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December 28, 2016, 09:49:48 AM
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why I dont see messaging tab in the wallet?

according to this screen:



there should be "Messages" tab in the menu... why there is no such a tab in my wallet (win 3.9.0)??

We removed the messages feature.

It was part of the code base of the wallet we forked for the new UI. It was a custom feature they spent a lot of time building so we have chosen to remove their proprietary feature from our wallet out of respect, even though it is open source.


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December 28, 2016, 10:47:53 AM
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why I dont see messaging tab in the wallet?

according to this screen:


there should be "Messages" tab in the menu... why there is no such a tab in my wallet (win 3.9.0)??

We removed the messages feature.

It was part of the code base of the wallet we forked for the new UI. It was a custom feature they spent a lot of time building so we have chosen to remove their proprietary feature from our wallet out of respect, even though it is open source.



ok, thanks for clarifying... and what wallet was that ? ;-)

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December 28, 2016, 10:53:26 AM
Last edit: December 28, 2016, 01:05:03 PM by johnnywoo2015
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Get ready to see FUD storm again on NAV topic.
Some ppl missed the train.

 
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December 28, 2016, 11:37:18 AM
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We removed the messages feature.

It was part of the code base of the wallet we forked for the new UI. It was a custom feature they spent a lot of time building so we have chosen to remove their proprietary feature from our wallet out of respect, even though it is open source.



But NAV had a messaging feature way before the new interface (from early Navajo name days), unless my memory fails me.

Not that I ever planned to use it, but why not revert back to that? Is it difficult from a technical perspective?

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December 28, 2016, 03:48:44 PM
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Any progress with the sync issue?
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December 28, 2016, 07:26:28 PM
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Hello, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I read the past 10 pages of comments and the website but can't find answers to these two questions:

1. Are all parts of this coin's software fully open source with no closed source software at all?

2. How is this coin better than Monero?

Thanks!
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December 28, 2016, 07:57:33 PM
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Hello, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I read the past 10 pages of comments and the website but can't find answers to these two questions:

1. Are all parts of this coin's software fully open source with no closed source software at all?

2. How is this coin better than Monero?

Thanks!

Hi mate,

1) Yes. NavTech was decentralised a week ago
2) Very easy to use.
GUI similar to BTC. Anon send only a tick in the QT wallet.
POS stage (no mining anymore) with up to 5% interest per year. Eco Friendly.
Transparent Dev team and community.
Very Attractive price.
Multi platform. QT wallet for OSX, Windows, Linux. Android wallet.
Great roadmap for 2017 including Polymorph, Pi stake wallet, Androind anon and stake wallet. IOS wallet. etc.

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December 28, 2016, 08:11:56 PM
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Hello, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I read the past 10 pages of comments and the website but can't find answers to these two questions:

1. Are all parts of this coin's software fully open source with no closed source software at all?

2. How is this coin better than Monero?

Thanks!

Hi mate,

1) Yes. NavTech was decentralised a week ago
2) Very easy to use.
GUI similar to BTC. Anon send only a tick in the QT wallet.
POS stage (no mining anymore) with up to 5% interest per year. Eco Friendly.
Transparent Dev team and community.
Very Attractive price.
Multi platform. QT wallet for OSX, Windows, Linux. Android wallet.
Great roadmap for 2017 including Polymorph, Pi stake wallet, Androind anon and stake wallet. IOS wallet. etc.
Also NAV coin is the only crypto that is 100% anonymous.
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December 28, 2016, 08:21:34 PM
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Hello, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I read the past 10 pages of comments and the website but can't find answers to these two questions:

1. Are all parts of this coin's software fully open source with no closed source software at all?

2. How is this coin better than Monero?

Thanks!

Hi mate,

1) Yes. NavTech was decentralised a week ago
2) Very easy to use.
GUI similar to BTC. Anon send only a tick in the QT wallet.
POS stage (no mining anymore) with up to 5% interest per year. Eco Friendly.
Transparent Dev team and community.
Very Attractive price.
Multi platform. QT wallet for OSX, Windows, Linux. Android wallet.
Great roadmap for 2017 including Polymorph, Pi stake wallet, Androind anon and stake wallet. IOS wallet. etc.
Also NAV coin is the only crypto that is 100% anonymous.

Thanks for the answers! Just so I'm clear, "decentralized" = 100% open source?

Also, about 100% anonymous, Monero says they are too (and shadow, etc.). How are they not 100% anonymous and Nav is?
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December 28, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
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Hello, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I read the past 10 pages of comments and the website but can't find answers to these two questions:

1. Are all parts of this coin's software fully open source with no closed source software at all?

2. How is this coin better than Monero?

Thanks!

