[350 GH/s] "Eligius" (experimental) pool: almost feeless PPS, hoppers welcome

[Luke-Jr]

possibly, it just seems a bit strange how its only since i moved to the euro server

Unless the euro server is still independant and we are waiting for one of the euro guys to find a block

Yep, Europe has only found 4 blocks so far.

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[Bitcoineruk]

dammit, so we cannot get at our BTC untill another block is found?

[Luke-Jr]

dammit, so we cannot get at our BTC untill another block is found?

Without a block, there is no bitcoin to get.

[Bitcoineruk]

Ok matey, thankyou for the prompt response - it is very much appreciated! Might have to leave this one then as I like to sell on a daily basis

[Dominic Sayers]

Hi Luke-jr,

I started mining in the Eligius pool based on the information I read here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Eligius

It was only when I read this thread that I realised MyBitCoin addresses wouldn't work.

Can my balance be transferred to a different address? It's only 0.01 BTC but times are hard...

[Sukrim]

Well, or you could just wait a few days until more ppl join the EU pool... or even advertise it.

@Luke: Would it be possible to automatically move miners to a pool that is best for them? So you always connect your miner to the "main server" but it then actually calls the closest one (similar to Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS).

Also 2 more questions:
Are transaction fees mined handed out as well?
Any special anti-cheating voodoo concerning shares (devaluation of earlier shares for example) or just simple: own shares/all shares = payout?

[rampone]

http://eligius.st/~artefact2/us/1PckSW8JtBiTv3eEeRbSUxw5uwhvkzGKRu.htm


Hey, I was wondering why my balance was going down while i was mining, thats why i switched to another pool in the meantime.

Could somebody explain that to me?

[TurdHurdur]

http://eligius.st/~artefact2/us/1PckSW8JtBiTv3eEeRbSUxw5uwhvkzGKRu.htm


Hey, I was wondering why my balance was going down while i was mining, thats why i switched to another pool in the meantime.

Could somebody explain that to me?

You were not keeping up with the pool average hash rate.

[rampone]

Mhh kay, seems like a sophisticated formula, could somebody post it?

So if a block would have been found in the time, it would have spiked again?

[Sukrim]

Mhh kay, seems like a sophisticated formula, could somebody post it?

So if a block would have been found in the time, it would have spiked again?

The amount shown is your fixed balance + your income from the current round combined (might be great btw. to have a different colour for the fixed balance in that graph too!)
If you have 50 cents from previous rounds and would earn 10 cents this round, it shows 60 cents. However if this round more and more people join the pool, the pool will find blocks faster - but your own contribution gets lower.

Let's say, the pool hashrate doubles during this round. This means the amount shown falls to 55 cents (if you keep your hashrate constant). It can be expected in the longer run that you will receive these 5 cents twice as fast as the 10 cents though.

As soon as the block has been found, you will see a sharp spike that will even out to the next expected fixed amount after a few shares.

[Luke-Jr]

Can my balance be transferred to a different address? It's only 0.01 BTC but times are hard...

If you can prove you own the original address, I can possibly transfer the balance. To date, proving this is extremely difficult. I suggest anyone with such a balance leave it under 0.16 BTC (which I am considering moving the minimum payout to) until signmessage is standardized.

@Luke: Would it be possible to automatically move miners to a pool that is best for them? So you always connect your miner to the "main server" but it then actually calls the closest one (similar to Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS).

DNS is stateless UDP, so it can use IP anycast. Mining is stateful TCP, so the same concept does not apply. My affiliate has some kind of GeoDNS that can resolve a domain based on lookup origin, which may work. He is pretty busy right now though, so it might be a while. Expect "mining.eligius.st" to resolve to a geographically-ideal server when he gets the time for this.

Are transaction fees mined handed out as well?

No, as state in the first post, the pool retains all transaction fees. Technically speaking, it will use them for payouts, but it simply does not include them in calculating balances.

Any special anti-cheating voodoo concerning shares (devaluation of earlier shares for example) or just simple: own shares/all shares = payout?

Simple own shares/all shares. I consider devaluation of earlier shares to in fact be the real "cheating". There is no evidence that someone should be paid any less simply because their work was earlier, or paid more because their work was later.

[xanadu]

I pointed a couple of miners at this pool yesterday to see how it works, the following stats are after about 10-12 hours of work.

One one machine, that has two identical 6870's installed and there is a dramatic difference between the work rates:
Card #1, 268 M/hash, 2920 accepted and 110 rejected
Card #2, 268 M/hash, 1879 accepted and 54 rejected

That is a 35% difference between identical cards!  The accepted/rejected ratios are nearly the same at around 3%.

Any idea why is one card producing so much more work vs. the other?

[Artefact2]

The amount shown is your fixed balance + your income from the current round combined (might be great btw. to have a different colour for the fixed balance in that graph too!)

I like this. I'll try to make this happen soon.

In the meantime, the stats main page has been improved : there's a hashing power graph and a list of recently found blocks. Check it out here !

Edit: done. I had to reset the individual graphes, but this time should be the last.

[Bitcoineruk]

Now that is VERY interesting, it is stating on the page you have made we found a block today, yet my balance still hasnt been transfered across, now the balance is at 7.5BTC

Whats happening please Luke (uinless of course the fact is that the time isnt euro / uk time on the page thats been made above?)

[jkminkov]

how to move to EU server? stop miner and start again?

[Luke-Jr]

Now that is VERY interesting, it is stating on the page you have made we found a block today, yet my balance still hasnt been transfered across, now the balance is at 7.5BTC

I cannot do any research without an address to look up... There is currently about 10 BTC delayed today, due to a lot of the sub-1-BTC-per-day-earners reaching their minimum and being paid out.

how to move to EU server? stop miner and start again?

change domain to eu.mining.eligius.st

[Bitcoineruk]

Now that is VERY interesting, it is stating on the page you have made we found a block today, yet my balance still hasnt been transfered across, now the balance is at 7.5BTC

I cannot do any research without an address to look up... There is currently about 10 BTC delayed today, due to a lot of the sub-1-BTC-per-day-earners reaching their minimum and being paid out.

Hi mate, I pm'd you ages ago with the account (a fair few hours ago) but the details are

15sE1b7Y6rLMBwwyBLGwSBTQzvB8csUfrX

But i believe I was paid out 3.14 BTC from that last block, so it must just be we havent found a block since, although ithought that you had combined the EU and US servers so when they found a block, i would presume we get paid too?

ALso, is there a current way of finding out just how much the server thinks me alone is hashing (should be in the 1 gh/s range)

[Luke-Jr]

although ithought that you had combined the EU and US servers so when they found a block, i would presume we get paid too?

They are still separate, and probably will be for a while. Combining them is not trivial due to the immediate payout stuff.

ALso, is there a current way of finding out just how much the server thinks me alone is hashing (should be in the 1 gh/s range)

http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/hashrate.php?addr=15sE1b7Y6rLMBwwyBLGwSBTQzvB8csUfrX

[Bitcoineruk]

I knew whinging about it would solve a block

[Bitcoineruk]

EU server just had a MASSIVE amount of luck!!!