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[debuni]

We are having connectivity issues right now. They should be resolved shortly.

Yes, you price feed is OK. BUT MY WHOLE AMOUNT IS BLOCKED of unresolved predictions.... from many many hours. It's just not serious. Especially during the weened action.

Ok, My bankroll is still blocked and you are still failing to grade prediction on time. So I wrote in my Tips thread:

I'm withdrawing my support from FairLay till they get their service in hands!
Why: I'm usually betting with high percentage of my bankroll and I'm making a turnover 2-5 times on my whole bank during busy weekend times and 1-2 times during working days. And they have issues with grading pick, so for example my whole bankroll was blocked today in unresolved prediction from their side for games finished 2-24!+ hours ago. So to summarize:
 - Not grading prediction on time and this cost me over 80% of bankroll gain today, as yesterday was a bad day, but today was perfect one. And my predictions are still unresolved, my money blocked and I still cannot bet.
 - Total lack of support. I wrote in their thread many hours ago about that. And their site was even dead in the morning as they are using Pinnacle feed not only for odds but EVEN for games names and leagues.

Because your lack of support and reaction and failing to grade prediction on time cost me enough.

You cannot call this a REAL SERVICE!

P.S. And to verify my words about missed 80% GROSS GAIN on my bankroll, you could check my Tips Thread will all picks from today which I did not manage to bet bet BECAUSE of your fail to grade predictions on time and my blocked bankroll.

[fairlay]

If you would name us a user account we could check the status of your bets.
In general sport bets are resolved 1-3h after the match. In some cases (<3%) it takes up to 24h. Refund of canceled bets also takes 24h. This might not be the quickest in the industry but we have for sure the best odds on average and we have reliable high liquidity. 

[debuni]

If you would name us a user account we could check the status of your bets.
In general sport bets are resolved 1-3h after the match. In some cases (<3%) it takes up to 24h. Refund of canceled bets also takes 24h. This might not be the quickest in the industry but we have for sure the best odds on average and we have reliable high liquidity. 

Why should I give you username? Could you just check your DB and resolve all unresolved predictions for all of your users?

[fairlay]

If you would name us a user account we could check the status of your bets.
In general sport bets are resolved 1-3h after the match. In some cases (<3%) it takes up to 24h. Refund of canceled bets also takes 24h. This might not be the quickest in the industry but we have for sure the best odds on average and we have reliable high liquidity. 

Why should I give you username? Could you just check your DB and resolve all unresolved predictions for all of your users?

This is not how it works. We do of course not resolve events manually - it is all done automatically. However - if a user sends us an concrete notice than we usually can at least give concrete information about the status and in some cases detect errors and fix them. Since you privately send us your username and it seems that you indeed are suffering from an failure of our system. The last 15 bets of you are resolved (as they should) but a couple of bets from yesterday are not resolved and this should clearly not happen. My first guess is that they should have been resolved during the connection trouble and something got wrong when the connection was established again. However - we have to verify this and fix it. We apologize for the trouble and the potentially missed bets.

[FairlaySupport]

@debuni You are absolutely right to complain here. Bets placed shortly before our outage 36 hours ago are not resolved yet.  This will be fixed shortly. In the future you can expect over 97% of your bets to be graded within 1-3 hours after the match has finished.

[FairlaySupport]

A short update. We do receive a lot of requests for new Prediciton Markets. However we were often unable to put them live for several reasons.

Most of the time it would have taken too much time to read into the proposed topics, at other times we were just too too late, the proposed description lacked the necessary quality to be put on our site  or there were no volume on the market.  We therefore have given special rights to one user, who is very passionate about prediction markets.  
If you like a new interesting non-sports market to be created and/or filled with with orders, please ask for it in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237290.0

[FairlayBTCPredictions]

A short update. We do receive a lot of requests for new Prediciton Markets.

Some of the requests were about Augur that is a popular topic these days, so there are now few betting markets that could be especially interesting for those of you already owning their Reputation tokens.

