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Hi, I don't understand this : This means that you will want to split your HYP blocks into the appropriate amount of HYP if you want to receive 750% reward I have a block with 10k Hyp, 49.78 Age, 11.13 Days to stake, and Priority highest and Potential Stake 1000 Hyp since a long time ; to get the 1000 Hyp I have to split my 10k Hyp another time or I just have to wait? I don't find an answer in the wiki, so thank's for your help Don't make large blocks. A 10k block that gets lucky and stakes after only 9 days yields 405.5%. At 50 days you're looking at only 73%. Between the subsidy cap and the restriction on weight gain after 30 days, large Hyp blocks are massively devalued compared to other PoS coins. Small blocks and luck = deluxe profits. Large blocks and luck = mediocre returns. Large blocks and bad luck = you shoulda played with a different stake coin.
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July 07, 2015, 07:02:10 PM Last edit: July 07, 2015, 07:20:14 PM by TiTori2 |
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Thank you for your answer, so, if I understand, I'm just unlucky and I have to wait more time (and next time making small blocks). Oh, and I promiss, to save the coral I never will make some jumbo blocks
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July 07, 2015, 08:24:16 PM |
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I combined all of my old blocks a while ago, but currently I have:
Amount: 4474 Age: 121.49 days Weight: 132,746
Very interesting topic for a newcomer like me. As my older block is only 26 days old, what kind of strategy would you recommend? Is a better to let blocks accumulate weight even if they take several month to stake, or regularly combine the older blocks and loose at the same time the accumulated weight? I think best strategy is to hold on and see if it stakes. If you grow impatient... then buy some more and you will have more chance to stake
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July 09, 2015, 06:38:10 AM |
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HYP's still one of the main competitors in the High rate PoS arena. Even though 'inflation control' (the maximum stake reward of 1,000 HYP) has slowed down inflation, we are seeing the average staker earning almost 350%.
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July 09, 2015, 09:20:10 AM Last edit: July 09, 2015, 12:06:53 PM by iantunc |
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HYP's still one of the main competitors in the High rate PoS arena. Even though 'inflation control' (the maximum stake reward of 1,000 HYP) has slowed down inflation, we are seeing the average staker earning almost 350%. Great feature! I have a couple of propositions about it. Is it possible to implement a custom period of the moving average to give holders an instrument that can help to fine tune their staking strategy? And wouldn't it be nice to have such charts plotted for every individual address?
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July 09, 2015, 02:38:25 PM |
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Great feature! I have a couple of propositions about it. Is it possible to implement a custom period of the moving average to give holders an instrument that can help to fine tune their staking strategy? And wouldn't it be nice to have such charts plotted for every individual address?
Funny you ask, moneromooo had an almost identical request as well. I will work on these things soon.
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July 09, 2015, 03:10:31 PM Last edit: July 09, 2015, 09:43:55 PM by Ztraven |
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Great feature! I have a couple of propositions about it. Is it possible to implement a custom period of the moving average to give holders an instrument that can help to fine tune their staking strategy? And wouldn't it be nice to have such charts plotted for every individual address?
Funny you ask, moneromooo had an almost identical request as well. I will work on these things soon. Are such charts possible? It sounds like a tall order. They would be very useful if it could be done.
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July 09, 2015, 11:57:01 PM |
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Great feature! I have a couple of propositions about it. Is it possible to implement a custom period of the moving average to give holders an instrument that can help to fine tune their staking strategy? And wouldn't it be nice to have such charts plotted for every individual address?
Funny you ask, moneromooo had an almost identical request as well. I will work on these things soon. Are such charts possible? It sounds like a tall order. They would be very useful if it could be done. Pffft, of course they can. Presstab is a supreme DEV.
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July 10, 2015, 03:56:45 AM |
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Great feature! I have a couple of propositions about it. Is it possible to implement a custom period of the moving average to give holders an instrument that can help to fine tune their staking strategy? And wouldn't it be nice to have such charts plotted for every individual address?
Funny you ask, moneromooo had an almost identical request as well. I will work on these things soon. Are such charts possible? It sounds like a tall order. They would be very useful if it could be done. Pffft, of course they can. Presstab is a supreme DEV. In that case I'll look forward to using them when they appear.
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July 10, 2015, 04:37:20 AM |
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Great feature! I have a couple of propositions about it. Is it possible to implement a custom period of the moving average to give holders an instrument that can help to fine tune their staking strategy? And wouldn't it be nice to have such charts plotted for every individual address?
Funny you ask, moneromooo had an almost identical request as well. I will work on these things soon. Are such charts possible? It sounds like a tall order. They would be very useful if it could be done. Pffft, of course they can. Presstab is a supreme DEV. In that case I'll look forward to using them when they appear. Shouldnt be too hard, the hard part is allocating the time to do it
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July 10, 2015, 04:43:30 AM |
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Now that's what I like to hear!
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July 12, 2015, 07:39:21 PM |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
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July 12, 2015, 08:36:08 PM |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
8.8 days is the time at which your blocks become eligible to stake. If you were the only one on the network (and difficulty had had time to adjust to this), you'd stake at 8.8 days. As it is, your blocks compete with every other block that's eligible, with chances according to each block's weight, so... Still, 30 days for 12k seems a bit high. Maybe you don't leave your wallet open all the time ? Though the general idea is that we now have a LOT of stakers, and so, since the number of blocks per day is targetted to a fixed number, there is a huge roadblock there.
