle

Are you now also under ddos luke-jr?

Hope not. I saw the "miner is idle" a lot when I had very congested (busy) bandwidth. Then I configured my router to prioritize port 8337. No problems since then...

[BurningToad]

Pool seems to be working great for me, thanks lukejr!

[jarly]

I made Coin Control so you can view your Eligius stats

http://coin-control.appspot.com/

[Marceloide]

I made Coin Control so you can view your Eligius stats

http://coin-control.appspot.com/

how? idk how

[Miner-TE]

http://coin-control.appspot.com/addr/<your payout Addr>

IE http://coin-control.appspot.com/addr/12n24vLRZfvapeZAMsQjPaigweKkeZXpak

[Marceloide]

thanks a lot!

[jarly]

By the way, if you have any feature requests, just PM me.