ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread

[taipo]

It turns out that it was a preorder.

What is a preorder?
Miners are put up for sale where they are yet to be developed to the state where they are ready to be shipped, this can span from not even being designed at all through to being put on the market before they have been properly tested.

Lesson 1: With every preorder there is risk. Learn to identify when you are participating in a preorder for yourself, nevermind what the majority say, you decide for yourself. Then decide whether you want to preorder or not.
Lesson 2: All preorders are subject to a final analysis which in most cases comes under spec. This one is one of them, but not by much, and at least they have the decency to make good on that.
Lesson 3: Don't preorder and then whinge.

[dropt]

Kind of harsh.  Your $6k is just a drop in the bucket.  If you are going to play this game, you need to consider it gambling and roll the dice.  I'm just a hobby miner but still have over $20k in miners.  There's folks on here that take the game way more seriously than I do and I don't see them too concerned.

But come on, attacking a guy's *parent's house* is just low

Imagine how pissed he's gonna be if he doesn't make his money back.  

[halcy0n3]

forgive me if this has been answered. Didnt see it.

Does the coupon apply at one coupon can be used for one future order?

I ask cause I ordered 20 s3-b1

so if i get 20 coupons, i have to buy 20 more units to use them?

[faetos]

bitmain's site has been updated with the coupon or refund app. It's located at the bottom under My Applications. You may have to log back in to see it. It basically just covers the S3 purchases:

//You have bought B1~B3 of S3. We will issue you a 10% value coupon. However, you have the option to give up the coupon and apply a 7.7% refund.//

Deciding what to do at the moment. Leaning towards refund.

EDIT: confirmed, it's only on your S3 orders. Went the refund route since I won't buy anymore until they're in stock.

[not.you]

When we were doing the first mass production, we found that not all of the S3’s DC/DC module could be stable enough to support the 478GH/s speed. After long time testing, all of the S3 run stably at 441GH/s...

...Many of the customers may be lucky to find that their S3 can be overclocked to 478GH/s.

I wish I knew what the instability was exactly.  I think like most people the first thing I intend to do is OC it.  Do I need to be watching it for crashing?  Fire? I mean assuming it doesn't immediately start smoking or throwing huge numbers of HW errors.

did you ever tried to overclock S1? in 24 hours you can see which one could handle it and which one could not-blades start to accumulate XX, sometimes miner becomes usntable with hashing speed fluctuating wildly. however, this time it is a different component (edit: resistors, thanksnot chips themselves), so I would do it cautiously if at all.

I only have one S1 and it OC'd without any issues.  In fact, based on what I read about other people's experiences I got a good one because the HW error rate is exceptionally low even OC'd.  The X's accumulate in the web interface from time to time but it doesn't effect hashing rate at all on mine.

[whonesta]

forgive me if this has been answered. Didnt see it.

Does the coupon apply at one coupon can be used for one future order?

I ask cause I ordered 20 s3-b1

so if i get 20 coupons, i have to buy 20 more units to use them?

+1

Great question, BitMain are you going to issue 1 coupon worth 10% off total S3 purchase or will it be like the S1/S2 coupons which have to be used individually?

An answer would be nice as making a decision without it will leave only one option for me...  REFUND.

[Lowell904]

I was only planning on getting 1 S3 but since I had to order 2 of them, the refund is looking good.

Thank you Bitmain for making this right. Lets hope the S3 performs as well as the S1.

[Swimmer63]

Taking the bitcoins.  Not that I won't add more S3's.  
I have been mining for quite a while and it's taught me this space changes quick and btc is liquidity to adapt.
Coupons may or may not be worth 10% by the time I'm ready to get more.
If they were shipping now, I would have considered the coupon offer more seriously.