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July 12, 2015, 09:26:55 PM |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
8.8 days is the time at which your blocks become eligible to stake. If you were the only one on the network (and difficulty had had time to adjust to this), you'd stake at 8.8 days. As it is, your blocks compete with every other block that's eligible, with chances according to each block's weight, so... Still, 30 days for 12k seems a bit high. Maybe you don't leave your wallet open all the time ? Though the general idea is that we now have a LOT of stakers, and so, since the number of blocks per day is targetted to a fixed number, there is a huge roadblock there. I understand the diff issue but this is what my wallet shows, 34 days per block. I do not leave it open all the time, why would I when it says 20+ more days till the next stake.
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July 12, 2015, 09:55:56 PM Last edit: July 12, 2015, 10:07:16 PM by iantunc |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
You aren't doing anything wrong but you won't get close to the average of 9 days staking period now because of the inflation control, sure if you won't use real big blocks like 100-200k (which will give you a small return). This coin is designed to be deflationary to prevent hyperinflation. That means that your average staking period for a given block size will become more and more long thus reducing the effective return which in its turn will reduce inflation. So your only strategy to get a bigger return is to reduce your block size to the appropriate level which you can get from the block explorer data (check blocks with a tx count of 2, and you will get an initial block size, age and return). But you should realize that the smaller the block is, the longer you will wait, and 30 days isn't really long in this context.
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July 12, 2015, 10:01:14 PM |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
8.8 days is the time at which your blocks become eligible to stake. If you were the only one on the network (and difficulty had had time to adjust to this), you'd stake at 8.8 days. As it is, your blocks compete with every other block that's eligible, with chances according to each block's weight, so... Still, 30 days for 12k seems a bit high. Maybe you don't leave your wallet open all the time ? Though the general idea is that we now have a LOT of stakers, and so, since the number of blocks per day is targetted to a fixed number, there is a huge roadblock there. I understand the diff issue but this is what my wallet shows, 34 days per block. I do not leave it open all the time, why would I when it says 20+ more days till the next stake. Because your wallet is trying to stake every second, it's like bitcoin mining. If you are not leaving it open often enough, you can't stake at all.
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July 13, 2015, 12:59:00 AM |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
8.8 days is the time at which your blocks become eligible to stake. If you were the only one on the network (and difficulty had had time to adjust to this), you'd stake at 8.8 days. As it is, your blocks compete with every other block that's eligible, with chances according to each block's weight, so... Still, 30 days for 12k seems a bit high. Maybe you don't leave your wallet open all the time ? Though the general idea is that we now have a LOT of stakers, and so, since the number of blocks per day is targetted to a fixed number, there is a huge roadblock there. I understand the diff issue but this is what my wallet shows, 34 days per block. I do not leave it open all the time, why would I when it says 20+ more days till the next stake. Because your wallet is trying to stake every second, it's like bitcoin mining. If you are not leaving it open often enough, you can't stake at all. Assuming you don't have your blocks distributed over a 30 day period, is there any reason to have the wallet open when no blocks are mature? I was under the impression that there was not, but I am not sure.
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July 13, 2015, 01:06:31 AM |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
8.8 days is the time at which your blocks become eligible to stake. If you were the only one on the network (and difficulty had had time to adjust to this), you'd stake at 8.8 days. As it is, your blocks compete with every other block that's eligible, with chances according to each block's weight, so... Still, 30 days for 12k seems a bit high. Maybe you don't leave your wallet open all the time ? Though the general idea is that we now have a LOT of stakers, and so, since the number of blocks per day is targetted to a fixed number, there is a huge roadblock there. I understand the diff issue but this is what my wallet shows, 34 days per block. I do not leave it open all the time, why would I when it says 20+ more days till the next stake. Because your wallet is trying to stake every second, it's like bitcoin mining. If you are not leaving it open often enough, you can't stake at all. Assuming you don't have your blocks distributed over a 30 day period, is there any reason to have the wallet open when no blocks are mature? I was under the impression that there was not, but I am not sure. Maturity is 8.8 days. After 8.8 days you will want your wallet open as frequently as possible.
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July 13, 2015, 01:39:36 AM |
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How many blocks do I need to have to get even close to those 9 days staking periods. ATM I have 6 blocks, each with 12k HYP and my staking time is over 30 days. What am I doing wrong?
8.8 days is the time at which your blocks become eligible to stake. If you were the only one on the network (and difficulty had had time to adjust to this), you'd stake at 8.8 days. As it is, your blocks compete with every other block that's eligible, with chances according to each block's weight, so... Still, 30 days for 12k seems a bit high. Maybe you don't leave your wallet open all the time ? Though the general idea is that we now have a LOT of stakers, and so, since the number of blocks per day is targetted to a fixed number, there is a huge roadblock there. I understand the diff issue but this is what my wallet shows, 34 days per block. I do not leave it open all the time, why would I when it says 20+ more days till the next stake. Because your wallet is trying to stake every second, it's like bitcoin mining. If you are not leaving it open often enough, you can't stake at all. Assuming you don't have your blocks distributed over a 30 day period, is there any reason to have the wallet open when no blocks are mature? I was under the impression that there was not, but I am not sure. Maturity is 8.8 days. After 8.8 days you will want your wallet open as frequently as possible. Woot! I got something right today Mine is always open anyway, but for the watchers...
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mmfiore
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July 19, 2015, 03:14:04 AM |
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I too would like to see some sort of stake charting tool built into the client. A simple chart showing stake amount per day with a week, month, 6 months and year setting. A bar chart or line chart will do.
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