It is still not confirmed when will Augur have its live release so you can place bet that it will be before or after the March 1st next year: https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/will-augur-be-launched-till-march-1st-2016-1/

At the moment, Gatecoin has a REPBTC price at 0.00455, so if you think that the Augur’s reputation token (REP) price will be at least 0.005 BTC on February 15th 2016. Or not: https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/will-augurs-rep-price-be-above-0-005-btc-on-february-15th-2016-1/

And, as Augur will probably be launched after the February 15th, and you have ideas that the price will go up and down in the months following its release, you have a market on its value on January 1st 2017. If you are sure it will be above or under 0.005 on that date, you have a betting market here: https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/will-augurs-rep-price-be-above-0-005-btc-on-january-1st-2017/

Anyway, Augur is an interesting topic, so some additional markets about the value of the investment in it are going to be released as well. And if you want to see some other markets, you can send your requests here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237290.0

[oloofa]

hi fairlay,

do you have issue with grading bets?

it's been more than 24h, still not graded. thanks

[debuni]

hi fairlay,

do you have issue with grading bets?

it's been more than 24h, still not graded. thanks

Yes, they have... again.
My whole bankroll there is blocked again in ungraded picks. At start of the weekend - most bussy betting period. I even sent them an email few hours ago - nothing. This is rising my trust issues with them again.

[debuni]

Now, gentlemen, as it's not the first time when you are showing total lack of support and late grading, I still cannot bet all those bets I have for the weekend.
My question is who will compensate me it those bets ended on the plus side of the end the day, but I cannot bet them because of your failure to do your job - e.g. grade current picks?!

Bets are, or alternatives when you don't have the exact lines :

Volleyball      Budowlani Lodz Women - Polski Cukier Muszynianka Muszyna Women   28 Nov   Polski Cukier Muszynianka Muszyna Women +1.5   1.90         
Volleyball      Budowlani Lodz Women - Polski Cukier Muszynianka Muszyna Women   28 Nov   Polski Cukier Muszynianka Muszyna Women   2.72 1/3 stake         
Volleyball      SK bank Legionovia Legionowo Women - Impel Wroclaw Women   28 Nov   Impel Wroclaw Women -2.5   1.73      

Volleyball      Mutalan Riento - Korson Veto   28 Nov   Mutalan Riento   1.56         
Volleyball      Vammalan Lentopallo - Hurrikaani Loimaa   28 Nov   Vammalan Lentopallo   1.47      

         GlobalCaja Ciudad Encantada - BM Guadalajara   28 Nov   BM Guadalajara +2.0   1.69         
Handball      Angel Ximenez-Puente Genil - Bada Huesca   28 Nov   Bada Huesca +1.5   1.61      
Handball      BM Benidorm - BM Aragón   28 Nov   BM Benidorm -2.0   1.60         
Handball      TuS Nettelstedt-Lübbecke - TBV Lemgo   28 Nov   TuS Nettelstedt-Lübbecke   1.93         
Handball      ThSV Eisenach - VfL Gummersbach   28 Nov   VfL Gummersbach -1.0   1.65         
Handball      HBW Balingen-Weilstetten - DHfK Leipzig   28 Nov   DHfK Leipzig   2.22         
Handball      HBW Balingen-Weilstetten - DHfK Leipzig   28 Nov   DHfK Leipzig +1.0   1.62         
Handball      Bergischer HC - TVB 1898 Stuttgart   28 Nov   Bergischer HC -1.0   1.61         