Hi mate,

1) Yes. NavTech was decentralised a week ago
2) Very easy to use.
GUI similar to BTC. Anon send only a tick in the QT wallet.
POS stage (no mining anymore) with up to 5% interest per year. Eco Friendly.
Transparent Dev team and community.
Very Attractive price.
Multi platform. QT wallet for OSX, Windows, Linux. Android wallet.
Great roadmap for 2017 including Polymorph, Pi stake wallet, Androind anon and stake wallet. IOS wallet. etc.
Also NAV coin is the only crypto that is 100% anonymous.

Thanks for the answers! Just so I'm clear, "decentralized" = 100% open source?

Also, about 100% anonymous, Monero says they are too (and shadow, etc.). How are they not 100% anonymous and Nav is?

Each coin has a different approach to be anonymous. Monero may be difficult to trace but not impossible. Check the below to see NAV in action:
https://github.com/navcoindev/navcoin-media/blob/master/infographics/navtech-infographic.jpeg

Also since NAV is in POS stage, it is more secure than POW.
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December 28, 2016, 08:48:58 PM
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Check this:

http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/bloggers/navcoin-releases-open-source-code-navtech-anonymous-transaction-system/
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December 28, 2016, 09:18:57 PM
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More good info. Would you please answer these questions?

     Instead of sending NAVcoin directly to the receiver, the wallet encrypts the receiver address and sends the transaction to one of the addresses provided by the randomly selected processing server. What information about the originator does the processing server know about (originator IP, wallet address, amount available to spend, etc.). When this server receives this transaction, it creates a transaction of arbitrary size on the Subchain which it sends to a randomly selected outgoing server.
    This Subchain transaction has the receiver address and the amount of NAVcoins to send, encrypted and attached to it. When the outgoing server receives the Subchain transaction, it decrypts the data, randomizes the transaction amounts and sends NAVcoins to their intended recipient from a preloaded pool of NAVcoins waiting on the outgoing server. What is the potential that the decrypted data can be viewed by the server operator and/or logged by the server operator?.
    After the outgoing server has sent out the randomized NAVcoins to the intended recipient, the incoming server will join together any NAVcoins that have been processed and on the next transaction cycle send it to the outgoing server to replenish the pre-loaded pool of NAVcoins for future transactions. What is the size of the preloaded pool of NAVcoins?
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December 28, 2016, 09:55:39 PM
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stuck on block 575980... any fix for this?
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December 28, 2016, 10:06:12 PM
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Hello, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I read the past 10 pages of comments and the website but can't find answers to these two questions:

1. Are all parts of this coin's software fully open source with no closed source software at all?

2. How is this coin better than Monero?

Thanks!

Hi mate,

1) Yes. NavTech was decentralised a week ago
2) Very easy to use.
GUI similar to BTC. Anon send only a tick in the QT wallet.
POS stage (no mining anymore) with up to 5% interest per year. Eco Friendly.
Transparent Dev team and community.
Very Attractive price.
Multi platform. QT wallet for OSX, Windows, Linux. Android wallet.
Great roadmap for 2017 including Polymorph, Pi stake wallet, Androind anon and stake wallet. IOS wallet. etc.
Also NAV coin is the only crypto that is 100% anonymous.

Thanks for the answers! Just so I'm clear, "decentralized" = 100% open source?

Also, about 100% anonymous, Monero says they are too (and shadow, etc.). How are they not 100% anonymous and Nav is?

Each coin has a different approach to be anonymous. Monero may be difficult to trace but not impossible. Check the below to see NAV in action:
https://github.com/navcoindev/navcoin-media/blob/master/infographics/navtech-infographic.jpeg

Also since NAV is in POS stage, it is more secure than POW.


Decentralized is mostly 100% open source but it's more about there is not a single point of authority.
Like for example a bank is centralized they own your money if they get bankrupt you lose a lot.
With decentralized tech that won't happen cause there is not one control point. Your a small string in a big spiderweb some might disconnect but the web still is there.
Google decentralized in Google and go to pictures and I'm sure you will understand it after.
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December 28, 2016, 10:21:09 PM
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Hello, I'm new to this so please bear with me. I read the past 10 pages of comments and the website but can't find answers to these two questions:

1. Are all parts of this coin's software fully open source with no closed source software at all?

2. How is this coin better than Monero?

Thanks!

Hi mate,

1) Yes. NavTech was decentralised a week ago
2) Very easy to use.
GUI similar to BTC. Anon send only a tick in the QT wallet.
POS stage (no mining anymore) with up to 5% interest per year. Eco Friendly.
Transparent Dev team and community.
Very Attractive price.
Multi platform. QT wallet for OSX, Windows, Linux. Android wallet.
Great roadmap for 2017 including Polymorph, Pi stake wallet, Androind anon and stake wallet. IOS wallet. etc.
Also NAV coin is the only crypto that is 100% anonymous.