For all the folks lamenting about pre-orders.  If this wait for the S3 upsets you, even though it's not late, you
absolutely do not want to pre-order from anyone else.  This is the fastest pre-order delivery time there has been in btc mining.  I really don't even consider this a pre-order.  A lot of pre-orders today don't even have a proven pcb when they start taking your money (Alpha, BFL).  STAY AWAY.
If you feel like you will miss the boat with out pre-ordering, calm down.  There are always better options available before that pre-ordered miner will get delivered.  There were no real preorders for the S1, S2, the Dragon miner, Habeneros, GoldRush boards, etc.  Always options.

[Phosphorous]

I took the refund. A bird in hand better than 2 in the bush. I can decide at a later point to buy more S3s or not without the "pressure" to use my coupon. And I can barter for coupons on here probably. It's not worth waiting/gambling on that extra 2.3% of value.

[gallery2000]

Should I accept the 7.7% in fiat or btc?  Which one should I choose?

[whonesta]

Swimmer makes sense, Refund applied for. I am sure I will buy more S3's but process is too "final" and loosely explained.

[faetos]

Should I accept the 7.7% in fiat or btc?  Which one should I choose?

you only get it in BTC - the app asks for your BTC wallet address for the refund.

[philipma1957]

to those that applied for a refund on batch one please let us know when you get one.

Also It is late I had a few beers and I am tired .  I think I will crash and decide what to do on tue around 9 am. eastern standard time

[Swimmer63]

to those that applied for a refund on batch one please let us know when you get one.

Also It is late I had a few beers and I am tired .  I think I will crash and decide what to do on tue around 9 am. eastern standard time

I'm B1 and will let you know.  Nothing so far.  Sweet dreams.

[windpath]

I chose the coupon.

With the difference in the power requirements and hashrate I'd rather have the option to increase my order (I'm in batch 1) to fill the requirements of the PSUs I have standing by for delivery....

Bitmain: would you quickly offer a solution for those in each batch to add more units to an existing order (delivered at or near the same time) that meets the power specs for the initial order?

I ordered a total of 4 S3's and would like to add 2 more to my existing order (to be shipped at the same time or closely after) at a discount equal to the reduced hash rate.

Having 1,300 watt PSUs I could add 3 to each rather then 2, so I'd like another 2 units at a discount, delivered with the units from the batch I ordered in...

Thanks.

P.S. Hope they work with p2pool!
 

[Bitkoinzz]

I bet you guys get to wait a long time to see those refunds.. I would take the 10% coupon considering I will be buying, running, and selling these S3's for a loooong time.......

[faetos]

to those that applied for a refund on batch one please let us know when you get one.

Also It is late I had a few beers and I am tired .  I think I will crash and decide what to do on tue around 9 am. eastern standard time

Good call - I bought my S3s after a few. Lowered my inhibitions and my mathematical abilities.

[taipo]

It really comes down to this. Are you going to buy another Antminer s3 within the coupon period, if not then take the refund.

[xstr8guy]

I chose the coupon.

With the difference in the power requirements and hashrate I'd rather have the option to increase my order (I'm in batch 1) to fill the requirements of the PSUs I have standing by for delivery....

Bitmain: would you quickly offer a solution for those in each batch to add more units to an existing order (delivered at or near the same time) that meets the power specs for the initial order?

I ordered a total of 4 S3's and would like to add 2 more to my existing order (to be shipped at the same time or closely after) at a discount equal to the reduced hash rate.

Having 1,300 watt PSUs I could add 3 to each rather then 2, so I'd like another 2 units at a discount, delivered with the units from the batch I ordered in...

Thanks.

P.S. Hope they work with p2pool!

Did I read that right?

Why would you think that BitMain would let you jump the line and add new units to your old order?

[windpath]

Did I read that right?

Why would you think that BitMain would let you jump the line and add new units to your old order?

Because I ordered early based on a preliminary spec, and want the most for my BTC, I'm happy to pay a little extra to occupy the PSUs I (and a few of us I assume) purchased based on the initial spec. It is an easy way for Bitmain to make us all feel taken care of.... It's up to them if they want to do it.

Still a fan based on S1 experience, however if I had ordered the S2s this would be upsetting....

Just throwing out the desire of a single miner amongst the group....