Handball
Champions L   11/28 16:00   MKB Veszprem KC - Paris Saint-Germain   Draw (1X2-FT)   9.4   1/3 stake         
International   11/28 16:55   Russia W - Sweden W   Draw (1X2-FT)   9.5      1/3 stake      
Champions L   11/28 17:00   KS Vive Kielce - Vardar Skopje   Draw (1X2-FT)   10      1/3 stake      
Czech R.   11/28 18:00   Tatran Litovel - CS Cargo HBC Jicin   Draw (1X2-FT)   9   1/3 stake         
Czech R.   11/28 18:00   HK Mesto Lovosice - HC Gumarny Zubri   Draw (1X2-FT)   9   1/3 stake         
Champions L   11/28 19:00   Darien LogronoNaturhouse La Rioja - HC Meshkov Brest   Draw (1X2-FT)   10   1/3 stake         
Spain      11/28 19:30   BM Benidorm - CAI BM Aragon   Draw (1X2-FT)   10         1/3 stake   
Spain      11/28 19:30   Angel Ximenez Puente Genil - BM Huesca   Draw (1X2-FT)   9      1/3 stake      
Friendly   11/28 20:00   Croatia W - Germany W   Draw (1X2-FT)   10         1/3 stake   
Germany      11/28 20:00   TuS N-Lübbecke - TBV Lemgo   Draw (1X2-FT)   9.1      1/3 stake      
Germany      11/28 20:00   HBW Balingen-Weilstetten - SC DHFK Leipzig   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   9   1/3 stake      
Germany      11/28 20:00   Bergischer HC - TV Bittenfeld   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   11      1/3 stake   
Germany      11/28 20:00   ThSV Eisenach - VfL Gummersbach   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   11      1/3 stake      
Denmark      11/28 20:00   Skive fH - Skanderborg Handbold   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   10      1/3 stake      
Austria      11/28 20:00   JURI Union Leoben - SG Spigo West Wien   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   11      1/3 stake      
Switzerland   11/28 20:30   BSV Bern Muri - HC Kriens   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   10.5      1/3 stake   
Germany      11/28 21:00   TV Neuhausen/Erms - Empor Rostock   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   9      1/3 stake      
EHF Cup      11/28 21:00   Chambery Savoie HB - Füchse Berlin   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   9.5         1/3 stake   
Austria      11/28 21:20   HSG Bärnbach/Köflach - HC ece bulls Bruck   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   10      1/3 stake      
Spain      11/28 21:30   BM. Ciudad Encantada - Quabit BM. Guadalajara   Draw (1X2-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   10      1/3 stake   






Finland      11/28 16:00   Pelicans - Sport   Home   1.93         
Finland      11/28 16:00   JYP - Ilves   Home   1.88      

Hockey      IF Sundsvall Hockey - Pantern   28 Nov   Pantern +0.0   2.24         
Hockey      IF Sundsvall Hockey - Pantern   28 Nov   UNDER 5.0   1.64         
Hockey      Mora IK - BIK Karlskoga   28 Nov   OVER 5.0   1.81         
Hockey      Asplöven HC - Almtuna IS   28 Nov   Asplöven HC   2.07         
Hockey      Asplöven HC - Almtuna IS   28 Nov   UNDER 5.5   1.70      

Hockey      Hermes - Kiekko-Vantaa   28 Nov   OVER 5.0   1.56         
Hockey      TuTo - SaPKo   28 Nov   OVER 5.5   1.72         
Hockey      Jokipojat - RoKi   28 Nov   Jokipojat   1.51         
Hockey      Hokki - Jukurit   28 Nov   UNDER 6.0   1.45         
Hockey      Hokki - Jukurit   28 Nov   Jukurit   2.27         
Hockey      Ässät - KooKoo   28 Nov   OVER 3.5   1.54         
Hockey      Ässät - KooKoo   28 Nov   Ässät   1.83         
Hockey      Tappara - HIFK   28 Nov   HIFK +1.0   1.53         
Hockey      Pelicans - Sport   28 Nov   Pelicans   1.94         
Hockey      Kärpät - Blues   28 Nov   Kärpät   1.57         
Hockey      Kärpät - Blues   28 Nov   OVER 4.5   1.94         
Hockey      JYP - Ilves   28 Nov   JYP   1.88         
Hockey      JYP - Ilves   28 Nov   OVER 4.5   1.98         
Hockey      HPK - SaiPa   28 Nov   SaiPa -1.0   2.50         