Thanks for the answers! Just so I'm clear, "decentralized" = 100% open source?

Also, about 100% anonymous, Monero says they are too (and shadow, etc.). How are they not 100% anonymous and Nav is?

Each coin has a different approach to be anonymous. Monero may be difficult to trace but not impossible. Check the below to see NAV in action:
https://github.com/navcoindev/navcoin-media/blob/master/infographics/navtech-infographic.jpeg

Also since NAV is in POS stage, it is more secure than POW.


Decentralized is mostly 100% open source but it's more about there is not a single point of authority.
Like for example a bank is centralized they own your money if they get bankrupt you lose a lot.
With decentralized tech that won't happen cause there is not one control point. Your a small string in a big spiderweb some might disconnect but the web still is there.
Google decentralized in Google and go to pictures and I'm sure you will understand it after.

People are currently setting up their own processing clusters. This will decentralize Navtech. The process just started and thus it will take a little time for people to setup their own servers.

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December 28, 2016, 10:34:21 PM
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Thank you. I understand the decentralized part. It's just that I don't know which part of the software is not open source.
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December 29, 2016, 12:17:02 AM
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More good info. Would you please answer these questions?

      After the outgoing server has sent out the randomized NAVcoins to the intended recipient, the incoming server will join together any NAVcoins that have been processed and on the next transaction cycle send it to the outgoing server to replenish the pre-loaded pool of NAVcoins for future transactions. What is the size of the preloaded pool of NAVcoins?

I'll look into the other parts But I can answer the last one.

1. The server admin sets this I have 50K set in my soon to be completed server right now.
2. When your wallet is looking for an anon server to randomly pick from it starts with the list entered in the navcoin.conf file
     
Code:
addanonserver=95.183.52.55:3000
addanonserver=95.183.53.184:3000
addanonserver=95.183.52.28:3000
addanonserver=95.183.52.29:3000
these are the nav devs servers
the wallet rejects servers that do not have enough NAV in the pool for your transaction right now.
the pool is reduced when nav is being sent from outgoing to end receiver. so If I'm processing 15k NAV in other transactions my server will only report 35K in the pool.

As far as I can tell nothing is closed.  part of the server uses forever.js to restart processes if they crash just checked that is open source https://github.com/foreverjs/forever

the actual code for the wallets and the server script are at https://github.com/navcoindev

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December 29, 2016, 12:25:16 AM
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More good info. Would you please answer these questions?

      After the outgoing server has sent out the randomized NAVcoins to the intended recipient, the incoming server will join together any NAVcoins that have been processed and on the next transaction cycle send it to the outgoing server to replenish the pre-loaded pool of NAVcoins for future transactions. What is the size of the preloaded pool of NAVcoins?

I'll look into the other parts But I can answer the last one.

1. The server admin sets this I have 50K set in my soon to be completed server right now.
2. When your wallet is looking for an anon server to randomly pick from it starts with the list entered in the navcoin.conf file
     
Code:
addanonserver=95.183.52.55:3000
addanonserver=95.183.53.184:3000
addanonserver=95.183.52.28:3000
addanonserver=95.183.52.29:3000
these are the nav devs servers
the wallet rejects servers that do not have enough NAV in the pool for your transaction right now.
the pool is reduced when nav is being sent from outgoing to end receiver. so If I'm processing 15k NAV in other transactions my server will only report 35K in the pool.

As far as I can tell nothing is closed.  part of the server uses forever.js to restart processes if they crash just checked that is open source https://github.com/foreverjs/forever

the actual code for the wallets and the server script are at https://github.com/navcoindev

This sounds like NAV has a masternode system, is this true?

If so, what are the NAV reqs to run a node?

Thanks!
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December 29, 2016, 12:28:36 AM
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I'm not sure what a masternode is.  A Navtech server that processes ANON transactions is open source as stated above
from the navtech readme


    To start up a NAVTech cluster, you will need a minimum of 2 servers with the following specifications each with their own IP Adddress and have the correct ports open for the API.

Component    Value
CPU    2 x 2.4 Ghz Intel Xeon
RAM    2 GB
Hard Disk    40GB
Operating System    64bit Debian or Ubuntu
API Port    3000

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December 29, 2016, 02:17:06 AM
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I'm not sure what a masternode is.  A Navtech server that processes ANON transactions is open source as stated above
from the navtech readme


    To start up a NAVTech cluster, you will need a minimum of 2 servers with the following specifications each with their own IP Adddress and have the correct ports open for the API.

Component    Value
CPU    2 x 2.4 Ghz Intel Xeon
RAM    2 GB
Hard Disk    40GB
Operating System    64bit Debian or Ubuntu
API Port    3000


Thank you for the info.

I think of masternodes as hosting some blockchain elements / indexes, and usually having a minimum number of coins in possession, as evidence of that node owner's commitment
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