Ger. Bundesliga I   11/28 15:30   TSG Hoffenheim - Borussia Monchengladbach   Away over 1.5 (Match)   2.06         
Denmark         11/28 16:00   Randers FC - Nordsjaelland   Over 2 (Match)   1.56         
Eng. Premier      11/28 16:00   Bournemouth AFC - Everton   Under 2.5 (Match)   2.12         
Eng. Premier      11/28 16:00   Manchester City - Southampton   Away over 0.75 (Match)   1.8         
Eng. Championship   11/28 16:00   Brighton & Hove Albion - Birmingham City   Away over 0.75 (Match)   2.08         
Eng. Championship   11/28 16:00   Cardiff City - Burnley   Over 2 (Match)   1.8         
Eng. Championship   11/28 16:00   Rotherham United - Bristol City   Over 2.5 (Match)   2.02         
Eng. Championship   11/28 17:00   Blackburn Rovers - Sheffield Wednesday FC   Yes (Both Team To Score-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   2.02      
Eng. Championship   11/28 17:00   Huddersfield Town - Middlesbrough FC   Yes (Both Team To Score-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   1.95         
Fra. Ligue 1      11/28 20:00   Nantes - SC Bastia   Away over 0.5 (Match)   1.81         
Fra. Ligue 1      11/28 20:00   Reims - Rennes   Over 2 (Match)   1.83         
Fra. Ligue 1      11/28 20:00   Toulouse - Nice   Over 2.5 (Match)   2.01         
Romania         11/28 20:30   SC Viitorul Constanta - CS U Craiova   Yes (Both Team To Score-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   2      
Fra. Ligue 1      11/28 21:00   Gazélec FCO Ajaccio - FC Lorient   Yes (Both Team To Score-Full Time Excluding Overtime)   1.96      
Spa. Primera      11/28 22:00   Las Palmas - Deportivo La Coruna   Away over 1 (Match)   2.18         
Spa. Primera      11/28 22:05   Celta Vigo - Sporting Gijon   Away over 0.75 (Match)   2.01         




Am. Football      Georgia Southern - South Alabama   28 Nov   Georgia Southern -20.5   1.94   
Am. Football      New Mexico State - Arkansas State   28 Nov   Arkansas State -17.0   1.93   

[FairlaySupport]

hi fairlay,

do you have issue with grading bets?

it's been more than 24h, still not graded. thanks

Yes, the settlement feed stopped working yesterday. We have now fixed the issue. We are sorry for the hassle.

[FairlaySupport]

We are looking for more market makers for our live betting section. So if you are a professional Betfair trader or a live betting expert please contact us!

[oloofa]

bug on your site at the moment

[FairlaySupport]

Yeah a small bug was introduced (new markets were not showing up)  when we tried to improve the performance.  
It should all be fixed now or is there something else @oloofa?

[eneilwex]

Yeah a small bug was introduced (new markets were not showing up)  when we tried to improve the performance.  
It should all be fixed now or is there something else @oloofa?

How in Gods name are lay bets placed on your website?

[FairlaySupport]

You click on Against  and place a back bet on the other side.   This is different from how you place lay bets on Betfair.  At fairlay the amount is always the liability of the bet.

[eneilwex]

You click on Against  and place a back bet on the other side.   This is different from how you place lay bets on Betfair.  At fairlay the amount is always the liability of the bet.

I still dont get it, Ill just withdraw, cannot afford to make a mistake. thanks

[debuni]

 You are Pinnacle driven.
 Then why you are removing Dog team Total goals lines?

[FairlaySupport]

We do have these markets @debuni. Fairlay cannot process any AND markets like  Over 1 and Over 1.5 at the moment.

[debuni]

We do have these markets @debuni. Fairlay cannot process any AND markets like  Over 1 and Over 1.5 at the moment.

Nope. You don't have it.

Let me show you: These are all of your markets for    Kuban Krasnodar - FC Krasnodar

And you have how many goals will score Fav team: Kuban Krasnodar vs. FC Krasnodar - Total Away.

But you've never have the same market for Dog team. And in this example I have in my blogabet blog Pinnacle bet on Over 0.75 on Home team. And also I have >1090 similar picks with >6-7% yield and over >60% total ROI, which I cannot bet on your site.

P.S. If  you decide to add those markets, I will seriously consider to move at least part of my betting to BTC. With expected turnover around 15BTC/month and if everything is OK with grading and so on, after few months will increase the turnover to >100BTC/month.